Genesis P-Orridge is better than the Beatles - XLR8R TV

[ScriblesandDoodles]

todo el rato po pero igual me gustan los beattles un poco

[Osthropek]

in my book, TG are the beatles

[PAULLONDEN]

Wow..he walks(wobbles) like a lady already.....some more botox in the lower lip please.

There's a hidden message here....A headstockless bass guitar.....;-{}

...only in Jew Yoik

[Zinian]

Does anyone know what's playing in the background at around 5:55 or so?

[SchizophrenicArguing]

@Zinian It's "I love you, I know" by Psychic TV.

(Proud of myself for finding it finally. I've been after for almost a week.)



[Omegashadowyoshi]

I like TG, I see them as an influential and creative band, and if they were still around id go to their concerts, but i just dont listen to them =P

[nefariousplateau]

like this... see the One True TOPI Tribe...

truetopi.ning.com

[tertommy]

Genesis P-Orridge censors Dec rants, what an act of infamy. There is NO ESCAPE from this worst gangster police state, using ALL of the deadly gangster Frankenstein controls!

[SchizophrenicArguing]

@tertommy y u quote da Snares.

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[tertommy]

@SchizophrenicArguing Francis E. Dec Esq. IS your only hope for a future, yet old Neil purges crucial lines from sacred Dec Rants. That speaks to the pretense of P-Orridge and what an utter poseur is Genesis P-Orridge.

[flexyco]

Would've been an even better interview if the sound was mixed properly. You can hardly hear him speak so I turn up the volume, having to turn it down again for the music (it's 1 AM over here).

[FractalBolt]

I have always preferred the bands around Throbbing Gristle/Psychic TV instead of TG/PTV itself, like Current 93 and Boyd Rice, but the influence of TB and Genesis cannot be denied.

Better than the Beatles? I don't know, I've never liked them.

[dangerfellini]

Gen's a fucking teabag c.u.n.t. that used to whack his kids and ex-wife around. Fuck him. He really should kill himself.

[fizzypopism]

@dangerfellini So? Apparently Martin Luther King beat his wife too. And John Lennon did drugs while his infant son cried in the next room. It's the ideas that matter, not the person.

[dangerfellini]

@fizzypopism yeah, yeah, yeah....I'd hate to be your child or wife then.

[fizzypopism]

@dangerfellini >implying I'm a man.

I listen to music for music, not for moral values. Do you honestly think that every movie star, every musician, every TV show producer and every creator of the things you like is a good, moral person? If not, then you're being a hypocrite. I don't think Genesis music would be any different if he did or did not abuse his children/wife, so why would that stop me from listening to him?

[dangerfellini]

@fizzypopism Fine, then worship the idiot. How much time did you spend working with him+watching his children? Of course I still hear music by unsavory types+can appreciate it. It's just Gen's personality is so sickening to me after being caught in the divorce crossfire. If all the BS he claims was true, then perhaps I'd have more empathy. But I know how he inflates and twists a grain of truth + turns it into self promo fluff and if that is what it takes to get ahead in this world then fuck it.

[fizzypopism]

@dangerfellini How is listening to a guy's music worshipping? I don't care what his personality is. I can't do anything about it. Not like I can call the cops and say I read on the Internet some industrial artist beats his wife. If you honestly can't separate art from the creator than that's your deal.

[dangerfellini]

@fizzypopism Yeah, whatever. I worked with him for years and at one time knew him very well. I guess you probably think I didn't make any of those records with him. All I can say now is that everything he says disgusts me and if people want to think he's so special and important then that's their deal. He really is a seriously flawed individual.

[fizzypopism]

@dangerfellini That's fine. And you might be totally right. He might be a complete jerk and I'm sorry you had to see that side of him. I understand that it's difficult to separate the person from the work if you were actually involved, so I can sympathize with that. But I was just saying in general we should try and appreciate the idea itself.

