I have a question. say a fire starts and gets going in the attic of a 3 story house. will the rest of the house be ok since the heat and smoke travels up or will the downstairs areas be effected by heat and smoke damage too...oooh wait, forgot about the water damage tthough...
@TheWaynelds look at 9/11. The planes hit the top floors but the whole buildings came down. Not trying to make light of the situation, just using it as an example.
@TheWaynelds If the FD arrives fast those are easier. Keep in mind that fire doesn't only spread up. It eats everything it comes in contact with. So it all depends on the kind of construction, what kind of things are in the building. For example, let's say the fire starts in wiring in the attic wall. Fire can spread from behind the wall to downstairs. Roll of carpeting/paint cans in the attic catch fire. Burns through the floor, big burning thing falls down. Lots of things can happen.
@Tanfeliz How does a fire start from wiring anyway though? Excluding situations where too many things are plugged in to an outlet (which i figure would trip the circuit breaker as it should), or if some bozo installs the wiring wrong. I know electricity carries heat, but isnt that what wire insulation is for?
I just keep hearing about fires that start in walls from wiring, but id figure that cant happen with all of the circuit breakers and such protecting us, kinda makes me worry now.
@TheWaynelds Heat does transfer too. Its called "heat radiation"...I'm guessing firefighters only know how fire acts...I'd rather have my house standing and replace a few carpets and walls due to water damage instead of an entire house due to fire. But wiring can touch and cause sparks, Circuit Breakers can and do fail. Insulation can grow old or if you run alot of power through a wire that cannot handle it, it will heat up and do damage. I'm a firefighter, also a electriction, s*** happens.
@Hobbitchoker Seems like in my area, arson is a bigger threat than anything. In august, a house across my street had a small electric fire. They had it all fixed up until lastnight when some d bag torched it and ruined it. Last month a vacant apartment, which is right nextdoor to that house, was torched as well. Several cars were torched in the alley that runs behind our street too. My neighbor nextdoor was killed in an accident last week, so im keeping a really close eye on his empty house now
@TheWaynelds Let me guess...the police haven't stepped up security in your neighborhood, huh? Funny thing is, Arson is the number one reason for most fires...or atleast in most places. It differes I'm sure. Keep a good eye on it, man. We don't like risking our skin for someones thrill.
There's so much more to firefighting than just fighting fires. There may have been reports of tenants trapped inside or they could have been conducting a primary search when the fire flashed over. Nobody on youtube would really know the circumstances unless they we're there. So people shouldn't be so quick to assume the obvious. Toronto Firefighters are highly trained and very professional. I have great respect for them and hope of becoming one someday.
@gizmotwadlebutt Here also ofcourse. But by this kind of fire's, where the flames get out of the building is our first priority to get a hose on the flames to get them that far down they can go inside. This procedure they folow in Holland by entering the second floor. But i understand you'r reaction.!
@jonnie150494 Your right A high priority would be to keep the flames inside the building. The houses on the B & D sides are very close. My main objective would be to save those houses and fight the fire from the outside for the time being. From just seeing this much of the scene. The house that is burning looks to be a almost a total loss with little chance of someone still being alive if there inside. I would have a good knock down before sending my guys back in again.
I cannot believe the comment regarding a hose line having a mostly negative effect. It only takes a small quantity of water in the correct form at the right place to hold a developing fire. Searching without a hose line is extremely dangerous and should be a last resort in circumstances where a risk benefit analysis has determined that the tactic is likely to succeed.
@lepernz. mmmmmmmmm. what? Are you a firefighter? Probably not! Not everyone can have a hose line with them. Wish we could though! Eng.pumper tea has the line, Ladder crew does search and rescue with tools. How can you carry tools and a hose line with ya at the same time? Send in a nother crew with a hose? dont think so pal. Bad enough you have x amount of members in the same structure at the same time. even if it was a hose team. shit happens and you may have to bail!
@lepernz. mmmmmmmmm. what? Are you a firefighter? Probably not! Not everyone can have a hose line with them. Wish we could though! Eng.pumper tea has the line, Ladder crew does search and rescue with tools. How can you carry tools and a hose line with ya at the same time? Send in a nother crew with a hose? dont think so pal. Bad enough you have x amount of members in the same structure at the same time
what did they think was going to happen when they gave it more air by braking the window. That way works with other supporting crews going in with them. dumb ass move, but glade to see they made it out. The chief should get powned for that 1.
