@Cliner98 Actually while a people like the Romans would have considered them barbaric the Ancient Irish (pre christianity) were a VERY educated group. They prided knowledge and philosophy just as much if not a LITTLE bit more than physical strengh and battle. They even had a "learning" group, the Druids and to be a full druid you had to study for 20 years to be considered a legit Druid, nowadays it only takes 3 years of study lol
@viNCeK13 these docs are old, 90's i think? but you are correct, barbs had road ways before the Romans did, and lots of other great inventions, They where actually a very clean people contrary to belief. Glad to see someone else who enjoys keeping up with new found historical evidence.
just out of interest how do you know that about the Druids when there was little to no written documentation from the Druid people. There schools were completely oral and past down there teachings in story and song and art form. The only written accounts were from the Romans which in my opinion was probably biased. i was under the impression that any knowledge was wiped out. I'm not being confrontational just interested if you know otherwise.
@Sacredg121121 well i'm actually a practicing Pagan Druid so i do alot of research trying to find out as much as i can from various document from the national library in america to various historical books written by pagans and non pagans
for example we know that the Druids werent a people they were a class within society anyone could become a druid if they wanted to apply themselves to the 20 years of study
we also know that Gualish druids traveled to ireland/england to study
@viNCeK13 I guess my question would be then, how can you be certain that what you are studying is Druidsm when they passed on there teachings orally and there is no written form of doctrine or philosophy, just what Julius Ceaser wrote in a account of Gaul. Don't get me wrong i am very into Nature and what it can teach us, and do believe that the Druids existed, but i think to many blanks have been filled through out the centuries by poets and historians and story tellers.
@Sacredg121121 Well yes part of the information comes from Ceaser but he wasnt the only recorder there were other recorders of the Druids which we're greeks, guals, romans, and in the VERY end of the age of druidry some druids had information written down in Ogham to preserve what they could due to the invasions
it's not perfect at all of course, it's like trying to rewrite a book covered in paint but what we learned and what not, we practice
@Sacredg121121 obviously what modern Druids practice isnt exactly what the ancients practiced but it's as close that we can get while being historicly and religously accurate as possible like i said there are other sources other than Ceaser...accounts of locals and bards of druids and there ways even if the druids themselves didnt write anything down untill the very end and even this what was written was written on stone in Ogham, translated into ancient irish, then modern
Viking Dublin was made up of Norsemen and Irish women think about this. There was a war between the Pagan and the Christian way of life. It was a last stand for the Northmen.We owe much to every strand that makes up modern Ireland.
@Seano71 The Irish are not Celts,and never in history did our great ancestors consider themselves Celts. We are Gaels not Celts. It was a term given to us in the 18 century by the Brits.
Patrick wasn't all that bad, I mean, he brought literacy to ireland. Also, do you think ireland would be united by the time of brian boru w/o saint patrick? I think not.
@Cliner98 This is my belief also.I think St Patrick destroyed us Irish,once we became christians we fell behind on warfare and became vulnerable and lost of waring ways
The only wealth the monasteries had back then, for the most part were a couple silver gobets and thousands of gallons of good lager, the latter is what they were after i bet. Every time you sip on a good beer, thank a monk.
screw dem british i saw we go whisky in hand gun in the other and take back whats OURS! we arent protestant british we are catholic IRISH! let us be FREE!
@WatchRyder im sorry but i must disagree. although what you say may present a valid opinion and a good guess, it is still only speculation. The irish were so brutally beaten back by the vikings for a couple of reasons unrelated to religion. 1; the vikings were much better armed. 2; ireland's armies at the time were spread much too thinly in different clans throughout the island. small groups of clansmen could not possibly hold out against the vikings. once united under brian boru, they triumphed
The Irish suffered a distinct lack of warrior prowess after they adopted Christianity which preaches non-violence and pacifism. You cannot have one, without the other lacking.
This is something the Vikings capitulated on both in England and Ireland. The mainstream historians don't want to mention this to you because it upset's the status quo's ruling establishment.
