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  • *Peirce (pronounced same as purse)

  • Hey, I like that line of thought, that laws are not necessarily absolute and constant, but evolving and changing always. But isnt change a constant, sort of paradoxical...

  • There is a theology that goes along with a science of process, which posits both a transcendental (unknowable) Godhead (Being) who involves itself giving rise to our created world of becoming, which then evolves until it reaches Godhead once again. neat story : )

  • So if there were an ultimate being, us as finite ones could never conceive of it?

  • That'd be like biting your own teeth, as Watts says.

  • Ok, so we cannot conceive of the totality of the universe, even assume a totality because that implies a finite quantity. So, we can't then concieve of ourselves as we are part of infinity?? This is confusing.. Ken Wilbers idea of a Holon comes to mind, spiral dynamics.

  • Infinity is precisely that holarchic relation between all beings. The "whole which is a part of a larger whole" idea seems to go all the way up and all the way down. The Godhead is in a sense the groundless ground of everything. Infinity can't be said to have 'parts,' as no amount of parts could add up to infinity. It is one of those things that cannot be conceived of not because it doesn't exist but because rationality cannot comprehend it.

  • So thats it?

  • I don't know, what is it?

  • haha : )

  • @0ThouArtThat0

    Vitalism?

  • I've read some Semiotics -- Pierce, Saussure, Roland Barthes, Umberto Eco... but that was about human sign use, language, culture.

    Apparently this Semiosis takes the study of signs and relates it to biological organisms, evolution, and so on...?

  • Not completely related, but Steve, what do you do for work? Thanks for the video Matt, btw.

  • Yes, Steve. Biosemiosis is the study of signs in nature, whether between organisms or within the organisms themselves. Neo-Darwinism is already doing biosemiotics by way of all their talk of "information" in the genome... they just don't realize they are doing it. The semioticians are trying to make them conscious of the use of such concepts as "interpretation," which explicitly (and contradictorily) are rejected by standard reductionism/materialism.

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