Xubuntu 11.04 Review / Thoughts

[mattehFLCL]

im surprised you didn't say zed ubuntu

[ajw10800]

what is the point of doing a 'review' if you don't know the first thing about the product - just clicking through the interface and describing what you see is not a review

[Linux4UnMe]

@ajw10800

then please teach me how to make ultimate reviews oh wise one

[ajw10800]

@Linux4UnMe Well - maybe knowing a little about the product you're reviewing? Giving some specific details? Why someone would use it? What alternatives are there? What makes this better/worse? All the time being entertaining while doing so.

How's that that for a start?

[BelaFleckFan]

@ajw10800 "a little about the product" "Giving some specific details" "Why someone would use it" "What makes this better/worse" "All the time being entertaining"

I think you've just described all the videos Linux4UnMe has posted on YouTube.

[Linux4UnMe]

@ajw10800

nar. I like doing shit reviews just to annoy people like you....

[Hi675445]

this look like luinex mini

[farturas81]

hi, i'm very basic on computer stuff, is this good to run on a 2 year old laptop wich is running VERY slow on windows 7?? thanks

[Linux4UnMe]

@farturas81

it would be fast, yes

[Live4TheGame1]

@farturas81 If it's a 32 bit laptop, I recommend checking out Zorin OS Lite - it's an LXDE environment designed to be lightweight, and fast. It can mimic the look of Windows 2000 or Mac OSX.

[mkdalynn]

@farturas81 You may want to look into Lubuntu as well. It is very similar to this and is lighter on your system. 

[TylerKG123]

I'm watching this using Xubuntu. :D

[animefreak873]

@TylerKG123 could you help me im having trouble installing it!!

[TylerKG123]

@animefreak873 Sure. First, what is your current operating system? Is it Mac or Windows? Are you using Wubi Installer? Oh, and is it a very old computer?

[animefreak873]

@TylerKG123  lol very new.windows 64 bit windows 7 and im using a live cd.Btw im a fan of code lyoko as well cant wait till the new season comes =)

[TylerKG123]

@animefreak873 There could be something wrong with the installer file on the CD...when you put the CD in it should say "Scan CD" Scan it.

If that doesn't work go to Google and type in Wubi. When Wubi loads it will show options. The default is Ubuntu, uncheck that and click Xubuntu. You should be good then.

I'm a 13 year old kid x3

[animefreak873]

@TylerKG123 thanks i will try it.Btw im 14 =)

[pixiemotion]

huh, I thought Dream Linux looked really ugly … but then I don't like the glossy look …

[Grecza89]

i switched from Windows to Ubuntu when 9.10 Karmic Koala came out and i loved and still love that release, but since it's no longer supported for some time already i've decided to try the new Unity, cuz it looked really nice but in my point of view they just found out how to make a simple thing complicated, i haven't been using ubuntu that long but in my opinion the Unity is in the ease of use term step back, no more Ubuntu, welcome Xubuntu

[Linux4UnMe]

@Grecza89

yeah alot of people feel the same way and go for xfce or kde ;)

[Grecza89]

@Linux4UnMe i have tried Xubuntu yesterday and i was really suprised by the release... it's intuitive, easy to use, clear and meanwhile still nice to look at, i was hesitating about installing the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but Xubuntu won :)

[Linux4UnMe]

@Grecza89

nice :)

[TylerKG123]

@Linux4UnMe How did you record this?

[Linux4UnMe]

@TylerKG123

ffmpeg. may make a new video on how to do it

[Preseka666]

@Grecza89 now you know that you can install ubuntu and later ju7st add xface and kde desktop managers?

[franerg]

Now that Ubuntu has Unity, Xubuntu is the best!

[Linux4UnMe]

@franerg

not in my mind :)

[TheComputerSage]

@franerg I could agree with that. I hate Unity. If 12.04 still has Unity, I'm moving to either Xubuntu or Linux Mint.

[Linux4UnMe]

@TheComputerSage

well you might aswell move now then, cause Unity aint going away lol :)

[TheComputerSage]

@Linux4UnMe That's true. I'm going to wait until 12.04 comes out before I install Linux Mint.

[andreakpan]

I'm thinking if I should change Ubuntu to Xubuntu because I hate both Unity & Gnome 3!

Thanks for your video!

