ok, i have a grid-tie inverter now but it says range of 10v or so till 28v or so, so with 12v solar panels it should also work then , not ? however in the manual it says it requires a minimum of 30w for it to work ( for a 200w grid-tie inverter ) , i have 48w in totall on solar panels, hooked it up and red fault led burning alot , and the green led when plugged to wall-socket is good , does this mean that the sun wasnt shining enough to get to minimum of 30w or other problem ?
yeah i thought about that too, using it as a buffer, from battery it takes about 18w or so from 12v battery ( even though it says it can take between 10v upto 28v ) , but hooking two 12v batteries together to get 24v then should take more somebody else adviced, more efficient than and all, i shall make sometime a movie too from stuff i got & all ... thanks
Not a greedy meter, the Grid Tie inverter must sense the incoming power feed from the outside grid. When you turned the main power to off the safety feature kicked in and no output power was feeding to the grid. This is so if power is lost it wont kill a line worker outside at the pole. Still got your point across and was a nice job explaining energy savings.
Hi! I'm using multiple grid-tie inverters in my house, however my meter is not the traditional one. Rather I'm using a prepayment card of prepaid meter? Though during daytime, my electricity consumption seems to have reduced a bit but I'm not sure if it makes my prepaid go backward? Can you discuss about this issue for me? Likewise, my wind turbine is just generating a fluctuating volts between 6-12 volts, can this voltage ranges really make a difference? Thanks
@WRH052970 you can use them all on the same circuit as everything else, they don't have to be seperate, good idea to put it on a surge protector though.
0:46 you state if the power goes off, the inverter stops working....however 8:36 you switched off your power, and the inverter worked? Sorry im new to all this, please help me understand.
Im looking into buying 4k watt panels, with a charge, 32 batteries, and a 4k grid tie inverter. Im stuck on understanding which inverter to purchase, as i'm looking to cover 100% of my electric from these panels, however, I need my system to always operate regardless of having the companies power on or off. ty
Dan, How do you get power back to the meter if you turn off the main?
I think you should have turned off all circuits except for the one that had the grid tied inverter and left the main on.. Anyway great video.. Are these legal or do states have some requirements to stop homeowners from doing this
If this technology could get real currency, power companies could re-evaluate their grids. Not every homesite makes for a prime customer. Considering maintenance and easements, some areas are only marginally profitable. Why not own interest in sister companies that convert homes to off-grid or "low-grid" power and help maintain the home systems? Over a period of 20 years, simple attrition of grid networks could slow down fossil fuel consumption greatly.
Not for the general public until: 1) broad industry standards for safety/compatibility develop for US solar/wind hybrid systems 2) net metering is legal in most states (unlikely soon due to electricity theft/technical issues) 3) total power systems are available in kits that meet codes in most cities 4) most electricians are educated on these systems 5) insurance companies allow them 6) none of this happens until *gulp* big power companies start buying up the best alternative energy startups.
@calimanmancali Depends where you live. There are state laws, local codes, and contract provisions by the power companies. In my area it requires insurance, an official inspection, and a statement from the COMPANY that manufactures the components. You would never get a DIY system through those hurdles. But different areas and different power companies may have different rules.
If you did build a system to back feed at power levels over 1 kW you would need to verify that all the wiring on that circuit is of a heavy enough gauge to support that load, most wiring in your home will support a minimum of 1.2 kW, if your over that you could potentially cause a fire.
I have a Honda EU1000 that I use for camping. It won't run my microwave
My 2000 watt xantrax inverter will run my microwave for short times but it is boarder line. Could this gridtie inverter be used on an inverter style generator to increase the total watts that I need. Will this unit care about inverter to inverter power? Could I also injet the power into my inverter.
WHat website you got the inverter from and do you need a battery bank i am new to this and the site i use to get my diy solar panel forgot the instill guide.
YThank Howard Walker you can email me the info at howardwalker2003@gmail.com
Hi Dan. so can you plug in two inverters to a battery bank? I have a 240 watt solar panel with a 920AH bank of battery. My 1500 watt inverter is running everything in my house and im planning to buy a portable electrical stove which i would need another 2000 watt inverter to run the 1500 watt stove, so is it doable to hook an additional inverter to the battery??? Thanks
My question is, if my turbine catches so strong wind and starts cranking out 100+ volts is this going to fry the GT-inverter?? I have seen a couple of them with higher voltage inputs but in every case I've seen there is always a set range such as 12-28 or 22-60 volt. So again would this mean that anything outside of this voltage either won't turn it on or if higher will it fry it? Sorry so long and hope I didn't make this more complicated then it is. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks
Ok so I have a question. I'm in the middle of building a wind turbine and I just scored me a baldor 1 HP 5 amp 180 volt DC motor, scooped it @ a swap meet for 8 bucks. So I hooked it up to my trusty fluke and i was getting 12-15 volts out of it just by spinning it by hand. I have been looking to buy a grid tie inverter and one that caught my eye said the DC input was 12-28 volt or something like that. My question is, if my turbine catches so strong wind and starts cranking out 100+ volts is thi
First of all u must have turned off every individual breaker & not the main, & then turned on a single breaker with no load on it & plugged the inverter into that. As if u shut the main breaker off u have disconnected ur panel to ur meter. Unless u jumped into between ur meter &ur panel. Better to get proper disconnect panel that will run ur solar or wind to grid. Hydro pays higher rate for hydro produced then what a homeowner gets charged for using. Yes u need about 5 hours to make 1Kw @ 200w
Say I have a small wind turbine and a small bank of batteries, say 48 volts. If my batteries dropped below the lowest working rating of the inverter would it shut off and allow them to come back to full charge or does it place a constant drain on them? Seems like the inverter would really shorten the life of even a true deep cycle battery. Would I not be able to just run straight from the wind turbine to the GTI and bypass using batteries all together if my stator was wired to put DC voltage?
In Croatia you have to sign a contract with power company to feed the power back to grid and than you can sell it to them. You can't just plug the inverter and make your meeter go backwards.
Watch your electric meter go backwards after installing your wind turbine and solar array! Net Metering will help reduce your bill. Solar only works 8 hours a day. Wind is operable 24 hours a day. Go to to sovdepot dot com We have all your inverters, charge controllers, wind turbine, and solar array needs.
Hello, We live in Cleveland Tennessee. We got hit by storms and had no power for weeks and looking to be without it for several months. I am a father of three and thank God for you videos. Were tired of being a slave to the power company and looking to do what ever we can to change over slowly and as cheeply as possable. Any info is helpful. Thank God I run across theres videos. We went to Harbor Freight and got three cases of 45 watt panels for 139 dollars each on sale and two deep cycle batt
@Mec4876 This kind of comment is not in the least necessary. It shows your own poor judgement and lack of training. Your parents must be so proud. A little civility can go a long ways.
can you put a solar panel in series like 2 solar panel together pos to pos and two more the same and take the two groups of panels to take the load by puting the 2 of two in series
How to improve GTI & PV PNL system. Home made pnl (72 3x6 cells Voc=36VDC; Vload=24vdc). PNL designed for 24vdc system .Industry suggest 150% volts cell design 36vdc. For 24vdc system. Pmax for PNL is @ 24vdc. Why will GTI shutdown causing voltage to go to 36v; not reverse process.Placing a 2sec short on PNL causes GTI to start work.
hi dan it's oliver. just want to give a piece of my mind. i think im not convinced yet that your meter is greedy. here's why 1 digit represents 1 kilowatt hour right? tell me if im wrong. and your giving off only more or less 200 watts so that is basically 0.2 kw. you are running that for 40 - 46 mins, so it's only more or less0.133 kilowatt hour. the meter will not registered that. what is suggest is since you are giving off 200 watts why not try to run that for 5+ hours and see wat happens.
