Quando me lembro das dores, tristezas e decepções, vem em meu coração e ouço a Sua voz dizendo que me ama e a tua graça me basta!!!Obrigada por tudo oque me permitiste conquistar...Tu sim Senhor é Fiel!!!!
I love coming home from an amazing church service, and just continuing that kind of worship by listening to this guy. He has such an incredible annointing.
What a wonderful song and nice way these instruments of God were used to transmit the message through this awesome music!! We're in Brazil and have a gospel rock band and this is so nice to hear what GOD has done in my life.
I had no idea this wasn't kim walker's song. This is so much better his way, no offense to her she sings amazing.. But you can tell it was meant for a guy to sing in this video.
We are His portion and He is our prize, Drawn to redemption by the grace in His eyes If grace is an ocean, we're all sinking So heaven meets earth like a sloppy wet kiss and my heart turns violently inside of my chest I don't have time to maintain these regrets when I think about the way
He is jealous for me Love's like a hurricane, I am a tree Bending beneath the weight of His wind and mercy When all of a sudden, I am unaware of these afflictions eclipsed by glory and I realize just how beautiful You are and how great your affections are for me.
Oh, how He loves us so Oh, how He loves us How He loves us so. (x2)
Yeah, He loves us Whoa, how He loves us Whoa, how He loves us Whoa, how He loves.
My worship leaders fathers just died so please pray 4 him. This song hits home 4 me because of Hurricane Irene, u never know what type of storm Jesus will throw in our lives. I was diagnosed with CP when I was 3 years old also. The list keeps going on & on so that's why this song hits a special place in my heart. I LOVE IT. My church just started singing it last year to tell you the truth.
“The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc., because it recognized the Jews for what they were. I am moving back toward the time in which a fifteen-hundred-year-long tradition was implemented. I recognize the representatives of this race as pestilent for the state and for the Church, and perhaps I am thereby doing Christianity a great service by pushing them out of schools and public functions.' -- Hitler to Bishop Wilhelm Berning
WRONG...I would rather look at facts rather than opinions of people who base their thoughts on opinion. You have spouted off the same stuff so much you believe yourself. Your youtube site proves that. Christians weren't pleased with the crucifixion of Christ but Christ taught forgiveness for His murderers and for His followers to do the same. BTW any group Nazi or otherwise can claim to be a Christian but that does not make them one any more than a basketball jersey makes you basketball player.
Archbishop Robert Runcie has asserted that: 'Without centuries of Christian antisemitism, Hitler's passionate hatred would never have been so fervently echoed...because for centuries Christians have held Jews collectively responsible for the death of Jesus. On Good Friday Jews, have in times past, cowered behind locked doors with fear of a Christian mob seeking 'revenge' for deicide. Without the action of Christian minds through the centuries, the Holocaust is unthinkable.'
@edilaniolocutor Então cara... Essa é a versão original, jonh mark escreveu e depois outros adaptaram ao estilo da banda, como o Jesus culture, jared Anderson, hillsong, fora as versões em espanhol e tal... O diante do trono gravou exatamente igual a versão do Jesus culture... Da uma olhada depois na kim
Jesus é tudo, e so seremos felizes, realmente, se Ele for tudo, Jesus não serve para ser a cereja em cima do soverte, Ele tem que ser tudo, ou nada, meio coração, é coração vazio. Jesus eu te amo:-D
Dean Farrar, writing in the Encyclopaedia Britannica, says: "That Josephus wrote the whole passage as it now stands no sane critic can believe." Bishop Warburton denounced it as "a rank forgery and a very stupid one, too." Chambers' Encyclopaedia says: "The famous passage of Josephus is generally conceded to be an interpolation."
@DocReasonable way to nuke me with comments. Name dropping two people really doesn't tell me much, especially with all the evidence on the contrary of their views, which I presented.
I have read the entire Bible. It says THE EARTH IS FLAT, RESTS ON PILLARS, COVERED BY A BRONZE DOME, ORBITED BY THE SUN AND RAINFALL COMES FROM OUTER SPACE.
It's safe to say everything else it claims is a crock of it too.
'If any MAN come to me, and HATE not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.' Luke 4 26
If Christ was an historical character, why was it necessary to forge documents to prove his existence? Did anybody ever think of forging documents to prove the existence of any person who was really known to have lived? The early Christian forgeries are a tremendous testimony to the weakness of the Christian cause.
The early church was flooded with spurious religious writings.
@DocReasonable who the heck do you think you are. Why are you so destined to ruin someones faith if you agree with it or not. It is not your place at all, everyone has their own experience with the Lord and what Jesus did for them. Don't spit out all of this crap for people when they have had their lives changed and turned away from the world and all its crap. I love knowing I have hope , not know Jesus, there is no hope.
It's not a matter of whether I agree or disagree - -the FACT IS, JESUS NEVER LIVED AND THE ENTIRE STORY IS A LIE. Go back and read my comments on this, then do further research yourself, you lazy drone.
Are you just another reformed drug addict who was 'saved' by the Born-Again cult? Funny how you people are always recruited from the gutter!
@DrumminBenji I prefer the term to debating benji as it carries a little more construction that a simply argument. I'm not trying to win any battles man, i'm just defending the Jesus who is my everything. Is that a problem with you?
@DrumminBenji I hope I can also provide some relief to other Christians to know that their beliefs are secure and not all lies like Doc over here incessantly declares.
@santisevenX 'their beliefs are secure and not all lies like Doc over here incessantly declares.'
You're the liar here. Everything I've said is 100% verifiable.
The Dead Sea Scrolls include manuscripts that were written up to 68 AD, encompassing the entire 'lifetime' of Christ. There is plenty of apocrypha among the Scrolls.
If such a miracle worker had really existed in that SAME AREA, surely he would have been noted by the scribes of the time.
@DocReasonable No, Doc everything you said is not 100% verifiable and anyone here can simply Google your claims and find that out. The Dead Sea scrolls may have been written to 68 A.D. but it's contents certainly do not encompass Jesus' "lifetime". He was noted by the scribes of the time, like Luke a first rate historian and a host of other NT authors and extra biblical people who did in fact take note. As far as apocrypha, certainly there was.
@santisevenX 'The Dead Sea scrolls may have been written to 68 A.D. but it's contents certainly do not encompass Jesus' "lifetime".'
The were written from 200 BC to 68 AD - -that COMPLETELY encompassed the 'lifetime' of Jesus, you lying troll. When do YOU think he lived?!
So now you're resorting to claims that Luke was a genuine scribe? Pen was NOT laid to parchment until AT LEAST 60-70 yrs after Jesus' 'death'. No scholar disputes this fact.
@DocReasonable haha. So now you want to cite scholarly unanimity. How was Luke not a genuine scribe Doc? It encompassed the lifetime of Jesus as far as being written through and after his lifetime but it doesn't expand our field of knowledge about him like the Gospels do. What's your point?
The point about the Dead Sea Scrolls is they DO NOT MENTION JESUS, despite being written in his 'lifetime' and area of 'existence'.
However, Jesus was supposedly 'famous' throughout the Holy Lands!
'And there followed him great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan' Mat 4 25
@DocReasonable actually they do mention him quite frequently if you can comprehend the context clues. In regards to your last statement, at least your consistent in your insults....and your irrationality.
@DocReasonable Doc, for your viewing pleasure: 4Q246 (contains parts of Luke) and fragments of the Markian Gospel. Jose Callaghan also has some interesting work on the Dead Sea Scrolls' references to Jesus. Doc the burden of proof is still on you to dismantle the countless ancient historians and writers' testimonies. Open your eyes and be 'reasonable'.
The history of the Bible and Christianity are rich with frauds and fallacies. For instance, one of the most popular parables of the Bible (the Pericope Adulterae), was actually added to John in the 4th century. The resurrection and ascension were added to Mark years after the original text was written, and by a different author (Mark 16:9-20). But one of the most blatant forgeries for which the details are known occurred in the 1600s.
The Mark named as the author of the Gospel of Mark, by church fathers, was a converted Jew. He would have been intimately familiar with Jewish customs, beliefs and practices. Yet in the gospel named after him, we find him misquoting the 10 Commandments, attributing what Jews think to be God's words, to Moses, and even depicting Jews as making purchases on the Sabbath. It was written anonymously 60-80CE, at least 30-years after the time set for the crucifixion.
@DocReasonable The passage is disputed. However v. 9-20 are in fact found in many other old manuscripts, and we have the other 3 Gospels to go on. In addition we also have Pauline documents.
The New Testament was rewritten, heavily edited and compiled by the Catholics in the year 397 AD, with several forgeries added along the way -- such as the ENTIRE ACCOUNT OF THE ASCENSION OF JESUS AT THE END OF MARK. NONE of that garbage is in the earliest original manuscripts WHICH STILL EXIST.
