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  • not the same without slash but its the best axls made without slash

  • this is the first time i have heard the song chinese democracy.

    to be honest, its got an interesting sound and can get catchy after a while. i was expecting it to be less than good, but i was somewhat surprised.  however, its not something i would go out of my way to buy on itunes or amazon.

  • this is the unfinish recording of the song

  • Why does Youtube take my videos down with CD music, and not this?

  • omfg this ablum is shit the old ablums are better :)

  • chinese democracy is great.

    if you hate it so much what are you doing here?

  • it's grat man.. the old albums are better but this is good.

  • i love this song!!

  • es una cagada !

  • comoe mucha mierda!!!

  • when I listen to this I actually notice how bad the youtube sound quality really is - compared to CD it sounds like shit....

  • i agree. youtube doesnt do these songs justice. the sound is dense and you need to hear them on CD to get the full effect.

    that is even more true for those songs off Chinese Democracy that have an orchestral score like There Was a Time and Street of Dreams etc.

  • that is true for any kind of music...the compression destroys the music. well maybe it is not that audible with hip hop but it sucks there, too...

  • yeah it hurts all forms of music but Chinese Democracy particularly is hurt by it because it is a remarkably layered album with upto 5 different guitar tracks on the same song along with other effects besides complex orchestral symphonies on some songs.

  • Well we can all agree this is on eawesome song. I like the old Guns n Roses but this isn't bad but different...rite.

  • No, sorry, we can't agree that this song is "awesome." I was thinking of a word with "aw" in it though for sure. So we can agree on that if you prefer.

  • I like this song but most of the other stuff on the new album is kind of terrible

  • its obvious that you havent actually listened to the album. nobody can call songs like Street of Dreams, There Was a Time, IRS, Madagascar "terrible".

  • Exactly. If anything, Street of Dreams is worth getting the album alone. That song is a masterpiece.

  • i miss the old GNR now i consider it just axl

  • this music will never compare to the old guns n roses but it is not bad i enjoy listening but nothing will ever touch the deep feeling of the olg gnr NOTHING!

  • its good but 15 yrs for this i think it would have been better under another band instead of guns n roses

  • why? would the music change if the name was different?

  • axl's still got his awesome voice! stop hatin' on him. this album is awesome!

  • I don't get why people say the new Guns N' Roses is bad or terrible or any other words they may use for it, but I honestly think with/without Slash and their other old members they still sound great. And I believe their style hasn't changed MUCH either. Some of their songs, yes, but they still made songs with the same style on this album.

  • Well IMO the new G N R sucks and they shouldn´t even be called Guns and roses when it´s not with the original band members. Just my opinion.

  • Then I could say it shouldn't have been called Guns n' Roses when Tracii Guns quit.

  • The original band member was Tracii Guns. So by your logic, the name should have changed when Tracii quit. The name is GUNS ans ROSES. Tracii Guns, Axl Rose. Funny how Slash isn't anywhere in that name.

  • Yeah whatever. I just don´t like the new Guns and roses.

  • this was a wonderful album, wasn't worth the 14 year wait, but it is one of there best albums

  • where's gone SLASH???only axle in the new band?

  • Yeah they shouldn´t be called guns and roses.

  • it doesnt sound like the real GNR : ' (

  • amen

    old gnr is my favorite band (not this new bullshit band)

  • Thankk youuuu!

    old Gnr wipes the floor with the new gnr (:

  • Thats what almost everyone thinks, Old GNR was classic.

  • the new guns isn´t so good but this song it´s very cool!!!

  • itunes says i've listened to this album over 500 times, still just as fantastic and epic as the first time,

  • i fucking love guns n roses <3.

  • so do i old or new they fuking rock

  • All you say Axl killed gnr are fucked. I loved Slash, but he left. They had diffrences. And to be honest, I like this album as much as there old stuff. Axls voice matured more, but with the music they make it sounds good. There songs have alot of meaning, and the guitar is really awsome too. It's not slash, but it's fun and complex in it's own way. Guns N roses isn't ruined, it's just new. If you honestly the new songs ruined gnr, you are lieng to yourself

  • Wow, somebody actually agrees with my opinion.

    Couldn't have said it better myself.

  • wow this is shit compared to the 80's90's GNR

  • wth is this????!

  • This is the only song I like off the new album. They aren't the same anymore.

  • This isn't Guns 'N' Roses. This is a bitter disappointment in every way. This is Axl Rose and "various artists." Axl killed Guns and now we all have to suffer this insufferable album. Listen to any song on Appetite for Destruction, then listen to Madagascar on Chinese Democracy and look me in the eye and tell me that this is good music. This is garbage and I personally will never forgive Axl for killing one of the best bands to exist within the last 30 years.