[Linux4UnMe]

@andreakpan

haha yeah don't blame ya.... I am enjoying E17 and Kde at the moment.... ;)

[snatale1]

@andreakpan Unity IS Gnome 3. Why would you change when you could just install XFCE?

[lkuliashvili]

what will be battery life on my asus eee pc if i'll install it? as i know linux products has no long battery lifes :(

[metabog]

Exfsss.

[Linux4UnMe]

@metabog

Yes Please

[sysadmatt]

In case you were wondering (like if no one told you) it's called "Gigolo" because it will mount anything ;)

Nice reviews mate

[Linux4UnMe]

@sysadmatt

LoL I like it :D

[lerouxv1]

The dock is just a panel with launcher icons.

[miasmablk]

lol your dream occupation hey?

[caseygtr]

Lubuntu doesn't have the software center because Lubuntu isn't an official Canonical Ubuntu OS.

[Linux4UnMe]

@caseygtr

neither is Debian but they still have it on the DVD install... ;)

[Linux4UnMe]

@caseygtr

oh, and Yes it is... Lubuntu is official

[Linux4UnMe]

@Linux4UnMe

since May

[ytuser13082011]

I ten to use LTS versions only, as the other ones seem to be quite unstable/untested/sometimes weird.

[Linux4UnMe]

@ytuser13082011

true dat

[maw88ify]

I like GNOME2 . I don't really like GNOME3, KDE, Unity , LXDE, XFCE, or any other Desktop environment . Sad they are killing GNOME2 :( Linus Torvalds says Gnome 3 is an "Unholy mess." Funny thing is I think GNOME3 is better than Unity .

[Linux4UnMe]

@maw88ify

Gnome 2 will not be killed.... it has been forked and is now called "Mate Desktop" ;)

I like gnome 3 but they got a while to go yet before they win me over :O same with Unity

[Linux4UnMe]

@Kerosenelight

I havn't heard that.... dunno

[joeipt10]

Yeah.. How DO you pronounce it? I think it has the most pronunciations of any distro.

[ProfessionalGam3rz]

How do you activate the UNIX shit it asked me to install drivers for?

[Linux4UnMe]

@ProfessionalGam3rz

more precise?

[ProfessionalGam3rz]

@Linux4UnMe Well it said I need to install video drivers to enjoy all Unix has to offer, and I have but I see no difference. Hehe I fucked up my PC so hard, get this, after installing Xubuntu my Vista started working badly, so i decided to re install it, although my disk is not boot, so i started booting from what Vista still could run but it got stuck on 20% so I canceled it and after canceling I manually closed PC with a button, and now it asks for a key which I don't have any solution please?

[LTS1287]

@ProfessionalGam3rz: The thing about dual-booting with Windows and Linux is that Windows will wipe out the Linux bootloader. The way I go about dual-booting is to install Windows first and then install Linux. The Linux bootloader overwrites the MBR and the windows installation is (usually) detected by GRUB (bootloader). If you need anymore help feel free to message me. Hope this helps.

[Ferrari512codalunga]

@LTS1287 so what u r saying is that if that if Windows is installed first and then u install linux GRUB will take over the Master Boot Record right? And if you install linux first and then Windows the MBR takes over GRUB right?

[LTS1287]

@Ferrari512codalunga: Basically, yes. Whichever OS installs last will be the last to write to the MBR. You can, however, continue using the windows bootloader to boot up linux. You don't have to use GRUB. I would recommend using GRUB, though.

[LTS1287]

@Ferrari512codalunga: That's exactly right. Remember that dual booting isn't the only option. You have the option of running one or the other in a virtual machine. You will see performance hits, though.

[warmotor]

We always called it shoo-buntu.

[chillipeanuts]

dude, what office software works for Ubuntu? Open Office or some such? Thanks bro.

[Linux4UnMe]

@chillipeanuts

OpenOffice or LibreOffice are the most used

[chillipeanuts]

@Linux4UnMe Both have versions adapted for Linux?

[Linux4UnMe]

@chillipeanuts

ofcoarse... They are both Open Source Software

[vladakisa]

dalbaiog ii autorul!

[ForeverWiked]

Just so you folks no, DO NOT install XFCE on Ubuntu. Or anything on ubuntu. Just do the actually xubuntu install. Otherwise you'll have glitches out the ass.