@WatchRyder yes i understand what you mean. and it was indeed a factor but still does not stand out as the most prominant reason for the vikings success. The fact is that there where well over 100 kings and chieftans at the time and needed to be united. in many respects the monastaries that appeared as a result of christianity made developing communities in which trade florished. this introduced iron weponry to ireland. i can respect your opinion but 'disagree' that it is completely true.
@WatchRyder when ireland was 'united' under brian boru it was more successful then ever before. as for the english's unity being strong, thats the main reason they where so successful in ireland. we only speak english now because the english where so strong an invader and ireland was indeed split between catholics and protestants
@WatchRyder ahaha you have argued your case very well and all though that i do not totally agree with you, i cannot be bothered to harp on anymore. Good day! and thank you for the arguement ;). i rather enjoy those.
@WatchRyder pre-christian Celts were also great warriors because they were led by Druids and they believed in reincarnation, therefore they were not afraid of death and fought courageously
@HallowedMoon thats why the native picts of scotland managed to repell the might of Rome for 400 years they didnt fear death and welcomed it due to their religion.
Barbarian, Is what Romans called Non-urbanized cultures, Without a written language and lacking in science, Nomads were considered the most barbarous since they were raiders who would sack one land and then move on to plunder another, It was a common pejorative against all foreign enemies.
just a correction. Barbaric simply meant outside of the roman empire.
But I do agree. Christianity unified the country by accepting gods and folklore into the christian beliefs. They had less need to fight. Also, the group of people we call celts, are the same group who latter come back as the Vikings. Ironic, No?
Does anyone know the Gregorian Chant heard here at the monastry of Inisfallen? Someone suggested it was "Tantum Ergo Sacramentum", but that doesn't sound like it.
Not realy, it was simply two different ways of warfare. Irish warfare was very ritualised and would often start with 1vs1 combat betwee champions, the honouring of challenges and taboos. The Vikings were raiders, swift, taking by surprise and employed group tactics rather than emphasising wild abandon and individual prowess. Same reason the Romans eventually subdued the Celts.
Christianity ushered in Irelands Golden Age, people from Europe would flock there for its great learning & civilisation.
Dublin south constituency has the least amount of non-EU or EU immigrants in Dublin at 4.2%
yet it has the largest amount of voters that are Irish businessmen, managers, and government employees - they preach multiculturalism but dont want to live with it.
@Cliner98 Actually while a people like the Romans would have considered them barbaric the Ancient Irish (pre christianity) were a VERY educated group. They prided knowledge and philosophy just as much if not a LITTLE bit more than physical strengh and battle. They even had a "learning" group, the Druids and to be a full druid you had to study for 20 years to be considered a legit Druid, nowadays it only takes 3 years of study lol
viNCeK13 2 months ago
@viNCeK13 these docs are old, 90's i think? but you are correct, barbs had road ways before the Romans did, and lots of other great inventions, They where actually a very clean people contrary to belief. Glad to see someone else who enjoys keeping up with new found historical evidence.
BandOfAtheist 2 months ago
just out of interest how do you know that about the Druids when there was little to no written documentation from the Druid people. There schools were completely oral and past down there teachings in story and song and art form. The only written accounts were from the Romans which in my opinion was probably biased. i was under the impression that any knowledge was wiped out. I'm not being confrontational just interested if you know otherwise.
Sacredg121121 2 months ago
@Sacredg121121 well i'm actually a practicing Pagan Druid so i do alot of research trying to find out as much as i can from various document from the national library in america to various historical books written by pagans and non pagans
for example we know that the Druids werent a people they were a class within society anyone could become a druid if they wanted to apply themselves to the 20 years of study
we also know that Gualish druids traveled to ireland/england to study
viNCeK13 2 months ago
@viNCeK13 I guess my question would be then, how can you be certain that what you are studying is Druidsm when they passed on there teachings orally and there is no written form of doctrine or philosophy, just what Julius Ceaser wrote in a account of Gaul. Don't get me wrong i am very into Nature and what it can teach us, and do believe that the Druids existed, but i think to many blanks have been filled through out the centuries by poets and historians and story tellers.
