@sonnyjims1 if it "creaks" it may have corrosion/rough spots in cylinder wall and or piston seal "rings" damage. If the rings and bore are good the only ther thing I can think of is if there is trash under the check valves. The checks are in the bottom so any rust/debris would settle there. Last thought, the coupling between motor and pump impeller is goo? not work or slipping?
@sonnyjims1 I am going to remove the unit and strip it on the bench... well I would if I could get the pin out of the rod.. 2 cans of WD40 !! still not moving.. Salt water is a killer.
I have the same problem on my Johsnon outboard but can't seem to get the pin that runs through the tilt rod off so I can remove the assembly...did you have any issues with this?
@1110Miami YES IT IS A PAIN IN THE ASS. Mine was frozen in place also. All attempts to drive it out or use a puller failed. I had to drill it hollow and finally use a ball joint press and some drifts to get it out. My advise is force it out with a ball joint press or drill it out and you will probably ruin it to get it out and buy or machine a new pin. Good luck.
@1110Miami glad to hear it. i am care full to wash after salt water use, but that pin is near impossible to remove. OMC gets A+ for great 2 cylinder 2 stoke engine, but pin on tilt and trim is a bad design. glad you had success. regards.
Did you have to press the up button WHILE filling it? I bought the kit as well, but it seems no matter how much oil I put, it does't want to lift. Any tips?
@bayoulancom Yes. run motor up while adding fluid. You may need to have a helper manually lift up, but shouldn't. I you still have difficulty make sure there is no trash under the check valves in bottom of cylinder and they have some spring and are pliable. My seal kit did not have the checks, only seals. Also make sure the bypass screw is not emabled. If the bypass screw is out it diverts fluid and it must be in normally "in" closed position. your motor is coupled to pump correct? Best of luck.
I have a 60hp Evinrude that has a hard time engaging. Can barely hear it when you first press thr trim buttons but then finally starts working after like 20 seconds or so. Any suggestions?
@Mrshabadoo2 I'd say 1st check fluid level. Make sure its full with trim fluid or some people use ATF. 2nd have an assistant activate the trim switch on your throttle- can you hear the electric motor operating? if not perhaps switch is bad or wiring.. 3rd if motor works good and switch works and fluid level is good, I could only assume pump ch]eck valves have debris, motor to pump coupling is worn out, or other issue. Best of luck. these are not too bad to work on once you pull apart off motor
man i looked and looked for info on how to do this and i got the same system i will try this and see if i can get mine bleed. thanks might be back if i got a question.
@liv4daoutdoors same here. I guess there is no instruction/info because it so simple. The trick is fill it up and run it up , but to get it totally full I had to run it up and KEEP ADDING tilt trim fluid. Best of luck w/ your trim unit.
@1fishdreamer- disregard the allen plug on the side. It is installed to block the fluid passages after boring and you don't need it out to take the cylinder apart. The top of the cylinder unscrews just like you'd expect. it regular right hand thred. The trick it to get a spanner or pin wrench that will fit or I had to make one. unscrew the cylinder top 'cap' and the piston and shaft come out the top. be careful of the check valves and don't loose the drive mechanism.. Then its just seals.
I have to fix the seals on my 40 evinrude, I wish I would,ve seen how you took the cylinder a part, There is a allen volt on the side of cylinder do that have to come out b4 the top of the cylinder or no? I try taking it out anded up with only 3 allen keys broken and 1 sears allen socket. so any help will help. Thanks
a lot of outboard mechanics and shops are using transmission fluid instead of trim fluid. it works ok, but transmission ATF is made for transmission valve body, clutches and torque converter service. I prefer trim fliud, its guaranteed good with seals, o rings and cost really no more. Just my opinion.
@ljalaska add tilt/trim fluid in the fill hole till its full. Then run the trim up and keep adding trim fuild until the motor is all the way up, You should hear the motor change pitch to a 'whine' when all the way up. Cycle it a few times to purge air. the trick is to trim motor up WHILE adding fluid to displace & purge air with trim fluid. once its run fully up and you can't add any more fluid because its totally full, screw in fill plug and you are done. Go enjoy some tittys and beer.
Great video... was going to buy a new pump for my 60 VRO Didn't know it was self bleeding, I thought the pump had gone.
It costs a fortune keep getting parts sent over to England from the USA.
My tilt / trim creaks when it is used... Low oil ? Anybody got any ideas?
sonnyjims1 4 months ago
@sonnyjims1 if it "creaks" it may have corrosion/rough spots in cylinder wall and or piston seal "rings" damage. If the rings and bore are good the only ther thing I can think of is if there is trash under the check valves. The checks are in the bottom so any rust/debris would settle there. Last thought, the coupling between motor and pump impeller is goo? not work or slipping?
good luck.