Anyway I'm gonna switch to Xubuntu next LTS release, mainly because Gnome 3(both unity and shell) are just shitty. Yes they are 'good' and fast and I wouldnt mind having them installed along side something else, but having them forced on us is a major turn off for me as I like classic desktops. XFCE is closest to gnome 2 so I picked it

[MrStephen182]

@ForeverWiked

I am switching to because Ubuntu are forcing Unity on its uses. I was a Ubuntu user for 4 years and last two stable releases were spot on but now they just want to create something that looks likes a Phone/tablet OS and don't even get me started on that dock on the left hand side they are forcing on us users. I think Unity is going to backfire on them. Xubuntu looks good and yes Gnome 2 rocked.

[walter0bz]

@MrStephen182

unity has the right idea with the vertical screenspace saving , layout designed around widescreen monitors. The way it handles maximize with indicator,title and menubar integrated is brilliant .

the dock concept started on the side (NeXT). its' the rightful place. I have a Mac and have done the same. on the mac the've made a seperate mode for fullscreen apps, but the efficient maximize means you get similar benefit across all programs.

having said that i like XFCE too :) (light)

[MrStephen182]

@walter0bz

What if your one of the people who does not want a dock on their OS. Not everything has to look like Apples OS.

[walter0bz]

@MrStephen182 - agree there, i frequently use a lighter setup on slow machines for linux, e.g fluxbox, so i'll aree with you it should be possible to toggle the dock. And actually I'm going back to the old taskbar +desktop thumbnails idea too. I think Unity's defaults are still good, he user who wants something more specific can easily move to it.

[megalodonNL]

@MrStephen182

But you can turn that Unity stuff off in your session settings and make it look like Classic Ubuntu.

[MrStephen182]

@megalodonNL I know but it will not be there forever As Ubuntu have said soon they will only be using Unity.

[megalodonNL]

@MrStephen182

Ah OK, I didn't know that. I'm using PClinuxOS LXDE at the moment. I only briefly tried Ubuntu 10.04, 11.04 and 11.10. I'm totally new in the world of Linux, but I did knew about the session change :)

[LlednarWerdna]

i am attempting to put this on a old computer that i have that had windows 95 on it and it woulnt boot a live cd (duh) and i am attempting to install it with the alternate installer, idk if it will work it only has 64MB of RAM, and a 500MHz cpu

[Linux4UnMe]

@LlednarWerdna

ahwell... let us know how it goes

[KMSalex]

@LlednarWerdna if it does boot at all it will run like shit, go with lubuntu, its still not going to be great but i had it running on a win 98 era laptop. a slower P III but more ram, idealed about 70-80mb ram so you'll be hitting the swap to do anything.

[LongDistanceVlogging]

@LlednarWerdna I'd recommend Lubuntu for that situation.

[LlednarWerdna]

@LongDistanceVlogging k i will attempt tht

[achemachew]

Yes, I use this. Linux is great, it works. Parole sucks,I just use the VLC player.

[achemachew]

Yes, I use this. Linux is great, it works.

[tjrieves]

@TheBoganSpotter You're a dumbass.

[midfingr]

Thank you for the review. I like XFCE, however, thunar hangs when there are multiple NTFS drives, at least in my case. I've tried it with Arch Linux only to find the same thing. Something to do with gvfs, gdm or xdm + thunar for which I haven't found a solution.

Besides that, yeah, nice variation on Ubuntu.

[Linux4UnMe]

@midfingr

no probs, cheers for the comment mate :d

[MrDavidHarrison]

Technically, it should be pronounced "Ksubuntu", but I think the commonly agreed upon pronunciation is "Zoobuntu"...

[Linux4UnMe]

@MrDavidHarrison

true dat.... i dunno.... i always say X ubuntu :D

[giannolamichael]

Xubuntu 11.04 is an improvement although i like my windows minimized to the bottom as apposed to the top

[Linux4UnMe]

@giannolamichael

same

[Deliciousfruit233]

I'm sure you can just download the Dreamlinux theme and install it on Xubuntu.

[Linux4UnMe]

@Deliciousfruit233

probably

[DrFreemanJAV]

I'm loving this distro!!! :D  I finally rediscovered my love for linux!

[Linux4UnMe]

@DrFreemanJAV

haha awesome :D

[Ograws]

This is a relief from Ubuntu :D

[Linux4UnMe]

@Ograws

haha yep. Although I am loving Debian Squeeze atm

[AloofObserver]

The "dock" isn't really a dock. It's just a transparent panel that auto-hides and happens to have large icons.