That's an older type of meter that was to be setup for time of use rate (TOU). The newer meters GE or Landis&Gyr will display the real time kWh that the house is drawing. I was able to get my draw (when not home) around .180kwh. So the Harbor freight solar panel, GTI and batteries would actually help to offset my usage?
the power utility companies are all starting to install electronic meters so the will only read in one direction .They know people will install those inverters and are going to try and tell you that your inverter dont work.The days of public utility and grid systems are history
not sure if this is the right place to ask but do you know anything about that Enasolar inverter? is it any good and can it by purchased for home in stall?
Hey DAn, I want to use 12v panels but also a grid tie inverter. Now I believe you said I need to have the batteries connected in series to have 24v does that mean I need to have the solar panels in 24v series as well or can I have them jus t run 12v to the batter bank ?
Hi Dan, Excellent demo. You have a 200 watts inverter and a greedy meter. The meter reads 427 17 and it didn't go back after 40 minutes of pushing 200 watts. My question is" Let's say my appliances are pulling 199 watts and the grid tie inverter is pushing 200 watts, does the greedy meter should still go forward above 427 17 or it just gonna barely stay at 427 17. REGARDS( JUAN )
You maybe have a "greedy" meter, maybe not. You are supplying 200W when your meter has a resolution of 1kWh. That means that you need to leave the GTI running for 5 hours before you supply 1kWh back into the grid, at which moment the reading should decrement by 1kWh. Go try it again and lest us know.
@greenpowerscience I have a question about putting electricity back into the grid with a grid tie inverter, how much would the power company pay me for sending 200 watts back into the grid?
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE if you had electricity coming from the power outlet and you rigged up a regular inverter to it, but you didnt have a battery hooked to it, what would happen? would it fry it?
Great video but here is crazy question can you put grid tie inverters in series just like batteries to increase possibility of higher voltage (over 55VDC) being split among inverters in series and keep amps the same so you don't go over the input voltages on inverters.
You can get 60-70 volts on wind turbine but grid tie inverter only operate 28-55vdc so it would burn out than.
Just for your information if you have a new Smart Meter outside your house, grid tie inverter like this do not work at all. What I mean is Smart Meter does not slow down the meter or runs backward. Your are just basically wasting your money. You need to install also a NET metering. This is what I learn from my local electric company!
bummer cloudy day :(( just pressure cleaned my roof over the last few days im burnt as haha being up there looking at all the wasted space im in on the green DIY baby..
I want to use 2 sets of 12v panels and one 12v wind turbine. What's the best way for me to go? You suggest not running the panels parallel but everything is 12v. Are 12v grid inverters an option? Do I need three inverters and should I put batteries between the panels, wind and the grid inverters? thanks!
if you turn off your main in the house how is it possible to get a reading on the house meter? you just disconnected it by turning off the main in the house therefore the power from the grid tie inverter cannot give you a reading on the house meter. please reply
Dan - do you have any good locations to get a grid tie inverter? I would like to make a system that maintains the battery's and then gives the excess to the grid tie.. any advice... I also know to truly turn the meter backwards I believe you need to feed to both legs of the main line not just one leg.
Dan - do you have any good locations to get a grid tie inverter? I would like to make a system that maintains the battery's and then gives the excess to the grid tie.. any advice
Dan, could you explain to me how the energy goes to the grid when you say you have to turn the Main breaker off when you tie the inverter to your home wiring.
First, Thanks for the video. I have a 2000 12v inverter, but didn't know about a Grid Tie Inverter. Good to know! I'm planning on using a combination of wind and solar power to charge up a battery bank (I have to work up a little more math first!). at 7:42, the pop-up box on the right said that in an electricity outage, the safety feature shuts it down. Is there a switch to swap from a drid tie inverter over to a regulat inverter?... or should I NOT try that? I don't want my food to spoil!
I'm planning on building a conbination of solar and wind devices to charge up a battery bank. The pop-up at 7:42 said that it won't work if the electricity goes off. Could I just use a regular inverter at that point?... or when the electricity comes back on would that fry a regular inverter (I have a 2000 watt one that I use to put Christmas lights on my car in parades)? Didn't know the difference in regular inverters (like mine), and Grid tie inverters. Thanks for thye education!!!
Great Video :) At 6:27 you explained how these inverters need panels capable of 200 watts. I want to run completely off the grid. I have a series of (20) 200 watt panels for a total of 4000 watts and I will be using 2000 watts per hour from the panels for only 5 hours a day. thats only 10000 watts usage. where does the other 10000 watts that my panels generated go. is this power wasted or will a regular solar inverter store it??
Dan I like your videos thank you very much. One thing I would like to comment is that it has too many red text notes. The notes are not very clear and you can't really put so much info there. It seems to me like it was worth it to take the time in the video itself to explain the warning and disclaimers. Thanks again.
Have you ever thought about doing a video on using UPS as an inverter for solar/wind? Can you use large deep cycle batteries instead of the tiny batteries that are installed in the UPS? And can the UPS be used without it having to be plugged into the wall?
Hi Dan, great video, maybe you can tell me if I can use all my panels with one 300 watt grid tie power inverter. I have three 15 watt panela and one 75 watt panel
and I was going to buy one 300 watt grid tie power inverterv a PSWGT-300
i have a question dude like if i buy 2 80w solar panels and hook it up to the inverter and hook it up to the wall will this work a nd if yes like how exactly does it work when there is no light does that mean the inverter sucks power back from the house?
Nice video. One thing you could have done though was to plug a splitter or extention cord into your Kill-A-Watt wattmeter, them some device pulling more than 200W, such as a toaster into one socket of the cord, then the inverter into the other to let us see the power draft from the grid drop by 200W :P
So for example, if the toaster was pulling 800W without the inverter, it'd read 600W with the inverter plugged in :P
Thanks for the clear presentations. I learn a lot from you.
I plan to connect 3 solar panels in PARALLEL (each 15 Watts, 12 VDC, bought from Harbor Freight) to a GTI (300 Watts, 14-28 VDC), without batteries, to feed the grid. Someone on Harbor Freight 45 Watt Solar Panel Kit Community Forum says this works. Do you think it will work?
One on the Forum says I should put the panels in SERIES for efficiency. But your video says this may damage panels. Is it still true? Thanks for guidance.
Question: If I want to supplement with a grid-tie inverter, do I have to be concerned about net-metering? I don't know the what type of power meter is on my house. I don't want to make my meter spin faster and be charged more for producing electricity.
this could be a really dangerous situation; all supplies should be fed on the supply side of your fuse box. If you had a fault with this unit connected it may not cause the fuse or breaker to trip. if you had several of these units connected to the same circuit you are multiplying the risk of burning your house down.
