Ivo Pogorelich Plays Chopin Sonata No. 3/Op. 58 4th mvt.

[chairrest35]

Pogorelich is a self-serving idiot. Arrogant and totally unrespectful of the composer's markings.

[chhagedorn]

he plays like someone, who has a termin after playing (a dinner ?). Like: If he does not be urly, his wife ore another person wil be very angry. (Sorry, my Englisch is katastrophal)

[newFranzFerencLiszt]

wonderful! this needs a super ultra HD, not this creepy low quality...

someone has to find the video and post it in better quality

[Jasonpason1]

@newFranzFerencLiszt One could easily draw the conclusion that this was filmed some time ago hence the quality.

[newFranzFerencLiszt]

@Jasonpason1 you could do the same if you have a look to some arrau's 1970 videos, and maybe you'll notice they're much better - even they're black and white, just to make an example

[xxh3llfir3xx]

i like Rafal Blechacz' version better. this one is filled with too many mistakes, and tempo is too fast for my taste.

[ftballfrk]

there are many pianists in this world, but very few artists . . .

Pogorelich is an artist.

[dmitribron]

@ftballfrk agreed.

[TwelfthRoot2]

He has some gigantic hands

[anonymousQ45]

brilliant technique

[darkblueangel1956]

Quando era a contatto col pubblico con cui era in "armonia", Pogorelich interpretava a livelli esecutivi eccellenti ! Suono variegato e ricco di colore, gamma dinamica estesa, timbro potente e limpido al servizio di una linea stilistica originale, soprattutto nella melodia e in uno stile esecutivo-orchestrale così particolare !!! Dopo gli anni '80, e dopo la perdita della moglie e insegnante, ha avuto una sequela di alti e bassi, a volte preoccupanti (Rachmaninov op. 16) !!!

[carlhopkinson]

unbeltevably great

[twgirl1]

good 

[schmitty135]

Not up to par. Phrasing needs some work. You should hear my neighbor's kid play this ballade. 

[Chakiejan]

@schmitty135 STFU scrub....

[schmitty135]

@Chakiejan LOL. FU weenie boy. You don't know jack about music. Hahahahaha....you stupid asshat.

[OrangeSodaKing]

@schmitty135 Ballade? Uh...

[Ilperon]

@schmitty135

Would you like to point out where the phrasing needs work?

[marvinracer88]

@schmitty135 this ballade? you mean this prelude... LOL

[AkaMouTinn]

m8 when he starts playing the block chords he is out of tempo for no reason. rubato is possible inside phrases. So educate yourself and listen to katsaris who is already widely accepted as one of the 5 top pianists of 20th century

[SalQrazy]

Chopin wrote this piece for Pogorelich.

[kuckorama]

I'll never forget that last descending run in Prelude No. 24: those last A naturals at the bottom of the keyboard were like the end of the earth - he hit them with his whole hand! We waited backstage for him for about 30 minutes and when he came out he was still upset, getting right in to the limo without saying a word -flanked by a couple of extremely attractive women. Someone asked the piano tuner for the broken string and got it - what a great souvenir of a fantastic concert!

[kuckorama]

In San Francisco a quite a while ago, I saw Pogorelich perform the Liszt sonata, which was his big piece, and he broke a string and it really disturbed him. At intermission, he stormed off the stage very angrily. When he came back, he still looked ticked off. The second half was the entire Chopin preludes and it was devastating! It was if he improvised them right on the spot; the only other performance I've seen that was impressive was Horowitz in 1980. Amazing!

[wilsonwangvuisoon]

Ivo is one of a kind; his sense of timing, full-blown timbre and the mastery of subjecting the listeners to emotional anticipation of his continuous rendering of musical punctuations, placing them ever so appropriately throughout, making the whole piece coherent and magnetize us until repeated listening is deem justifiable. Listen to his bach too, it'll take your breath away.

