Ciekawie to piaskowanie wygląda, taka letnia zadymka :D Tym drugim torem coś jechało później ? Bo widzę, że S2 na semaforze się paliło. Kciuk w górę i ul.
@Kolorowy8500 Oj tak ,teraz ta linia jest zamknięta z uwagi na budowe nowego wiaduktu ,myśle ze już za rok ponownie zawitają na kanał kadry wlasnie z tego wzniesienia Tczewskiej obwodowej
Dziękujemy za ten piękny film pokazujący jak lokomotywa Traxx może ciągnąć! Ok, chciałbym użyć nieco mniej piasku, ale przynajmniej zrobiła to. Proszę mi powiedzieć, linii, stacji i jakości, jeśli wiesz!
@peettheengineer my guess is that the train is driving in east direction and that the grade is at least 7 o/oo according to data from Google Earth. This is real tought to drive!
@peettheengineer My guess is that he means AFB-mode (If class 186 has AFB-mode). My experience is that the traction control works better in AFB than in manual mode. Could that be correct?
@morfeusz120 All Traxx have AFB mode. The feeling that it works better with AFB comes from the point that most engineer try to reduce the throttle once the locomotive starts to slip and that is with a Traxx locomotive wrong. You can not damage it by leaving the throttel on max traction, even if there is heavy soap(!) on the rail. We tried it many times.
@rotsekk I am an engine driver! And i don't need that mass of sand to drive a goods-train! And the rail seems to be dry! Mostly its better to reduce throttle!
I am also a engine driver, driving BR 185 on a daily basis in Norway. I counted 29 cars. If each of them weihgts about 80 tons that's a total of 2320 tons. I may be fooled by the angle, but the climb seems quite steep so I am not surprised that the driver had to use a lot of sand.
The big drawback with the Traxx-locos is that when the locomotive senses it's loosing grip, it automatically reduces the power on the the whole boggie, not just a single axle as BR 189 does.
@rotsekk Yes the big drawback with the Traxx-locos is that when the locomotive senses it's loosing grip, it automatically reduces the power on the the whole boggie.
This composition weighs 2,800 tons and a long hill and strongly inclined
thank you for the clarification. I had heard rumours about Bombardier planning to make a single axle control version, but thought it was somewhere in the future. Or is it just BR 186 that is made with single axel control?
But with a 2800 ton train and a heavy (What is heavy in Poland btw?) incline I still understand the need for sand :-)
It is true that the company Railway Lotos I ordered six diesel locomotives with electric traction gear TRAXX F140 DE are equipped with engines with a capacity of 2,400 kW.
First play as early as April 2011.
Please watch my channel, I will try to show it.
In Poland, the tonnage records designate class66 locomotive.
@rotsekk Bombardier will definitly make a new AC Traxx with single axle control. All DC Traxx have already single axle control starting with SBB Re 484 and including all 186 and derivates.
The heaviness of a train is always the relation between train weight and incline. That's the reason why I like to know where the incline is.
@peettheengineer Hi, so right now it's just the DC-version that's equipped with single axle control?
Regarding line knowledge: Here in the north we are not allowed to run solo on any lines without having run it first with an instructor. It's part of our training.
We do run on inclines up to 2,5 %. Max tonnage is as low as 700 tons. These inclines are between Kristiansand and Stavanger and Drammen and Alnabru (Oslo),
@peettheengineer I didn't know the Gotthard was as steep as 2,6%. That was interesting, thank you :-). 650 tons on 2,6% sounds reasonable compared to our 700 on 2,5
@rotsekk The future AC Traxx will also have single axle control. Beside communalities with BR 186 there will be some really new features. Stay tuned, I'm not allowed to say more right now.
As for the film Brutt it already was, however, exactly the 2033T on the hill in the wet longer likes to dance traxx tymbardziej that moved from the semaphore SBL. The largest slope in the area is 9 per mille. What is the maximum Brutt for it by the Traxx. 3650T documentation is for the maximum altitude to 8 per mille. The heaviest train as part of a tight left Lotus in May this year, was carried out Maxim, and the hook had gross 4998T .
