thats cool, now i know who he is, i was cleaning out my friends garage and it had so much junk, but i did find a autograph photo of this guy its cool looking, i think ill sell it
i do like his music, my friend is now 99 and her dotter is 65 and she told me to put every thing in the trash but i did not do that i got me some marlon brando and gene Krupa
your trippin if you think any rock drummer can out drum a jazz drummer old school or not.....the best drummer in the world (neil) will tell ya that himself
A reasonable explanation, though other videos of similar vintage seem much less out of synch. I see there's been quite a lot of discussion over this since my ridiculous posting eight months ago.
I just watched the clip, seemed fine to me. Krupa played fast anyway. Try watching Pert live, his hands move so fast, seems like the drum makes the sound but it is like you never see him hit it. Well, least that was back in the day when I saw Rush on the Power Windows tour. If you never seen Rush, man, I hate to say it, but you truly missed out. I guess the same could be said for John Bonham and Steve Smith of Journey.
@chaser22081 This is an original movie clip, I had nothing to do with the filming or recording of anything. The film is posted in its exact original format. I am curious as I don't see any of this seriously out of sync. When he makes the two drum strikes at 0.19 the sound is exactly in sync with the picture. What do you see and hear at 019? When he makes the two strikes on the drum is the sound way behind the picture or before. It's right on target on my end,.
My goodness, people.....The solution seems pretty obvious. The video and audio are two different takes. They did the video, which either was silent or sounded horrible, so they had to have Gene play a new audio recording to dub over the video. Gene played a DIFFERENT SOLO, although with many of the same licks in the right spots in post, so the dubbing looks completely messed up with a few accuracies thrown in. Watch, listen, understand, THINK.
@chaser22081 Type in big sid catlett and watch more of the movie clip with them talking, especially at the end. The film appears to be out of sync, but not much. When they talk at the end it is a little out of sync to me. Possibly whoever ran the film through the projector had too much or too little film in the film gate. It has to be just so, or this happens.
@chaser22081 from the 20's-early 60's a lot of drummers played to pre-recorded tracks. tracks they themselves recorded...in a studio. the microphones using for filming movies and TV shows weren't able to handle the recording of drums very well.
Hey, thanks for your response and for being so cool about this. I realize only today that you could have thought I was talking about you....which I wasn't. I've seen the clip a few times and could never understand why things were so out of synch. Do I understand you correctly that the original video was out of synch, so there's nothing that can be done about it now?
@Scrayfish0 HI Scrayfish0 I tried watching this a few times before I answered you, and at first I thought it might be, and then again it looks like whenever he hits the drums the sound matches the hit from the drum stick, so I really don't know. It is a complete movie clip I did not add the sound later, so it is what it is. Some youtube uploads get out of sync, and I don't know if all youtube viewers see it, or if it effects just some. They have some troubleshooting info for that problem.
@Scrayfish0 If the video is severely out of sync when you watch it, it might be out of sync on your end, and something I can't see on my end. It is pretty much in sync when I watch it . I kept watching it over & over a few times trying to find something really out of sync, but when he hits the drum with the drum stick the sound matches. Some uploaders have complained about their videos out of sync after uploading, but I haven't had that problem so far, and I can't see it in this one.
@Scrayfish0 It's not just the syncing. The original video wouldn't have recorded a decent sound so Gene would have had to record another solo on top of this one. Being the improvisor he is, he probably didn't remember the solo exactly so a lot of licks got left out or miss placed. So you put the two together you have Gene Krupa solo 1 in video and solo 2 in audio, somewhat synced only because Gene probably watched the movie and played along, picking up licks along the way.
@Scrayfish0 this is great stuff Mr. Gillis, great stuff. Say, realize this is an old conversation, but if I may interject, could it be possible that Mr. Krupa is drumming faster than the frame rate? So you'd here the sound of the multipule drub hits but not actually see them, hence, it gives the illusion that it's out of synch when it isn't? I mean drum sticks bounce pretty fast when you do it propper, you hear em, but does the camera pick em up?
@Scrayfish0 this is the result of the original film, not the video encoder. Gene and Sid Catlett (who is seen in the entire scene) don't really attempt to "drumsync" to the soundtrack.
thats cool, now i know who he is, i was cleaning out my friends garage and it had so much junk, but i did find a autograph photo of this guy its cool looking, i think ill sell it
i do like his music, my friend is now 99 and her dotter is 65 and she told me to put every thing in the trash but i did not do that i got me some marlon brando and gene Krupa
mrkatsumi1000 1 day ago
HE IS MY TEACHER
RENIERHS 6 days ago
@metalhead326 is exactly right. He is miming to pre-recorded audio, and didn't play the same thing
NerfLad 2 months ago
your trippin if you think any rock drummer can out drum a jazz drummer old school or not.....the best drummer in the world (neil) will tell ya that himself
marbleheadband 2 months ago
looks fucking fake travis barker can eat theise vintege dude 4 breakfest
4against1 2 months ago
@4against1 your a prick. Fake lol.Travis barker is utter shite compared to real drummers..
nastymonsters2 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos 7
@nastymonsters2 don't feed the trolls dude
masterbeat04 2 months ago
A reasonable explanation, though other videos of similar vintage seem much less out of synch. I see there's been quite a lot of discussion over this since my ridiculous posting eight months ago.