[dangerfellini]

@fizzypopism Yeah but I think his ideas are weak these days and very shallow and superficial. It's such a tragic waste. Jackie would probably still be alive if she did have a medical condition and treated it by actually going to a Dr. Instead they get plastic surgery and gold teeth. It doesn't add up or make any sense. And it just spoils all the fond memories of working together and watching for the kids with his relentless ever expanding egotism.

[fizzypopism]

@dangerfellini See I haven't listened to much of his new work so I have no idea what my opinion is on it. It sucks that your problems with him have soured what should have been cool memories. You're obviously very sensitive to this sort of thing. And obviously as someone who has to relationship with Genesis I can't really picture it. Sucks you have to deal with angry fanboys, but try to understand that to fans what he does personally doesn't concern us. Sorry still, you seem cool enough.

[sgavin77]

@dangerfellini I was around Gen and Jackie around the time she was diagnosed and there was nothing to stop what happened. Gen and Jackie were a very happy couple and That's terribly wrong that you say what you said. Furthermore, I don't meet many people as strong a person as Jackie was and I find it hard to believe She would allow anyone to control her health ! And I think Gen is an awesome boy/Lady. She may be difficult at times, but she's been through a lot and contributed a lot.

[dangerfellini]

@sgavin77 Yeah, and I was around Gen & Paula and Caresse & Genesse for years. What did I say that was so "terribly wrong" ?

[MrSollicitationis]

Crimen Sollicitationis

[milbury55]

Gen is just a thoroughly nice man.......FULL STOP!

[England5is5the5best]

John Lennon would love to have been Genesis P.Orridge

[batterycock]

mum?

[LySeRgIa2]

I'm laughing as I read these comments, "Genesis is a pretentious twat, but he was part of something interesting" and "Genesis better than the Beatles yeah that's bullshit" and I have to say is, if you think Genesis P-Orridge is such a douche then why watch this...?

Genesis is anything but normal, but if you don't like it don't watch this.

Do you think you know him better than various well respected musicians...?

and really is his plastic surgery the best you could think of...?

[spiritual101]

4:46

Does anyone know the name of this song?

[romeosdistress]

@spiritual101 'I Love You, I Know' from Mr Alien Brain vs The Skinwalkers

[UberTubeGoon]

Joan Rivers eat your heart out.

[phibess]

It's obvious GPO's got more brains than all you haters. Gysin, Burroughs wouldn't spend their time & work with some brainless twat who'd nothing relevant to say like you haters. Stop hating things/people that are different. Write your own story, live your life & don't be afraid to be different, all's permitted. Choose your own path and BE FREE is all free spirits ('weirdos' for some) are trying to tell you. GPO's not better than the Beatles, Beatles were not better than GPO, TG..just different

[dangerfellini]

@phibess FYI, Gysin called Gen a "Zup Kabir", which means Big Dick, Burroughs called Gen a Poseur and Leary called Gen a "big baby".

[kitchen867]

as much as i dislike GPO, i dislike the beatles even more.

[faunflynn]

This is like saying diamonds are forever.

Forever what ?

[g8ofhelll]

we are lucky to have them on this plane.

[groinhat]

No sensible person would compare TG with the Beatles, it's like comparing oranges with hairdryers. TG mattered musically 30 or 35 years ago, whether you like them or not they did mean something. Gen was a pretentious twat who was part of something interesting and worthwhile, now he's a pretentious irrelevant twat reliving his past pretentiousness and twathood.

If you saw a woman his age so full of silicon, bleach and botox you'd laugh at her. And rightly so, fucking conformist bitch.

[anothercountyheard]

@groinhat You're pretending you know what you're talking about. GPO is only "pretensious" if you are alienated by his acts by lack of comprehension. I find his appearance absurd, embarassing but his and TG's influence is

greater now than ever. TG/PTV/Coil/Chirs&Cosey is to chillwave/witchhouse what Velvet Underground was to punk. The big difference between Beatles and TG/GPO is that the Beatles influence played out 30 years ago, while TG's is still growing... or maybe you don't know witchhouse

[MysticMonkCat]

Better than the Beatles? Oh sure. Total crap.

