Mojave Cross

[hvnbndwarriorprinces]

The state is not confronting any religious group except the Christians.  Our president has made statements such as "this is not a Christian nation". Duh, Mr. President, read the history of the United State of America. Read the Constitution. Read the Decleration of Independence. God himself will have the final word.

[hvnbndwarriorprinces]

Just looked it up this is what it said: The term “separation of church and state” comes from a letter Thomas Jefferson sent to the Danbury Baptist (sic), to set their fears to rest regarding any government interference with their worship

[hvnbndwarriorprinces]

The reason for the separation of church and state has been misused. The reason for the separation was to protect the church from the state interfering with the church's rights. Read your history if you do not believe it. You can tear down everything about God but you still cannot touch Him and His love even for ;you his haters. They killed Jesus too didn't they? Would you have done the same?

[hvnbndwarriorprinces]

@hvnbndwarriorprinces I just did a search and found this is what it said regarding this subject:: The term “separation of church and state” comes from a letter Thomas Jefferson sent to the Danbury Baptist (sic), to set their fears to rest regarding any government interference with their worship

[Scarlet0Darkstar]

@hvnbndwarriorprinces yeah isn't it ironic that those very words are being used by the state to confront any religion. It isn't even involved with worship, just seemingly to keep people from gathering with any common belief in - anything. Just keep the people from getting together in anything that may unite them.

[mechanicalbu11]

folks it's time to fire the judges we have to many of them and they should find jobs in the private sector.

[intermediatespecies]

The veterans had every opportunity over the years to replace the cross with a non religious memorial. I am glad the thing is down, and I hope veterans groups respond by putting up a more appropriate memorial that has no religious connotations.

[mechanicalbu11]

@intermediatespecies

you are a heaping pile of shit but i do realize that shit has it's place. to bad the kind of world you desire is one of oppression and pain for all.

[intermediatespecies]

@mechanicalbu11

Eating excrement from a can is no way for you to pursue you life.

[ImDiscombobulated]

@intermediatespecies I bet you wouldn't have near as much gratitude if graffiti in your town were removed. Something you pass everyday as opposed to the middle of the desert. How many crosses were someone has died in an accident but this one takes the cake. lol you all are hilarious haters.

[intermediatespecies]

@ImDiscombobulated

I am not a hater, I just don't want religious symbols on public property. Church-State separation

[ImDiscombobulated]

@intermediatespecies Yes, you are a hater. To go out of your way to censor a cross in the middle of BFE as there are many crosses along the highways that go unscathed by the HATE people have for God that many died in His name to bring freedom to this nation.

It wasn't "state" recognized anyhow or endorsed by it. I bet you have less concern for items dumped in the desert. How much effort over this cross have you given in comparison? I am sure the priorities are hate over concern.

[tolbiny66]

The court has dishonored every veteran that ever served.

[contretemps81]

I love that America has many religions, and I believe in freedom -- but there is this thing called the Constitution that we have to protect.

[contretemps81]

"to see what the judge had done to our culture and beliefs..."

What culture is he referring to? This is AMERICA -- there are MANY cultures here, and we WELCOME them. The fact of it is that the government cannot appear to be endorsing a few culture's religion over others. When a cross sits on federal land and the government has excluded other religious symbols, then it has the appearance of endorsing Christianity. It's as simple as that. Put the cross on private land, and there's no issue.

[rmx01indiana]

@contretemps81 You're interpreting the 1st amendment wrong.

[contretemps81]

@rmx01indiana according to majority opinions, I am not.

[darken27]

Doesn't surprise me. The government has been taking away our freedom of speech since the day the constitution was written.

"Oh, here's a great idea! Lets offend people by putting some plywood over this cross, because it offends us! But it's ok, because we're the government. We've got the money and the power to do whatever the fuck we want! Woohoo!"

Don't you just love being ruled over by corrupt systems?

[sarahshevett]

I'd like to see a Star of David painted on that plywood...