[Linux4UnMe]

@AloofObserver

indeed. cheers :)

[libertyforever76]

"zoo buntu"...I love it. But if you want to put it on a machine with, say 733mhz, 256mb...you should load xubuntu on a faster machine, then remove the hard drive and put it in the lower specs machine. Course, you'll have to do that again every 6 months...I was unable to "upgrade" my lower specs machine any other way.

[ElderSnake90]

gotta love some of the program names...parole, gigolo etc..Lol

[EdWittenable]

Good job. That mouse is starting to get out of control again, though.

[Linux4UnMe]

@EdWittenable

lol

[Linux4UnMe]

@UAN2004

not sure myself... i'm only an occasional user of xfce... maybe somebody else can answer that question better than me... I know lxde is super smooth like you said though :)

[applefanpc]

The Dock is actually not default on normal Xfce Installs and the dock that's showing up is just the Xfce panel with a few tweaks so that's why it's not as feature packed and doesn't work in some ways.

[Linux4UnMe]

@applefanpc

yeah cheers for that.... strange as to why they bother putting it in there :s

[meoweo]

I put this on my web box and i love it. The Xfce is much better. I seems to run just as smooth as lubuntu to me. I like the like the task manager and the dock combo myself. I like have the regular task manager so i know what's open

[Linux4UnMe]

@meoweo

yeah xfce seems pretty cool.... lxde is nice too

[meoweo]

@Linux4UnMe I have a feeling if they keep improving xfce. it will be the new standard in the way gnome has been for the past couple years.

[Linux4UnMe]

@meoweo

dunno about that... but who knows eh

[iwanteveryting]

@meoweo I don't think Canonical would have bothered with Unity then...

[meoweo]

@iwanteveryting I'm not talking about Canocical. More about the productive linux user. I'm actually glad they are trying to grab more of the main stream market. I hope they succeed.

[qjqqyy]

@meoweo KDE was the standard before KDE4 came along and ruined everything.

[dagzzzz14]

I'm using this one!

[Linux4UnMe]

@dagzzzz14

nice ;)

[BeeFive13]

I love Xfce. I use other desktop environments from time to time, but always find myself going back to Xfce. Stable (but slow) releases combined with the perfect balance of functionality and light weight.

[Linux4UnMe]

@BeeFive13

yer i suppose xfce applies small updates like gnome have historically done? anyways... i hope they improve the default looks in the future ;)

[sneekylinux]

as you have found mate,xfce has come on leaps and bounds over the the last year,and i did see that you wanted to customise it more,if you dig into it a bit more you will find that you can do it all..

[Linux4UnMe]

@sneekylinux

yeah it seems very customisable... will have more of a play with it in future ;)

cheers sneeky

[tostoday]

Dream Linux does look cool....

[Linux4UnMe]

@tostoday

yep. Xfce could learn a lesson from them ;)

[bamdadkhan]

lubuntu doesn't have the software centre because it isn't (yet) an official derivative. anyway, nice to see a 'review' for once, not just reading out menus and stuff. i wish i found you earlier.

[Linux4UnMe]

@bamdadkhan

apparently lubuntu is now officially supported by canonical... so I guess the next version will have the software centre ;) Cheers for the comment btw, appreciated ;)

[Nyocurio]

I usually say "Ksoobuntu", and, funny enough, "X-face" (lol). It's supposed to be the way heintze mentioned though.

Not being able to create a template file? That's weird, always worked for me, maybe it's an issue with Ubuntu, as I use Fedora.

Oh, and the theme I think is entirely up to the distributor, XFCE looks different everywhere really (=

[Linux4UnMe]

@Nyocurio

yeah true dat... wish they'de give it a rennovation by default though... give Kde a run for it's money... it's just as customisable ;)

[emiel1976ep]

I run it and i changed some things and removed some programs and installed some others for it but it is great.

I love it and it replaces my classic desktop. Unity is not my thing so Xubuntu is a great replacement.

It is fast and it runs great on my laptop.

[hheintze1]

zooboontoo :) and X.F.C.E.

Honestly i am amazed you haven't used XFCE before. 4.8 is really a masterpiece of software. (almost no recourses) and the dock is not a window navigator. it is only an application launcher based on XFpanel (think the firefox button next to the menu on classic ubuntu).

[Linux4UnMe]

@hheintze1

I've dabbled mildly in Xfce here and there in the past.... but never gave it a good test run. I am quite impressed