Lets look at a situation where you have ten of these units hooked up, thats arouns 2 amps each giving a total 20 amps. if the circuit they are connected to
i have a question, if you were to have a 12 volt inverter running off your average marine deep cycle, then plugged in a battery charger into the inverter like a black and decker charger and atached it to the battery thats running the inverter, in theory wouldnt that make an everlasting power suply? can u explain any way how this wouldnt work, the charger should be putting more into the battery then its draining from the inverter.
I know that this is an older video (at this date in 2010), but after seeing your video on the Uni-Solar PV-124, I got a bit curious. I'll need to do some figuring to set up a system around the 42v panels. Too bad that here in Arkansas, Entergy requires a home system to be capable of 30KW before they will do do Net Metering. Thanks for the great info!
@72542 There are now inverters that run on 28v - 60 v range. They are on Ebay. I have tested but still need more data as I was only able to get 40 watts. Need to figure out why.
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE Hi Dan, I've been researching these grid tie inverters from SunG and I don't think any of them are UL or IEEE compliant. If you plug them in and your power company finds out, I'm guessing there could be issues. What are your thoughts on this? Will they be able to find out? Thanks!
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE Hi dan, I was doing research on these Sun G grid tie inverters and it seems that they are not UL or IEEE compliant. I'm guessing if you plugged one of these in and your power company found out, there could be issues. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think they'd be able to find out?
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE Hi dan, I was doing research on these Sun G grid tie inverters and it seems that they are not UL or IEEE compliant. I'm guessing if you plugged one of these in and your power company found out, there could be issues. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think they'd be able to find out?
Utility companies are just going to have to be mandated to eat it - if they can't -or won't- provide enough power capacity.
It's in their interest to have vacant in the daytime homes pumping power into the grid during peak demand hours. So utilities need to be challenged to get rational and helpful - or lose their privileges to our commons. We the people own the easements and rights-of-way.
do i need to ask my electric provider and or homeowners insurance b4 installing one of these. this is a great idea giving people who rent a chance to go green and save on electric bills. b4 this renters had no way to tie to the grid please mail me if you know the answers to my questions thank you
Thank you for the clear explanation,s you give, i find you easy to follow and i understand new thing better when shown and explained the way you do .
i understand the saving money with electrical power devices is hard but it,s important to inform ourselves at how we can improve and comsume less energie at the least be more energie wise ,again thank you.
More and more people are going to be doing things like this and bigger, I hope a class action law suit is going on to stop the power company's from only taking from people and not buying back. Right now, its just a power company scam going on.
hello from Australia, you are a very informative young man, thank you Dan, we are looking to go solar and love your videos... say hello to lovely wife also, i like to see you both teaching us about things ( i seen the wind generator videos and you let the wife use a band saw!!!!! you are a great team and very funny also...have fun and love your wife ok all the best....peace....
Isn't this illegal to do per NEC code? These inverter have not been tested or listed for back-feeding. They should have a dedicated circuit shouldn't they?
Are you able to plug in more than one GTI into your house system? How can/do you conect 2 or more "home made" solar panels together, and would that help with the GTI?
what do you mean in the clip.. the text box.. If the grid tie inverter run from solar panels directly the panels can get damaged? That IS the way you normally use the grid tie inverters.. Do i missunderstand what you mean? if your panel do not produce 200w its fine. if you have a panel producing over 200w you are wasting it since the inverter cant take care of it all...
Yes, its in your comment text in the video clip. The main use for a grid-tie inverter IS to connect it direct to the solar panels. Batteries should not be added in the equation at all for this case. They do nothing good if you aim to feed power to the "on-grid" :) I will order a grid-tie inverter any day now too :) .. wee!
I thought that too, then realised that maybe it just needs to drop below half a KWh difference ie 1.5 is rounded to 2.0, 1.4 is rounded to 1.0. As the meter had only just increased by one, it should not be too far to reverse it however, Dan's text states average house uses 3KWh constant, so 1kw every 20mins. 200w GTI will take 5x as long (more like 6x with efficiency drop and heat loss), so 1hr40.
Dan, please answer my question I'm 12 years old and i have a 15 watt (12v 1 amp) solar panel and i currently own 250 dollers and I'm going to by the grid tie inverter and a Kill-A-Watt meter and i want to buy the 250w version and save 10 dollers a year so my parents give me 10 dollers a year would my 15 watt soler panel do nothing or do something
i got it figured out they are all dc i use a battery for a buffer so not to pop my inverter plus i can trap every once of power so not to have to wait till my windmills get up to voltage to power the inverter i have managed to cut my bill by 40 bucks this month with them and a couple solar panels and of course the most important thing cutting back on usage and parasitic drains like the tv and vcr by switching the power off at a surge strip when not in use
i got it figured out they are all dc i use a battery for a buffer so not to pop my inverter plus i can trap every once of power so not to have to wait till my windmills get up to voltage to power the inverter i have managed to cut my bill by 40 bucks this month with them and a couple solar panels and of course the most important thing cutting back on usage and parasitic drains like the tv and vcr by switching the power off at a surge strip when not in use
Hi Dan, Great video! I have the 45w Harbor freight kit. If I understand...All I would need is a grid tie inverter correct? Then hook the inverter up directly to the pamels yes? Thanks
Good job with the videos Dan! I was just wondering why would the GTI damage the panels if you hook it up directly to them without using a battery?? You said the panels won't be able to handle the load?? If so then why?? Sorry if its a stupid question hehehe..
hey Dan, so many people take what they have for granted. and are not doing anything about it. i too had began this green campaign and can really appreciate what you are doing.
Hey Dan!-I"m sure you get the same questions over and over but I just wanted to say Thanks for making the world a healthier/more economical place! Once I get my set up going I'm going to show others too!-AMERICA needs this technology in sooo many ways! nice work!
Could you make a video that ties all yours together I am missing the big picture Examples: How much would a system cost a three bedroom house to be completely self reliant. or how about running a cooling system that only runs during the day when solar powering it. What would be the cost of these projects and what do we have to do as americans to force the power companies to be more green friendly? Im sure they don want us to ever make more power than we can consume.
@mmoedu The cost per watt is what you would base it on. First step is conservation. CPF lights or LED, Light colored roof, insulation, Energy efficient appliances. All this is easy and better to spend money there before buying a big system. Once you knock your Ebill down, then you will have cheaper solar options. Ex makes no sense adding 100watt panel to supplement incandescent 100 watt bulbs. Swapping 4 bulbs for cpf costs $10 saves 300 watts=$750 in panels Also check our channel we cover a lot
Hey, In another of your videos you have a panel less than 200w running this inverter fine.
Is that something that can be done? As I would like to just have say a 100w panel...with this inverter...and could have a system to lower bills without needed to keep buying batteries that die every 5-6 years.
@hippyraverocker Yes, the Voltage is what matters, these need to have 14V-35V and they run. The amount of Watts is up to the amperage and volt on a loaded circuit. So the 80 watt panel open 21V loaded 14V runs about 63 watts direct.
dan love what you are doing have grid tie inverter made 3 windmills want to tie it all together should i attach it all to batteries then to the grid tie inverter with a diversion load to my second grid tie inverter? suggestions for me?
this is the reason they have electrical codes. because when you hook this up this way as he is doing. It can kill someone . Say the power goes of and you hook this up and it is on-- here comes the power co guy to see what is going on there is still power there from you. if he touches it it can kill him.