[janetlw]

It's bad enough that we Americans, stole land from the Native American people. These people respectfully care for the land. Why, as Americans we now have to stand aside, on our land, to watch the demoralization of what we most believe it-Freedom. Men in my family are buried in gov't cemetery's-only to be mocked? Stop now, cowards

2 uncles and many friends are buried on goverment property. Better yet, send your own children to fight our wars. Cowards!!! Take this committee down to their knees.

[LesGomez]

Wow. I can't believe I never heard about this. This is a war memorial. What would the ruling have been if this was a Native American burial ground marker? What a tragedy.

[patton5276]

The complainer is against a cross on Govt Property?? Then what about the crosses that are on Veterans graves that are across the country?? They have crosses on the grave markers of Christians and the cemetary is Govt owned, isn't it ?? Will all Religious symbols be removed from all Veterans grave markers soon?? Liberal judges should spend some time in Veterans cemeteries.

[moodylucy]

Liberal judges should spend some time in military service before they can "judge" anyone or anything.

[primeobserver]

I've been forced into contempt of court with extreme prejudice!

Join a CIVILIAN club through your local school, buy a black dress and wooden hammer and rule as a despot!

Who are these punks? The radical ones in dresses and their radical foot soldiers in the ACLU.

Unique in our beautiful land, as a powerful force with no counterbalance!

Let's balance with names and lot's of photos. They are most certainly the minority, expose them, pinch them, push them, make the demented Nazis accountable!!!

[vrlpete]

anyone feeling the need to claim a 9th circuit appeals court decision as a justification for desecrating this veterans memorial needs to get a grip. when the disgusting behavior of the anti-america civil liberties communist movement stops, i'll consider their viewpoint, until then they're the enemy working from within to destroy. any arguments of them having any right to silence based on 'offense' is just a power play. since your offense is so sacrosanct, enjoy some of mine and lump it.

[default013]

Ridiculous. Consider the implications of what you say. I am also an atheist and when I see acts like this, I see atheists acting as if atheism is a religion.

Would you force someone to allow a cross near a star of david memorial? How about a cross on the holocaust gay memorial in Berlin? Just to be fair, let's put EVERY religious symbol at every memorial.

[hvnbndwarriorprinces]

@default013 To those that claim to be aetheist - If God is not real (in your opinion) they why are you so worried and waste so much time putting someone down that doesn't exist? Hmmmmm, doesn't make any sense does it?

[default013]

How about this; Lets just allow freedom of religion in the United States and leave the poor bastards alone.

People say they are "offended" by freedom of religion. Oh, how painful it must be for them, to have not been alive during WWI to raise an atheist memorial. Here's an idea; Join the military, fight in Afghanistan, come back, put up your own memorial.

[default013]

The Constitution - You mean this? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech"

I see no law being made here - except one that denies freedom of speech.

[hvnbndwarriorprinces]

@cvirtue Your not just atheist but sound like you are just plain evil.

[default013]

Out of all those who have died for our country, I'll bet you can find one or two who would prefer not to have an American flag covering their body. Guess we'd better start digging, wouldn't want to be offensive.

[Joybuzzard]

Uh, most atheists don't support this kind of stupidity, erasing a nation's history is just plain wrong. As an atheist, I opposed the Taliban's destruction of mountain-sized buddha carvings, and for the same reason I oppose taking down the mojave cross.

[avalonwitch]

I totally agree and I am agnostic. I believe in the preservation of our nation's history, and personally, I'm sick of the religious discrimination the Christians keep taking from the Jews. They deny Christians from putting a cross in front of the White House, for example, but last year put a two-storey high menorah on the Elipse last year. This double standard has got to stop. It's racist.

[JMcH]

Sick anti-Christian atheist jerks. They can't stand the sight of the cross because it reminds them that God exists and that there will be an ultimate accounting for their deeds both right and wrong. Don't be surprised if within the next 50 years, churches are forced underground in this country.

[ExZonie]

D@mn the Atheist Communist Litigators Unionists.

[kevmobile]

Thanks for telling us about this