The Doctor Who producers just don't make episodes like this anymore! In my opinion, 'The End of Time' along with 'The Stolen Earth/Journey's End' was the peak of Doctor Who awesomeness. The acting, the story, the tension, everything was just... "SPECTACULAR!" to quote the Master. Ever since David Tennant left, the acting, the characters and everything went downhill. David Tennant, John Simm, Bernard Cribbins and Timothy Dalton FOR THE WIN!!!! Four fantastic actors.
Oh, no! The TARDIS is buried under loads of snow so the Doctor can't go in there to regenerate and visit all his companions and stuff. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Best episode. Master turns good, gains revenge on Rassilon, saves the Doctor in the process... And then series 5 came.
What the hell happened? No more epic finales? No more brilliant episodes? Moffat has ruined DW and if RTD was writing for Smith it would be amazing. It sucks now, completely convaluted plots, and deaths every five minutes. Plus the whole River Song thing was overplayed.
@cybersunday07 RTD wrote stories which suited children more than families. Moffat writes things that people actually think about. Russel T Davies's good stories in his time were written by Steven Moffat. The Empty Child/Doctor Dances. The Girl In The Fireplace. Blink. Time Crash. Silence In The Library/Forest Of The Dead = Steven Moffat. Those episodes were the best of their series. Love and Monsters = RTD.
And anyway, Moffat declined Hollywood twice for Doctor Who, so you can't criticise him.
@Luxayan End Of Time was one of the childish ones. Why did everyone randomly have bad dreams? Why did Wilfred remember? Why didn't Donna remember? Why didn't Donna change if she had bad dreams? Why did she have bad dreams too?
@doctorwho786 - Moffat is a good writer, but his plots are way-overacted. If he'd invite me to write an episode for the series I'd gladly write something phenomenal. You know, without the constant deaths of characters every five episodes. You do realise the Doctor has died five times in two series, right? He died in part 1 of series 6 twice (including flesh-version) and three times in the second half of the series. Rory's died four times and Amy's died twice.
@Luxayan I'd say Moffat, mainly because he knows how to write, but lacks a good story. So RTD is better at the story part, Moffat is better at the writing part.
@cybersunday07 Yep, I agree with you on the whole overacted plot thing. It seems like too much is happening to the Tardis team itself (a bit like a soap opera). I like it better when the main focus is on travelling and having crazy adventures, with personal stuff on the side.
RTD is my fave writer, but both of them are very talented. It's just a question of taste. :
Loved this episode. I think this and The Waters of Mars were the best episodes for Doctor Who with David. The scripting wasn't as good for most of the other episodes.
I think the entire point of Season 4 and the Specials was to break the Tenth Doctor, take away everything he had and drive him insane. Then when he became 11, 11 would go back to his alien, time lord roots. 10 became too human, so they had to break him to make him go back to alien
@RichFullert Matt Smith a kickass doctor. Too attatched to DT. But u only say matt's shit whihc infact he is one of the best doctors, but u only says hes bad coz of DT. Give him a chance and if u hate him. Have good reasons you NOB!
The dramatic scale Doctor Who has reached since it's return is phenomonal! I'll admit i'm liking the dialogue in the latest series (feels more like old school DW) but I salute you Russel T Davis and both Chris E and David T, you revived it brilliantly!!
@shepja87 nah RTD is a dick at writing. He always plays it safe and never changes and its just the same repetetive shit. He actually called the show and DRAMA and made it melodramatic! Steven Moffat is going back old school, darker and breaking boundaries. The Almost peple cliffhanger will be like: HOLLLLLLLLLYYYY SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT and den ep 7 will be like: HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT!
@Smallvillenerd I wouldn't say he kept stories the same, what got me bout his writing was how companions look up to the doctor, series 1-4 was bum kiss o'clock for all the companions. DT's doctor also became a bit of a know it all and a goofy, not eccentric. Also RTD tugged at your heart one minute, then put in an idiotic comedy sequence like at the beginning of Love & Monsters, you ask to chuckle brothers to do what they did and they'd have more self respect
does anybody know the name of the music that starts to play when wilf starts to cry i want that to be played at my funeral RIP 10th Doctor (a.k.a) David Tennant whom we all have a secret crush on
@AlternateTimelineGuy The music up until 0:21 is The Doctor's Theme [series 4]. Then it changes into something else, I think it may ba a variation of one songs used in special.
