Lucifer is not the devil/satan. that is a false association propagated by christian institutions to demonize a spiritual movement/ understanding. Lucifer is 'the morning star.' Venus in the dark morning sky, trumpeting the retreat of darkness in the wake of the coming dawn. I also see it as 'bearing light.' To me it represents a lot as far as hidden knowledge and the suppression of such knowledge, as well as the dangers of dogmatic bias.
@ProfessaOFeensworth Not really. Lucifer in Latin means 'light bringer.' It's genderless, and refers to a daily celestial occurrence. It's more etymology than symbolism, where the 'devil' association is entirely baseless and exists b/c of hearsay and passed down rhetoric. If it's meaningless to you that's fine. I personally get a lot from it both as a concept by itself and in light of the Western Mythos that demonizes and subverts its meaning. Lucifer is a beacon of hope in dark times.
The way the crowd is standing there stunned totally makes me think of Back to the Future--it's like when he's rocking out and they just gawk. He then says "Yeah, you're not ready for this yet. Sorry." or something of the like.
Good news! A new album is in the making, and is likely to feature this very song, according to a statement by Dax Pierson in their facebook group. Also, I spoke to Jel yesterday, and he said they're getting back together in Autumn, and are likely done mixing in February.
maybe it will be released this year!! and this song is probably one song of the record. This is what Dax wrote:
Today is the first day of recording. The guys are at the studio in West Oakland and I'm here at home getting a WebCam feed via Skype...The band is working on a song they wrote on tour called "sure as debt"...
anticon is actually a boutique shell operaton controlled by universal/EMI since its actually formation. likely this is why slug and aesop left, albeit DJX apparently sold out more quickly. i doubt anyone reading this has the patience to do this kind of paper work but honestly, come back at me LMAO.
WoW thats completly incorrect lol aesop and slug were never on anticon, slug was on for one maybe two projects,never signed it was somethings a bunch of friends of art created, aesop didnt have much to do with anticon because of the thing with EL P, aesop and EL P are good friends, and both labels are self contained, thats why they thrive
I played this video in my DVJ set about year ago(my country is too stupid for anticon too), but one dude came to stage and askedwhat song was that... dose one virus is spreading!
I spoke to JEL after a Subtle show in Portland in May and he said "After The Notwist finish their current tour we'll begin recording the next 13&God album." Notwist are touring till like October of this year and Dose and Jel are both on tour in Europe with Subtle till mid summer. So hopefully the next album will be out by summer 2009 at the soonest.
according to wikipedia, dose made a statement that once the notwist was finished with their album, 13&God was hitting the studio again. I can't find where or when he said this, but exciting none-the-less.
could be that the new themselves lp has to come out, tour de force, then they reunite in the studio. makes since to me. themselves lp is coming prolly summer or so, i'm guessing/hoping.
the alarm on my old cell sounded like that noise at the end. kinda freaky. sure as debt.
everything he does on the boards with his voice is cuntageous (i can't blieve thats how its spelt) and awesome. i'm hawking the next dose tour. will it be themselves, or these mofucka's.
Me too, drawbridge and Odessa were both amazing tracks with the 2 of them. The guy is fucking incredible. Have you heard Boom Bip & Dose One - circle? If not i highly recommend it.
Look at this huge crowd... look at this cool venue! Dont get me wrong, I love seeing my favorite indie artists in an intimate setting... but man, it would be cool to see an anticon artist receive is just deserves by playing at a festival like this in our country!
So strange - As I watched this video, I asked myself, how could this dopeness be so widely unknown? Then I scrolled down to your post and found my answer. Then I felt depressed.
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P0ll0Rud0 2 weeks ago
Best live performance I've ever eyed or eared.
Lolaandthemachines 9 months ago 5
automatic tragic addict automatic tragic addict
energ8t 10 months ago 6
yea just like you were so famous to debt, bet
realityassistant 11 months ago
at first glance, I thought that was Jel behind the keyboard, and I was shocked & confused.
mouthbreather1 1 year ago
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they will have their poems sung to them or they will have nothing at a-all.
hornsofarabbit 1 year ago
Lucifer is not the devil/satan. that is a false association propagated by christian institutions to demonize a spiritual movement/ understanding. Lucifer is 'the morning star.' Venus in the dark morning sky, trumpeting the retreat of darkness in the wake of the coming dawn. I also see it as 'bearing light.' To me it represents a lot as far as hidden knowledge and the suppression of such knowledge, as well as the dangers of dogmatic bias.
hornsofarabbit 1 year ago
@hornsofarabbit
lucifer being "the morning star" is just as symbolic and plastic as him being "the devil".