Christ is supposed to have been a Jew, and his disciples are said to have been Jewish fishermen. His language, and the language of his followers must, therefore, have been Aramaic--the language of Palestine in that age. But the Gospels are written in Greek--every one of them. Nor were they translated from some other language. This proves that they were not written by Christ's disciples, or by any of the early Christians.
@DocReasonable Actually it doesn't. It was not uncommon for people to be multilingual at the time. They would speak Hebrew for their religion (Judaism) Aramaic for geographic reasons, and Greek and Latin because they were apart of the Roman Empire, all of which is common knowledge. Also you don't know for sure that they were written in Greek, only distributed in Greek.
@DocReasonable Your making too many assumptions here you simply can't back up. You don't have to be very educated to know multiple languages. Little kids can imitate parents in the household and pick up multiple languages quite quickly because they are around it constantly, same with these guys. And I already gave you reasons why they would know multiple languages. We know it was distributed in Greek Doc, not that it was originally written in Greek.
@santisevenX 'We know it was distributed in Greek Doc, not that it was originally written in Greek.'
So what you're saying is that the Greek manuscripts of the NT were TRANSLATED from Hebrew/Aramaic, adding a complete extra level of potential textual error.
Odd that no scholar on Earth shares your 'view'.
And since when are uneducated subsistence fisherman so literate, at ANY time in history??
@DocReasonable No matter how much "evidence" you post you can never turn any of us believers from the path that we are on. If you take time to get to know God's word (not read it to prove it wrong) you learn that God just dramatically changes your life to way I can't fully explain. But I got to tell you
Quick lesson for you: Christians have always hated the Jews because the Jews not only 'disobeyed the Gospel of Christ' the Bible portrays them as baying for his execution.
Jews have therefore been persecuted by the Christians for as long as the New Testament have been around.
Europes Jews were slaughtered, stoned and burned by Christians for Biblical reasons including 'causing' the Black Plague - 600 years before the Christian Nazi Holocaust.
@DocReasonable In Mathew 7:21 It says "Not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven." It is saying that there are people who claim to be followers of God that aren't that at all. Like those Christians that murdered Jews. You can't just say that all Christians are murderers because some do. I know that most legit believers in Christ that I have met don't kill people because of false beliefs.
The Bible actually DOES tell you to kill non-blievers, however.
'But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.' - Jesus, Luke 19:17
'... unbelievers shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB. And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever. ' Rev 14:10-11
@DocReasonable You can't judge that God tells us to kill unbelievers. When does he actually say "kill unbelievers". Read Isaiah 53, it talks about jesus dying on the cross for our sins and it was written 700 years before he existed. Doesn't that prove his existence?
@SimiMyles 'Read Isaiah 53, it talks about jesus dying on the cross for our sins '
No it doesn't, you retard. Why would an Orthodox Jew be writing a story about Jesus being true? The Jews say their Messiah HAS NEVER COME! And it is THEIR religion, so THEY should know, idiot.
@SimiMyles 'When does he actually say 'kill unbelievers?'
Dt 17:1-5 'And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heavens, which I have not commanded. Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing and shalt STONE them with stones, till they die'
There are several others too, I ca post those if you want.
@DocReasonable I was just reading in my Bible John 8:7. It says "So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, 'He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first." Now I'm not denying that Deuteronomy says that. And I'm certainly not doubting that there are other verses that condemn people. But Jesus, the Son of God, never condemned anyone. Who do you represent? The condemnation of judging others, or Jesus Christ?
@thatcantrellguy 'Jesus, the Son of God, never condemned anyone.'
What do you think THIS is:
'He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned.' - Jesus, Mark 16:16
'In flaming fire take vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction' 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
@DocReasonable You should go read the Bible and some non-revisionist history ... biblical Christians do not hate the Jews they have a heart to reach them as Jesus did ... they forgive as Jesus' example on the cross taught them. The Nazis were not Christians. Take the time to check it out.
WRONG, all Nazis WERE Christians, just as modern day neo-Nazi groups are ALL christians as well.
Christians despise Jews for supposedly rejecting Jesus as the Messiah and demanding that he be crucified. This is no big secret you retard, ask around.
Works were forged in the names of the apostles, and even in the name of Christ. The greatest Christian teachers taught that it was a virtue to deceive and lie for the glory of the faith. Dean Milman, the standard Christian historian, says: 'Pious fraud was admitted and avowed.' The Rev. Dr. Giles writes: 'There can be no doubt that great numbers of books were then written with no other view than to deceive.'
Matthew says Jesus was born when Herod was King of Judea. Luke says he was born when Cyrenius was Governor of Syria. He could not have been born during the administration of these tow rulers for Herod died in the year 4 B.C., and Cyrenius, who, in Roman history is Quirinius, did not become Governor of Syria until ten years later. Between Matthew and Luke, there is, therefore, a contradiction of at least ten years, as to the time of Christ's birth.
@DocReasonable A commonly quoted verse that does on the surface apparently contradict Luke. However, In stating that Quirinius controlled the Syrian area, Luke doesn't use the official political title of "Governor" ("legatus"), but the broader term "hegemon" which is a ruling officer or procurator. This means that Quirinius may not have been the official governor of Judea, but he was in charge of the census because he was a more capable and trusted servant of Rome than Saturninus.
@santisevenX In order to secure efficiency and dispatch, it may well have been that Augustus put Quirinius in charge of the census-enrollment in Syria between the close of Saturninus's administration and the beginning of Varus's term of service in 7 B.C. It was doubtless because of his competent handling of the 7 B.C. census that Augustus later put him in charge of the 7 A.D. census.Archer also says that Roman history records Quirinius leading the effort to quell rebels in the area at time.
Some of the books left out of the Bible by the Catholics who voted on what would go in:
Book of Jasher, Book of the Covenant, Book of Nathan, Book of Gad, Book of Samuel, Visions of Iddo, Acts of Uzziah, Acts of Solomon, Three Thousand Proverbs of Solomon, A Thousand and Five Songs of Solomon, Chronicles of the Kings of Judah, Chronicles of the Kings of Israel and so many more that were excluded or destroyed by the Church and the believers must follow without question.
@DocReasonable@santisevenX Jesus loves both of you more then words can describe, stop splitting up the body of Christ and look at the bigger picture. please.
@DrumminBenji Bro, DocReason isnt a Christian. I am doing what is commanded of me in the Bible my friend, to give an answer for my beliefs so that people might come to know Jesus. that is the big picture.
Of the 41 ancient historians who lived at the time of Jesus or just after, none write anything about him.........interesting.........and the entire NT an eternal afterlife is only mentioned in Mathew 12. 2-3 the only thing your cruddy cult has to offer humanity is only mentioned in a few lines (one would have to consider its credibility), yet every other thing is mentioned, even how one should take a crap. Talk about thin on evidence.....and you have the hubris to question science
@DocReasonable Wow. I don't know where you are getting your information from man but it is quite fallacious and on the contrary to a majority of scholars who look into the life of the historical Jesus. How am I questioning science Doc? Your statements in your latest response are lacking in clarity. If you would care to expound...
My statements are 100% correct and verifiable. There are NO EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS OF JESUS FROM ANYONE AND HE WAS NOT EVEN MENTIONED UNTIL AROUND 60 YEARS AFTER HIS SUPPOSED DEATH.
As I've said, if you DO have any accounts of Jesus from his 'lifetime', NOT 100+ YEARS LATER, please provide links and sources right here.
@DocReasonable Well that's too bad because Josephus was 1st Century, Tacitus was 1st Century, Pliny the Younger was late 1st Century. Most real scholars unlike yourself will place significance and authenticity on any source from within two centuries of Jesus' life. Not to mention I haven't even cited the canonical Gospels and their accuracy, reliability, and historicity. In addition we have creeds from Philippians and Corinthians that predate the writing of the NT and that is a fact acknowledge
Stop lying, if you wouldn't mind. It's very easy to debunk.
Pliny the Younger mentioned 'christ' in 106 AD, when outlining how he punished 'evil' christians.
Tacitus mentioned 'chrestus' in 116 AD, and called christianity 'a most mischievous superstition' at that time.
BOTH ARE SECOND CENTURY, BOZO!
The Josephus 'mention' is allegedly from 93 AD, but scholars almost universally dismiss this as a much later forgery by Eusebius, for very good reasons that I stated earlier.