Sacredg121121 2 months ago
@Sacredg121121 Well yes part of the information comes from Ceaser but he wasnt the only recorder there were other recorders of the Druids which we're greeks, guals, romans, and in the VERY end of the age of druidry some druids had information written down in Ogham to preserve what they could due to the invasions
it's not perfect at all of course, it's like trying to rewrite a book covered in paint but what we learned and what not, we practice
viNCeK13 2 months ago
@Sacredg121121 obviously what modern Druids practice isnt exactly what the ancients practiced but it's as close that we can get while being historicly and religously accurate as possible like i said there are other sources other than Ceaser...accounts of locals and bards of druids and there ways even if the druids themselves didnt write anything down untill the very end and even this what was written was written on stone in Ogham, translated into ancient irish, then modern
viNCeK13 2 months ago
Viking Dublin was made up of Norsemen and Irish women think about this. There was a war between the Pagan and the Christian way of life. It was a last stand for the Northmen.We owe much to every strand that makes up modern Ireland.
BAC1954 2 months ago
in the future there will be no such thing as a Celt. Ireland is going to be black in a few generations.
Seano71 3 months ago
@Seano71
lol is it fuck.
MrJoshuaPadraig 2 months ago
@Seano71 The Irish are not Celts,and never in history did our great ancestors consider themselves Celts. We are Gaels not Celts. It was a term given to us in the 18 century by the Brits.
TheFionuir 1 week ago
Was this filmed at the time? If not for what reason do you think it's merit worthy? It's silly mass-media pap.
CeltoSaxonKnight 3 months ago
Patrick wasn't all that bad, I mean, he brought literacy to ireland. Also, do you think ireland would be united by the time of brian boru w/o saint patrick? I think not.
iNarbage 4 months ago
@Cliner98 This is my belief also.I think St Patrick destroyed us Irish,once we became christians we fell behind on warfare and became vulnerable and lost of waring ways
cathbhar1 5 months ago
thanks for uploading
l00072878 7 months ago
The only wealth the monasteries had back then, for the most part were a couple silver gobets and thousands of gallons of good lager, the latter is what they were after i bet. Every time you sip on a good beer, thank a monk.
Armahx 9 months ago
@Cliner98 "barbaric, heathens" sounds like you eat roman propaganda for breakfast
HallowedMoon 9 months ago
Brain represents the spirit of man. When the banks get their way, let the spirit be born again to all nations.
HoneyMonster666 10 months ago
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DarkWizardMonkey 10 months ago
screw dem british i saw we go whisky in hand gun in the other and take back whats OURS! we arent protestant british we are catholic IRISH! let us be FREE!
DrinkToIreland 1 year ago
@Cliner98
That is something I think also, they found their teeth again, but only just!
Right now the Irish are back to showing the same lack of teeth and aggression again alas.
WatchRyder 1 year ago
@WatchRyder im sorry but i must disagree. although what you say may present a valid opinion and a good guess, it is still only speculation. The irish were so brutally beaten back by the vikings for a couple of reasons unrelated to religion. 1; the vikings were much better armed. 2; ireland's armies at the time were spread much too thinly in different clans throughout the island. small groups of clansmen could not possibly hold out against the vikings. once united under brian boru, they triumphed
TheCatsPyjamas94 1 year ago
@TheCatsPyjamas94
What are you disagreeing about?
The Irish suffered a distinct lack of warrior prowess after they adopted Christianity which preaches non-violence and pacifism. You cannot have one, without the other lacking.
This is something the Vikings capitulated on both in England and Ireland. The mainstream historians don't want to mention this to you because it upset's the status quo's ruling establishment.
Quality beats quantity everytime.
WatchRyder 1 year ago
@WatchRyder yes i understand what you mean. and it was indeed a factor but still does not stand out as the most prominant reason for the vikings success. The fact is that there where well over 100 kings and chieftans at the time and needed to be united. in many respects the monastaries that appeared as a result of christianity made developing communities in which trade florished. this introduced iron weponry to ireland. i can respect your opinion but 'disagree' that it is completely true.
TheCatsPyjamas94 1 year ago
@TheCatsPyjamas94
There is strength through diversity. Unity brings it's own set of problems.