ProfessaOFeensworth 1 year ago
@ProfessaOFeensworth Not really. Lucifer in Latin means 'light bringer.' It's genderless, and refers to a daily celestial occurrence. It's more etymology than symbolism, where the 'devil' association is entirely baseless and exists b/c of hearsay and passed down rhetoric. If it's meaningless to you that's fine. I personally get a lot from it both as a concept by itself and in light of the Western Mythos that demonizes and subverts its meaning. Lucifer is a beacon of hope in dark times.
hornsofarabbit 1 year ago
@hornsofarabbit
right on, i didn't know that. i was referring more to the dark POV where nothing means anything, haha
ProfessaOFeensworth 1 year ago
The way the crowd is standing there stunned totally makes me think of Back to the Future--it's like when he's rocking out and they just gawk. He then says "Yeah, you're not ready for this yet. Sorry." or something of the like.
justinkoenig 1 year ago 3
This looks like a professional recording, where is the video of the rest of the show?!?!?! WANT
joeguardi 1 year ago
GOD IS 13 & GOD!!!
aleaz23 1 year ago
Good news! A new album is in the making, and is likely to feature this very song, according to a statement by Dax Pierson in their facebook group. Also, I spoke to Jel yesterday, and he said they're getting back together in Autumn, and are likely done mixing in February.
antipattern 1 year ago
@antipattern thats great news
BareEndnuEnMathies 1 year ago
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antipattern 1 year ago
жаль что в МСК не играли
G0M0S 1 year ago
this track wants to be released!!!!!
Butterfingerthegreat 1 year ago
Does anyone think this song is somehow referencing Sympathy for the Devil by the Stones?
cornbreadjunkie 1 year ago
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i think it's about sympathy for the indebted artist
hornsofarabbit 1 year ago
i'm a big fan of lucifer too, tho.
hornsofarabbit 1 year ago
@hornsofarabbit I prefer Baphomet
astumpe80 1 year ago
@astumpe80 whoops i replied back but didn't address it..
hornsofarabbit 1 year ago
i need this in my life what album or up coming album is this on please?
aleaz23 1 year ago
best. best. best. best.
poopinata 2 years ago
This is sexy stuff right here.
yellowknots 2 years ago 2
they are working on a new 13 & god record !
maybe it will be released this year!! and this song is probably one song of the record. This is what Dax wrote:
Today is the first day of recording. The guys are at the studio in West Oakland and I'm here at home getting a WebCam feed via Skype...The band is working on a song they wrote on tour called "sure as debt"...
(not the whole message)
funkylama 2 years ago
absolutely flawless performance
lukeloseth 2 years ago
anticon is actually a boutique shell operaton controlled by universal/EMI since its actually formation. likely this is why slug and aesop left, albeit DJX apparently sold out more quickly. i doubt anyone reading this has the patience to do this kind of paper work but honestly, come back at me LMAO.
garfus2 2 years ago
is that true!!! fuck me if it is its a sucks
baron343 2 years ago
WoW thats completly incorrect lol aesop and slug were never on anticon, slug was on for one maybe two projects,never signed it was somethings a bunch of friends of art created, aesop didnt have much to do with anticon because of the thing with EL P, aesop and EL P are good friends, and both labels are self contained, thats why they thrive
604SNOWMAN 2 years ago
Aesop was on Def Jux you dumb fuck, and Slug is just friends with those guys
chultin8 1 year ago
wish i was there..
TonyTonyG 2 years ago
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where can i get this song?
teamrocketsucks 2 years ago
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KoiKoi1985 2 years ago
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what a shit song
nathanrr16 2 years ago
i've been there live and they completely blew my mind off!
everytime I listen to it here on youtube I can't imagine what a fucking brilliant track this ist!!!
better than the whole record........
Butterfingerthegreat 2 years ago
this song is fantastic... an anyone tell me what album its off cause ireally cant find it?
scarboundpixie 2 years ago
I don't think it's been released on an album yet. But I have heard they might be recording soon. So hopefully this'll be on a new record soon enough.
BoratBastard 2 years ago
hey does anyone happen to know the piano chords for this song?
chepackard 2 years ago
Mr. Drucker told us 13&god were going to be putting together a new record over the summer. Maybe they'll finally record this? Eeek! Exciting!
And tip my hat to Havoc, the new Themselves is mind-blowing. Rapping4Money is where it's at.
kitrichardson 2 years ago
where can i find this song, has it even been recorded?
chultin 2 years ago
to this date, no. your best bet is to find a youtube video downloader/converter and convert the video to mp3. its an amazing song.