@DocReasonable I'm afraid scholars do not universally dismiss that. What credible scholars believe that and have you looked at evidence against that? Because I have as i mentioned and it is completely and utterly refuted. You also did nothing to diminish the credibility in any of my sources as authentic and supported by contemporary scholarship. Celsus is a good secular source (2nd Century) that I forgot to mention. So you have your work cut out for you to hold to your irrational claim.
by atheists and agnostics, surprisingly the ones who discovered it. 1 Cor. 15:3-8 pertaining to Jesus' Resurrection. Lucian of Samosata is another good 2nd century writer mentioning Jesus being crucified, Tertullian-late 2nd Century, Phlegon-1st Century Historian who mentions Jesus and the darkness of the day he was crucified. HISTORY proves Jesus did in fact exist, contrary to your opinion, unless you can somehow discredit the writings many writers and historians scholars say are indeed real
'This darkness was not recorded by the two greatest contemporary scientists of the time, Seneca and Pliny the Elder. These writers attempted to record all known contemporary geological and astronomical phenomenon, which makes their omission of this event a serious deterrent to regarding it as historical. It is also not mentioned by Josephus, who certainly would have noted it.'
@DocReasonable Reasonable assumptions I guess, but certainly not concrete evidence and certainly not definitive. But this matter really isn't the topic here Doc, at least not right now. Jesus' historicity is and so far you have failed to knock any of my sources with sound refutation.
You're just in denial, I guess that's understandable. Must be tough to find out you've wasted your entire life believing a lie.
I've SHOWN you that all of those 'sources' DID NOT MENTION JESUS UNTIL THE SECOND CENTURY, yet you call that 'no evidence'. Jesus was supposedly surrounded by scribes, BUT NONE WROTE OF HIM.
Oh well, just going on living your little dream forever.
'But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, slay them before me.' Luke 19 27
@DocReasonable I think the majority of scholars have a contrary view for good reason Doc. So to recap this, not only have you not addressed the many ancient writers I listed, you decide to end all your efforts by ripping a verse out of the context of a parable ( argumentatively fallacious), told by an imaginary man (according to you) and trying to say what....?
I've addressed EVERY SINGLE ONE of the 2nd century writers you mindlessly parroted, and debunked your nonsense on every level. Perhaps you missed this one:
According to Celsus in 180 AD, 'Jesus has no standing in the Hebrew Bible prophecies and talk of his resurrection was foolishness.'
Celsus condemned the Christians as lying sycophants who fabricated a massive fiction. He was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
One last thing, as an encouragement to all who would bother to read these comments and believe in God. The Bible is meaningless without the guidance of the Spirit and God's love. If we don't read it with the Holy Spirit and love, we will be just like the Pharisees who are experts of the law but has no God. God bless.
Isaiah 36:12 'But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?'
YES, that is in the Bible - -look it up for yourself.
Also I would like to point out that there is no need for me to come and argue especially on youtube, because God has already won against the world. And according to Docreasonable's studies suggested that there is nothing in any thing from history or archeology to prove the Bible. But if he doesn't know about the Red Sea sea bridge littered with the remains of the Egyptian army who pursued the Israelites. And Noahs arch on the mountains of Turkey, I don't know where he's been.
@glooer 'But if he doesn't know about the Red Sea sea bridge littered with the remains of the Egyptian army who pursued the Israelites. And Noahs arch on the mountains of Turkey'
Those claims of the late Ron Wyatt have been debunked
The Israel Antiquities Authority finds that Exodus did not happen. Of all the people who would want the Torah events to be true, it would be the Israel Antiquities Authority! And they have the money to mount the research --only to come up empty-handed every time.
I'd like to apologize for the pointless conversation here on this page that wastes everyone's space on this commenting page. But I would like to say that the reason I am not angry at DocReasonable here for calling me a liar is because he is not insulting me, but the God who has been with me all these years, maybe he can pick apart the Bible by his own standards but he can't disprove what He has done for me all these years. Again sorry about this stupid internet fight.
@DocReasonable. If one were to really research it they would find that it's just as easy to prove Jesus' life as it is to prove Abe Lincoln's. What's cool about that is Abe made a lot of people free who needed it, AND Jesus made/makes EVERYONE free if they'll just receive it! :D
No there is not any physical evidence. However, when you have a relationship with him, you can actually feel that love. It is the most wonderful peaceful feeling in the entire world. And if I'm completely wrong for believing in something that doesn't exist then I'd rather spend my entire life believing in Him and feeling His love and mercy every day than to not ever feel that and to die and be wrong. I have nothing to lose by believing in HIm but could lose everything if I am wrong.
'Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. ' 1 Corinthians 14:34-36
'Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands. ' 1 Peter 3:1
@DocReasonable for the 1 Corinthians' case, Paul says so because the women of the Church in Corinth are not there to worship or to serve God but to gossip, socialize and gain control so it is better for them not to speak at all.
And for the 1 Peter also says that the husband should love the wife as if she is his own body, that also means that the husband should submit to his wife's needs as if they are his own.
@glooer 'that also means that the husband should submit to his wife's needs as if they are his own.'
NBo, there is nothing like that in the bible. Just misogynist crap like:
'Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. ' 1 Corinthians 14:34-36
@DocReasonable I told you about why Paul said that in the 1st Corinthians, because the women were misleading people from God, and this statement is directed to them. Understand the context before you place your judgement on God.
@DocReasonable As for 1st Peter 3:7 says: Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.
I means that the husbands shall be the guard of their wive heart and let nothing hurt them.
But I know that your heart won't except it no matter how I argue, all I can do is to pray for you.
@glooer 'For the 1 Corinthians' case, Paul says so because the women of the Church in Corinth are not there to worship or to serve God but to gossip, socialize and gain control'
No, the chapter says NONE of that - -why are you lying here? Quote the verses you claim to get this from.
@DocReasonable I think our conversation can end here, unless you do more background research on the subject matter, because the Bible is a history book, and there is a lot behind its account. Peace.
OK, well I guess you've just proven you're a liar by refusing to quote the imaginary verses you alluded to earlier from 1 Corinthians. If you feel you have to lie for your faith, then you faith is very weak. A shame you've shown this to your fellows.
And the Bible is NOT a history book, it's rather quite well known and revered as a HOLY book that forms the basis of a religion called Christianity.
@DocReasonable If you find a bible with commentary, you will find much background info on the Church of Corinth. If you read MORE you will find that the Bible matched exactly to the historical events. Go and study.
@DocReasonable Even if they matched up you probably still won't believe in God, just to let you know, judging me based the little you know about me is also a dangerous move. You don't know what I've been through so it is pointless to call me ignorant.
@glooer 'Even if they matched up you probably still won't believe in God'
Don't be so stupid -- if the Bible matched up with FACT, I WOULD believe in God and Jesus. But the stories of the Bible go AGAINST ALL KNOWN FACTS of history, science, biology, geology, astronomy -- you name it.
As for 'judging' you, all I know about you is that you've been willing to lie to defend a precarious position. I think that shows very poor integrity.
'A dangerous move'..? Are you actually THREATENING me?
If Noah's Ark was found, it would make international headlines. Ask your preacher, even HE will tell you it's an embarrassing lie by the Adventist charlatan Ron Wyatt.
You clearly DO NOT HAVE A CLUE about the real world, have done NO study and have retreated into a comforting fantasy world where 'Jesus loves you'.
EX-ADDICT MUCH?
Try reading the Bible, your God is an unrepentant mass-murderer.
NO, I'm only interested in pointing out that you're a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR WITH NO SHAME.
Only fringe lunatics and charlatans claim that Noah's Ark has actually been found. Some religious archaeologists are still looking for it, but most religious people agree that the ark story was just SYMBOLIC.
If it HAD been found, don't you think there would be endless pilgrimages to it be all mainstream Christians, Jews and Muslims? Ask yourself why that isn't happening, you clueless person.
@DocReasonable what are you even doing on this video? your just being a straight jackass man. Not only do you not know what your talking about all, you're being rude and offensive, trademarks of the modern atheist unfortunately while you parrot bad arguments you googled and pasted onto here. No life...
@santisevenX 'Not only do you not know what your talking about all'
Tell me what I've gotten wrong. I have a PhD in biology and I've been studying theology for 20 years, so I'd be interested if you can teach me anything further.
'you parrot bad arguments you googled '
That's an extremely churlish and uninformed comment to make. If you have any evidence against my thoroughly researched and verifiable statements, how about presenting it?
@DocReasonable First off, tell me these apparent contradictions in the Bible so we can address them. My "uninformed" comment simply stands after reading some of your outrageously erroneous comments to Glooer.
A PhD in biology is great in all honesty, however I don't see how that is supposed to establish credibility in the context of this conversation. Studying theology for twenty years, I wonder how you went about studying.