For all the supposed 'unity' England still conquered the country.
Look at the language now widely spoken in Ireland, it's not Irish my friend...
WatchRyder 1 year ago
@WatchRyder when ireland was 'united' under brian boru it was more successful then ever before. as for the english's unity being strong, thats the main reason they where so successful in ireland. we only speak english now because the english where so strong an invader and ireland was indeed split between catholics and protestants
TheCatsPyjamas94 1 year ago
@TheCatsPyjamas94
You might define it as successful, but that definition supports the move towards an over-authoritive totalitarian state.
The Irish were taken over due to Christianity.
We speak Irish in Eire directly because of the elites who stabbed Eire in the back!
The only reason the English got the foothold in Eire was because of the treacherous nobles who let them in!
Hardly anything to do with 'unity' that you harp on about.
WatchRyder 1 year ago
@WatchRyder ahaha you have argued your case very well and all though that i do not totally agree with you, i cannot be bothered to harp on anymore. Good day! and thank you for the arguement ;). i rather enjoy those.
TheCatsPyjamas94 1 year ago
@WatchRyder pre-christian Celts were also great warriors because they were led by Druids and they believed in reincarnation, therefore they were not afraid of death and fought courageously
HallowedMoon 9 months ago
@HallowedMoon thats why the native picts of scotland managed to repell the might of Rome for 400 years they didnt fear death and welcomed it due to their religion.
seonidh 8 months ago
@Cliner98
Long live the legacy of the Tuatha De Dannan!
WatchRyder 1 year ago
Barbarian, Is what Romans called Non-urbanized cultures, Without a written language and lacking in science, Nomads were considered the most barbarous since they were raiders who would sack one land and then move on to plunder another, It was a common pejorative against all foreign enemies.
Obasiliasfilosofos 1 year ago
For one of the truths about the many lies told about Germany.
Google:
The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies by Theodore J. O' Keefe.
If you want the facts go to Institute for Historical Review (ihr.org) and click on their archives.
Germany has been lied to and lied about.
LogNaSionna 1 year ago
Brian was the last man in Erin who was a match for a hundred
phorlakhnanta 1 year ago
@Cliner98
just a correction. Barbaric simply meant outside of the roman empire.
But I do agree. Christianity unified the country by accepting gods and folklore into the christian beliefs. They had less need to fight. Also, the group of people we call celts, are the same group who latter come back as the Vikings. Ironic, No?
askmelater123 2 years ago
I'm part Irish but I like Wales the best,
jesqor1 2 years ago
Wow thx for thoses video.
Crombo 2 years ago
Does anyone know the Gregorian Chant heard here at the monastry of Inisfallen? Someone suggested it was "Tantum Ergo Sacramentum", but that doesn't sound like it.
Cathain78 2 years ago
Not realy, it was simply two different ways of warfare. Irish warfare was very ritualised and would often start with 1vs1 combat betwee champions, the honouring of challenges and taboos. The Vikings were raiders, swift, taking by surprise and employed group tactics rather than emphasising wild abandon and individual prowess. Same reason the Romans eventually subdued the Celts.
Christianity ushered in Irelands Golden Age, people from Europe would flock there for its great learning & civilisation.
Cathain78 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Dublin south constituency has the least amount of non-EU or EU immigrants in Dublin at 4.2%
yet it has the largest amount of voters that are Irish businessmen, managers, and government employees - they preach multiculturalism but dont want to live with it.
source= RTÉ news 3/6/09
waaeaa 2 years ago
And a claidheamh mòr, again hundreds of years early. What kind of dreck is this?
032125 2 years ago
Amazing how they show a lochaber axe 300 years ahead of it's time
032125 2 years ago
amazing hoe the seat of the High king is in ULSTER
malarky321 2 years ago
The seat of the Ard Ri was Tara. It was considered a kingdom in it's own right, and wasn't subject to the King of Ulster.
Cathain78 2 years ago 2
not any more unfortunately they're few and far between
cunlahound 3 years ago
a counrty full of true rebels
darspower 3 years ago