[bicsc7]

@AkaMouTinn

I'm sure you knew exactly what Chopin intended in his music considering you've never heard him play, and in the fact that you think Katsaris is the authoritative figure on Chopin. But I'm certain you're a very scholarly figure.

Also, I can't help but agree with Cancrizans about "no continuity". Are we listening to the same thing?

[Cancrizans]

Everyone has their opinion...and I do like Katsaris' performance...and above most I hate this comparison garbage that goes on on Youtube. But I personally can't understand anyone who has listened to or played Chopin at any level coming up with your conclusion. What continuity? You mean the placid so called "technique" that has suffocated even some of the best pianists of today until they sound so consistent it feels like Chopin on Exlax? Ya no thanks I'll take Cortot...or Pogorelich...anyday.

[AkaMouTinn]

he has extremely good technique but the music has absolutely no continuity. The tempo stops and starts again in the worst places. The art of this music is not to play it as Gzerni practice. But to be able to give the music the unified form that it needs through the right timing. Check Katsaris version to see what chopin intended.

[dirtchild21]

@AkaMouTinn man, educate yourself. Chopin himself was a huge proponent of 'tempo rubato' technique, which is exactly what you are complaining about. the performer is permitted to 'steal time' from some passages and give it to others... to speed up and slow down just a little... in order to provide expression to the music. that is precisely what chopin would have intended.

[fastben2010]

special hands but good job

[maxhansendk]

Why does Ivo never play Chopins ballade No.1 ?

I know-But do "fanboys" know?

[madeirawanderer]

@maxhansendk I dont know, pse tell me why.

but Im not one of the "fanboys".

[Cancrizans]

@maxhansendk Please enlighten us. I know it has nothing to do with technique so please tell us why Pogorelich "doesn't play" the first Ballade? At any rate, I'm not sure why so many people seem to have antagonism towards Pogorelich...frankly I haven't heard many from his or certainly the new generation of pianists who even come close to him. He is one of the very, VERY few that play with the passion of the old masters. You may never hear it again so listen closely.

[Icarodefrancisco]

BRAVÍSSIMO....

[Icarodefrancisco]

VERY PRESTO? NO????????????

[afertyus1000]

@KV467 no neither do i the right hand is'nt too bad though

[gohanisbuckethead]

@afertyus1000 right hand isnt too bad ? thats all you have to say ? not too bad ? can you please listen the runs in 1:20 - 1:30 and say that again ?

[afertyus1000]

@gohanisbuckethead haha just giving an inept comment to the other inept comment by KV467

[fontapiano]

lipatti's performance is the best...... but this is not so bad......is the only comparable to lipatti's.........this is pogolelich!!

[kasyapa]

incredible scales.

[noneofyourbizzness]

The BEST.. hands down!!

[fredericfranc]

This may be the way to handle the weirdness of this movement, by turning all into a continuous flow of sonority, disguise the works, the mechanics. The relentless, ferocious right hand action is made clear in a video like this. The right hand genius strikes again.

[TwelfthRoot2]

I wonder who would win in a thumb war, Pogorelich or Rachmaninov? I bet Rach could take him in a best of five.

[ErminTkalec]

bravoooo!!!!!!

[KearneyPiano]

that is the most genius playing i have ever heard.

[Hafniensis]

Beautiful

[dramf888]

this is a genius playing!

[AllegroDemolish]

gosh, his hands are so effing big.

[marcinmain]

This movement is a great achievement. And well interpreted as well.

[donaldcallen]

Pogorelich was (and, I hope, is) a fabulous technician and a very interesting musician. But I find this a bit too fast (Presto *non tanto*) and matter-of-fact. It almost sounds like a fantastically-well-played finger exercise. And it's not absolutely clean in the difficult last two pages leading to the coda. I'm not as thrilled by this performance as some others. I prefer Lipatti, Cortot, Bolet, and Rubinstein in this music.

[yuehchopin]

big hand, gut!

[mdoub]

his left hand at 3:57!!!!