  • first of all... who cares? second... you're a brainwashed moron.. you really believe everything they tell you? you're pathetic... you really believe axl killed gnr? i feel sorry for you. money killed gnr... face it.

  • Brainwashed? What the hell are you talking about? It says that on the cover of the album I wasted my money on. I watched the band growing up and Axl has always had a selfish history. Once he even called off a concert minutes before it began because he simply "didn't feel well." Hundreds of people were out tens of thousands of total dollars because Axl is little more than a spoiled child.

  • not working when youre ill is a basic human right. as for axl's "selfishness", he actually let izzy and duff sing lead on a few songs off UYI and TSI. no way did he try to hoard the glory for himself.

  • The point I was making was that he put his own temporary comfort before his fans. Any respectable person would see just what everyone who had attended had spent, and made the minimal personal sacrifice to ensure that those fans weren't in essence cheated out of their money.

  • "temporary comfort"? like i said not working when you're ill is a basic human right. his illness is not an "insult" to anybody else.

    i doubt that you didnt receive your money back if the show was cancelled because that would have lead to lawsuits.

  • Shut up, Axl didn't kill GNR. Axl and Slash had differences, so Slash left. End of story. Both band moved on and are doing there own things now.

    Go listen to Street of Dreams, This I Love, and Sorry and tell me that the album is bad.

  • This album is bad.

  • But Axl's extraordinarily childish behavior drove off the rest of the band as well. Not just Slash. I wouldn't be quite so adamant in the belief that Axl killed the band if Axl's voice were anywhere near as great as it used to be, or if this album wasn't absolute garbage. Unfortunately, neither is true and Guns 'N' Roses ended their final chapter with this disgustingly bad album.

  • are they making another abulm

  • you are producing nothing but hyperbole coming out of blind hatred along with completelyinaccurate statements.

    singers who sing in axl's kind of range tend to damage their voice with time but axl still has remarkable range and is still a very good singer. Chinese Democracy is an excellent album with many well crafted and moving songs. just because its different from the old GNR doesnt make it bad- its the natural evolution from Use Your Illusions.

  • the history you construct is convenient to you perhaps but quite untrue.

    axl didnt "drive" everybody out. steven was fired by the whole band including slash. izzy quit for many reasons including his unease with fame & slash & duff's substance abuse while he was trying to stay clean. slash quit in 96 & hasnt been able to keep a frontman around in any of his ventures. he has been in 3 bands (GNR, snakepit and Velvet Revolver) and each time he has fallen out with his frontman and blamed them.

  • It seems to be more than simple coincidence however, that whatever band Slash joins instantly becomes unrecognizably better.

  • GNR was the only band that slash joined later- snakepit and Velvet Revolver were HIS bands that he started. he hand-picked the frontman both times and then publicly insulted them later after fueding with them always refusing any blame for himself of course.

    read his latest Classic Rock interview comparing Scott Weiland to george bush and saying that he couldnt wait till scott was gone.

    as for "unrecognizably better", both snakepit and VR were unimpressive and generic to me.

  • I miss slash and the rest of the crew

  • well, this song and shacklers revenge are great songs. as for the rest on this album, ehhhhh. :P

  • have you tried listening to There Was a Time and Sorry? those songs are masterpieces.

  • axel roses's vocals are no where near as good as they used to be

  • Diavlodave363 what a waste of life

  • ur a fucking idiot he is right...they sold out

  • this album was horrible, like this was actually pretty decent and is actually quite enjoyable but the rest is just shit

    i burned it

  • Dont burn send it to brazil... here this costs 50 dolares...is totally sold out...

  • why ??

  • Far more "better" then v r ! HEEE HEE HEE

  • This is no longer the raw rock music that Axl used to deliver us. It's still good but nothing compared with the old days... oh well, better this than nothing, right?

  • such an amazing song to say the least

  • wow, its the best!

    Kristy

  • to much techno pop shit. and its bad when he tries to start yelling. his voice is going fast. loses half the band then his voice. the only thing thats working for him is the band name hahahahahahaha!!

  • electronic touches dont make a song "techno" or "pop".

    his voice is great on this song and was generally good during the 06-07 tour.

    as for the band name he has every right to use it since he owns the name.

    as for losing half the band etc, most members of new GNR have held steady for close to a decade. much better record than slash has with his frontmen.