It's been a year since we've said goodbye to Ten :( I miss him.
I loved it so much ... the Doctor had become so bitter towards the end, so powerful, and so terrible ... he was so sad, and it was so sad to watch him. What he became without a companion, what he turned to when he knew he was going to die.
But don't worry Doctor ... we will sing you to your sleep ... :')
@robertcasey97 Me too. Sadly, that's unlikely, especially since Steven Moffat the current Producer sees no place for them on the show. But never fear, the Master will return. He always does. Other recurring Time Lords from the past include Romana, the Meddling Monk, the Rani and Omega. I think they'll all return eventually as well. Not to mention the Doctor's daughter, Jenny. Plus there's a new character called Idris introduced next series. She's rumoured to be a Time Lady.
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@getdrinking shut the hell up! David Tennant is amazing, and that was some of the best acting I've seen him do!
I never cry at movies or TV (except Marley and Me cuz I have a yellow lab), but I spent that whole 40 minutes crying my eyes out. David was my first Doctor; I saw him in Fires of Pompeii during my Latin class, and I absolutely adore him. Don't hate! If you didn't like it go watch the 9th Doctor... Never liked him...
Exaclty, The End Of Time Part 2 Ending was too sad. Now that is what i call a good ending for a Good Doctor. Matt Smith will probaly just have the same way at the 9th Doctor lol.
@Luxayan Fuck you! DT's leaving was like: Who the shit cares about you wimping about dying. Get on with it! You only hate Matt becoz of DT. Give him a chance. He's actually really good you Prick!
@Luxayan it's all a matter of opinion and i think you're just a tennant fanboy who watched his dr who and bagged the rest of the show. Matt Smith is relly nailing thejob and when i watched DT sometimes he was so annoying i felt embarrased to watch the show. Anyway DT got a bad end, End of Time were shit two parters and didn't do good for DT
yeah, but I hope its someone good. i also want to see a multi-doctor episode at some point, and a new regeneration sequence, preferably one outside of the TARDIS so that something goes wrong with it. would be interesting to see imo ^^
i don't cry at anything ever...but at the end of the second part when the doctor says " i don't want to go! i nearly burst into tears shouting neither do i !!!!!!!!...XD it wont be the same without DT...
longest death scene ever... christ! we knew he was going to die just get on with it and not have 30 minutes of tennant staring at people from a distance.
hehe yeh cribbins manning the laser looks the best thing about it. I love Doc who from Hartnells era but these two specials, the end of time, have so far been shiiit :P the master is a crap villain and the time lords are a piffling race. WE WANT MONSTERS hehe
I am so looking forward to Jan 1 it is going to be so sad. Yet, I am happy that we will have regular Dr. Who. This year has been a long one with only 5 episodes.
Perhaps beacause it is a TIME war it is constantly happening all the time and it is acctually ''the end of the time war''
it won't be the first time the time lords have been bad, they put the doc on trial twice, once causinng him to regenerate. There have been bad timelords like the master and the rani but the timelords were generally peaceful, but leading up to the time war and being invaded by sontarens ect they have become more hostile.
Well that time when they put him on trial was a purely bureaucratic decision. The time lords have a strict non-interference policy which the Doctor has violated (and continues to violate) time and again. It's like stealing from the rich to give to the poor. Even though you are doing a good thing you're still breaking the law. So it's not that the time lords are evil but rather they would be more of a Lawful Neutral nature always conforming to strict codes of conduct.
the doctor has been bad...look at the waters of mars; just the most recent example of his interfering with a fixed point in time. It might have had a ripple effect on future events beyond simply rewriting the small details of earth's venture into space after Adelaide died.
The Doctor Who producers just don't make episodes like this anymore! In my opinion, 'The End of Time' along with 'The Stolen Earth/Journey's End' was the peak of Doctor Who awesomeness. The acting, the story, the tension, everything was just... "SPECTACULAR!" to quote the Master. Ever since David Tennant left, the acting, the characters and everything went downhill. David Tennant, John Simm, Bernard Cribbins and Timothy Dalton FOR THE WIN!!!! Four fantastic actors.