[4785689]

@mdoub 4:06

[mdoub]

fabulous performance.

did anyone catch the lady doing the backstep at the end? that was quite flawless as well

[jefftam1234]

damn his hands are freaking huge

saw him in Chicago couple years back

it was an interesting experience, really kick ass Liszt (some T. Etudes), and Islamey

and a 45 mins long Op.111 Beethoven sonata.......

[chislehurstbat]

A truly great pianist. Saw him live in Stuttgart in 1995, a wonderful eveing. He played "The Tempest" (Sturmsonate), Beethoven and it was heavenly. He played Chopin as an encore and someone started clapping into a pause and Pogorelich just gave a little laughter and continued playing. He seemed a really nice bloke too.

[Robotman42]

Wow!

[kempff95]

truely artist !

[Rani9000]

nothing wrong mate

[callenishss]

age 25 here

[chacoteris]

Stupendous! Have you heard Cyprien Katsaris in this sonata? He is quite stunning, besides being a show himself.

[berlinzerberus]

...nobody plays this mouvement like him.....tremendous!

[flouz2]

@berlinzerberus euh...kissin without a doubt !!!

[berlinzerberus]

..not at all!

Ivo is much much better than Kissiin in Chopin No.3, technically, his musical expression is overwhelming, a true character who knows his stuff precisely, subjecting the whole movement to his rule.

tremendously played!

[mdoub]

it;s so FREAKING AMAZING

[Musicforever3000]

Great ! Great ! Great !

[kajohada]

...how beautiful his hands and how powerful they are able to play,unbelievable,very amazing! :))

[mdoub]

i don't know if chopin could imagine his own music played so beautifully...

[enantiodrom]

Among the best pianists between the XX and XXI centuries.

[Elicgt]

Rafal Blechacz interpreting this much better.

[MissChopin]

I don't agree. I think Pogorelich expresses Chopin better than Blechacz. However, I think they are both great pianists ;-)

[Elicgt]

yes they both are great, and everyone has their own taste :)

[jerzybuzek]

You are wrong. Pogorelich is a genius! These are two other dimensions.!

[pianotonton]

@jerzybuzek Not a genius, juste a great pianist !

[flamingemuemu]

strong hands eh - amazing

[randomguy10]

the technique is perfect and the touches are so beautiful, but he plays it like a standalone etude - the pace is too quick and it loses a bit of the impact

[MissChopin]

Pogo the best 4ever...I'd like to play Chopin as well as him...;-)

[penguinshin]

huge hands, makes his technique perfect

[zockerflo]

I love it

[afertyus1000]

yes i prefer it to katsaris but i would'nt mind being able to play like either!

[sousique]

ŻYCZENIE (SE PER MIRACOLO) F.Chopin

[NickoVolodya]

une inetrprétation plus rapide que celle de Bolet, qui est une référence. Mais Pogorelich, avec son tempo endiablé donne un caractère inquiétant, voire stressant à cette pièce magnifique de Chopin. De beaux conatrastes, une technique sans faille, une expressivité exacerbée. Bref, nous avons affaire ici à une performance d'anthologie !!!!

[jostvandyke2007]

He totally arsed up at 3.46 for 4 bars, he must be tired.

[jaywbe]

fucking amazingly talented musician. i don't really like his concert manners though. he did a remarkable performance, and the applause was huge, and he just trailed off! didn't even let the stewardess (whoever she was) give him his flowers properly!

[cross147]

he's brilliant...i love his interpretation of this piece. He is propably one of the best pianist in the world!!!!!!

[bisbigliandosciolto]

Its not what you've got, its what you do with it/them (as they say)

[humanbehaviours]

you know what they say of guys with big hands?

:P

[Scottondanet]

Big gloves?

[romotchka]

Pogorelich is in so close relationship to this repertoire.... Effortless finale, romantic and yet no manierism, just the incredible feeling of mastery and evidence. Especially when compared to what do other renowned super-virtuosos (like Hamelin) in this movement.