Yes it will run your shop. But he is misleading in this video. You have to put a double throw box on the wall next to your breaker box, so you can flip the switch to main or inverted power. He say you can supplement the power by hooking this in an outlet [[ wrong]] . This is why the power company will shut you of if you do this and they catch you.
My shed/shop has its own fuse box connected to the house on a line from the main box. If I isolate and disconnect it from the main, will this grid tie inverter still run the outlets in the structure?
Hello i have just ordered one of these its a 300w version i have made a wind turbine that will produce power to produce anything from 2volts to 60 volts depending on the wind i dont want to fry my invertor i must have to regulate the power any ideas ? Why do so many sad people watch these videos then make stupid comments!
If you hook solar panels directly to these without using a battery bank.Will it fry the inverters if the grid goes down and the panels are producing full power?
At 230 watts output, the inverter would have to run about 4.3 hours in order to produce 1 kw-H of energy. In 45 minutes, it would have produced about 0.172 kw-H of energy. But it is a good start! You might not need another meter, only more patience! I enjoy the videos, keep up the good work!
If you supply the grid with electricity from your house won't repair people potentially be in danger if they work on the lines energized unknown to them
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jonathoncrowe28 4 days ago
could i modify an inverter to become a grid tie? like you say you need to just match the frequency an regulate the voltage, like a batter charger.
lykenth08 1 week ago
You need to make a kilowatt an hour to turn back the meter. Or about five hours of 200 watts of power.
HappyMeal255 1 week ago
ok, i have a grid-tie inverter now but it says range of 10v or so till 28v or so, so with 12v solar panels it should also work then , not ? however in the manual it says it requires a minimum of 30w for it to work ( for a 200w grid-tie inverter ) , i have 48w in totall on solar panels, hooked it up and red fault led burning alot , and the green led when plugged to wall-socket is good , does this mean that the sun wasnt shining enough to get to minimum of 30w or other problem ?
SpeedManiac1976 1 month ago
@SpeedManiac1976 i think you should hook the inverter to the battery and the solar panel t the battery
carlojpf2 3 weeks ago
@carlojpf2
yeah i thought about that too, using it as a buffer, from battery it takes about 18w or so from 12v battery ( even though it says it can take between 10v upto 28v ) , but hooking two 12v batteries together to get 24v then should take more somebody else adviced, more efficient than and all, i shall make sometime a movie too from stuff i got & all ... thanks
SpeedManiac1976 3 weeks ago
Not a greedy meter, the Grid Tie inverter must sense the incoming power feed from the outside grid. When you turned the main power to off the safety feature kicked in and no output power was feeding to the grid. This is so if power is lost it wont kill a line worker outside at the pole. Still got your point across and was a nice job explaining energy savings.
alexdomanjr 1 month ago
Hi! I'm using multiple grid-tie inverters in my house, however my meter is not the traditional one. Rather I'm using a prepayment card of prepaid meter? Though during daytime, my electricity consumption seems to have reduced a bit but I'm not sure if it makes my prepaid go backward? Can you discuss about this issue for me? Likewise, my wind turbine is just generating a fluctuating volts between 6-12 volts, can this voltage ranges really make a difference? Thanks
teddydogification 1 month ago
can anything be plugged in at the same time or does it have to be by its self on the one breaker
WRH052970 1 month ago
@WRH052970 you can use them all on the same circuit as everything else, they don't have to be seperate, good idea to put it on a surge protector though.
hooterman2828 1 month ago
Thank you for all your great research and videos! It's a big help to so many people.
oilspeculatorhater 1 month ago
0:46 you state if the power goes off, the inverter stops working....however 8:36 you switched off your power, and the inverter worked? Sorry im new to all this, please help me understand.
Im looking into buying 4k watt panels, with a charge, 32 batteries, and a 4k grid tie inverter. Im stuck on understanding which inverter to purchase, as i'm looking to cover 100% of my electric from these panels, however, I need my system to always operate regardless of having the companies power on or off. ty
unusualphunk 2 months ago
ive learn't more about solar power in the last half hour than in the last few years put together. brilliantly instructive videos.
johnporro 2 months ago
Dan, How do you get power back to the meter if you turn off the main?
I think you should have turned off all circuits except for the one that had the grid tied inverter and left the main on.. Anyway great video.. Are these legal or do states have some requirements to stop homeowners from doing this
bitplayer18 2 months ago
If this technology could get real currency, power companies could re-evaluate their grids. Not every homesite makes for a prime customer. Considering maintenance and easements, some areas are only marginally profitable. Why not own interest in sister companies that convert homes to off-grid or "low-grid" power and help maintain the home systems? Over a period of 20 years, simple attrition of grid networks could slow down fossil fuel consumption greatly.
BooGooNFlowoo4Evoo 3 months ago
Not for the general public until: 1) broad industry standards for safety/compatibility develop for US solar/wind hybrid systems 2) net metering is legal in most states (unlikely soon due to electricity theft/technical issues) 3) total power systems are available in kits that meet codes in most cities 4) most electricians are educated on these systems 5) insurance companies allow them 6) none of this happens until *gulp* big power companies start buying up the best alternative energy startups.
BooGooNFlowoo4Evoo 3 months ago
IS it true: DIY grid tie is illigal ?
calimanmancali 3 months ago
@calimanmancali Depends where you live. There are state laws, local codes, and contract provisions by the power companies. In my area it requires insurance, an official inspection, and a statement from the COMPANY that manufactures the components. You would never get a DIY system through those hurdles. But different areas and different power companies may have different rules.
JeffTheHokie 3 weeks ago
Really good video! Very helpful! Thanks!
MacOSJoey 5 months ago
What the Amp of the baterry?
thanks
RodrigoJF1985 5 months ago
If you did build a system to back feed at power levels over 1 kW you would need to verify that all the wiring on that circuit is of a heavy enough gauge to support that load, most wiring in your home will support a minimum of 1.2 kW, if your over that you could potentially cause a fire.
Prometheus203 6 months ago
I have a Honda EU1000 that I use for camping. It won't run my microwave
My 2000 watt xantrax inverter will run my microwave for short times but it is boarder line. Could this gridtie inverter be used on an inverter style generator to increase the total watts that I need. Will this unit care about inverter to inverter power? Could I also injet the power into my inverter.
timcat100 6 months ago
FPL wont let your meter run backwards unless you have a net metering.