@DocReasonable I need to apologize for calling you what I did. I was honestly angry at your previous posts but it doesnt warrant rudeness on my part as well.
@DocReasonable No ignorance makes me angry. For instance you said there is no evidence of Jesus. On the contrary, there are forty texts of antiquity on Jesus, four times as the Roman Emperor at the time ( Tiberius). We have many texts corroborating the Gospels from Jewish Historians ( Josephus, Serapion) to secular writers like Tacitus, Lucian, Suetonius, and several others. Even most atheists I run into agree Jesus was a real person.
You must really hate yourself then. There are too many LIES in your comment to address in one go, but for starters, try this:
100 years AFTER the 'death' of Christ, Tacitus called Christianity 'a deadly superstition', and Suetonius called Christians 'a class of persons given to a new and mischievous superstition'. They never said Jesus was real, and were BORN LONG AFTER HE SUPPOSEDLY DIED.
The Josephus paragraphs have been debunked for centuries...
I hope you read my previous comment, you ignorant liar. Here's some more TRUTH for you:
Josephus never even did mention Christ -- that was a forgery by Eusebius hundreds of years later. Christian scholars acknowledge this, you liar. Every biblical writer prior to Eusebius fails to mention either passage even though they relied heavily on Josephus’ writings. Bishop Eusebius is well known to approve the use of unscrupulous means to further christianity --JUST LIKE YOU.
@DocReasonable haha. So what if Tiberius didn't mention Jesus. What significance does that carry? None really. Sites from Wikipedia on up to places like carm.org and other sites front significant evidence. Find a search engine or watch a debate on youtube or another video hosting site. Why does a Bio PhD and theology "veteran" trash talk kids on youtube? Seems rather odd to me.
Drop the snide, self-righteous attitude -- you have a funny idea of what constitutes 'trash talk'. I guess it must be anything that disagrees with your little Jesus fantasy. You should learn to be more like the character and mind your manners.
As for Jesus being historical, there is not a single EYE-WITNESS ACCOUNT of him in existence. I've shown you that all of the weak 'sources' you mentioned are from at least 100 years AFTER the supposed life of Christ.
@DocReasonable Self-Righteous? Why would you tell me to be like someone you don't think exists?
And your Eusebius tidbit is controversial but not really accurate. The point has been raised but I read a paper on it refuting it a while ago. Ill message you the website if i can remember. Tacitus did in fact reference Christ and was in fact writing within a century, all in his Annals. Pliny the Younger is another good reference.
100 years AFTER the 'death' of Christ, Tacitus called Christianity 'a deadly superstition'. Similarly, Pliny the Younger merely says that Christianity was an extreme superstition to be wiped out! And he ALSO said that 100 yrs after the alleged life of Jesus.
Those are NOT eyewitness accounts of JESUS ... are you for real??
Of the 41 ancient historians who lived AT THE ALLEGED TIME OF JESUS, none wrote anything about him!!
If Noah's Ark was found, it would make international headlines. Ask your preacher, even HE will tell you it's an embarrassing lie by the Adventist charlatan Ron Wyatt.
You clearly DO NOT HAVE A CLUE about the real world, have done NO study and have retreated into a comforting fantasy world where 'Jesus loves you'.
Try reading the Bible, your God is an unrepentant mass-murderer.
yes, john mark mcmillan wrote this song, it just exploded when dcb recorded it and everyone thinks that they wrote it, when really john mark did
luvthumpergirl 2 days ago
Didn't David Crowder write this song??
SteveBonilla92 2 days ago
wow i thought david crowder wrote this song..
skunksnag 3 days ago
Ele me ama
mathos179 6 days ago
Did he say "i wrote this song about 7 years ago" at the very start of this video
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SteveBonilla92 1 week ago
@SteveBonilla92 Yep. First time I heard this song was at The Call, Nashville, 7/7/07. Search youtube for "How He loves Testemunho John Mark"
bobby603 1 week ago
@SteveBonilla92 yes he did... search for "John Mark McMillan-Story.How He loves"
ctagt1 5 days ago
Quando me lembro das dores, tristezas e decepções, vem em meu coração e ouço a Sua voz dizendo que me ama e a tua graça me basta!!!Obrigada por tudo oque me permitiste conquistar...Tu sim Senhor é Fiel!!!!
alaidespaim 1 week ago
I love coming home from an amazing church service, and just continuing that kind of worship by listening to this guy. He has such an incredible annointing.
thatcantrellguy 1 week ago
@thatcantrellguy hahahahah Amen Same here, i have been craving for some worship these days i looove iiitttt!!!
shaurialex 1 week ago in playlist worship
ESTO ES GENIAL............
anyuuuu05 2 weeks ago
Happy Valentines Day! You are loved!
johndeweb 3 weeks ago
What a wonderful song and nice way these instruments of God were used to transmit the message through this awesome music!! We're in Brazil and have a gospel rock band and this is so nice to hear what GOD has done in my life.
pgospelrock 3 weeks ago
I had no idea this wasn't kim walker's song. This is so much better his way, no offense to her she sings amazing.. But you can tell it was meant for a guy to sing in this video.
charmedfover 4 weeks ago
I LIVE IN MOBILE!!!!
WolfpackMusicGroup 1 month ago
We are His portion and He is our prize, Drawn to redemption by the grace in His eyes If grace is an ocean, we're all sinking So heaven meets earth like a sloppy wet kiss and my heart turns violently inside of my chest I don't have time to maintain these regrets when I think about the way
switkendi620 1 month ago
He is jealous for me Love's like a hurricane, I am a tree Bending beneath the weight of His wind and mercy When all of a sudden, I am unaware of these afflictions eclipsed by glory and I realize just how beautiful You are and how great your affections are for me.
Oh, how He loves us so Oh, how He loves us How He loves us so. (x2)
Yeah, He loves us Whoa, how He loves us Whoa, how He loves us Whoa, how He loves.
switkendi620 1 month ago
My worship leaders fathers just died so please pray 4 him. This song hits home 4 me because of Hurricane Irene, u never know what type of storm Jesus will throw in our lives. I was diagnosed with CP when I was 3 years old also. The list keeps going on & on so that's why this song hits a special place in my heart. I LOVE IT. My church just started singing it last year to tell you the truth.
ddague78 1 month ago
“The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc., because it recognized the Jews for what they were. I am moving back toward the time in which a fifteen-hundred-year-long tradition was implemented. I recognize the representatives of this race as pestilent for the state and for the Church, and perhaps I am thereby doing Christianity a great service by pushing them out of schools and public functions.' -- Hitler to Bishop Wilhelm Berning
DocReasonable 1 month ago
WRONG...I would rather look at facts rather than opinions of people who base their thoughts on opinion. You have spouted off the same stuff so much you believe yourself. Your youtube site proves that. Christians weren't pleased with the crucifixion of Christ but Christ taught forgiveness for His murderers and for His followers to do the same. BTW any group Nazi or otherwise can claim to be a Christian but that does not make them one any more than a basketball jersey makes you basketball player.
revdgrant 1 month ago
@revdgrant
Archbishop Robert Runcie has asserted that: 'Without centuries of Christian antisemitism, Hitler's passionate hatred would never have been so fervently echoed...because for centuries Christians have held Jews collectively responsible for the death of Jesus. On Good Friday Jews, have in times past, cowered behind locked doors with fear of a Christian mob seeking 'revenge' for deicide. Without the action of Christian minds through the centuries, the Holocaust is unthinkable.'
DocReasonable 1 month ago
@edilaniolocutor Então cara... Essa é a versão original, jonh mark escreveu e depois outros adaptaram ao estilo da banda, como o Jesus culture, jared Anderson, hillsong, fora as versões em espanhol e tal... O diante do trono gravou exatamente igual a versão do Jesus culture... Da uma olhada depois na kim
periculosidadesdomat 1 month ago
Does anyone know what effects the guitarist with the slide uses?
MichaelHaire0 1 month ago
thank you jesus
twyyouth 1 month ago
ups for the original writer :)
jlwcal 1 month ago
My version
JonnyStempMusic 1 month ago
A música esta legal mas, com o Ministério diante do trono esta muito melhor.
edilaniolocutor 2 months ago
@edilaniolocutor Não achu, eles gravaram com uma musicalidade mtu boa, mas prefiro eles...
Mas como gosto não se discute
jesieldepaula 1 month ago
Love it. What a powerful song of grace and love.