JamesHolman1000 1 month ago
JAMES BOND IS A TIME LORD!?
legolover2781 1 month ago
As a new fan, this special was actually the first regeneration I've ever seen on the show.
PikalaxALT 2 months ago
One person did not vote: FOR VICTORY FOR GALLIFREY FOR THE END OF TIME ITSELF
Poor bastard will now be forced in the weeping angel stance for the rest of eternity
galanopouloc 2 months ago
@galanopouloc 2 people
Jakezing 1 month ago
Oh, no! The TARDIS is buried under loads of snow so the Doctor can't go in there to regenerate and visit all his companions and stuff. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
45doctorwho 2 months ago
Need the music.. NOW! :(
WhovianTrailers 2 months ago
the end of time part 1 and 2 were great and i can't count how many times iv watched it
RichFullert 3 months ago
Bring back the Time Lords in season 7?
TheDFB71 3 months ago
The end of Russell T Davies tenure.....In retrospect, what an era it was.
Kaagh178 3 months ago
Although I prefer Tom Baker, Tenant does seem to be able to fall from higher places and survive.
ultrapersonthing 4 months ago 2
Aws I have suspected since the frist time I saw George Lazenby, James Bond is a time lord.
tlwolf86 4 months ago
Best episode. Master turns good, gains revenge on Rassilon, saves the Doctor in the process... And then series 5 came.
What the hell happened? No more epic finales? No more brilliant episodes? Moffat has ruined DW and if RTD was writing for Smith it would be amazing. It sucks now, completely convaluted plots, and deaths every five minutes. Plus the whole River Song thing was overplayed.
cybersunday07 4 months ago
@cybersunday07 RTD wrote stories which suited children more than families. Moffat writes things that people actually think about. Russel T Davies's good stories in his time were written by Steven Moffat. The Empty Child/Doctor Dances. The Girl In The Fireplace. Blink. Time Crash. Silence In The Library/Forest Of The Dead = Steven Moffat. Those episodes were the best of their series. Love and Monsters = RTD.
And anyway, Moffat declined Hollywood twice for Doctor Who, so you can't criticise him.
doctorwho786 4 months ago
@doctorwho786
The Waters of Mars, The End of Time = RTD
Luxayan 4 months ago
@Luxayan End Of Time was one of the childish ones. Why did everyone randomly have bad dreams? Why did Wilfred remember? Why didn't Donna remember? Why didn't Donna change if she had bad dreams? Why did she have bad dreams too?
doctorwho786 4 months ago
@doctorwho786 - Moffat is a good writer, but his plots are way-overacted. If he'd invite me to write an episode for the series I'd gladly write something phenomenal. You know, without the constant deaths of characters every five episodes. You do realise the Doctor has died five times in two series, right? He died in part 1 of series 6 twice (including flesh-version) and three times in the second half of the series. Rory's died four times and Amy's died twice.
It's ultra-confusing.
cybersunday07 4 months ago
@cybersunday07
Which Writer do you think is Better, Russel T Davies or Steven Moffat????
Luxayan 4 months ago
@Luxayan I'd say Moffat, mainly because he knows how to write, but lacks a good story. So RTD is better at the story part, Moffat is better at the writing part.
cybersunday07 4 months ago
@cybersunday07 Erm...The Girl in the Fireplace, Blink, The Pandorica Opens, all won HUGO awards...and you're saying Moffat doesnt know a good story?
Idiot.
ZipZagginGallifrey 3 months ago
@cybersunday07 Ultra shit morelike. ;)
TheMasterNo6 2 months ago
@cybersunday07 Yep, I agree with you on the whole overacted plot thing. It seems like too much is happening to the Tardis team itself (a bit like a soap opera). I like it better when the main focus is on travelling and having crazy adventures, with personal stuff on the side.
RTD is my fave writer, but both of them are very talented. It's just a question of taste. :
MsLyraGW 2 months ago
RTD's style was definatly for children, but that's not a bad thing as DW is a family show, and it's largest audience IS children.
ZipZagginGallifrey 3 months ago
@ZipZagginGallifrey Don't children (under 13's) make up about 20-25% of the audience?