[Rickyr389]

amazing hands, technique and performance!!! it's great, he makes it easy

[Scottondanet]

Has anyone else noticed the size of his bloody hands?!

If he wasn't to be a pianist his job would be just to hold large quantities of fruit or something.

Bloody talented bloke.

[kajohada]

yea,his hand re gorgeous,but he can handle them on the piano,thats the difference! LOL

[alceste66]

I'm really surprise..

[kajohada]

....one of the best pianist of our time,better than pollini,great personality.he plays the chopin sonata really great!

[alceste66]

he isn't always the best ( cfr english suite ) anyway here he's great!!

[amirmot]

better than many , now he declined but when he was at top he was one of the bests!

he s music was so better than pollini ,kissin,and many others.

[jmealonso]

I'm overwhelmed........... wow! Absolutley effortless, elegant and passionate. i played this sonata many years ago and could barely make it to the end of the last movement without being completely exhausted. this is unbelievable!

[jvmalfi]

very nice

[kimnaturegirl]

let's talk about size guys.... having big hands is a huge advantage being a pianist..... BUT, it's not always you know, Rachmaninov is well know for being able to stretch a 12th, but he also said it was hard for him to play rapid octaves as a result, you can imagine the problem...those of us that have octave sized hands should remember at least occasionally, we have something over the big guys!

[kungfool7]

he has MASSIVE Rachmaninov hands =O !!!!

[organman52]

What a difference between this and that psychozoid rendition by Mr. Katsaris. Maestro Pogorelich doesn't exhibit any distracting extraneous physical gestures. He adheres to the score. He understands the music completely. I don't think it's too fast - he plays in a true duple framework, which is what 6/8 meter is. His musicianship is wonderful. He is poised and he reveres the composer. A great deal can be learned from this man's playing. The only to be learned from Katsaris is how NOT to play.

[kungfool7]

I dont think its fair to say that so and so is better than so and so. I have a recoring of Rubenstein playing this sonata and I think it sounds boring as hell (I am NOT saying he is bad, I LOVE the vast majority of his recordings).Everyone (should) play his or her own unique way, and if Mr.Katsaris wants to play a "psychozoid rendition" of it then so be it. I found Katsaris' playing to be very interesting and enjoyable.

[organman52]

You say 'his or her own way'. But what about CHOPIN's 'WAY'? Why does the world at large believe that a Chopin Sonata [or any masterpiece] can be played dozens of 'ways'? I am in a tiny minority who believes that EVERYTHING required to play a masterpiece is already right there on the score. Do you honestly think that Chopin would tolerate all of these different 'interpretations' that we hear today, facial contortions and all? Chopin would be APPALLED if he were to hear the likes of katsaris.

[kungfool7]

Absolutely NO ONE knows EXACTLY how Chopin would have wanted his pieces to be played, people can only guess. If everyone played one way then there would hardly be any point for having too many prefessional pianists in the world because everyone would just play the same anyway (Just for the record I think Mr.Pogorelich played this piece very very well indeed)

[xiangyik]

I totally agree with you. Let's just ignore people like organman52.

[pricelesskween91]

How would YOU know?

[organman52]

Good question. And you would never understand the answer, as simple as it is.

[voolare]

organman52; music interpretation is an art, not a mere transformation in sound of the printed page. According to you a piece should be played the same way for hundreds of years. It would mean the death of classical music interpretation! t's like saying that painters should only depict reality and realistically!

No thanks.. The score is the starting point; otherwise let's just let the computers read the score and play!

[organman52]

Unfortunately, you have no idea what you're talking about.

[voolare]

If you want to debate seriously over this, you're very welcome; but don't dismiss in such an arrogant way somebody who most likely read and played more than you!

[organman52]

That's right - COMPARE yourself to me with 'most likely'. What is your basis for this absurd contention?

I don't debate with sheople, period.