Scrayfish0 3 months ago
Keith Moon of the 1940s
consul1957 3 months ago
I just watched the clip, seemed fine to me. Krupa played fast anyway. Try watching Pert live, his hands move so fast, seems like the drum makes the sound but it is like you never see him hit it. Well, least that was back in the day when I saw Rush on the Power Windows tour. If you never seen Rush, man, I hate to say it, but you truly missed out. I guess the same could be said for John Bonham and Steve Smith of Journey.
nawdew 5 months ago
are u sure u didnt put the right music on? mines is horribly outa snyc
chaser22081 11 months ago
@chaser22081 This is an original movie clip, I had nothing to do with the filming or recording of anything. The film is posted in its exact original format. I am curious as I don't see any of this seriously out of sync. When he makes the two drum strikes at 0.19 the sound is exactly in sync with the picture. What do you see and hear at 019? When he makes the two strikes on the drum is the sound way behind the picture or before. It's right on target on my end,.
maynardcat 11 months ago
@maynardcat It is out of sync for me.
kielwhitt10 3 months ago
My goodness, people.....The solution seems pretty obvious. The video and audio are two different takes. They did the video, which either was silent or sounded horrible, so they had to have Gene play a new audio recording to dub over the video. Gene played a DIFFERENT SOLO, although with many of the same licks in the right spots in post, so the dubbing looks completely messed up with a few accuracies thrown in. Watch, listen, understand, THINK.
garrettmillerdrums 3 months ago
@maynardcat showing perfectly in sync here.
TheGoogootz 1 day ago
@TheGoogootz I never could see the out of sync some complained about.
maynardcat 1 day ago
@chaser22081 Type in big sid catlett and watch more of the movie clip with them talking, especially at the end. The film appears to be out of sync, but not much. When they talk at the end it is a little out of sync to me. Possibly whoever ran the film through the projector had too much or too little film in the film gate. It has to be just so, or this happens.
maynardcat 11 months ago
@chaser22081 from the 20's-early 60's a lot of drummers played to pre-recorded tracks. tracks they themselves recorded...in a studio. the microphones using for filming movies and TV shows weren't able to handle the recording of drums very well.
metalhead326 2 months ago
I think I have this on a compilation DVD at home and it's always the same thing. Thanks.
Scrayfish0 11 months ago
Hey, thanks for your response and for being so cool about this. I realize only today that you could have thought I was talking about you....which I wasn't. I've seen the clip a few times and could never understand why things were so out of synch. Do I understand you correctly that the original video was out of synch, so there's nothing that can be done about it now?
Scrayfish0 11 months ago
@Scrayfish0 HI Scrayfish0 I tried watching this a few times before I answered you, and at first I thought it might be, and then again it looks like whenever he hits the drums the sound matches the hit from the drum stick, so I really don't know. It is a complete movie clip I did not add the sound later, so it is what it is. Some youtube uploads get out of sync, and I don't know if all youtube viewers see it, or if it effects just some. They have some troubleshooting info for that problem.
maynardcat 11 months ago
@Scrayfish0 If the video is severely out of sync when you watch it, it might be out of sync on your end, and something I can't see on my end. It is pretty much in sync when I watch it . I kept watching it over & over a few times trying to find something really out of sync, but when he hits the drum with the drum stick the sound matches. Some uploaders have complained about their videos out of sync after uploading, but I haven't had that problem so far, and I can't see it in this one.
maynardcat 11 months ago
@Scrayfish0 It's not just the syncing. The original video wouldn't have recorded a decent sound so Gene would have had to record another solo on top of this one. Being the improvisor he is, he probably didn't remember the solo exactly so a lot of licks got left out or miss placed. So you put the two together you have Gene Krupa solo 1 in video and solo 2 in audio, somewhat synced only because Gene probably watched the movie and played along, picking up licks along the way.
garrettmillerdrums 3 months ago
@Scrayfish0 this is great stuff Mr. Gillis, great stuff. Say, realize this is an old conversation, but if I may interject, could it be possible that Mr. Krupa is drumming faster than the frame rate? So you'd here the sound of the multipule drub hits but not actually see them, hence, it gives the illusion that it's out of synch when it isn't? I mean drum sticks bounce pretty fast when you do it propper, you hear em, but does the camera pick em up?
TMundohere 2 months ago
If only the sound and video matched. Would the lazy a**h*** responsible for the dissemination of this video please do something about this?!!!!!
Scrayfish0 11 months ago
@Scrayfish0 this is the result of the original film, not the video encoder. Gene and Sid Catlett (who is seen in the entire scene) don't really attempt to "drumsync" to the soundtrack.
drumuitar 11 months ago
Go Gene go Love this guy used to play drums and studied his style nice video
funfrankie59 1 year ago
He was really something... I don't think there's been another quite like him!
75capriceconvertible 1 year ago
Right on!
From the insanely hard-to-find flick "Boy! What a girl!" - had to damn near go black market to get this flick myself back in 1998. :)
SwingMan1937 1 year ago