JamieHowitt 3 months ago
Loved this episode. I think this and The Waters of Mars were the best episodes for Doctor Who with David. The scripting wasn't as good for most of the other episodes.
tombomdoodle 4 months ago
david tennant AND matt smith are just as good as each other - all the doctors are :)
randomhouse123456789 5 months ago
In Russel T Davis biography, it is said that the woman that keeps seeing Wilfred Mott is the Doctors mum
TheMrBADWOLF 6 months ago
Despite seeing this episode 500 times, this trailer still gave me shivers!!
TheRenoReviews 6 months ago 6
timlords r returning sooo sik!!!
aziz001ish 6 months ago
this is sad
aziz001ish 6 months ago
Czemu tak długo trzeba na to czekać ??
MrMagnumPL 6 months ago
I think the entire point of Season 4 and the Specials was to break the Tenth Doctor, take away everything he had and drive him insane. Then when he became 11, 11 would go back to his alien, time lord roots. 10 became too human, so they had to break him to make him go back to alien
billywitchdocter 6 months ago
0:16 always makes me tear up, the music prob
LaKream 8 months ago
John Simm was the best thing about this episode
0MrAnon2 8 months ago
This episode is my all time favorite :) Just EPIC!
RESPECT!
Aali8Britney 9 months ago 2
Could this have been.... the most anticipated DW episode ever? I remember the week long gap seemed to take forever!
Trayusstudent1 9 months ago
Loved the episode!!! Amazing, the ending was soo sad, cried like crazy!!!....
i hated the fact he died alone, but i love the scene with rose and him :(
ilovefoodlol 10 months ago
EPIC!
Aali8Britney 10 months ago
best doctor who episode trailer ever!!! :D
TheMike646 10 months ago
i didnt want david tennent to change into matt smith as he is a shite doctor but it was a good episode with the time lords returning
RichFullert 10 months ago
@RichFullert Matt Smith a kickass doctor. Too attatched to DT. But u only say matt's shit whihc infact he is one of the best doctors, but u only says hes bad coz of DT. Give him a chance and if u hate him. Have good reasons you NOB!
Smallvillenerd 9 months ago
@RichFullert Hey you matt smith is great as being the doctor. All david tennant did was cry all the time
CPTTAYLOR592 8 months ago 2
@CPTTAYLOR592 Sorry, but what a fucking idiot you are. The Tenth Doctor is THE best Doctor ever, Smith is good too, but not as good as Tennant was.
hmc117 6 months ago
can someone please tell me the music that starts at the begining of the end of time part 2 when it shows the time lords
Jasonkish 10 months ago
does anyone know what the music at the beginning of the video is?
jprince815 10 months ago
@jprince815 its the series four Doctors Theme
CrazyBoutBillie 9 months ago
that was the saddest episode ever i nearly cried, but all the women near me were bawling when he said "I don't want to go."
BH211 10 months ago
@hiimjnki2 ahaha!
gomirodriguez 1 year ago
"This was the day...the television lords returned..."
"FOR THE BBC"
"FOR TV RATINGS"
"FOR THE END OF TELEVISION ITSELF!"
"BBC RISES!"
hiimjenki2 1 year ago 37
Did someone knows what's the name of the second music played in the trailer? Just when Thimothy Dalton says "GALIFREY RISES!"....
revokadaj 1 year ago
The dramatic scale Doctor Who has reached since it's return is phenomonal! I'll admit i'm liking the dialogue in the latest series (feels more like old school DW) but I salute you Russel T Davis and both Chris E and David T, you revived it brilliantly!!
shepja87 1 year ago
@shepja87 nah RTD is a dick at writing. He always plays it safe and never changes and its just the same repetetive shit. He actually called the show and DRAMA and made it melodramatic! Steven Moffat is going back old school, darker and breaking boundaries. The Almost peple cliffhanger will be like: HOLLLLLLLLLYYYY SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT and den ep 7 will be like: HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT!