[thunder1909]

I agree very much with you.

[thunder1909]

Once again your comments DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE. If you everything was there on the score, then why can't a talented 13 or 14 year old play it like somebody experienced? The reason is, because eveything IS NOT on the score, many things have to come from inside you. Feeling and emotion can't be put on the score. And the many interpretations that ARE out there can't be judged. Many of them are very professionally interpreted, and have a originality.

And you have no idea how Chopin would feel.

[organman52]

Fine. There is absolutely no point in discussing anything with you. So, let's just leave it at this - you're right about everything.

[thunder1909]

organman52,

I think you are starting to believe me, because if you can't even come up with a logical argument, you're either being really annoying and saying stupid things, or have no clue what you're talking about. And please leave it at that, I want to save you further humiliation and embarassment. By the way, I agree with you that this interpretation of the Chopin sonata is one of the best.

[organman52]

You're dreaming if you think I agree with you. I think it is YOU that is intrigued by MY statements and are starting to believe them. As for a 'logical argument' - MY logical can't possibly coincide with yours. So again, let's just leave it at that. Most people in my position [exchanging thoughts with you] will declare their entire credentials. That is not my style, but if you only knew what my credentials are, you might be whistling a different tune.

[thunder1909]

I don't care if you were CHOPIN HIMSELF, or anybody else for that matter. I don't care about your credentials, and they do not influence my opinion. No matter who you were, or are, I would say that I disagree with you period.

[organman52]

I never asked you to be interested in my credentials. I was only mentioning that issue because everyone on youtube is always announcing their credentials - AS IF THAT IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN SOMETHING. This is exactly why I don't tell anyone who or what I am. It's called anonymity.

As far as credentials are concerned, I know Ph.D.'s who know LESS THAN NOTHING about compositional technique or structure, not to mention the WORST ears imaginable. And they are called 'doctor'. What a crock.

[thunder1909]

Ehh, I doubt that a Ph.D. would know less than nothing, but I won't argue, because I've had thesame experiences with other things (where a supposedly qualified master didn't know bull).

[Lemonizm]

Pfft, scientologists...

[AngelinaTaylor]

You make an interesting point, but if it were really true, why would people bother having masterclasses and lessons? If everything was in the score, surely we can learn by ourselves. You will hear no two pianists play the same exact way, and that's because we're not robots.

[brozors]

his fast tempo just eliminates the wonderfully musical qualities of this movement. it's a pity, really.

[ytpiano7]

Maybe is not exactly that,. Are versions which are as fast as this, or even more, but he really plays this movement very poor and most metronomically. almost not nuances, etc. Loook at his left hand when he play the tremolos so stiff. Well many people love him. I think he has very intereting things but very ugly too. The worst is his weird technique.

ytpiano7

[HaparukuU]

I am assuming his technique is better than yours!

[xiangyik]

You do not have to be better than the pianist to criticise a pianist. If that were true there would be no critics in the world.

[Hiddejan]

that guy has some big hands

[stacysucksviacom]

He plays here just like the Conservatory trained pedant that he really is when you get beneath the ridiculous image he cultivated with the press. DG, the most cynical of recording labels, certainly was complicit in that.

He's taking getting on stage and making an ass of himself lately playing whatever and however he wants. Just as bad in its own way as this de facto MIDI file.

[stacysucksviacom]

He HAS TAKEN TO getting on stage and making an ass of himself lately, playing whatever and however he wants. Just as bad in its own way as this de facto MIDI file.

[Ernesto7608]

Ah... so much beauty is left out in this race to the finish line... Of course, it must be that the time scale in his brain is set much faster than in normal mortals, and the speed he is playing at is for him the right tempo. If my brain were like that, I would enjoy his performance too.