[drphonic7]

I love Throbbing Gristle, but GPO has always been the least interesting, least musical member while being the most attention seeking. I have absolutely no respect for this lameass whatsoever.

[FuckTheWoman]

@drphonic7 i totally agree with you dude.

gpo is a total pretentious wanker wiener.

i got a huge respect for projects like Sutcliffe Jugend, Peter Christopherson.

[richievegas01]

Is this some kind of competition? Genesis P.Orridge is better than The Beatles at... spot welding. Genesis P. Orridge is better than The Beatles... according to Neil Megson. It's amazing that he's spent so long in the US and he hasn't lost his accent! He sounds like some old Granny off Coronation Street! "Back in my day all we had was JG Ballard and a synthesizer manual, kids these days, they don't know they're born!" But hey, he's still really 'dangerous' and 'provocative' and everything. Not.

[Goblobslobshoblot]

1:07

[wheelworker1]

gen looks lot better than most 59 year olds...

[M0THERKN0WSBEST]

What a sweetheart.

[fashionista16]

A beautiful artist who truly challenges everyone to un-learn and think differently. I love it. Great interview!

[Doomsday1995]

@pugghead We want that worthless piece of shit porridge not a stupid troll who has become apathetic to his life and now really thinks that people who listen to extreme industrial would give a shit about people like you.

This is what least I and hopefully many others think about our current community with this hilarious fascism all over it. YOUR KIND DESERVE TO DIE FOR YOUR LACK OF EMPATHY, i might be now feeding the troll but i don't really fuckin care cause this is the internet & jungle rules.

[pugghead]

@Doomsday1995 looks like i got a reaction..and a predictable one at that.. that old fag P-Orridge would BE PROUD!

[Doomsday1995]

@pugghead HEELLLLYEAAH!

[SavagesInMyTown]

it looks like he got a face lift and stuff put in his lips lol

[jeffdeanable]

Wow...Genesis is something else. Seems nice. 

[revengeguy]

this guy looks sounds and dresses like a fucking fag

[jocksilver7]

@revengeguy "...if you write as good as you talk, nobody reads you!" (Lou Reed, live in NYC, 1978, "Take no Prisoners", giving fair warning to a smartbum in the audience...)

[Smola666]

@revengeguy Because he is a fag and openly admits to this

[HUGOBOSCO]

@revengeguy

you sound really smart.

[JesusStein]

genesis was so cute when he was in the tg days, and so cool looking when ptv came out - but now he kind of looks like the octomom - which is o.k. i guess - nobody is gonna wanna do that one to be hip like the piercing, tattoo craze he initiated back in the day

[noisewallofdeath]

lol

[67675656565655656565]

what the fuck is wrong with this faggot kill it

[robvw]

I think that there is a throbbing gristle now somewhere, but remember at that time only a few thousand people were aware of their stuff. They are in fact bigger now than then. So keep your eyes and ears open to everything you think is shit cause that MIGHT be the next TG that kids 30 years later might really like to look back to.

[synthwerk]

Now a days Gen reminds me of a bunch of old grandmas with s/his/m clinky clanky jewelry.

[DewsRandom]

Nobody is better than the beatles!

[usdmsw21]

haha well if Genesis agrees it must be true

[salvadory]

better than the beatles-hmm i dont think so! But a true artist with a unique and special feel- hell yes! Great man great woman great artist!

[johnnyyen]

I love Genesis P-O and yes, he is better than the Beatles.

[DewsRandom]

@johnnyyen No he isn't.

[scitsalcoryp]

@DewsRandom He might not be better than the Beatles..but then the aforementioned are easily the most overrated dickheads ever . I met Gen in the mid 80's and yeah he' s a nice guy and all that shit..but so what ? After seeing the bullshit vid on here about him being on the dole all those years ( probably still is ) fuck 'im .

Fuck the Beatles and fuck TG...go suck up some Whitehouse or Merzbow if you think you have the stones ...best regards to you .