SWD2263 4 months ago
@sonnyjims1 I am going to remove the unit and strip it on the bench... well I would if I could get the pin out of the rod.. 2 cans of WD40 !! still not moving.. Salt water is a killer.
Thanks for your ideas
sonnyjims1 4 months ago
I have the same problem on my Johsnon outboard but can't seem to get the pin that runs through the tilt rod off so I can remove the assembly...did you have any issues with this?
1110Miami 4 months ago
@1110Miami YES IT IS A PAIN IN THE ASS. Mine was frozen in place also. All attempts to drive it out or use a puller failed. I had to drill it hollow and finally use a ball joint press and some drifts to get it out. My advise is force it out with a ball joint press or drill it out and you will probably ruin it to get it out and buy or machine a new pin. Good luck.
SWD2263 4 months ago
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1110Miami 4 months ago
Did what you told me and FINALLY got the pin off. Thanks so much, I was starting to go nuts!!! Hope to be back in the water soon :)
1110Miami 4 months ago
@1110Miami glad to hear it. i am care full to wash after salt water use, but that pin is near impossible to remove. OMC gets A+ for great 2 cylinder 2 stoke engine, but pin on tilt and trim is a bad design. glad you had success. regards.
SWD2263 4 months ago
Did you have to press the up button WHILE filling it? I bought the kit as well, but it seems no matter how much oil I put, it does't want to lift. Any tips?
bayoulancom 6 months ago
@bayoulancom Yes. run motor up while adding fluid. You may need to have a helper manually lift up, but shouldn't. I you still have difficulty make sure there is no trash under the check valves in bottom of cylinder and they have some spring and are pliable. My seal kit did not have the checks, only seals. Also make sure the bypass screw is not emabled. If the bypass screw is out it diverts fluid and it must be in normally "in" closed position. your motor is coupled to pump correct? Best of luck.
SWD2263 6 months ago
I have a 60hp Evinrude that has a hard time engaging. Can barely hear it when you first press thr trim buttons but then finally starts working after like 20 seconds or so. Any suggestions?
Mrshabadoo2 9 months ago
@Mrshabadoo2 I'd say 1st check fluid level. Make sure its full with trim fluid or some people use ATF. 2nd have an assistant activate the trim switch on your throttle- can you hear the electric motor operating? if not perhaps switch is bad or wiring.. 3rd if motor works good and switch works and fluid level is good, I could only assume pump ch]eck valves have debris, motor to pump coupling is worn out, or other issue. Best of luck. these are not too bad to work on once you pull apart off motor
SWD2263 9 months ago
man i looked and looked for info on how to do this and i got the same system i will try this and see if i can get mine bleed. thanks might be back if i got a question.
liv4daoutdoors 1 year ago
@liv4daoutdoors same here. I guess there is no instruction/info because it so simple. The trick is fill it up and run it up , but to get it totally full I had to run it up and KEEP ADDING tilt trim fluid. Best of luck w/ your trim unit.
SWD2263 1 year ago
@1fishdreamer- disregard the allen plug on the side. It is installed to block the fluid passages after boring and you don't need it out to take the cylinder apart. The top of the cylinder unscrews just like you'd expect. it regular right hand thred. The trick it to get a spanner or pin wrench that will fit or I had to make one. unscrew the cylinder top 'cap' and the piston and shaft come out the top. be careful of the check valves and don't loose the drive mechanism.. Then its just seals.
SWD2263 1 year ago
I have to fix the seals on my 40 evinrude, I wish I would,ve seen how you took the cylinder a part, There is a allen volt on the side of cylinder do that have to come out b4 the top of the cylinder or no? I try taking it out anded up with only 3 allen keys broken and 1 sears allen socket. so any help will help. Thanks
1fishdreamer 1 year ago
a lot of outboard mechanics and shops are using transmission fluid instead of trim fluid. it works ok, but transmission ATF is made for transmission valve body, clutches and torque converter service. I prefer trim fliud, its guaranteed good with seals, o rings and cost really no more. Just my opinion.
SWD2263 1 year ago
@ljalaska add tilt/trim fluid in the fill hole till its full. Then run the trim up and keep adding trim fuild until the motor is all the way up, You should hear the motor change pitch to a 'whine' when all the way up. Cycle it a few times to purge air. the trick is to trim motor up WHILE adding fluid to displace & purge air with trim fluid. once its run fully up and you can't add any more fluid because its totally full, screw in fill plug and you are done. Go enjoy some tittys and beer.
SWD2263 1 year ago
nice vid! so when filling and running it up.and down to bleed do you leave the screw plug out to burp it too? then refill and do it again ect?
ljalaska 1 year ago