  • I totally agree with you! I see a lot of comments from you and ya know your stuff on gnr. What do think of dj ashba joining gnr and replacing robin fink. Also I l love the cd and hope he will tour soon!

  • thanks. :) im dying for a tour too.

    since robin finck wanted to return to NIN there was no choice but to find a replacement. ashba seems to play old school hard rock which is a great fit for GNR's straight-on rock side.

  • if they were "touches" id so agree with you but its basicly most of the song.

    lol you can hear his voice is killing him its nothing like it used to be. the years are hard on him but thats nobody's fault. well kinda his lol

    i didnt say he had no right to use it tho, just saying. and just wondering, how many guitarists have they had since the band break up?

  • its quite obvious that you havent bothered to listen to the album as youre in such a rush to make prejudiced judgments. this is a demo and the final version is slightly difefrent and most of the song is most definitely NOT techno or pop by any stretch of the imagination.

    your exaggerations are verging on absurdity. his voice is "nothing" like it used to be? review after review has talked about how classically axl he sounds on this song.

  • how is it axl's "fault" that one's voice changes with age? i'd love to hear your wisdom on that.

    you seem to be bitter over axl owning the GNR name. he got it through the clearest legal means with slash & duff's consent. so what exactly is the problem?

    like i said most GNR members have been steady for a decade or so. axl's association with robin finck who has now left to rejoin NIN lasted about 12 years. slash hasnt been able to make it half that long with any frontman since axl.

  • Exactly i agree 100%

  • waw

  • fuck what yall think GNR is the fucking best old or not... soo stop hateing and start fucking appreciating.

    dammit ppl chillll

  • hey, i like this, song, but i have to say, i really do, that,, in my mind it isn't gun's and roses without the sound of slash's guitar.

  • The old Guns?n Roses are BETTER

  • the best of GUNS'N'ROSES ...

  • ok look, this verson of better isnt the studio verson that is on Chi Dem.

    THIS IS A DEMO!!!!!!!!!!

    So dont say it sucks cuz all demos suck. all songs have to be tweaked a little before theyre hits.

    And if u dont believe me, compare the Back in black demo to the studio verson:)

  • SUENA DIFERENTE A LA VERSIONDE L ALBUM

  • axl kicks ass

  • YOU FAIL!

  • este es el unico video d chinese democrasy q no han sensurado

  • true, i really think he was influece by tret reznor , after all all those years of being off, i think axl was listening to lots of diffrent music and you can almost hear the 90's and 2000s influence thorugh out the entire album

  • I like this! No question that it's a great album but I think he should change the Bands name.That way people aren't gonna be listening to this with Old GnR in mind.

  • this song is the best of the album

  • in my opinion..

  • Is it the best ? Really ? So I don't think this is a good album...

  • So many Gr8 Tracks on this Album, LOUD damn fantastic, Axls Vocals are Mind blowing

  • this isn't album version...?

  • Oh, and Buckethead sweep picking throughout the song, that just kicks so much ass. That guy can shred.

  • Sounds like Axl was influenced by Trent Reznor. Which is good.

  • badass song reminds me of my life

  • Industrial is a perfect fit for Axl.

  • Dude, Buckethead is featured in this song, and he's awesome!  He makes this songs hotter than it already was. Though, I still wish Slash and Axl Rose would grill whatever's between them and stop being such babies! Bring back old GNR!

  • This song is awesome, but it just doesn't sound like Guns N' Roses. They've gone and changed their sound so much.

  • youve gotto listen to the whole album. there's plenty of songs that sound like old GNR. try This I Love, There Was a Time, IRS, Street of Dreams.

    they couldnt come back after so many years and act as if its still 1987. so there's new experimentation too and Better is an example of that.

  • I agree this new album is fab

  • U r so rite

  • yeah no shit its been how many years? i'm sorry he didn't re-make appetite for you :(

  • Does anyone know what he's doin to get that effect with the guitar? Is it a wah?

  • essa musica é foda! Muito boa!

  • i like this song its awesome

  • yeah too bad he no t with slash:(

    but bucket head still kicks ass

  • i actually really like this album, its nothing like appetite for destruction, but the same old shit gets boring. think they did quite well, though it took forever lol

  • trop bien cette chanson < 3

  • oui oui

  • it is guns n' roses it's the new album

  • Why does everybody think this isnt from GnR??? This GnR.. u can go look on iTunes if u dont believe it and the signer is axel rose so far.. id recognize tht voice anytime...

  • To be honest, this doesn't sound like Guns N' Roses, but this is a very very good song.

  • it sounds just like axl rose, what's wrong with you.