@peettheengineer The single axle control is a big advantage I assume? The wag-9s here in India(You are probably familiar with them) have had horrendous adhesion issues. A few of the new ones have igbt kits with single axle control and the initial reports have been good.
@wapman28 Yes, I'm familiar with WAG-9 since I made them. At that time it was not possible to make a single axle control for a six axle locomotive. The converters would have been too big to fit in the locomotive. Hope that IR refit all of them to the new IGBT design.
beczki pełne?
ES64F41 3 months ago
z tego co widze na youtube to więcej wagonów podczepjają do eurosprintera
ES64F41 3 months ago
Który ma więcej siły ten traxx czy ES64F4
ES64F41 3 months ago
@ES64F41 Trudno okreslic ,to zależy od szlaku.Z tego co słyszałem Traxx bardziej dba o maszyniste.
morfeusz120 3 months ago
Co tak mozolnie ;D
alfajet777 6 months ago
@alfajet777 Pod górę ,sporo na haku i po deszczu
morfeusz120 6 months ago
@morfeusz120 Ja tu widzę spisek szyty grubymi nićmi . Zapewne ten deszcz to wina Tuska
alfajet777 6 months ago
@morfeusz120
Hej, bardzo fajny film, gratuluję i polecam wzięcie udziału w konkursie "Sfilmuj kolej z LOTOS Kolej".
1979Eskel 2 months ago
@ChrisPKP EU43
Bartek1789666 6 months ago
Ciekawie to piaskowanie wygląda, taka letnia zadymka :D Tym drugim torem coś jechało później ? Bo widzę, że S2 na semaforze się paliło. Kciuk w górę i ul.
Kolorowy8500 6 months ago
@Kolorowy8500 oj juz teraz to nie pamietam:(
morfeusz120 6 months ago
@Kolorowy8500 jezeli jest odcinek wolny, to na sbl`ce zawsze swieci sie s2 ;p
pngbsto 6 months ago
@Kolorowy8500 Oj tak ,teraz ta linia jest zamknięta z uwagi na budowe nowego wiaduktu ,myśle ze już za rok ponownie zawitają na kanał kadry wlasnie z tego wzniesienia Tczewskiej obwodowej
morfeusz120 6 months ago
@ChrisPKP Traxx dwusystemowy Lotosu.Jaka ma polska numeracje w papierach nie wiem
morfeusz120 7 months ago
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rafalkosikcom 9 months ago
Brudas xD
Kolej07 1 year ago
Mógłbyś napisać jaki to szlak.
120M 1 year ago
@120M Oczywiście.To obwodnica towarowa Tczewa.Film kręcony w kierunku na Bydgoszcz.Pozdr
morfeusz120 1 year ago
przecież to CYCEK
bubzonbubzon 1 year ago
Dziękujemy za ten piękny film pokazujący jak lokomotywa Traxx może ciągnąć! Ok, chciałbym użyć nieco mniej piasku, ale przynajmniej zrobiła to. Proszę mi powiedzieć, linii, stacji i jakości, jeśli wiesz!
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer Hello.
Please ask this question again in English.
Sorry
I have a problem with understanding.
Thanks for the nice comment
morfeusz120 1 year ago
@morfeusz120
Please tell me the location and if you know - the grade (0/oo) and the weight of the train (t). Tanks Peter
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer I live in Tczew and here mainly recorded trains
This composition weighs 2,800 tons and a long hill, heavily sloped and approximately 6 km long.
All configurations have a problem here trains to ride.
As more rain falls in August is wogole slide and even the sand does not help.
Thank you for your comments.
Regards Chris
morfeusz120 1 year ago
@morfeusz120 can you give me the exact coordinates of the location, where you took the video?
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer Hello. Location 54° 5'2.47"N , 18°46'10.76"E Tczew
Traxx single axle control.Said auto run?
morfeusz120 1 year ago
@morfeusz120 What is "Said auto run?". Is the train driving to the east or to the west, from the river away or to the river ?