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elfman2010 6 months ago
what wed site you got the inverter from and do you need a battery bank
elfman2010 6 months ago
Hi Dan. so can you plug in two inverters to a battery bank? I have a 240 watt solar panel with a 920AH bank of battery. My 1500 watt inverter is running everything in my house and im planning to buy a portable electrical stove which i would need another 2000 watt inverter to run the 1500 watt stove, so is it doable to hook an additional inverter to the battery??? Thanks
ProtocolsMaster 7 months ago
Did u flip your main breaker
Hawks6259 7 months ago
awesome vid, thanks for the helpful info
mrdrumsauce 7 months ago
My question is, if my turbine catches so strong wind and starts cranking out 100+ volts is this going to fry the GT-inverter?? I have seen a couple of them with higher voltage inputs but in every case I've seen there is always a set range such as 12-28 or 22-60 volt. So again would this mean that anything outside of this voltage either won't turn it on or if higher will it fry it? Sorry so long and hope I didn't make this more complicated then it is. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks
brycejcox 7 months ago
Ok so I have a question. I'm in the middle of building a wind turbine and I just scored me a baldor 1 HP 5 amp 180 volt DC motor, scooped it @ a swap meet for 8 bucks. So I hooked it up to my trusty fluke and i was getting 12-15 volts out of it just by spinning it by hand. I have been looking to buy a grid tie inverter and one that caught my eye said the DC input was 12-28 volt or something like that. My question is, if my turbine catches so strong wind and starts cranking out 100+ volts is thi
brycejcox 7 months ago
First of all u must have turned off every individual breaker & not the main, & then turned on a single breaker with no load on it & plugged the inverter into that. As if u shut the main breaker off u have disconnected ur panel to ur meter. Unless u jumped into between ur meter &ur panel. Better to get proper disconnect panel that will run ur solar or wind to grid. Hydro pays higher rate for hydro produced then what a homeowner gets charged for using. Yes u need about 5 hours to make 1Kw @ 200w
Justmyside 7 months ago
Say I have a small wind turbine and a small bank of batteries, say 48 volts. If my batteries dropped below the lowest working rating of the inverter would it shut off and allow them to come back to full charge or does it place a constant drain on them? Seems like the inverter would really shorten the life of even a true deep cycle battery. Would I not be able to just run straight from the wind turbine to the GTI and bypass using batteries all together if my stator was wired to put DC voltage?
sirtom68 7 months ago
???? can i just buy 1 and plug it in with out doing ang thing weird to my parents electricty
wifebeater756 7 months ago
That meter measures KWH thats 1000 Watts per hour. YOU are only doing 1/5 that so you needed to wait 5 hours to see a change.
FearTurtles 7 months ago
if your main was shut off how was it feeding back into the system?
cbr6864 7 months ago
@cbr6864 ...Well there's ya problem.
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BradlyMorris 7 months ago
In Croatia you have to sign a contract with power company to feed the power back to grid and than you can sell it to them. You can't just plug the inverter and make your meeter go backwards.
koktelici 7 months ago
Good video, well done. I learned a little.
stingrazor2 7 months ago
hi i was wondering about a few things. So if the grid tie invertor is 200w then is that the maximum amount of watts it can produce?
Also if that is the maximum, does it need the maximum amount of volts to be able to produce 200w?
Thanks.
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indibry 8 months ago
they need to make these things cheaper .
bluediamond2077 8 months ago
Hello, We live in Cleveland Tennessee. We got hit by storms and had no power for weeks and looking to be without it for several months. I am a father of three and thank God for you videos. Were tired of being a slave to the power company and looking to do what ever we can to change over slowly and as cheeply as possable. Any info is helpful. Thank God I run across theres videos. We went to Harbor Freight and got three cases of 45 watt panels for 139 dollars each on sale and two deep cycle batt
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potatoepeter1 8 months ago
@Mec4876 This kind of comment is not in the least necessary. It shows your own poor judgement and lack of training. Your parents must be so proud. A little civility can go a long ways.
consaka1 8 months ago
can you put a solar panel in series like 2 solar panel together pos to pos and two more the same and take the two groups of panels to take the load by puting the 2 of two in series
MrBigbmcc 9 months ago
@MrBigbmcc and neg to neg
MrBigbmcc 9 months ago
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE Hey Dan, they make 5000 watt grid tie inverters on eby for 999.99 they're huge!
dylanthorner 10 months ago
How to improve GTI & PV PNL system. Home made pnl (72 3x6 cells Voc=36VDC; Vload=24vdc). PNL designed for 24vdc system .Industry suggest 150% volts cell design 36vdc. For 24vdc system. Pmax for PNL is @ 24vdc. Why will GTI shutdown causing voltage to go to 36v; not reverse process.Placing a 2sec short on PNL causes GTI to start work.
5j5estes 10 months ago
Turn the main disconnect back on so you can feed power back to the grid. I hope that works
ELREBELDE080808 10 months ago
Hey, i have a quick question. If there is a blackout and it stops working, then how does the meter turn backwards when you shut off the power?
hotsexybrownguy 10 months ago
@hotsexybrownguy it wont. These inverters will not work without a grid signal.
consaka1 8 months ago
nice, thanks so very much showing the most basic form of self powering energy,(not a word) helps me and milions i think
flacrabs1 10 months ago
hi i have a steca tarom 440 12v/24v/48v charge controller pwm battery charging. my panels are 24v but my batterys 12v will it go 24v to 12v thanks
ourkids12341 10 months ago
hi dan it's oliver. just want to give a piece of my mind. i think im not convinced yet that your meter is greedy. here's why 1 digit represents 1 kilowatt hour right? tell me if im wrong. and your giving off only more or less 200 watts so that is basically 0.2 kw. you are running that for 40 - 46 mins, so it's only more or less0.133 kilowatt hour. the meter will not registered that. what is suggest is since you are giving off 200 watts why not try to run that for 5+ hours and see wat happens.
paopaophil 11 months ago
Hey, I had a quick question about grid tie.
I have a 180 watt 36 V panel and a 85 watt 18 volt panel
A 300 watt grid tie can only handle 14 - 28 VOLTS
A 500 watt grid tie can handle 22 - 60 volts
How the heck would I try to grid tie both panels with just one grid tie inverter, since the voltages do not match up?
hotsexybrownguy 11 months ago
That's an older type of meter that was to be setup for time of use rate (TOU). The newer meters GE or Landis&Gyr will display the real time kWh that the house is drawing. I was able to get my draw (when not home) around .180kwh. So the Harbor freight solar panel, GTI and batteries would actually help to offset my usage?
Denniss7420 11 months ago
the power utility companies are all starting to install electronic meters so the will only read in one direction .They know people will install those inverters and are going to try and tell you that your inverter dont work.The days of public utility and grid systems are history
worseto 11 months ago
not sure if this is the right place to ask but do you know anything about that Enasolar inverter? is it any good and can it by purchased for home in stall?
MegaDavidparsons 11 months ago
Hey DAn, I want to use 12v panels but also a grid tie inverter. Now I believe you said I need to have the batteries connected in series to have 24v does that mean I need to have the solar panels in 24v series as well or can I have them jus t run 12v to the batter bank ?
TheSmaldo 11 months ago
Hi Dan, Excellent demo. You have a 200 watts inverter and a greedy meter. The meter reads 427 17 and it didn't go back after 40 minutes of pushing 200 watts. My question is" Let's say my appliances are pulling 199 watts and the grid tie inverter is pushing 200 watts, does the greedy meter should still go forward above 427 17 or it just gonna barely stay at 427 17. REGARDS( JUAN )
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smokesupp 1 year ago
You maybe have a "greedy" meter, maybe not. You are supplying 200W when your meter has a resolution of 1kWh. That means that you need to leave the GTI running for 5 hours before you supply 1kWh back into the grid, at which moment the reading should decrement by 1kWh. Go try it again and lest us know.