BrentWPowers 2 months ago
I LOVE THIS SONG! :) praise Jesus. I also love how 5 or more different artists have taken this song and given it a spin. This is my fav version.
ztburch 2 months ago
I feel the power of God thru this song. I love you Jesus.
joicy64 2 months ago 3
GOD is really great and I'm so glad about all He gave me.
baianobatera 2 months ago
James Dukes tone is amazing
woffordification 3 months ago 3
His love is part of His jealousy for you and me.
isaacnmckenzie 3 months ago
Jesus é tudo, e so seremos felizes, realmente, se Ele for tudo, Jesus não serve para ser a cereja em cima do soverte, Ele tem que ser tudo, ou nada, meio coração, é coração vazio. Jesus eu te amo:-D
Lougabri 3 months ago
Y love Jesus, y love Jesus so much
abinadabe2008 3 months ago
can someone tell me what chords is that? thx :D
aleandered 4 months ago
@aleandered It's C-Am-G-F. Super simple.
nerissahatter 4 months ago
@nerissahatter close!
lazydrumhead 4 months ago
@aleandered It is in the key of B but chords are from the key of G, just put the capo. The chords are G Em D C
gustavobreak 3 months ago
Essa canção é linda demais!! Verdadeiramente Ele nos Ama!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ckpmarques 4 months ago
linda cançao
rosalvoneto32 4 months ago
Como ele me Ama, me ama, ele me ama...
LuisMoura91 4 months ago
I heard this song 2day at church
skyl3r13 4 months ago 17
I was a regular guy, going about a regular life...for 22 years. Then found Jesus, in one day. I put this down to Grace. Havnt looked back
lewecca 4 months ago 105
@lewecca Inspiring dude. godbless =)
clubsandwich77 1 month ago
@lewecca I'm so glad that you've found Jesus and His greatest, infinite and unconditional love! God bless and use your life, dude!
omegax2006 3 weeks ago
@lewecca Amen he found you brother!! And you choosed to follow amen!!!
shaurialex 1 week ago in playlist worship
Dean Farrar, writing in the Encyclopaedia Britannica, says: "That Josephus wrote the whole passage as it now stands no sane critic can believe." Bishop Warburton denounced it as "a rank forgery and a very stupid one, too." Chambers' Encyclopaedia says: "The famous passage of Josephus is generally conceded to be an interpolation."
DocReasonable 4 months ago
@DocReasonable way to nuke me with comments. Name dropping two people really doesn't tell me much, especially with all the evidence on the contrary of their views, which I presented.
santisevenX 4 months ago
@santisevenX 'all the evidence on the contrary of their views, which I presented.'
I've asked you to present evidence that ANYONE mentioned Jesus within HIS OWN 'LIFETIME'.
You have not done that, so please stop claiming you have. People aren't as stupid as you like to think they are.
DocReasonable 4 months ago
@santisevenX
I have read the entire Bible. It says THE EARTH IS FLAT, RESTS ON PILLARS, COVERED BY A BRONZE DOME, ORBITED BY THE SUN AND RAINFALL COMES FROM OUTER SPACE.
It's safe to say everything else it claims is a crock of it too.
DocReasonable 4 months ago
@DocReasonable verses?
santisevenX 4 months ago
@santisevenX
'If any MAN come to me, and HATE not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.' Luke 4 26
DocReasonable 4 months ago
@DocReasonable that's correct Doc.
santisevenX 4 months ago
@guitarbyous
If Christ was an historical character, why was it necessary to forge documents to prove his existence? Did anybody ever think of forging documents to prove the existence of any person who was really known to have lived? The early Christian forgeries are a tremendous testimony to the weakness of the Christian cause.
The early church was flooded with spurious religious writings.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
He came to my church :)
MsMusicfreak4ever 5 months ago
@DocReasonable who the heck do you think you are. Why are you so destined to ruin someones faith if you agree with it or not. It is not your place at all, everyone has their own experience with the Lord and what Jesus did for them. Don't spit out all of this crap for people when they have had their lives changed and turned away from the world and all its crap. I love knowing I have hope , not know Jesus, there is no hope.
DrumminBenji 5 months ago
@DrumminBenji
It's not a matter of whether I agree or disagree - -the FACT IS, JESUS NEVER LIVED AND THE ENTIRE STORY IS A LIE. Go back and read my comments on this, then do further research yourself, you lazy drone.
Are you just another reformed drug addict who was 'saved' by the Born-Again cult? Funny how you people are always recruited from the gutter!
Why cant they get more sophisticated members??
DocReasonable 5 months ago
santisevenX so arguing on youtube will win the battle?
DrumminBenji 5 months ago
@DrumminBenji I prefer the term to debating benji as it carries a little more construction that a simply argument. I'm not trying to win any battles man, i'm just defending the Jesus who is my everything. Is that a problem with you?
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX Not at all bro, its just tough to watch is all..
DrumminBenji 5 months ago
@DrumminBenji I hope I can also provide some relief to other Christians to know that their beliefs are secure and not all lies like Doc over here incessantly declares.
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX 'their beliefs are secure and not all lies like Doc over here incessantly declares.'
You're the liar here. Everything I've said is 100% verifiable.
The Dead Sea Scrolls include manuscripts that were written up to 68 AD, encompassing the entire 'lifetime' of Christ. There is plenty of apocrypha among the Scrolls.
If such a miracle worker had really existed in that SAME AREA, surely he would have been noted by the scribes of the time.
BUT HE WAS NOT. NO JESUS -- SORRY GUYS. :)
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable No, Doc everything you said is not 100% verifiable and anyone here can simply Google your claims and find that out. The Dead Sea scrolls may have been written to 68 A.D. but it's contents certainly do not encompass Jesus' "lifetime". He was noted by the scribes of the time, like Luke a first rate historian and a host of other NT authors and extra biblical people who did in fact take note. As far as apocrypha, certainly there was.
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX 'The Dead Sea scrolls may have been written to 68 A.D. but it's contents certainly do not encompass Jesus' "lifetime".'
The were written from 200 BC to 68 AD - -that COMPLETELY encompassed the 'lifetime' of Jesus, you lying troll. When do YOU think he lived?!
So now you're resorting to claims that Luke was a genuine scribe? Pen was NOT laid to parchment until AT LEAST 60-70 yrs after Jesus' 'death'. No scholar disputes this fact.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable haha. So now you want to cite scholarly unanimity. How was Luke not a genuine scribe Doc? It encompassed the lifetime of Jesus as far as being written through and after his lifetime but it doesn't expand our field of knowledge about him like the Gospels do. What's your point?
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX
The point about the Dead Sea Scrolls is they DO NOT MENTION JESUS, despite being written in his 'lifetime' and area of 'existence'.
However, Jesus was supposedly 'famous' throughout the Holy Lands!
'And there followed him great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan' Mat 4 25
SO WHY DID NO ONE MENTION HIM IN HIS LIFETIME?
You've yet to present anyone who did, liar.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable actually they do mention him quite frequently if you can comprehend the context clues. In regards to your last statement, at least your consistent in your insults....and your irrationality.
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX 'actually they do mention him quite frequently if you can comprehend the context clues. '
That's absolutely ridiculous -- the Dead Sea Scrolls do NOT mention Jesus, not even in 'code' -- you really are clutching at straws, aren't you?
Everything you say is rubbish, AND CAN BE CHECKED BY ANYONE.
Your 'faith' must be very weak indeed if you feel the only defense you can offer is lies and insults.
Don't you know that lying is a cardinal sin, according to your own doctrine??
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable Doc, for your viewing pleasure: 4Q246 (contains parts of Luke) and fragments of the Markian Gospel. Jose Callaghan also has some interesting work on the Dead Sea Scrolls' references to Jesus. Doc the burden of proof is still on you to dismantle the countless ancient historians and writers' testimonies. Open your eyes and be 'reasonable'.
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX
Why is it you can't name even ONE historian who wrote of Jesus DURING HIS ALLEGED LIFETIME?
And why would the Jewish Dead Sea Scrolls mention Jesus if they BELIEVE TO THIS DAY THEIR MESSIAH HAS NOT YET COME?? It's called PROPHESY, you liar.
Pathetic, weak apologist liar.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
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@santisevenX
The history of the Bible and Christianity are rich with frauds and fallacies. For instance, one of the most popular parables of the Bible (the Pericope Adulterae), was actually added to John in the 4th century. The resurrection and ascension were added to Mark years after the original text was written, and by a different author (Mark 16:9-20). But one of the most blatant forgeries for which the details are known occurred in the 1600s.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
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@santisevenX
The Mark named as the author of the Gospel of Mark, by church fathers, was a converted Jew. He would have been intimately familiar with Jewish customs, beliefs and practices. Yet in the gospel named after him, we find him misquoting the 10 Commandments, attributing what Jews think to be God's words, to Moses, and even depicting Jews as making purchases on the Sabbath. It was written anonymously 60-80CE, at least 30-years after the time set for the crucifixion.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@santisevenX
Just to clarify for you, you compulsive liar:
The Gospel of Mark (THE FIRST GOSPEL WRITTEN) DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT JESUS BEING RESURRECTED. That nonsense was added 300+ years later.