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer my guess is that the train is driving in east direction and that the grade is at least 7 o/oo according to data from Google Earth. This is real tought to drive!
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer My guess is that he means AFB-mode (If class 186 has AFB-mode). My experience is that the traction control works better in AFB than in manual mode. Could that be correct?
rotsekk 1 year ago
@rotsekk I think you're right .I do not know this machine so thoroughly.
Ask a friend and write.
Please wait for a reply a few days
morfeusz120 1 year ago
@morfeusz120 All Traxx have AFB mode. The feeling that it works better with AFB comes from the point that most engineer try to reduce the throttle once the locomotive starts to slip and that is with a Traxx locomotive wrong. You can not damage it by leaving the throttel on max traction, even if there is heavy soap(!) on the rail. We tried it many times.
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer Yes, I agree
morfeusz120 1 year ago
Very amateurish this massive sanding!
dermischa 1 year ago
@dermischa Thanks
morfeusz120 1 year ago
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rotsekk 1 year ago
@dermischa How can you say it's amateurish?
Traxx have only sand to rely on when it get's slippery.
rotsekk 1 year ago
@rotsekk I am an engine driver! And i don't need that mass of sand to drive a goods-train! And the rail seems to be dry! Mostly its better to reduce throttle!
dermischa 1 year ago
@dermischa Hi Dermischa,
I am also a engine driver, driving BR 185 on a daily basis in Norway. I counted 29 cars. If each of them weihgts about 80 tons that's a total of 2320 tons. I may be fooled by the angle, but the climb seems quite steep so I am not surprised that the driver had to use a lot of sand.
The big drawback with the Traxx-locos is that when the locomotive senses it's loosing grip, it automatically reduces the power on the the whole boggie, not just a single axle as BR 189 does.
rotsekk 1 year ago
@rotsekk Yes the big drawback with the Traxx-locos is that when the locomotive senses it's loosing grip, it automatically reduces the power on the the whole boggie.
This composition weighs 2,800 tons and a long hill and strongly inclined
Thanks for coments
morfeusz120 1 year ago
@morfeusz120 This is not true for *your* Traxx. These have single axle control.
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@rotsekk This is true for *your* Traxx, but not for *their* Traxx. These are single axle control.
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer Hi,
thank you for the clarification. I had heard rumours about Bombardier planning to make a single axle control version, but thought it was somewhere in the future. Or is it just BR 186 that is made with single axel control?
But with a 2800 ton train and a heavy (What is heavy in Poland btw?) incline I still understand the need for sand :-)
rotsekk 1 year ago
@rotsekk Hello again.
It is true that the company Railway Lotos I ordered six diesel locomotives with electric traction gear TRAXX F140 DE are equipped with engines with a capacity of 2,400 kW.
First play as early as April 2011.
Please watch my channel, I will try to show it.
In Poland, the tonnage records designate class66 locomotive.
I heard a summary of the 5600 T:)))
Regards Chris
morfeusz120 1 year ago
@morfeusz120 I saw it allready. the first one is sitting in Kassel, Germany.
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@morfeusz120 Hi, we considered the diesel version, but found it to weak for our lines.
At the moment we are hiring four Me26/De2700 from Vossloh. These are ex NSB Di6.
We are also discussing hiring Class 66 as an operational reserve.
What are the maximum inclines in Poland?
rotsekk 1 year ago
@rotsekk Bombardier will definitly make a new AC Traxx with single axle control. All DC Traxx have already single axle control starting with SBB Re 484 and including all 186 and derivates.
The heaviness of a train is always the relation between train weight and incline. That's the reason why I like to know where the incline is.
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer Great knowledge from you.
You Working on a railroad?
Thank you Peter
morfeusz120 1 year ago
@peettheengineer Hi, so right now it's just the DC-version that's equipped with single axle control?
Regarding line knowledge: Here in the north we are not allowed to run solo on any lines without having run it first with an instructor. It's part of our training.
We do run on inclines up to 2,5 %. Max tonnage is as low as 700 tons. These inclines are between Kristiansand and Stavanger and Drammen and Alnabru (Oslo),
rotsekk 1 year ago
@rotsekk Sounds like Switzerland. Standard wight on Gotthard is 26 o/oo and 650 t train weight.