It is just an observation, dont take it personally, ALL fire services world wide have different crew doin different jobs at incidents, All I want to know is why cant you do search and rescue with a delivery in hand. It will protect the rescue crew and you can prevent roll over/ flashover thusalso negating the need to slide down a ladder that is not even footed, What is an unsafe practice to you fireguy4?
@lepernz Bringing a hose along with a search will do mostly negative. This is because it slows down the searching firefighters, distracts them from searching, and can harm potential victims. A firefighting hand line is not a garden hose. Fully charged a 1.75" diameter can weigh in excess of 400lbs and be very hard to manuever. In a fire you want to get to a victim as fast as possible to reduce the amount of smoke inhalation and burns. Also fighting fire can keep rescuers from saving a life.
@lepernz Different units do different jobs. That was probably a ladder company doing search and rescue. Fire took off and advanced up to the second floor, chasing them out. It happens.
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jayc14943 3 weeks ago
This fire started in the garage, the woman who owned the house drove her car ( that was on fire)
into the garage, which just happens to be below the house.
ikeswrx 2 months ago
good thing the truckies were aj on the spot. ladders are important part of the fireground operation.
93CFD 3 months ago
Wow. Glad they got out safe. Thats a hell of a lot of smoke. Probably couldn't see jack shit
RcknDisturbed1 3 months ago
I have a question. say a fire starts and gets going in the attic of a 3 story house. will the rest of the house be ok since the heat and smoke travels up or will the downstairs areas be effected by heat and smoke damage too...oooh wait, forgot about the water damage tthough...
TheWaynelds 6 months ago
@TheWaynelds look at 9/11. The planes hit the top floors but the whole buildings came down. Not trying to make light of the situation, just using it as an example.
nfs3fan2 5 months ago
@TheWaynelds If the FD arrives fast those are easier. Keep in mind that fire doesn't only spread up. It eats everything it comes in contact with. So it all depends on the kind of construction, what kind of things are in the building. For example, let's say the fire starts in wiring in the attic wall. Fire can spread from behind the wall to downstairs. Roll of carpeting/paint cans in the attic catch fire. Burns through the floor, big burning thing falls down. Lots of things can happen.
Tanfeliz 4 months ago
@Tanfeliz How does a fire start from wiring anyway though? Excluding situations where too many things are plugged in to an outlet (which i figure would trip the circuit breaker as it should), or if some bozo installs the wiring wrong. I know electricity carries heat, but isnt that what wire insulation is for?
I just keep hearing about fires that start in walls from wiring, but id figure that cant happen with all of the circuit breakers and such protecting us, kinda makes me worry now.
TheWaynelds 4 months ago
@TheWaynelds Heat does transfer too. Its called "heat radiation"...I'm guessing firefighters only know how fire acts...I'd rather have my house standing and replace a few carpets and walls due to water damage instead of an entire house due to fire. But wiring can touch and cause sparks, Circuit Breakers can and do fail. Insulation can grow old or if you run alot of power through a wire that cannot handle it, it will heat up and do damage. I'm a firefighter, also a electriction, s*** happens.
Hobbitchoker 3 months ago
@Hobbitchoker Seems like in my area, arson is a bigger threat than anything. In august, a house across my street had a small electric fire. They had it all fixed up until lastnight when some d bag torched it and ruined it. Last month a vacant apartment, which is right nextdoor to that house, was torched as well. Several cars were torched in the alley that runs behind our street too. My neighbor nextdoor was killed in an accident last week, so im keeping a really close eye on his empty house now
TheWaynelds 3 months ago
@TheWaynelds Let me guess...the police haven't stepped up security in your neighborhood, huh? Funny thing is, Arson is the number one reason for most fires...or atleast in most places. It differes I'm sure. Keep a good eye on it, man. We don't like risking our skin for someones thrill.