The last twelve verses, 16:9–20, are not present in two 4th-century manuscripts Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, the earliest complete manuscripts of Mark.
Therefore the legend of Christ rising from the grave is a latter-day fabrication by the Catholic church.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable The passage is disputed. However v. 9-20 are in fact found in many other old manuscripts, and we have the other 3 Gospels to go on. In addition we also have Pauline documents.
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX 'The passage is disputed. '
Of course it's disputed --you superstitious nuts dispute everything that challenges your comfortable little fantasy.
Of course we have Pauline documents. Paul was one of the main inventors of the Jesus myth.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@santisevenX
The New Testament was rewritten, heavily edited and compiled by the Catholics in the year 397 AD, with several forgeries added along the way -- such as the ENTIRE ACCOUNT OF THE ASCENSION OF JESUS AT THE END OF MARK. NONE of that garbage is in the earliest original manuscripts WHICH STILL EXIST.
If you disagree, PROVE IT.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@santisevenX
Christ is supposed to have been a Jew, and his disciples are said to have been Jewish fishermen. His language, and the language of his followers must, therefore, have been Aramaic--the language of Palestine in that age. But the Gospels are written in Greek--every one of them. Nor were they translated from some other language. This proves that they were not written by Christ's disciples, or by any of the early Christians.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable Actually it doesn't. It was not uncommon for people to be multilingual at the time. They would speak Hebrew for their religion (Judaism) Aramaic for geographic reasons, and Greek and Latin because they were apart of the Roman Empire, all of which is common knowledge. Also you don't know for sure that they were written in Greek, only distributed in Greek.
santisevenX 4 months ago
@santisevenX 'It was not uncommon for people to be multilingual at the time. '
Not for illiterate, uneducated fishermen it wasn't. Nor would they have been capable of writing in ANY language.
We DO know the New Testament was written in Greek, if you want to argue against that you really ARE desperate!
DocReasonable 4 months ago
@DocReasonable Your making too many assumptions here you simply can't back up. You don't have to be very educated to know multiple languages. Little kids can imitate parents in the household and pick up multiple languages quite quickly because they are around it constantly, same with these guys. And I already gave you reasons why they would know multiple languages. We know it was distributed in Greek Doc, not that it was originally written in Greek.
santisevenX 4 months ago
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@santisevenX 'We know it was distributed in Greek Doc, not that it was originally written in Greek.'
So what you're saying is that the Greek manuscripts of the NT were TRANSLATED from Hebrew/Aramaic, adding a complete extra level of potential textual error.
Odd that no scholar on Earth shares your 'view'.
And since when are uneducated subsistence fisherman so literate, at ANY time in history??
DocReasonable 4 months ago
@DocReasonable No matter how much "evidence" you post you can never turn any of us believers from the path that we are on. If you take time to get to know God's word (not read it to prove it wrong) you learn that God just dramatically changes your life to way I can't fully explain. But I got to tell you
"I’ve found a love, greater than life itself
I’ve found a hope, stronger and nothing compares
I once was lost, now I’m alive in You!"
SimiMyles 1 month ago
@SimiMyles
Quick lesson for you: Christians have always hated the Jews because the Jews not only 'disobeyed the Gospel of Christ' the Bible portrays them as baying for his execution.
Jews have therefore been persecuted by the Christians for as long as the New Testament have been around.
Europes Jews were slaughtered, stoned and burned by Christians for Biblical reasons including 'causing' the Black Plague - 600 years before the Christian Nazi Holocaust.
DocReasonable 1 month ago
@DocReasonable In Mathew 7:21 It says "Not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven." It is saying that there are people who claim to be followers of God that aren't that at all. Like those Christians that murdered Jews. You can't just say that all Christians are murderers because some do. I know that most legit believers in Christ that I have met don't kill people because of false beliefs.
SimiMyles 1 month ago
@SimiMyles Read Isaiah 53. It talks about Jesus dying for our sins. The interesting thing is that it was written 700 years before Jesus.
SimiMyles 1 month ago
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@SimiMyles
The Bible actually DOES tell you to kill non-blievers, however.
'But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.' - Jesus, Luke 19:17
'... unbelievers shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB. And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever. ' Rev 14:10-11
Looks like you're mistaken.
DocReasonable 1 month ago
@DocReasonable You can't judge that God tells us to kill unbelievers. When does he actually say "kill unbelievers". Read Isaiah 53, it talks about jesus dying on the cross for our sins and it was written 700 years before he existed. Doesn't that prove his existence?
SimiMyles 2 weeks ago
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@SimiMyles 'Read Isaiah 53, it talks about jesus dying on the cross for our sins '
No it doesn't, you retard. Why would an Orthodox Jew be writing a story about Jesus being true? The Jews say their Messiah HAS NEVER COME! And it is THEIR religion, so THEY should know, idiot.
DocReasonable 2 weeks ago
@SimiMyles 'When does he actually say 'kill unbelievers?'
Dt 17:1-5 'And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heavens, which I have not commanded. Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing and shalt STONE them with stones, till they die'
There are several others too, I ca post those if you want.
DocReasonable 2 weeks ago
@DocReasonable I was just reading in my Bible John 8:7. It says "So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, 'He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first." Now I'm not denying that Deuteronomy says that. And I'm certainly not doubting that there are other verses that condemn people. But Jesus, the Son of God, never condemned anyone. Who do you represent? The condemnation of judging others, or Jesus Christ?
thatcantrellguy 2 weeks ago
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@thatcantrellguy 'Jesus, the Son of God, never condemned anyone.'
What do you think THIS is:
'He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned.' - Jesus, Mark 16:16
'In flaming fire take vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction' 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
DocReasonable 2 weeks ago 3
@DocReasonable You should go read the Bible and some non-revisionist history ... biblical Christians do not hate the Jews they have a heart to reach them as Jesus did ... they forgive as Jesus' example on the cross taught them. The Nazis were not Christians. Take the time to check it out.
revdgrant 1 month ago
@revdgrant
WRONG, all Nazis WERE Christians, just as modern day neo-Nazi groups are ALL christians as well.
Christians despise Jews for supposedly rejecting Jesus as the Messiah and demanding that he be crucified. This is no big secret you retard, ask around.
DocReasonable 1 month ago
@santisevenX
Works were forged in the names of the apostles, and even in the name of Christ. The greatest Christian teachers taught that it was a virtue to deceive and lie for the glory of the faith. Dean Milman, the standard Christian historian, says: 'Pious fraud was admitted and avowed.' The Rev. Dr. Giles writes: 'There can be no doubt that great numbers of books were then written with no other view than to deceive.'
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@santisevenX
Matthew says Jesus was born when Herod was King of Judea. Luke says he was born when Cyrenius was Governor of Syria. He could not have been born during the administration of these tow rulers for Herod died in the year 4 B.C., and Cyrenius, who, in Roman history is Quirinius, did not become Governor of Syria until ten years later. Between Matthew and Luke, there is, therefore, a contradiction of at least ten years, as to the time of Christ's birth.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable A commonly quoted verse that does on the surface apparently contradict Luke. However, In stating that Quirinius controlled the Syrian area, Luke doesn't use the official political title of "Governor" ("legatus"), but the broader term "hegemon" which is a ruling officer or procurator. This means that Quirinius may not have been the official governor of Judea, but he was in charge of the census because he was a more capable and trusted servant of Rome than Saturninus.
santisevenX 4 months ago
@santisevenX In order to secure efficiency and dispatch, it may well have been that Augustus put Quirinius in charge of the census-enrollment in Syria between the close of Saturninus's administration and the beginning of Varus's term of service in 7 B.C. It was doubtless because of his competent handling of the 7 B.C. census that Augustus later put him in charge of the 7 A.D. census.Archer also says that Roman history records Quirinius leading the effort to quell rebels in the area at time.
santisevenX 4 months ago
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@santisevenX 'So the universe created itself?'
No, it was either created by a tribal desert warlord (Hebrew) or it was created by a giant snake (Australian Aborigines).
Pick ONE, and explain WHY IT MAKES MORE SENSE THAN THE OTHER.
DocReasonable 4 months ago
@santisevenX
Some of the books left out of the Bible by the Catholics who voted on what would go in:
Book of Jasher, Book of the Covenant, Book of Nathan, Book of Gad, Book of Samuel, Visions of Iddo, Acts of Uzziah, Acts of Solomon, Three Thousand Proverbs of Solomon, A Thousand and Five Songs of Solomon, Chronicles of the Kings of Judah, Chronicles of the Kings of Israel and so many more that were excluded or destroyed by the Church and the believers must follow without question.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@santisevenX
There are, in total, 67 crucial scriptural books MISSING FROM THE BIBLE.