Smallvillenerd 9 months ago
@Smallvillenerd I wouldn't say he kept stories the same, what got me bout his writing was how companions look up to the doctor, series 1-4 was bum kiss o'clock for all the companions. DT's doctor also became a bit of a know it all and a goofy, not eccentric. Also RTD tugged at your heart one minute, then put in an idiotic comedy sequence like at the beginning of Love & Monsters, you ask to chuckle brothers to do what they did and they'd have more self respect
shepja87 9 months ago
@shepja87 although saying that, DT's final speech before he saved Wilfred's life did have me devestated a bit :-(
shepja87 9 months ago
This Song Is Ending BE WARNED
DWFA100 1 year ago
does anybody know the name of the music that starts to play when wilf starts to cry i want that to be played at my funeral RIP 10th Doctor (a.k.a) David Tennant whom we all have a secret crush on
AlternateTimelineGuy 1 year ago
@AlternateTimelineGuy The music up until 0:21 is The Doctor's Theme [series 4]. Then it changes into something else, I think it may ba a variation of one songs used in special.
It's been a year since we've said goodbye to Ten :( I miss him.
EmilyEvans 1 year ago
oh it was incredible!
I loved it so much ... the Doctor had become so bitter towards the end, so powerful, and so terrible ... he was so sad, and it was so sad to watch him. What he became without a companion, what he turned to when he knew he was going to die.
But don't worry Doctor ... we will sing you to your sleep ... :')
FireflyFanatic3 1 year ago
Loved it! I really want Gallifrey and the Time Lords to come back permanently but i don't think that will happen :'(
robertcasey97 1 year ago
@robertcasey97 Me too. Sadly, that's unlikely, especially since Steven Moffat the current Producer sees no place for them on the show. But never fear, the Master will return. He always does. Other recurring Time Lords from the past include Romana, the Meddling Monk, the Rani and Omega. I think they'll all return eventually as well. Not to mention the Doctor's daughter, Jenny. Plus there's a new character called Idris introduced next series. She's rumoured to be a Time Lady.
Kaagh178 1 year ago
@Kaagh178 yeah i read that somewhere, i hope she is a time lady. But you never know. I can't wait for the next series! :)
robertcasey97 1 year ago
I cried. Alot. Like really flooded. Honestly
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breeannaqktjbl 1 year ago
i miss this era of Doctor Who =( oh well the new ones alright..
frank86109 1 year ago
@getdrinking shut the hell up! David Tennant is amazing, and that was some of the best acting I've seen him do!
I never cry at movies or TV (except Marley and Me cuz I have a yellow lab), but I spent that whole 40 minutes crying my eyes out. David was my first Doctor; I saw him in Fires of Pompeii during my Latin class, and I absolutely adore him. Don't hate! If you didn't like it go watch the 9th Doctor... Never liked him...
ShayTheWolf13 1 year ago
@ShayTheWolf13
Exaclty, The End Of Time Part 2 Ending was too sad. Now that is what i call a good ending for a Good Doctor. Matt Smith will probaly just have the same way at the 9th Doctor lol.
Luxayan 10 months ago
@Luxayan Fuck you! DT's leaving was like: Who the shit cares about you wimping about dying. Get on with it! You only hate Matt becoz of DT. Give him a chance. He's actually really good you Prick!
Smallvillenerd 9 months ago
@Smallvillenerd
Lol, he aint better comapared dt
Luxayan 8 months ago
@Luxayan it's all a matter of opinion and i think you're just a tennant fanboy who watched his dr who and bagged the rest of the show. Matt Smith is relly nailing thejob and when i watched DT sometimes he was so annoying i felt embarrased to watch the show. Anyway DT got a bad end, End of Time were shit two parters and didn't do good for DT
Smallvillenerd 8 months ago
@Smallvillenerd
David Tennant can Act Better!!!!
Luxayan 6 months ago
@Luxayan that's yor opinion, Matt Sith is quirkier and betetr for the role, and doesn't get repetetive
Smallvillenerd 6 months ago
This should be... Spectaculaaarrr....
TheBirdBuster 1 year ago
love the beginging it really shows how at the end of david tennants carrer they did a great line
thedocwill 1 year ago
tennant and simm are a good master and doctor pair...