[klummp]

IT says ITS TRUE!!!!!!!! ya know i would get mad but really who cares the 5 people on earth who know or care about GPO or whatever this thing consideres Itself can think that no one will notice'

[positionnormal71]

some people are the embodyment of individuality.

[franznpdx]

He is so smart and has such a way with words. He expresses himself so well. Must be smart drugs.

And yes it would be odd to be so angry at 59 or in my case 50 as I was 30 years ago. Happy Birthday Genesis, February 22nd we will both get a year older.

[scottrockit]

What is the song at 0:25, before Godstar?

[stringlur]

"discipline" I'm pretty sure. the full video is here on youtube

[mushroomleg]

lady jaye died a week or so before psychic tv was supposed to play in my city of cleveland. i felt so sad for gen...

[mavericdragon]

i like his purse, i should get one for my mom

[bartlettandbosc]

He's such an interesting person. Feel so sad for his loss.

[anthonycrystal33]

Missing Jaye BIG TIME!!  xo

[SuperstarNeilC]

I wanna marry GP-O !! x x

[LunaSeaSane]

And there is something dreadfully likeable about them.

[LunaSeaSane]

One of the reasons as to why I avoid television is also to avoid being bombarded with publicity.

QUIT THE ADS. THEY'RE A PAIN.

[Eriefire]

@LunaSeaSane

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[LunaSeaSane]

@Eriefire Thank you.

If we could only block everything that effectively... ;)

[slimmdogg420]

@LunaSeaSane You obviously do not know how revision3 makes money.

[LunaSeaSane]

@slimmdogg420 Yea, I only know about embedded immagery and suggestion tactics.

[vina55a]

@LunaSeaSane Install AdBlock Plus. That'll fix it.

[AZUREGLIDE]

Good interview.

Its sad nowadays you could never have a Throbbing Gristle.The "indie" bands now are so boring and safe that bands like TG and others punk/post punk seem from another planet.

Great post.

[tupelooo]

Youre just not looking hard enough. Theres tons of great and original experimental stuff doing the rounds these days and due to the internet its easier than ever to discover it. Example: Billy Bao

[molecularash]

@AZUREGLIDE tg was post punk before punk was invented

[aselfishimpulse]

@AZUREGLIDE I aboslutely disagree. It's true that TG and Genesis have pushed boundaries like none other, but under the surface of all these "indie" bands there is noise and power electronics which are as offense sonically as possible. People like Burning Star Core and Prurient still push the limits of what "music" is. If you dont agree, you're not digging deep enough.

[jocksilver7]

@AZUREGLIDE  EEEEEXACTLY!!!!!!!!

[mfsnakesmfplane]

@AZUREGLIDE

Merzbow?

[haileysvomit]

@AZUREGLIDE your so damn right , forward the revolution ...........

[csatimaci]

@AZUREGLIDE If you visit places like the ones were when early TG played in them, you will find really good bands today as well. Of course, there is no new Throbbing Gristle, but music is just different when the players accept their own ways of making it (instead of copying somebody else's style).

[jutubaeh]

@AZUREGLIDE a.n.w.o? it started with disco honestly folks... then came those french modestys lol...

[chaseroom]

@AZUREGLIDE listen to early animal collective

[chaseroom]

@AZUREGLIDE listen to early animal collective

early animal collective



[burkowitz]

@AZUREGLIDE look a little harder? TG got a lot of press but I think that initially came from their controversial artwork than their music. Since then there have been plenty of artists all over the world making challenging experimental music, however since it's not everyone's cup of tea, you won't find it unless you look in the right places.

[Rapchaid]

@AZUREGLIDE liars, health.... practically any prominently featured band in the Wire magazine

[stonily]

wich name dose the song have at 0:41

i just need to know that!

[sandmanbethere]

Godstar by Psychic TV

[stonily]

heya... thanks for that information ;)

[JANXDPDX]

excellent! thanks!

[tedzodd]

LOVE! What's going to happen next?