How do we know this? BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE 67 BOOKS ARE REFERRED TO BY NAME IN THE BIBLE ITSELF.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DrumminBenji
How do you know your Jewish-Muslim God created the universe? How do you know it wasn't any one of millions of OTHER possible entities?
Can you answer SENSIBLY...?
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable @santisevenX Jesus loves both of you more then words can describe, stop splitting up the body of Christ and look at the bigger picture. please.
DrumminBenji 5 months ago
@DrumminBenji Bro, DocReason isnt a Christian. I am doing what is commanded of me in the Bible my friend, to give an answer for my beliefs so that people might come to know Jesus. that is the big picture.
santisevenX 5 months ago
@DrumminBenji
The Bigger Picture reveals that there was NEVER a Jesus.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
Of the 41 ancient historians who lived at the time of Jesus or just after, none write anything about him.........interesting.........and the entire NT an eternal afterlife is only mentioned in Mathew 12. 2-3 the only thing your cruddy cult has to offer humanity is only mentioned in a few lines (one would have to consider its credibility), yet every other thing is mentioned, even how one should take a crap. Talk about thin on evidence.....and you have the hubris to question science
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable Wow. I don't know where you are getting your information from man but it is quite fallacious and on the contrary to a majority of scholars who look into the life of the historical Jesus. How am I questioning science Doc? Your statements in your latest response are lacking in clarity. If you would care to expound...
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX
My statements are 100% correct and verifiable. There are NO EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS OF JESUS FROM ANYONE AND HE WAS NOT EVEN MENTIONED UNTIL AROUND 60 YEARS AFTER HIS SUPPOSED DEATH.
As I've said, if you DO have any accounts of Jesus from his 'lifetime', NOT 100+ YEARS LATER, please provide links and sources right here.
So far I've seen nothing from you.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable Well that's too bad because Josephus was 1st Century, Tacitus was 1st Century, Pliny the Younger was late 1st Century. Most real scholars unlike yourself will place significance and authenticity on any source from within two centuries of Jesus' life. Not to mention I haven't even cited the canonical Gospels and their accuracy, reliability, and historicity. In addition we have creeds from Philippians and Corinthians that predate the writing of the NT and that is a fact acknowledge
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX
Stop lying, if you wouldn't mind. It's very easy to debunk.
Pliny the Younger mentioned 'christ' in 106 AD, when outlining how he punished 'evil' christians.
Tacitus mentioned 'chrestus' in 116 AD, and called christianity 'a most mischievous superstition' at that time.
BOTH ARE SECOND CENTURY, BOZO!
The Josephus 'mention' is allegedly from 93 AD, but scholars almost universally dismiss this as a much later forgery by Eusebius, for very good reasons that I stated earlier.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable I'm afraid scholars do not universally dismiss that. What credible scholars believe that and have you looked at evidence against that? Because I have as i mentioned and it is completely and utterly refuted. You also did nothing to diminish the credibility in any of my sources as authentic and supported by contemporary scholarship. Celsus is a good secular source (2nd Century) that I forgot to mention. So you have your work cut out for you to hold to your irrational claim.
santisevenX 5 months ago
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@santisevenX 'Celsus is a good secular source (2nd Century) that I forgot to mention'
According to Celsus in 180 AD, 'Jesus has no standing in the Hebrew Bible prophecies and talk of his resurrection was foolishness.'
How would Celsus have known if Jesus really existed or not, as he lived 150 YEARS AFTER THE STORY?
Either way, Celsus condemned the Christians as lying sycophants who fabricated a massive fiction. He was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
by atheists and agnostics, surprisingly the ones who discovered it. 1 Cor. 15:3-8 pertaining to Jesus' Resurrection. Lucian of Samosata is another good 2nd century writer mentioning Jesus being crucified, Tertullian-late 2nd Century, Phlegon-1st Century Historian who mentions Jesus and the darkness of the day he was crucified. HISTORY proves Jesus did in fact exist, contrary to your opinion, unless you can somehow discredit the writings many writers and historians scholars say are indeed real
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX
You just never stop failing, do you?
'This darkness was not recorded by the two greatest contemporary scientists of the time, Seneca and Pliny the Elder. These writers attempted to record all known contemporary geological and astronomical phenomenon, which makes their omission of this event a serious deterrent to regarding it as historical. It is also not mentioned by Josephus, who certainly would have noted it.'
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable Reasonable assumptions I guess, but certainly not concrete evidence and certainly not definitive. But this matter really isn't the topic here Doc, at least not right now. Jesus' historicity is and so far you have failed to knock any of my sources with sound refutation.
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX
You're just in denial, I guess that's understandable. Must be tough to find out you've wasted your entire life believing a lie.
I've SHOWN you that all of those 'sources' DID NOT MENTION JESUS UNTIL THE SECOND CENTURY, yet you call that 'no evidence'. Jesus was supposedly surrounded by scribes, BUT NONE WROTE OF HIM.
Oh well, just going on living your little dream forever.
'But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, slay them before me.' Luke 19 27
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable I think the majority of scholars have a contrary view for good reason Doc. So to recap this, not only have you not addressed the many ancient writers I listed, you decide to end all your efforts by ripping a verse out of the context of a parable ( argumentatively fallacious), told by an imaginary man (according to you) and trying to say what....?
santisevenX 5 months ago
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@santisevenX
I've addressed EVERY SINGLE ONE of the 2nd century writers you mindlessly parroted, and debunked your nonsense on every level. Perhaps you missed this one:
According to Celsus in 180 AD, 'Jesus has no standing in the Hebrew Bible prophecies and talk of his resurrection was foolishness.'
Celsus condemned the Christians as lying sycophants who fabricated a massive fiction. He was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
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DocReasonable 5 months ago
I think the greatest evidence of God's existence is the universe and creation itself.
I love this song so much, makes me tear up every time (:
sthinatheasianone 5 months ago
One last thing, as an encouragement to all who would bother to read these comments and believe in God. The Bible is meaningless without the guidance of the Spirit and God's love. If we don't read it with the Holy Spirit and love, we will be just like the Pharisees who are experts of the law but has no God. God bless.
glooer 5 months ago
@glooer 'The Bible is meaningless'
Yes, it certainly is. Here's an example:
Isaiah 36:12 'But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?'
YES, that is in the Bible - -look it up for yourself.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
Also I would like to point out that there is no need for me to come and argue especially on youtube, because God has already won against the world. And according to Docreasonable's studies suggested that there is nothing in any thing from history or archeology to prove the Bible. But if he doesn't know about the Red Sea sea bridge littered with the remains of the Egyptian army who pursued the Israelites. And Noahs arch on the mountains of Turkey, I don't know where he's been.
glooer 5 months ago
@glooer 'But if he doesn't know about the Red Sea sea bridge littered with the remains of the Egyptian army who pursued the Israelites. And Noahs arch on the mountains of Turkey'
Those claims of the late Ron Wyatt have been debunked
The Israel Antiquities Authority finds that Exodus did not happen. Of all the people who would want the Torah events to be true, it would be the Israel Antiquities Authority! And they have the money to mount the research --only to come up empty-handed every time.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
I'd like to apologize for the pointless conversation here on this page that wastes everyone's space on this commenting page. But I would like to say that the reason I am not angry at DocReasonable here for calling me a liar is because he is not insulting me, but the God who has been with me all these years, maybe he can pick apart the Bible by his own standards but he can't disprove what He has done for me all these years. Again sorry about this stupid internet fight.
glooer 5 months ago
@DocReasonable. If one were to really research it they would find that it's just as easy to prove Jesus' life as it is to prove Abe Lincoln's. What's cool about that is Abe made a lot of people free who needed it, AND Jesus made/makes EVERYONE free if they'll just receive it! :D
jayhawkntx71 5 months ago
I can't stand the fact that people think that David Crowder wrote this, this guy deserves all of the credit
ezfingerboarder 5 months ago
There's no such thing as Jesus. There are no records of him ever existing.
OOPS!!!!
DocReasonable 5 months ago
No there is not any physical evidence. However, when you have a relationship with him, you can actually feel that love. It is the most wonderful peaceful feeling in the entire world. And if I'm completely wrong for believing in something that doesn't exist then I'd rather spend my entire life believing in Him and feeling His love and mercy every day than to not ever feel that and to die and be wrong. I have nothing to lose by believing in HIm but could lose everything if I am wrong.