DaFilipinoBoii 1 year ago 15
A truly amazing 2 parter. I will miss DT but matt smith is gr8 as the doctor and series 5 is awesome!
ntranced257 1 year ago
i want to know whos going to be the 12th docter :|
jamesthered123 1 year ago
@jamesthered123 #
yeah, but I hope its someone good. i also want to see a multi-doctor episode at some point, and a new regeneration sequence, preferably one outside of the TARDIS so that something goes wrong with it. would be interesting to see imo ^^
georgercop 1 year ago
@georgercop
:D it would be COOL if david returned as the multi-docter :D
jamesthered123 1 year ago 4
i don't cry at anything ever...but at the end of the second part when the doctor says " i don't want to go! i nearly burst into tears shouting neither do i !!!!!!!!...XD it wont be the same without DT...
lycanwich 2 years ago 4
DOCTOR WHO IS AMAZING. what an epic trailer!!!!!!!!!
ntranced257 2 years ago 4
How's anyone supposed to get in the TARDIS if it's buried in snow?
finagle007 2 years ago 4
@finagle007 snow melts, eventually...
irishdan2007 1 year ago
i am so annoyed i can't watch it WAAAAA not out in HK
doodlegirl1995 2 years ago
look it up!! its on youtube i just watched it
xXxTimeLordetexXx 2 years ago
David deserves some kind of recognition for his acting especially when he heard the four knock from Wilf
harv964 2 years ago
=(
i miss 10th doctor alredy =(
FDFRone 2 years ago
longest death scene ever... christ! we knew he was going to die just get on with it and not have 30 minutes of tennant staring at people from a distance.
getdrinking 2 years ago
@getdrinking LOL¬!
susanwilson13 1 year ago
Rip Doctor no 10, the best of them all
Yavin1v 2 years ago 2
its been on
plsplspls upload it!
chanellethemak 2 years ago
I think that was really epic.
bobandquizo 2 years ago
I can't wait for the second part
Vampiregizzle888 2 years ago
50 MINS!
xjx2 2 years ago
hehe yeh cribbins manning the laser looks the best thing about it. I love Doc who from Hartnells era but these two specials, the end of time, have so far been shiiit :P the master is a crap villain and the time lords are a piffling race. WE WANT MONSTERS hehe
IlidanTheBetrayer 2 years ago
doctor who is probly not for u then.
BrotherTree1 2 years ago
LMFAO Wilf in that gunship thing
CHRISSYCHAMBERS45 2 years ago
im so gonna cry when i watch this im emotional already
declanwatson 2 years ago
Beyond time? What does that even mean?
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
Gallifrey Rises!
thebikers 2 years ago 2
If time ended, wouldn't they end with it?
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
I am so looking forward to Jan 1 it is going to be so sad. Yet, I am happy that we will have regular Dr. Who. This year has been a long one with only 5 episodes.
Blackstaff425 2 years ago 2
we wait...
Marsatake 2 years ago
Get your hankies ready...this is going to be a very sad episode.
CollinKelleyPoetry 2 years ago 41
I KNEW IT!!!! I KNEW GALLIFREY WAS COMING BACK!!
I mean, obvious genius I am.
greypilgrim26 2 years ago 52
I wonder how they're going to explain this away? :D
Though why is the doctor considering the return of the time lords a bad thing?
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
Perhaps beacause it is a TIME war it is constantly happening all the time and it is acctually ''the end of the time war''
it won't be the first time the time lords have been bad, they put the doc on trial twice, once causinng him to regenerate. There have been bad timelords like the master and the rani but the timelords were generally peaceful, but leading up to the time war and being invaded by sontarens ect they have become more hostile.
mastterby 2 years ago
Ah, I see.
I never saw the older episodes (there just so hard to find!)
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
Well that time when they put him on trial was a purely bureaucratic decision. The time lords have a strict non-interference policy which the Doctor has violated (and continues to violate) time and again. It's like stealing from the rich to give to the poor. Even though you are doing a good thing you're still breaking the law. So it's not that the time lords are evil but rather they would be more of a Lawful Neutral nature always conforming to strict codes of conduct.
NexAngelus405 2 years ago
Well said!
robobunny 2 years ago
the doctor has been bad...look at the waters of mars; just the most recent example of his interfering with a fixed point in time. It might have had a ripple effect on future events beyond simply rewriting the small details of earth's venture into space after Adelaide died.
hamanu666 2 years ago