FearTriX 1 year ago
@greenpowerscience I have a question about putting electricity back into the grid with a grid tie inverter, how much would the power company pay me for sending 200 watts back into the grid?
dylanthorner 1 year ago
@dylanthorner Most power companys "Pay" 50 to 60% of what they charge.
RHEAD100 11 months ago
here in Indiana there is a monthly fee to have net metering....
indman101 1 year ago
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE if you had electricity coming from the power outlet and you rigged up a regular inverter to it, but you didnt have a battery hooked to it, what would happen? would it fry it?
dylanthorner 1 year ago
Great video but here is crazy question can you put grid tie inverters in series just like batteries to increase possibility of higher voltage (over 55VDC) being split among inverters in series and keep amps the same so you don't go over the input voltages on inverters.
You can get 60-70 volts on wind turbine but grid tie inverter only operate 28-55vdc so it would burn out than.
apabrato 1 year ago
awesome video......
bangbuddy 1 year ago
That was a great video! I loved it.
I have been doing electricity and electronics for 20+ years and you made it simple enough for most to understand. Nice job : )
And you are right, 'greedy meter'. They only will pay us HALF of what they charge for electricity. Corporate thieves! Thanks to our government.
What would they say if you only want to pay HALF your electric bill?!
song110beforgiving 1 year ago
Just for your information if you have a new Smart Meter outside your house, grid tie inverter like this do not work at all. What I mean is Smart Meter does not slow down the meter or runs backward. Your are just basically wasting your money. You need to install also a NET metering. This is what I learn from my local electric company!
moremov52 1 year ago
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moremov52 1 year ago
Nice infomative video.
jerrydesaulniers 1 year ago
As always, You are a great help for everyone. Thanks for taking the time to help out.
I now understand a GTI and how i could use it.
tom95076 1 year ago
where can i buy one ?
miniUMM 1 year ago
bummer cloudy day :(( just pressure cleaned my roof over the last few days im burnt as haha being up there looking at all the wasted space im in on the green DIY baby..
1overlordi 1 year ago
co????????????
8kuba88 1 year ago
meter was probly over .018 of a kwh and didnt tick backwards in the 40mins. It could have taken at most, 5 hours to go back a number!
RobOnDrugs 1 year ago
So if you have a 12v battery bank, it will not work?
FUBARPROTOCOL 1 year ago
hi dan
I want to use 2 sets of 12v panels and one 12v wind turbine. What's the best way for me to go? You suggest not running the panels parallel but everything is 12v. Are 12v grid inverters an option? Do I need three inverters and should I put batteries between the panels, wind and the grid inverters? thanks!
acrylizard 1 year ago
how many solar panels i need to power my she with 4 computer a tv, a cooler 5 lights? what? watss i need? wat? i need too get? can u help me
lynnCJones 1 year ago
if you turn off your main in the house how is it possible to get a reading on the house meter? you just disconnected it by turning off the main in the house therefore the power from the grid tie inverter cannot give you a reading on the house meter. please reply
hondacicle 1 year ago
@hondacicle
He left the one circuit breaker on which he was feeding power to.
pinkyzoey 1 year ago
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hondacicle 1 year ago
Dan - do you have any good locations to get a grid tie inverter? I would like to make a system that maintains the battery's and then gives the excess to the grid tie.. any advice... I also know to truly turn the meter backwards I believe you need to feed to both legs of the main line not just one leg.
kary1982v6 1 year ago
Dan - do you have any good locations to get a grid tie inverter? I would like to make a system that maintains the battery's and then gives the excess to the grid tie.. any advice
kary1982v6 1 year ago
It may not be the meter. At 200 watts wouldn't it take 5 hours to get a kw. Isn't is a kwh meter?
cribbagepogo 1 year ago
Dan, could you explain to me how the energy goes to the grid when you say you have to turn the Main breaker off when you tie the inverter to your home wiring.
Thanks
mqas1956 1 year ago
First, Thanks for the video. I have a 2000 12v inverter, but didn't know about a Grid Tie Inverter. Good to know! I'm planning on using a combination of wind and solar power to charge up a battery bank (I have to work up a little more math first!). at 7:42, the pop-up box on the right said that in an electricity outage, the safety feature shuts it down. Is there a switch to swap from a drid tie inverter over to a regulat inverter?... or should I NOT try that? I don't want my food to spoil!
TexWillis 1 year ago
I'm planning on building a conbination of solar and wind devices to charge up a battery bank. The pop-up at 7:42 said that it won't work if the electricity goes off. Could I just use a regular inverter at that point?... or when the electricity comes back on would that fry a regular inverter (I have a 2000 watt one that I use to put Christmas lights on my car in parades)? Didn't know the difference in regular inverters (like mine), and Grid tie inverters. Thanks for thye education!!!
TexWillis 1 year ago
Great Video :) At 6:27 you explained how these inverters need panels capable of 200 watts. I want to run completely off the grid. I have a series of (20) 200 watt panels for a total of 4000 watts and I will be using 2000 watts per hour from the panels for only 5 hours a day. thats only 10000 watts usage. where does the other 10000 watts that my panels generated go. is this power wasted or will a regular solar inverter store it??
traphic11y 1 year ago
where did you get the grid tie inverter?
collintheapplegeek 1 year ago
Dan I like your videos thank you very much. One thing I would like to comment is that it has too many red text notes. The notes are not very clear and you can't really put so much info there. It seems to me like it was worth it to take the time in the video itself to explain the warning and disclaimers. Thanks again.
orenyny 1 year ago
Hey Dan,
Have you ever thought about doing a video on using UPS as an inverter for solar/wind? Can you use large deep cycle batteries instead of the tiny batteries that are installed in the UPS? And can the UPS be used without it having to be plugged into the wall?
vermiman 1 year ago
Hi Dan, great video, maybe you can tell me if I can use all my panels with one 300 watt grid tie power inverter. I have three 15 watt panela and one 75 watt panel
and I was going to buy one 300 watt grid tie power inverterv a PSWGT-300
azappliancetech 1 year ago
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azappliancetech 1 year ago
i have a question dude like if i buy 2 80w solar panels and hook it up to the inverter and hook it up to the wall will this work a nd if yes like how exactly does it work when there is no light does that mean the inverter sucks power back from the house?
madryboy 1 year ago
lol i pluged my standered inverter to the house shit me i shit my self BOOOOOOOM!!!!!! no jokes dont go doing it!!!!!
autograssboy 1 year ago
VERY GOOD EXPLANATION MR ROJAS
sterlingsan 1 year ago
Very well done my friend
lordserven1 1 year ago
I have order mine last week waiting for the arrival, Good video
4x4fireman 1 year ago
nice
gtopurple 1 year ago
Nice video. One thing you could have done though was to plug a splitter or extention cord into your Kill-A-Watt wattmeter, them some device pulling more than 200W, such as a toaster into one socket of the cord, then the inverter into the other to let us see the power draft from the grid drop by 200W :P
So for example, if the toaster was pulling 800W without the inverter, it'd read 600W with the inverter plugged in :P
Neutron939 1 year ago
Thanks for the clear presentations. I learn a lot from you.