Hobbitchoker 3 months ago
There's so much more to firefighting than just fighting fires. There may have been reports of tenants trapped inside or they could have been conducting a primary search when the fire flashed over. Nobody on youtube would really know the circumstances unless they we're there. So people shouldn't be so quick to assume the obvious. Toronto Firefighters are highly trained and very professional. I have great respect for them and hope of becoming one someday.
WilliamSummerbell 8 months ago 21
first priority by a house fire, put a hose out to control the fire.!
that's the way here in Holland.!
jonnie150494 9 months ago
@jonnie150494 First priority here is life safety.
gizmotwadlebutt 5 months ago
@gizmotwadlebutt Here also ofcourse. But by this kind of fire's, where the flames get out of the building is our first priority to get a hose on the flames to get them that far down they can go inside. This procedure they folow in Holland by entering the second floor. But i understand you'r reaction.!
jonnie150494 5 months ago
@jonnie150494 Your right A high priority would be to keep the flames inside the building. The houses on the B & D sides are very close. My main objective would be to save those houses and fight the fire from the outside for the time being. From just seeing this much of the scene. The house that is burning looks to be a almost a total loss with little chance of someone still being alive if there inside. I would have a good knock down before sending my guys back in again.
gizmotwadlebutt 5 months ago
I cannot believe the comment regarding a hose line having a mostly negative effect. It only takes a small quantity of water in the correct form at the right place to hold a developing fire. Searching without a hose line is extremely dangerous and should be a last resort in circumstances where a risk benefit analysis has determined that the tactic is likely to succeed.
realisticAus 10 months ago
Was the firefighter that fell off of the roof ok?
How can there be so many firefighters on the second floor when you have too much fire below on the first floor?
Looks like a good way to hurt somebody.
tashashinn 11 months ago
@lepernz. mmmmmmmmm. what? Are you a firefighter? Probably not! Not everyone can have a hose line with them. Wish we could though! Eng.pumper tea has the line, Ladder crew does search and rescue with tools. How can you carry tools and a hose line with ya at the same time? Send in a nother crew with a hose? dont think so pal. Bad enough you have x amount of members in the same structure at the same time. even if it was a hose team. shit happens and you may have to bail!
wfd6912 1 year ago
@lepernz. mmmmmmmmm. what? Are you a firefighter? Probably not! Not everyone can have a hose line with them. Wish we could though! Eng.pumper tea has the line, Ladder crew does search and rescue with tools. How can you carry tools and a hose line with ya at the same time? Send in a nother crew with a hose? dont think so pal. Bad enough you have x amount of members in the same structure at the same time
wfd6912 1 year ago
W:OW
gagarcia87 1 year ago
I agree it is gonna be flashing soon.
bussellboy 1 year ago
looks like the second story, right side is about to flash over
Tippmannmann999 1 year ago
what did they think was going to happen when they gave it more air by braking the window. That way works with other supporting crews going in with them. dumb ass move, but glade to see they made it out. The chief should get powned for that 1.
horostitute 1 year ago
is this up in Toronto??
nemo7504 1 year ago
It is just an observation, dont take it personally, ALL fire services world wide have different crew doin different jobs at incidents, All I want to know is why cant you do search and rescue with a delivery in hand. It will protect the rescue crew and you can prevent roll over/ flashover thusalso negating the need to slide down a ladder that is not even footed, What is an unsafe practice to you fireguy4?
lepernz 1 year ago
@lepernz Bringing a hose along with a search will do mostly negative. This is because it slows down the searching firefighters, distracts them from searching, and can harm potential victims. A firefighting hand line is not a garden hose. Fully charged a 1.75" diameter can weigh in excess of 400lbs and be very hard to manuever. In a fire you want to get to a victim as fast as possible to reduce the amount of smoke inhalation and burns. Also fighting fire can keep rescuers from saving a life.
Bayview471 11 months ago
why do americian firefighters never take a hose in with them? The fire doesnt get smaller on its own. mmm
lepernz 1 year ago
@lepernz Different units do different jobs. That was probably a ladder company doing search and rescue. Fire took off and advanced up to the second floor, chasing them out. It happens.
gotgank 1 year ago 13
@lepernz i dont know where you are from but here we have diff. units do different jobs. dont make a stupid ass comment unless you have the facts
fireguye4 1 year ago
this is actually Toronto, Canada.
rally5354 1 year ago