Ron Paul on Palestine etc ABC Debate 12/10/11

[DjMindz]

you know what most christians forget

they act like palestine was inhabited by muslims only palestine always had christians living there and they were also thrown out of their houses their churches were destroyed and bibles burned

400.000 christian palestinians in refugee camps

[hehefromhere]

gingrich is good at propaganda, but dont get fooled!

[Youssefk6]

4 JEWS ARE LEFT

[Cryptopsy9666]

did you know Hamas was actualy created by Israel to help "political standings" in effect to negotiate peace talks and settlements and etc... untill Hamas realize Israel didn't care about there ever being a Palistine and left the support of Israeli lobbying and joined the PLO with Arafat as its leader.! AllahuAkbar Ameen! Asalaam Alaikum!

[The100black100]

@Cryptopsy9666 You have the Idea but The reason Israel created Hamas was because Plo at the time was gaining a huge majority vote, and their Campaign was to arim for a two-state solution negotioating 1967 borders. Israel did not want this so they financialy, politicaly, and Military pushed Hamas into the democrativ elections and made them win. Israel created Hamas as a violant group in order to beat PLO in the campain, and to stir up trouble with Israel to keep the wars going. Check my videos

[TagMahirTzedek]

Ron Paul voted FOR foreign aid to the Arabs! what a hypocrite.

[hotchkissrecords]

@TagMahirTzedek Explain yourself. There is no proof of this unless it was a constitutional situation. Perhaps your use of the word "Arabs!" is used loosely?

[warpervert1861]

@TagMahirTzedek No he's not. I support Israel, FUCK HAMAS, I want them obliterated, and I LOVE RON PAUL! Ron Paul is pro-Israel and he wants us to be their friend, not their parent. Trust me, he doesn't support the fakestinians, don't worry.

[Cryptopsy9666]

@warpervert1861 I support the palistinians... and I'm American, after all Israel owes alot of dept to Palestine for inhumane treatment once this argument of statehood is settled.

[TYwokki]

Hamas are extremists – not a political party. They’re funded by Iran - not Palestinians. Every time Israel acts hostile to Palestinians, Hamas is who answers. Not the ‘Muslims’, not the PLO and defiantly not the Palestinian People.

No intervention. No blame. UNs-242 needs to be pushed. Forced if necessary - but only by none-aggressive means like sanctions. Palestinians need equal rights and autonomy or there is nothing but more conflict to come.

And stop this 'War by Proxy' with Iran.

[IHateLeftists]

Sorry but it's you people who need to read the books. Newt is 100% correct on the issue and you can even go back and find quotes in the 70's from Arab League member who admitted at the time the creation of the fiction was nothing but a political device intended to be used in their war against the Jews. There is no such thing as a Palestinian as there has never been a nation called Palestine and that is simply a fact that's been over shadowed by anti-Semitic propaganda.

[filidizzle]

@IHateLeftists that sounds like an anti Palestinian excuse Palestinians are not terrorists they're fighting for their rights to stay on the little land they have left that Israel hasn't stolen all this ant Palestine crap that the us says is because of a fundamental christian/Judaic bond that it has with Israel Palestine has every right to be recognized as a people and a nation just like Israel

[filidizzle]

@1coolguysuper look we're talking about a people here not a nation whatever label you give them dose not change the fact that they have been living on that land for thousands of years and for Israel to come and take it is ballsy enough then you have the Palestinians on the tiny strip they have left saying hey we need sovereignty why dose Israel get it and they don't and you can't call them terrorists because Israel committed the same acts of violence on them its mutual warfare

[filidizzle]

@1coolguysuper another thing to add is that the hamas and fatah factions in Palestine have been working on reconciliation and the fact that they wen't to the UN to ask for sovereignty show how big of a people they are for all the atrocities they have suffered it makes me sick to see them labeled as terrorists the children that are killed by Israeli bombings are not terrorists Palestine deserves to be a nation just as much as Israel dose

[AbeAlJ]

@IHateLeftists First of all, we're talking about people, not a nation. Palestinians have lived in Palestine for thousands of years. Second of all, Palestine was part of larger arab countries, you're argument is essentially saying that there is no such thing as a new yorker because new york was never an independant country. Palestine was part of many caliphates and sultanates throughout its history and it was only used to indicate an area since they are ethnically the same as the rest of arabs.

[Maria29493]

@1coolguysuper And they coexisted with Arabs just fine long before the British military and European Jews popped up out of nowhere.

[warpervert1861]

@AbeAlJ They are ethnically the same as Arabs- you just proved yourself wrong. If New York was to become independent, wouldn't it be foolish to support that?

[AbeAlJ]

@warpervert1861 If "the United States Of America" was disassembled to "the States of America" by a foreign invader..then every other State became its own independent country except New York..then yes, i would say new york should also gain independence. Besides that, my rebuttle was that newt's " argument is essentially saying that there is no such thing as a new yorker because new york was never an independant country." What you said does not address that. Supporting them or not is irrelevant.

[Cryptopsy9666]

@warpervert1861 technicaly, the Isralis were of Georgian/Bosnian jews who travel to Europe and then placed in Palestine by the U.K. so in reality they are not Arabs the Israeli's, they from the Georgian Area (not Georgia of USA if people needed to know that extra info).

[The100black100]

@AbeAlJ I agree with the meat of your Paragraph but when you said that Palestinians are the same as Arabs I shuttered. Yes Palestinians and arabs are very alike, they have he alike culture and the alike language. But you are agreeing with these Zionist neocons by saying Most Palestinians are arabs. They want to make it seem liek we have no right to the land since if were arabs we should belong in Arabia not Palestine. Palestinians most likely come from Canaanites and other trives 1000s yrs ago.

[NJelBoi]

The fact is a non-intervention policy is best. When George Washington made the decision to lead America he envisioned a neutral country in the affairs of world politics. Now this simply is not the case. It doesn't mean we have to come against Israel, but we need to let Israel fight its own battles as its demonstrated time and time again that it can.

[hotchkissrecords]

@NJelBoi I wholeheartedly agree

[BrianFromDc]

Palestinians are the one who gave Israel to stay in Palestine's land back in 1941 when all Jews came from Europe. Now they stole 95% their land. Newt needs to educate himself about middle east's history.

[anotherchannel0]

Newt needs to read a book.