Havoc0588 2 years ago
if the new album for 13& God is remotely like this... It's gonna take over the music circuit. The new themselves is ridiculously amazing
Havoc0588 2 years ago
their site says the new Themselves came out a few days ago. Can't wait to hear it.
stephencrigger 2 years ago
13&god sweeeeeeet!!!!!
richieb420 3 years ago
i saw this performance live and it was awesome. great band, great festival, great day,...
trivial87 3 years ago
I played this video in my DVJ set about year ago(my country is too stupid for anticon too), but one dude came to stage and askedwhat song was that... dose one virus is spreading!
skalpelis 3 years ago
I spoke to JEL after a Subtle show in Portland in May and he said "After The Notwist finish their current tour we'll begin recording the next 13&God album." Notwist are touring till like October of this year and Dose and Jel are both on tour in Europe with Subtle till mid summer. So hopefully the next album will be out by summer 2009 at the soonest.
irepresentfool 3 years ago
Holy shit, that's great news that they're going to begin recording the next 13 & God album soon.
deadredeyes 3 years ago
SPACCATE!!!!!
artimarziani 3 years ago
i thinks they're done. the notwist put out a new album...
maybe hiatus?
jackfuckingjevons 3 years ago
according to wikipedia, dose made a statement that once the notwist was finished with their album, 13&God was hitting the studio again. I can't find where or when he said this, but exciting none-the-less.
stephencrigger 3 years ago
could be that the new themselves lp has to come out, tour de force, then they reunite in the studio. makes since to me. themselves lp is coming prolly summer or so, i'm guessing/hoping.
the alarm on my old cell sounded like that noise at the end. kinda freaky. sure as debt.
hornsofarabbit 2 years ago
i have looked all over for a place to buy this song. can anyone help me, please!
ctackett 3 years ago
if anyone has an answer to ctackett's question, TELL ME TOO!
jackfuckingjevons 3 years ago
everything he does on the boards with his voice is cuntageous (i can't blieve thats how its spelt) and awesome. i'm hawking the next dose tour. will it be themselves, or these mofucka's.
hornsofarabbit 4 years ago
... that's not how it's spelt
DKGonzo86 3 years ago
after listening to this song I just can't wait for the new album to come out :)
animaegray 4 years ago 2
holy crap that was crazy, maybe the best video i have seen on youtube
ctackett 4 years ago
Agreed. I want to hear a Studio Version!
chaosshaff 4 years ago
i heard dose oen off an aesop rock song and ever since ive wanted more and mroe ofthe dude. Fuckin nuts man. i dig this stuff alot.
DirrtyRockerBoy 4 years ago
Me too, drawbridge and Odessa were both amazing tracks with the 2 of them. The guy is fucking incredible. Have you heard Boom Bip & Dose One - circle? If not i highly recommend it.
DKGonzo86 4 years ago
u mean square:P
and yeah i have.
i swear man anythign and EVERYTHING that guy touches is fuckin classic.
what a fuckin weirdass. i love it hahahahaha :P
DirrtyRockerBoy 4 years ago
no man it's circle. Buck has an album called square though that is also impressive.
But yeah man, everything Dose is on is amazing. Can't wait to hear the new Subtle.
DKGonzo86 4 years ago
he does alot of stuffs. ALOT
Them (Themselves) -Dose and jel
Clouddead-Dose, Jel, Why? (singular) and odd nosdam
Subtle- Themselves and come cool band members
13 and god- Themselves and the notwist
Doseone-solo (rap/pop/unidentified/poetry books)
Deep Puddel Dynamics-Doseone, Slug(of atmosphere), Alias, Sole
Boom bip and Doseone-cool album called circle.
qarneson 4 years ago
he does "alot of stuffs"? interesting.
modustheoperandi 3 years ago
s'called the anticon.
love them!
jackfuckingjevons 3 years ago
Jel wasn't in clouddead
MichaelLeroi 3 years ago 2
Haha.. gotta love Dose. I don't see how those glasses stay on his head with all his shaking around
nevermind, they just came off while typing this
spitrabbit2 4 years ago
unbelievably awesome. kill to see em live.
AndeeDeeVee 4 years ago
Is this going to be on the new 13 & God album?
eher9284 4 years ago
f***ck yes, So powerful, a shame it's not appearing on the album, but exceptional in live!
brucelit 4 years ago
Look at this huge crowd... look at this cool venue! Dont get me wrong, I love seeing my favorite indie artists in an intimate setting... but man, it would be cool to see an anticon artist receive is just deserves by playing at a festival like this in our country!
pgordon5446 4 years ago
our country is too stupid for anticon.
DudeYouAreLame 4 years ago
So strange - As I watched this video, I asked myself, how could this dopeness be so widely unknown? Then I scrolled down to your post and found my answer. Then I felt depressed.
rcroxyosox1 4 years ago
our country is too stupid for anticon. please see ozzfest or warped tour...
DudeYouAreLame 4 years ago
Dose One has amazing stage presence. The half angel wing is a nice touch.
bunnibot 4 years ago
this song is SO sick!
why wasn't it on the album?!?!
Snailwuede 4 years ago
Maybe it's gonna be on the next one??
SRGisaBAMF 4 years ago
where can i get lyrics for this
y0rgos 4 years ago
out of control tight
januthin 4 years ago
Awesome !!
b0nkb0nkb0nk 4 years ago
mad ill
infavoroftheweather 4 years ago
=*( <-tears of joy
mrjackjackjack 4 years ago
omg. the madness just doesn't stop. i need this album NOW.
MidasGutz 4 years ago
i really wish they would all get together and release another record. they're so amazing.
modustheoperandi 4 years ago