[donaldcallen]

This is a mountain of a piece, extremely difficult technically and musically. There are some things I would do differently if I played the instrument as well as Pogorelich, which few do, but there's no denying his tremendous pianism. For people who love this piece, I recommend hearing the Cortot recording, and his student, Dinu Lipatti, as well. Rubinstein made a great recording, too. I wish Rachmaninoff had recorded it; his recording of the 2nd Sonata (Bb-minor) is unsurpassed in my opinion.

[jacek9291]

Right guys... saying "...look like Chopin's hands..." referred to Chopin's friends' remarks that were documented in 19th century. No point calling the "174 year old neighbours". Also, I did see the casts of Chopin's hands in Szafarnia, Poland (where he stayed for summer holidays in his youth).

[transfobby]

Croatians rule!

[jacek9291]

Some say his hands look like Chopin's hands on the 'board. Amazing. Almost freaky. Must say he toned down a lot since his Chopin Piano Competion in 1980. Much more mature and brilliant performance, though. His Chopin's scherzi are magnificent!

[stacysucksviacom]

My 174 year-old neighbor is one of those people who has seen both Chopin's and Pogo's hands and he assures me they look similar.

[SalQrazy]

I've seen Chopin's hands, a casting of them, on widipedia at least..

[isaacc93]

<_< dats not possible,the longest living man is 116....

[HaparukuU]

No, really???

[HaparukuU]

It's important not to have too many "smokes" when your young...

[barbarin123]

AMAZING!!! I had almost forgotten about Ivo as his movements have been mysterious of late to say the least... Those hands!

[orpheus63]

perhaps the best chopin player of all times

[Mumum2]

Wow that's the quickest version I've sen yet.

[prongated]

Hahaha time-wise, this is as fast as Argerich's DG recording. This (and the whole recital) is quite legendary...

[ralkramralkram]

Pogorelich is a has been, fat, bald, and not good on the piano anymore.

[kasyapa]

you seem to be pasting that a lot around youtube.

[ralkramralkram]

Yes, I guess I have nothing better to do.

[kasyapa]

tell me what you have against pogo? i'm not especially a fan - i'm mainly curious.

[ralkramralkram]

I don't have anything against him. In fact, I used to worship his playing, especially his first recording of Ravel's Gaspard and Prokofiev's 6th in the early 80's. I've heard that he has sort of gone off the deep end with his interpretations and know someone who was at a masterclass where Pogo said Allegro is "not fast".

[VooBag]

hm okay.... you didn't understaand

"Pogo said Allegro is 'not fast'"

-> it is not 'fast'

Ofcourse Allegro is not "FAST", it's happy, joyful... It has to do with the character, not with the tempo in the first place.

But who will believe you that Pogo said that Allegro is the opposite of fast. ;)

[splendinj]

Great Ivo!

[tawtsai]

True Genius.

[cocco31]

oh my... look at his fingers moving!!! excellent...

[fanofep]

I've watched every part of this recital now, and what can one say? Nothing, except just witness this miracle! Did anyone else attend his royal festival hall all-chopin recital in '98 (or '99)? Critics said he distorded Chopin. Not only did he do that, he also distorted the idea of piano playing and dissolved the sense of time and gravity. I'll never be the same again, thank God! Neither will Chopin...

[mikeinkc]

He has the largest hands for a pianist I have ever seen! Great technique..makes it seem so simple..that's true artistry.

[ohtry]

i get what you mean. he plays fast too. you should see horowitz play. he plays his octaves so fast just to see the notes properly you have to play it in slow slow motion. pogo i awesome. wonder how he does his hair though. i was searching around for some more chopan and pogo and i came across a vid of pogo playing the 3rd mov of the 3rd sonata. every hair was verticle. ???

[KakaAdam]

get la

[lovesGenet]

we r lucky for japan t.v. since rest of world seems n to care .Lie early soviet t.v. we r indebted .YIPPPPEEEE

[sumcrzymofo]

Hi! Thank you soooooo much for uploading the other 3 mvts! It brings me great happiness to watch some awesome rare footage of my fav pianist! :-)

[parule]

well playing!!!