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer I didn't know the Gotthard was as steep as 2,6%. That was interesting, thank you :-). 650 tons on 2,6% sounds reasonable compared to our 700 on 2,5
Do you work as an engineer?.
rotsekk 1 year ago
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peettheengineer 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@morfeusz120 @rotsekk Ok, I should have introduced me myself. I'm one of the Bombardier test engineer and drive the test trains
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer Ah, that explains your knowledge :-)
Nice talking to you :-)
rotsekk 1 year ago
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peettheengineer 1 year ago
@rotsekk hello
Please give me a few days time, I will try to determine the value of what you ask.
I do not work on the railway, but I would love to work as a driver:)
Thank you for your comments.
Chris
morfeusz120 1 year ago
@peettheengineer Hi Peter.
You have a lot of knowledge.
Do you work on the railway?
Traxx you drive?
morfeusz120 1 year ago
@morfeusz120 Yes, I do drive Traxx and many other locomotives, too.
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer please give me a few days time, determining exactly the greatest slope, the tonnage and write.
Big thanks for the enormity of valuable information;)
Chris
morfeusz120 1 year ago
@rotsekk The future AC Traxx will also have single axle control. Beside communalities with BR 186 there will be some really new features. Stay tuned, I'm not allowed to say more right now.
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer Hello.
As for the film Brutt it already was, however, exactly the 2033T on the hill in the wet longer likes to dance traxx tymbardziej that moved from the semaphore SBL. The largest slope in the area is 9 per mille. What is the maximum Brutt for it by the Traxx. 3650T documentation is for the maximum altitude to 8 per mille. The heaviest train as part of a tight left Lotus in May this year, was carried out Maxim, and the hook had gross 4998T .
morfeusz120 1 year ago
@morfeusz120 Thanks!
peettheengineer 1 year ago
@peettheengineer The single axle control is a big advantage I assume? The wag-9s here in India(You are probably familiar with them) have had horrendous adhesion issues. A few of the new ones have igbt kits with single axle control and the initial reports have been good.
wapman28 1 year ago
@wapman28 Yes, I'm familiar with WAG-9 since I made them. At that time it was not possible to make a single axle control for a six axle locomotive. The converters would have been too big to fit in the locomotive. Hope that IR refit all of them to the new IGBT design.
peettheengineer 1 year ago
Gratulacje! dobrze mieć jakaś górkę na oku. taki bombardier to zużywa chyba więcej pisku niż prądu.
analmageddon 1 year ago
@analmageddon hihihihihi oj sie usmialem
morfeusz120 1 year ago
Ekstra uchwycone piaskowanie. 5*****
73Pawel 1 year ago
Elegancki powolny przejazd Traxxa z fajnym Rp1 - kciuk w górę
Kolejomaniak86 1 year ago
No super ci się trafiło:)
Fajne***
Raiden054 1 year ago
Super wideo, elegancko uchwycone piaskowanie ;)
gibonstg 1 year ago
Awesome! Fantastic video my friend! Thumbs up!
DJGENEX71 1 year ago
@DJGENEX71 Thanks Gene
morfeusz120 1 year ago
5* za film+ul
kibic2332 1 year ago
Fajny ten odkurzacz….
wojti06 1 year ago
O w mordę... Jutro lecę po kamizele!Super
jaku770113 1 year ago
Ciekawy widok, ładny traxik i ekstra dźwięki !
Kciuk w górę.
Kolekcjoner205 1 year ago
Kiedyś u siebie widziałem coś podobnego ale ze Skodą 181 CTL.
Jaka jest najbliższa stacja gdzie nagrałeś ten film.
E6ACT 1 year ago
@E6ACT Tczew.Do tego wiaduktu masz no +/- z 50 min na piechotke
morfeusz120 1 year ago
Super Trax ekstra zadymił oraz spoko mechu zapodał ładne rp1 Fajne
wojtopkp 1 year ago