I plan to connect 3 solar panels in PARALLEL (each 15 Watts, 12 VDC, bought from Harbor Freight) to a GTI (300 Watts, 14-28 VDC), without batteries, to feed the grid. Someone on Harbor Freight 45 Watt Solar Panel Kit Community Forum says this works. Do you think it will work?
One on the Forum says I should put the panels in SERIES for efficiency. But your video says this may damage panels. Is it still true? Thanks for guidance.
ChuckPasadena 1 year ago
Hi Dan- Thanks for the informative video.
Question: If I want to supplement with a grid-tie inverter, do I have to be concerned about net-metering? I don't know the what type of power meter is on my house. I don't want to make my meter spin faster and be charged more for producing electricity.
TheMancaveDweller 1 year ago
this could be a really dangerous situation; all supplies should be fed on the supply side of your fuse box. If you had a fault with this unit connected it may not cause the fuse or breaker to trip. if you had several of these units connected to the same circuit you are multiplying the risk of burning your house down.
Lets look at a situation where you have ten of these units hooked up, thats arouns 2 amps each giving a total 20 amps. if the circuit they are connected to
johnelectrical 1 year ago
i have a question, if you were to have a 12 volt inverter running off your average marine deep cycle, then plugged in a battery charger into the inverter like a black and decker charger and atached it to the battery thats running the inverter, in theory wouldnt that make an everlasting power suply? can u explain any way how this wouldnt work, the charger should be putting more into the battery then its draining from the inverter.
hheywire 1 year ago
200w inverter x 5 hours = 1kwh tick ??
userxo1 1 year ago
I know that this is an older video (at this date in 2010), but after seeing your video on the Uni-Solar PV-124, I got a bit curious. I'll need to do some figuring to set up a system around the 42v panels. Too bad that here in Arkansas, Entergy requires a home system to be capable of 30KW before they will do do Net Metering. Thanks for the great info!
72542 1 year ago
@72542 There are now inverters that run on 28v - 60 v range. They are on Ebay. I have tested but still need more data as I was only able to get 40 watts. Need to figure out why.
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 1 year ago
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE Hi Dan, I've been researching these grid tie inverters from SunG and I don't think any of them are UL or IEEE compliant. If you plug them in and your power company finds out, I'm guessing there could be issues. What are your thoughts on this? Will they be able to find out? Thanks!
sccrgolee 11 months ago
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE Hi dan, I was doing research on these Sun G grid tie inverters and it seems that they are not UL or IEEE compliant. I'm guessing if you plugged one of these in and your power company found out, there could be issues. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think they'd be able to find out?
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@GREENPOWERSCIENCE Hi dan, I was doing research on these Sun G grid tie inverters and it seems that they are not UL or IEEE compliant. I'm guessing if you plugged one of these in and your power company found out, there could be issues. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think they'd be able to find out?
sccrgolee 11 months ago
@72542
Utility companies are just going to have to be mandated to eat it - if they can't -or won't- provide enough power capacity.
It's in their interest to have vacant in the daytime homes pumping power into the grid during peak demand hours. So utilities need to be challenged to get rational and helpful - or lose their privileges to our commons. We the people own the easements and rights-of-way.
billytheweasel 1 year ago
The power company is on to you, boy!
cusanusnicolas 1 year ago
do i need to ask my electric provider and or homeowners insurance b4 installing one of these. this is a great idea giving people who rent a chance to go green and save on electric bills. b4 this renters had no way to tie to the grid please mail me if you know the answers to my questions thank you
518schenectady 1 year ago
good video Dan. Thanks for sharing.
metrowash 1 year ago
Thank you for the clear explanation,s you give, i find you easy to follow and i understand new thing better when shown and explained the way you do .
i understand the saving money with electrical power devices is hard but it,s important to inform ourselves at how we can improve and comsume less energie at the least be more energie wise ,again thank you.
FrankaDith 1 year ago
More and more people are going to be doing things like this and bigger, I hope a class action law suit is going on to stop the power company's from only taking from people and not buying back. Right now, its just a power company scam going on.
DBSpy1 1 year ago
what is a GTA I`m not familiar with this term
peretegalben 1 year ago
what kind of grid tie inverter are you useing? been trying to find the best ones an some people say thay get pretty hot hope you can help thx..
semasse 1 year ago
hello from Australia, you are a very informative young man, thank you Dan, we are looking to go solar and love your videos... say hello to lovely wife also, i like to see you both teaching us about things ( i seen the wind generator videos and you let the wife use a band saw!!!!! you are a great team and very funny also...have fun and love your wife ok all the best....peace....
claudesclassics 1 year ago
where did you get the grid tie inverter? can u link the site?
lightshot1 1 year ago
Hey Dan, do we need to have our panels wired in series if we are to connect it directly to the GTI?
pennguy45 1 year ago
Hi Dan,
Isn't this illegal to do per NEC code? These inverter have not been tested or listed for back-feeding. They should have a dedicated circuit shouldn't they?
Tho1 1 year ago
Are you able to plug in more than one GTI into your house system? How can/do you conect 2 or more "home made" solar panels together, and would that help with the GTI?
cm4english 1 year ago
@cm4english You can, they usually recommend one per breaker. You can parallel several panels up to the GTI wattage.
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 1 year ago
the inverter's plug in cable looks dangerous, meaning that if you touch the pin(s) you'll have a nice surprise!..is that true? ...
GRATZIANI2002 1 year ago
thanks for that...will be looking deeper intop the possibilities.
wacpatch 1 year ago
thanks for the video!!
nx2overide 1 year ago
what do you mean in the clip.. the text box.. If the grid tie inverter run from solar panels directly the panels can get damaged? That IS the way you normally use the grid tie inverters.. Do i missunderstand what you mean? if your panel do not produce 200w its fine. if you have a panel producing over 200w you are wasting it since the inverter cant take care of it all...
taztaz79 1 year ago 2
@taztaz79 Where does it appear in the video? I meant to say in series. They recommend not doing that. Let me know so I can fix it.
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 1 year ago
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE
Yes, its in your comment text in the video clip. The main use for a grid-tie inverter IS to connect it direct to the solar panels. Batteries should not be added in the equation at all for this case. They do nothing good if you aim to feed power to the "on-grid" :) I will order a grid-tie inverter any day now too :) .. wee!
taztaz79 1 year ago
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE Aha ok.. I think it appear late in the video somewhere.. When you test it with the battery.
taztaz79 1 year ago
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE @ 6:28 you mention damage
postit940 1 year ago
MATBE THE METER NEEDS A WHOLE KILO-WATT TO GO BACKWARDS 1 NUMBER. IN OTHER WORDS ABOUT 5 HOURS TO REGISTER.
MUDDy
muddymuddymuddmann 1 year ago
@muddymuddymuddmann
I thought that too, then realised that maybe it just needs to drop below half a KWh difference ie 1.5 is rounded to 2.0, 1.4 is rounded to 1.0. As the meter had only just increased by one, it should not be too far to reverse it however, Dan's text states average house uses 3KWh constant, so 1kw every 20mins. 200w GTI will take 5x as long (more like 6x with efficiency drop and heat loss), so 1hr40.