  • i usually dont listen to guns n roses but this song kicks major ass!!!!

    bfmv <3

    guns n roses <3

  • is this seriously guns n roses?

  • this isnt made by GNR

  • yeah its in their new album where have u been the last year and 1 half? It's in Chinese Democracy

  • listening to this song, is like listening to a buckethead song with crappy vocals. sorry, gnr fans, but come on...

  • i like this Song. It's a pretty awesome song. But like,It just doesn't scream Guns N roses to me.

  • favorite out of the album

    and btw, SLASH IS NOT GNR!!!!

  • no shit?

  • nor is axl, i like the album but he shold have had the balls to call it what it is, an axl rose solo album

  • why is it an axl rose solo album?

    13 out of the 14 songs are co-written with the other band members. their song-writing is an essential part of the album. tommy stinson, chris pittman and dizzy reed have been in the band longer than the original members were. brain mantia, richard fortus have been in GNR for 8 years.

    just because slash and duff arent in the band doesnt mean that it isnt a band.

  • Velvet Revolver is the new GNR

  • This album is amazing---of course the older stuff rocks, but this really sucked me back into a huge G n R Fan

  • 3:40 fucking awesome solo

  • GNR is not GNR without Slash!!!!

  • agreed, chinese democracy was a decent disc but sounds entirely too over produced compared to the old slash n duff gnr.

  • Dont need slash he is gud by himself

  • favorite part is 3:20

  • awesome ...

  • wow axel fell off i give him it thou, he his still kickin in it, he refuses to be a has been i like that

  • What if Buckethead joined GNR?

  • he actually did

  • is he not?

  • is not the same....he want to say...but legaly...is guns n roses axl buy the band when they separate...and que do what he wants to the band...but is still guns n roses...but with other style..i like the other one

  • he did. from 2000 to 04 i believe. recorded a lot of the guitar on this album as well. axl went through like 4 or 5 lead guitarists during the time it took to create chinese democracy.

  • talking about bukcethead, right? buckethead influenced alot in this album IMO.

  • I'm not a GnR fan, but Buckethead's guitar playing makes me love it. I like Axl's singing in this song better than any of their old stuff. I'm not a big fan of Axl's voice, I like more along the lines of Bruce Dickinson and Tom Araya, but overall good song.

  • Exactly what i was thinking man.

  • best song on whole album

  • for the most part, i do not like chinese democracy. but buckethead just makes me love this song.

  • this song, btw, is incredible. Only great rock in this day n age, in my opinion. :) Rock on gunners

  • its a good song but its one of the only on this album. that and chinese democracy. but when axl starts screaming in this i lose a little interest.

  • I really like the new GNR, think it kicks ass.

  • The song "Sorry" is imho among one of the best gnr songs out of all time. And there are some few other standout songs, that is among some of UYI I-II stuff. But in the long run chinese democracy fails to deliver. Im sorry, but its not getting any close to AFD ofc, and the Ilussions, imo sorry. Said by a longtime gnr fan^^

  • I don't know what people are talking about, but this is an excellent song!

  • gnr isnt gnr anymore

    SORRY

  • I hear you.

  • Yeah they r u just aint listerning

  • Buckethead is a beast. And I cant wait to see what Bumblefoot does on the next album, as well as Ashba, should be interesting.

  • considering axl took 12 years and went through god knows how many musicians to make chinese democracy, i wouldnt be too surprised when you dont see any of the same names on the next album.

  • well, this album was released in china in 2006 so I doubt there will ever be a new album.

  • 3 saddest days in Rock N Roll. Slash leaves Guns N Roses, Kurt Cobain's suicide, and John Bonham's death

  • The only things I would add would be Cliff Burton's death, and Bon Scott's death

    Long live rock n roll \m/

  • ....John Lennon

  • Gars Samuelson as well

  • if slash was still in the group he would tore this song up

  • song kicks major ass ACDC licks balls compared to GNR

  • I love G N R, but they were nothing compared to AC/DC

  • Is there an official music vidio for the this song??

  • haha ask that to a hardcore GNR fan an your opening a big bag of worms.

    Axl said about 10 months ago on a gnr forum that the video is 'two weeks ago', two months later..NOTHING

  • *****

  • ya. the solo during the verse at 3:40 is the best part of the entire song in my opinion.

  • 3:40

    Tasty as F**k!!

  • bon scott rules!! man the 3 sadest days in rock nroll 93- guns n roses broke up 85 -david lee roth left van halen and 80- the death of bon scott!!

  • I like many rock bands but I will never understand what's so great about AC/DC.

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