Random Junk: anarchy, Santa, and 15 year old girls.

[ItoRAPEemos]

The santa thing was funny =]

[orgasmtron]

hey dude you lookkinda like that dude from beauty and the beast!!!!!no offense but seriuosly

[Poorkenny1]

15 year old girls rule!

[Docthewrench]

HEY I find torture and sex great together I do it all the time to my "FRIENDS"

[dysurian]

Are people in positions of power in the government exempt from human nature and wanting the best for themselves for the least effort? If not, then creating positions of power for people is an incredibly dangerous thing to do, since it allows for extensive abuse. If politicians are exempt from human nature, I'd be interested to know how.

[ndclark]

Hehehe! I thought the Santa thing was funny.

[mustainestheone]

great stuff. i've got a friend who's an anarchist and it's so frustrating to hear him talk such bullshit about the state 'telling people what to do'. you make some great points in here. anarchism is a step back, which makes no sense to any remotely intelligent person

[Crosisborg]

way to twist facts. How about being honest? Torture isnt a joke and sex with children can be funny. Thats what u were really saying except you left out the children part. How convenient... and typical of u.

[tampasdream]

........Anarchy has many meanings............

riots ? im getting to the point that i need serious drugs to get through these debates.its rediculous to even think this may work.although the republicans love yet another smokescreen so they can rob you when you are sleeping, good job.now if you will exuse me i need to go and kick my dog......

[jflo069]

ron paul bitch slapped you in this last debate eh immendham ???

[LimpLoser]

good one garry. fuck these selfish fuckers.

[kaksonen]

you are arguing against a very specific interpretation of anarchy yet using generalized terms. the notion that rights are inalienable or inherent is in its essence anarchistic; however, the respect for rights stem only from consciously and freely adhering to social contracts. i seek to exist without archons; however, this does not mean i respect no law.

[BellaTheHappyLoser]

6:28 in the video. whats that sound? you farted :)

on serious note. I dont know the answers, man. You are easy to dismiss things. I have similar problems with anarchy like you do, but I HATE DEMOCRACY(maybe i will have to explain my hate in a video, I know I will)

[inmendham]

"""whats that sound?"""

microphone clipped on shirt picked up stomach growling ... maybe a fart fetus.

[HoldinCoffee]

I think Stefan was suggesting not only cutting-off associations with people who want YOU to pay taxes, but also with anyone who pays taxes themselves.

[roodala]

True chaos anarchy would never happen unless a bomb drops or oil ceased to exist. Anarchy has many meanings, and a no rules anarchist wouldn't follow any version or leader but rather make his own. If someone is reading cliff notes on how to be an anarchist abc, they're just caught up in the label.

[WhoWants2Live4Ever]

A 'hard' day's work! HAHAHA! Man I nearly choked laughing! :D

[Sublimey123]

Teenagers usually do funny stuff like sit on Santa's lap. I remember my friends did that, and it was fucking funny.

[ithinkronpaulissmart]

Your monkey example made no sense, because in the 2nd option (representing communism) you added bananas (when in fact there would be less because production would decline). Why were there only enough bananas to feed 10% of the pop. in 1st example but plenty in the 2nd?

[shejeshelleg]

It's like science fiction, a "what if" comic book. The fact that it is even taken seriously is laughable. The figure he gave was to explain how unregulated "human nature" does not divide up resources efficiently. His counter example was communist-like, I agree, but I think he was just using it to make his point about human nature, not to promote communism. Market anarchy is pure idealism.

[shejeshelleg]

Market anarchy is 1. Not possible to implement 2. Not possible to sustain 3. Has no reasonable way of handling WMD's 4. Has no explanation for what the use of a DRO will be if it is less powerful than the people and no explanation for how the people can power check a DRO if they are more powerful than the people. But most importantly, market anarchy is philosophically handicapped.

[ithinkronpaulissmart]

I'm not even necessarily arguing for market anarchy (even though I disagree with nearly all of your assertions). I just commented that his monkey example made no sense, and it didn't.

[shejeshelleg]

The video is a criticism of market anarchy, not a promotion of communism. So far you have not addressed even one point I made let alone all of them. His point is about the tragedy of the commons, don't pretend you are clueless. So do you agree with the tragedy of the commons or do you disagree? If not, why? Make an argument and back it up with substance, stop playing this game.

[ithinkronpaulissmart]

I wasn't interested in having an argument on the subject, because I am not an expert in economics. That example about the monkeys jumped out at me as illogical so I pointed that out. There are plenty of people who can argue free market economics better than I can. (Watch some of Austrolibertarian's videos) I'll give it a shot though.

[ithinkronpaulissmart]

1. I don't understand you point about it being impossible to implement. The government simply steps out and market anarchy takes over. 2. I don't know why you say it is impossible to sustain. It is sustained on it's own, indefinitely. It works naturally so there is no need to do anything to keep it functioning.

[ithinkronpaulissmart]

3. What do WMDs have to do with anything? I assume you're talking about weapons of mass destruction (unless there is some economic term I am not aware of). Yeah, WMDs might pose a threat. So? They pose a threat now. It's not like the govt has any good solutions for dealing with them. Their foreign policy decisions provide an incentive for other countries to acquire nukes. It would be less of a problem in an anarchic society.