IdyllicWoody 1 year ago
@IdyllicWoody tHANKS FOR THE INFO. i MISS THE OLD MECHANICAL METERS.
MUDDy
muddymuddymuddmann 1 year ago
I use a 12v to 24v dc to dc converter from Digi-Key's to supply the volts needed for the inverter. Great video thank you.
mvukovich11 1 year ago
Dan, please answer my question I'm 12 years old and i have a 15 watt (12v 1 amp) solar panel and i currently own 250 dollers and I'm going to by the grid tie inverter and a Kill-A-Watt meter and i want to buy the 250w version and save 10 dollers a year so my parents give me 10 dollers a year would my 15 watt soler panel do nothing or do something
need4speed402 1 year ago
i got it figured out they are all dc i use a battery for a buffer so not to pop my inverter plus i can trap every once of power so not to have to wait till my windmills get up to voltage to power the inverter i have managed to cut my bill by 40 bucks this month with them and a couple solar panels and of course the most important thing cutting back on usage and parasitic drains like the tv and vcr by switching the power off at a surge strip when not in use
carddarren 1 year ago
i got it figured out they are all dc i use a battery for a buffer so not to pop my inverter plus i can trap every once of power so not to have to wait till my windmills get up to voltage to power the inverter i have managed to cut my bill by 40 bucks this month with them and a couple solar panels and of course the most important thing cutting back on usage and parasitic drains like the tv and vcr by switching the power off at a surge strip when not in use
carddarren 1 year ago
Hi Dan, Great video! I have the 45w Harbor freight kit. If I understand...All I would need is a grid tie inverter correct? Then hook the inverter up directly to the pamels yes? Thanks
rblain4780 1 year ago
Good job with the videos Dan! I was just wondering why would the GTI damage the panels if you hook it up directly to them without using a battery?? You said the panels won't be able to handle the load?? If so then why?? Sorry if its a stupid question hehehe..
picnic366 1 year ago
hey Dan, so many people take what they have for granted. and are not doing anything about it. i too had began this green campaign and can really appreciate what you are doing.
mrsnowmanshow 1 year ago
Cool :)
At my house we do not have an
electronic house meter :(
we have a mechanical wheel that spins : /
social3ngin33rin 1 year ago
Hey Dan!-I"m sure you get the same questions over and over but I just wanted to say Thanks for making the world a healthier/more economical place! Once I get my set up going I'm going to show others too!-AMERICA needs this technology in sooo many ways! nice work!
Jeenyus1983 1 year ago
:-) Thank you!
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 1 year ago
@Jeenyus1983 ssorry i voted your comment down but i wanted to vote up... mistake
need4speed402 1 year ago
@greenpowerscience
Hey dan your videos are great, I thought of a really cool invention, I made a picture of what it looks like, whats your email Address?
dylanthorner 1 year ago
I have a link on our website, Greenpowerscience
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 1 year ago
Could you make a video that ties all yours together I am missing the big picture Examples: How much would a system cost a three bedroom house to be completely self reliant. or how about running a cooling system that only runs during the day when solar powering it. What would be the cost of these projects and what do we have to do as americans to force the power companies to be more green friendly? Im sure they don want us to ever make more power than we can consume.
mmoedu 1 year ago
@mmoedu The cost per watt is what you would base it on. First step is conservation. CPF lights or LED, Light colored roof, insulation, Energy efficient appliances. All this is easy and better to spend money there before buying a big system. Once you knock your Ebill down, then you will have cheaper solar options. Ex makes no sense adding 100watt panel to supplement incandescent 100 watt bulbs. Swapping 4 bulbs for cpf costs $10 saves 300 watts=$750 in panels Also check our channel we cover a lot
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 1 year ago
Hey, In another of your videos you have a panel less than 200w running this inverter fine.
Is that something that can be done? As I would like to just have say a 100w panel...with this inverter...and could have a system to lower bills without needed to keep buying batteries that die every 5-6 years.
hippyraverocker 1 year ago
@hippyraverocker Yes, the Voltage is what matters, these need to have 14V-35V and they run. The amount of Watts is up to the amperage and volt on a loaded circuit. So the 80 watt panel open 21V loaded 14V runs about 63 watts direct.
Dan
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 1 year ago
Hi Dan,Where can we purchase this type of inverter?
HHOhybridBuilder 1 year ago
dan love what you are doing have grid tie inverter made 3 windmills want to tie it all together should i attach it all to batteries then to the grid tie inverter with a diversion load to my second grid tie inverter? suggestions for me?
carddarren 1 year ago
@carddarren What is your wind mill generators? AC to rectifier or straight DC
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 1 year ago
It's not a greedy meter , It is trying to keep YOU from killing someone
truckstuffins 1 year ago
its the island protection shutting it down they do not work unless the grid is on
carddarren 1 year ago
Is the inverter that he is using an island protection grid tie inverter, If so my bad. I'm sorry I spoke out of place.
truckstuffins 1 year ago
this is the reason they have electrical codes. because when you hook this up this way as he is doing. It can kill someone . Say the power goes of and you hook this up and it is on-- here comes the power co guy to see what is going on there is still power there from you. if he touches it it can kill him.
truckstuffins 1 year ago
Yes it will run your shop. But he is misleading in this video. You have to put a double throw box on the wall next to your breaker box, so you can flip the switch to main or inverted power. He say you can supplement the power by hooking this in an outlet [[ wrong]] . This is why the power company will shut you of if you do this and they catch you.
truckstuffins 1 year ago
My shed/shop has its own fuse box connected to the house on a line from the main box. If I isolate and disconnect it from the main, will this grid tie inverter still run the outlets in the structure?
TheTwistedGypsy 1 year ago
Pretty neat, I only wish they made a hybrid model which could be a grid tie and a regular inverter in one.
sirmasterpimp 1 year ago
Hello i have just ordered one of these its a 300w version i have made a wind turbine that will produce power to produce anything from 2volts to 60 volts depending on the wind i dont want to fry my invertor i must have to regulate the power any ideas ? Why do so many sad people watch these videos then make stupid comments!
chudmail 1 year ago
@chudmail PEOPLE:-) ????? just how youtube is. Take the good with the bad.
For your inverter, you cannot fry, just wont work below 14v or above 60v.
you are 2-60 v DC yes?
what is your generator. DC
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 1 year ago
Generator is dc treadmill motor 3400rpm 220volts dc if you look on my youtube you will see it ,just got it up today it was very heavy
chudmail 1 year ago
If you hook solar panels directly to these without using a battery bank.Will it fry the inverters if the grid goes down and the panels are producing full power?
bluejay331 1 year ago
At 230 watts output, the inverter would have to run about 4.3 hours in order to produce 1 kw-H of energy. In 45 minutes, it would have produced about 0.172 kw-H of energy. But it is a good start! You might not need another meter, only more patience! I enjoy the videos, keep up the good work!
waffleone3 2 years ago
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Oralden 2 years ago
yes, ekimgiles - that is why the inverter shuts off if there is no power. That is the safe feature that he mentioned.
Oralden 2 years ago
If you supply the grid with electricity from your house won't repair people potentially be in danger if they work on the lines energized unknown to them
ekimgiles 2 years ago
haha i dont know why u guys would bother, the US has just started doing a rebate so u can get it for freeeeeee
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