[ithinkronpaulissmart]

4. I don't understand your 4th point so I can't really comment on it.

From what I have read, free market solutions are naturally more efficient as there is a financial incentive to be so. Countries that have embraced capitalism have faired better than those who have embraced socialism. Again though, I am not an expert on these matters and that is why I had little interest in arguing them.

[shejeshelleg]

So, you are advocating the free ability for anybody and everybody to obtain and hold Intercontinental ballistic missiles? WTF? Do you have any idea what nuclear missiles could do? Don't you see how this completely nullifies the non-aggression principle?

[shejeshelleg]

Why would the government "step down"? That doesn't make any sense and it's not an answer related to reality. How do you sustain something that nobody has control over?

[ithinkronpaulissmart]

The idea that anybody would have access to missiles is silly. They cost what, close to a million dollars a piece? People aren't just going to leave them lying around. The only people who will have access, and have the amount of money to use them would be the super rich. That is obviously not ideal, but I trust Bill Gates just as much as I trust George Bush.

[ithinkronpaulissmart]

The government wouldn't voluntarily step down. However, if enough people support a movement, anythings possible. It's all null though because I am not an anarcho capitalist (never said I was). I am a libertarian. I agree with you that there would be obvious problems with a complete removal of the state.

[ithinkronpaulissmart]

Although, I wouldn't support the complete removal of the state, I would fight for a dramatic reduction of it, and the removal of nearly all federal functions.

[squiggey]

If a 15 year old girl sits on santas lap she might as well sit on a car jack. Maybe she wouldn't mind it though.

[wikimon]

i don't get why if a 15 year old can go and have sex, why wouldn't it be legal to have sex with ME.

what.

WHAT.

this whole "pedophillia thing" makes no logical sense. it needs refinement, but no one is willing to touch the subject with a 10 foot pole cause of stigma

[wikimon]

how the hell are people logging onto the internet then advocating anarchy.

if you can't physically MAKE the things you use on a daily basis FROM SCRATCH, you have no right to propose anarchy as a viable system, because it's just hypocrisy

[ithinkronpaulissmart]

I don't think you know what anarchocapitalism is.

[julesandmax]

no surrender :-)

YT reminds me of Grand Central Station -- settled arguments tend to get thrown back into the mix as new people join the discussion, & as others reach philosophical impasse and refuse to budge. But I see significant forward momentum in the discussions you've all been having. I've learned a lot, & others have to. I don't know where these discussions will lead, but what has been said has been important. *****

[WannabeKiwiBoy]

Very good.  I still can't believe that people with at least half a brain can believe this anarchy shit.

[SuperiorMind]

I don't know much about this topic. Some questions for proanarchs: Given competetive human nature - won't external organizations(or even internal) be able to exploit this? Without standardized rules - how do we stop criminals? How can we garauntee our needs will be met without exploitation? Safety makes freedom possible - so how will we be free? Medical emergencies - regulation standards - who answers to anybody? Seems highly exploitable.

[justplayman]

Yea and too many people get offended at the slightest bit of what they dont understand. Satan's plot

[BornAtNight]

Here's another analogy about how anarchy can't work that came up while taking a piss. Take a look at the average toilet seat in a men's washroom. Anyone who would advocates anarchy should be forced to take a dump in a public washroom until they understand human nature.

[SuperiorMind]

LOL

[ImaOddsock]

He knew it was a joke.he just wanted an excuse to attack..

[TOMMYfromtheBRONX]

it was not an attack , i just wanted to clear it up

[ImaOddsock]

my apology..sherry

[EntertainedWatcher]

Yeah, I'm already a subscriber of rumpagump.. that guy IS fucking awesome XD

[jtr3030]

luke an stefbot are anarcho-capitalists. most anarchists are socialists and reject capitalists as anarchists at all. please know what anarchism is before you condemn it (that's partially their fault though for misusing the term). the problem you described with the monkeys can be solved through solidarity rather than authority or the capitalistic free market and fascistic incentive. anarchyfaq dot org

[Daghita]

LOL, ok, so it sounds to me that basically from this video you are promoting your viewpoint as the correct and only viewpoint to follow. If people don't, their stupid.

[TheRealistCanuck]

Lol! Excellent video. Anarchy is going back in time just to rebuild a gov't all over again.

[creole60]

What I can't stand about all these anarchist; is that they never see the real picture. If black and white people had a choice to live segregated...sadly they would. How these anarchist think that the children growing up in a all white, all black communties isn't going to produce fear, ignorance, and racism like days of old and thus racial wars. Who wants to raise children in a county where the states arn't united?

[llod206]

inmendham is proof that crunk is not dead

[8rf]

ok, did you actually watch whole 40 minutes video of this dude stefbot?

[inmendham]

"""actually watch whole 40 minutes"""

yes, and my neurons are still complaining.

[Daghita]

You say in your video that you are wanting proof of how any of it would work. Yet, Stefan tells you specifically his philosophical viewpoint of "how" and "why" he does what he does. So, I question your validity of wanting proof of how it would work, when he provided his viewpoint of how it would.

[lazymornings]

i like it,close to the bone(get it,!)

[lazymornings]

i meant the vid,dum ass!!