Kravgirl80 5 months ago
@Kravgirl80
The Bible also tells you:
'Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. ' 1 Corinthians 14:34-36
'Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands. ' 1 Peter 3:1
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable for the 1 Corinthians' case, Paul says so because the women of the Church in Corinth are not there to worship or to serve God but to gossip, socialize and gain control so it is better for them not to speak at all.
And for the 1 Peter also says that the husband should love the wife as if she is his own body, that also means that the husband should submit to his wife's needs as if they are his own.
glooer 5 months ago
@glooer 'that also means that the husband should submit to his wife's needs as if they are his own.'
NBo, there is nothing like that in the bible. Just misogynist crap like:
'Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. ' 1 Corinthians 14:34-36
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable I told you about why Paul said that in the 1st Corinthians, because the women were misleading people from God, and this statement is directed to them. Understand the context before you place your judgement on God.
glooer 5 months ago
@DocReasonable As for 1st Peter 3:7 says: Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.
I means that the husbands shall be the guard of their wive heart and let nothing hurt them.
But I know that your heart won't except it no matter how I argue, all I can do is to pray for you.
Peace.
glooer 5 months ago
@glooer
For every 'nice' verse in the Bible, there is an opposite evil one. The Quran is exactly the same.
It doesn't concern you that your book is so full of contradictions?
Jesus said:
'But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.' Luke 19 27
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@glooer 'For the 1 Corinthians' case, Paul says so because the women of the Church in Corinth are not there to worship or to serve God but to gossip, socialize and gain control'
No, the chapter says NONE of that - -why are you lying here? Quote the verses you claim to get this from.
Paul is clearly referring to ALL women.
Also:
1 Timothy 2:11
'Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.'
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable I think our conversation can end here, unless you do more background research on the subject matter, because the Bible is a history book, and there is a lot behind its account. Peace.
glooer 5 months ago
@glooer
OK, well I guess you've just proven you're a liar by refusing to quote the imaginary verses you alluded to earlier from 1 Corinthians. If you feel you have to lie for your faith, then you faith is very weak. A shame you've shown this to your fellows.
And the Bible is NOT a history book, it's rather quite well known and revered as a HOLY book that forms the basis of a religion called Christianity.
Speak no more to me, liar.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable If you find a bible with commentary, you will find much background info on the Church of Corinth. If you read MORE you will find that the Bible matched exactly to the historical events. Go and study.
glooer 5 months ago
@glooer 'If you read MORE you will find that the Bible matched exactly to the historical events. Go and study.'
I've done my study, o' smug one. NOTHING in the Bible matches up with actual, known history or archaeology.
There is NO evidence for the existence of Jesus from the time he is said to have lived. NO Roman or Jewish records.
A Bible with COMMENTARY? You mean a Bible with EXCUSES. Have you not learned that it is forbidden to ADD to the word of God?
Truly, you revel in ignorance.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable Even if they matched up you probably still won't believe in God, just to let you know, judging me based the little you know about me is also a dangerous move. You don't know what I've been through so it is pointless to call me ignorant.
glooer 5 months ago
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DocReasonable 5 months ago
@glooer 'Even if they matched up you probably still won't believe in God'
Don't be so stupid -- if the Bible matched up with FACT, I WOULD believe in God and Jesus. But the stories of the Bible go AGAINST ALL KNOWN FACTS of history, science, biology, geology, astronomy -- you name it.
As for 'judging' you, all I know about you is that you've been willing to lie to defend a precarious position. I think that shows very poor integrity.
'A dangerous move'..? Are you actually THREATENING me?
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@glooer 'Sorry about this stupid internet fight.'
And so you should be, you compulsive liar.
If Noah's Ark was found, it would make international headlines. Ask your preacher, even HE will tell you it's an embarrassing lie by the Adventist charlatan Ron Wyatt.
You clearly DO NOT HAVE A CLUE about the real world, have done NO study and have retreated into a comforting fantasy world where 'Jesus loves you'.
EX-ADDICT MUCH?
Try reading the Bible, your God is an unrepentant mass-murderer.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable If you just want to be rude to me, than I have nothing to say to you.
glooer 5 months ago
@glooer
NO, I'm only interested in pointing out that you're a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR WITH NO SHAME.
Only fringe lunatics and charlatans claim that Noah's Ark has actually been found. Some religious archaeologists are still looking for it, but most religious people agree that the ark story was just SYMBOLIC.
If it HAD been found, don't you think there would be endless pilgrimages to it be all mainstream Christians, Jews and Muslims? Ask yourself why that isn't happening, you clueless person.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable what are you even doing on this video? your just being a straight jackass man. Not only do you not know what your talking about all, you're being rude and offensive, trademarks of the modern atheist unfortunately while you parrot bad arguments you googled and pasted onto here. No life...
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX 'Not only do you not know what your talking about all'
Tell me what I've gotten wrong. I have a PhD in biology and I've been studying theology for 20 years, so I'd be interested if you can teach me anything further.
'you parrot bad arguments you googled '
That's an extremely churlish and uninformed comment to make. If you have any evidence against my thoroughly researched and verifiable statements, how about presenting it?
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable First off, tell me these apparent contradictions in the Bible so we can address them. My "uninformed" comment simply stands after reading some of your outrageously erroneous comments to Glooer.
A PhD in biology is great in all honesty, however I don't see how that is supposed to establish credibility in the context of this conversation. Studying theology for twenty years, I wonder how you went about studying.
santisevenX 5 months ago
@DocReasonable I need to apologize for calling you what I did. I was honestly angry at your previous posts but it doesnt warrant rudeness on my part as well.
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX 'I was honestly angry at your previous posts '
Why? I was only stating the truth. Why does the truth make you angry?
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable No ignorance makes me angry. For instance you said there is no evidence of Jesus. On the contrary, there are forty texts of antiquity on Jesus, four times as the Roman Emperor at the time ( Tiberius). We have many texts corroborating the Gospels from Jewish Historians ( Josephus, Serapion) to secular writers like Tacitus, Lucian, Suetonius, and several others. Even most atheists I run into agree Jesus was a real person.
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX 'No ignorance makes me angry.'
You must really hate yourself then. There are too many LIES in your comment to address in one go, but for starters, try this:
100 years AFTER the 'death' of Christ, Tacitus called Christianity 'a deadly superstition', and Suetonius called Christians 'a class of persons given to a new and mischievous superstition'. They never said Jesus was real, and were BORN LONG AFTER HE SUPPOSEDLY DIED.
The Josephus paragraphs have been debunked for centuries...
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@santisevenX
I hope you read my previous comment, you ignorant liar. Here's some more TRUTH for you:
Josephus never even did mention Christ -- that was a forgery by Eusebius hundreds of years later. Christian scholars acknowledge this, you liar. Every biblical writer prior to Eusebius fails to mention either passage even though they relied heavily on Josephus’ writings. Bishop Eusebius is well known to approve the use of unscrupulous means to further christianity --JUST LIKE YOU.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@santisevenX
Make sure you read my TWO previous comments, you ignorant liar for the church.
Tiberius NEVER mentioned Jesus -- EVER.
Can you provide a link, source or citation? Do you even know what those things ARE?
Or could you just admit you're a liar?
I know you're just going to storm off now, complaining about being insulted!
LIAR.
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable haha. So what if Tiberius didn't mention Jesus. What significance does that carry? None really. Sites from Wikipedia on up to places like carm.org and other sites front significant evidence. Find a search engine or watch a debate on youtube or another video hosting site. Why does a Bio PhD and theology "veteran" trash talk kids on youtube? Seems rather odd to me.
santisevenX 5 months ago
@santisevenX
Drop the snide, self-righteous attitude -- you have a funny idea of what constitutes 'trash talk'. I guess it must be anything that disagrees with your little Jesus fantasy. You should learn to be more like the character and mind your manners.
As for Jesus being historical, there is not a single EYE-WITNESS ACCOUNT of him in existence. I've shown you that all of the weak 'sources' you mentioned are from at least 100 years AFTER the supposed life of Christ.
Can you do better?
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@DocReasonable Self-Righteous? Why would you tell me to be like someone you don't think exists?
And your Eusebius tidbit is controversial but not really accurate. The point has been raised but I read a paper on it refuting it a while ago. Ill message you the website if i can remember. Tacitus did in fact reference Christ and was in fact writing within a century, all in his Annals. Pliny the Younger is another good reference.
santisevenX 5 months ago
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@santisevenX
100 years AFTER the 'death' of Christ, Tacitus called Christianity 'a deadly superstition'. Similarly, Pliny the Younger merely says that Christianity was an extreme superstition to be wiped out! And he ALSO said that 100 yrs after the alleged life of Jesus.
Those are NOT eyewitness accounts of JESUS ... are you for real??
Of the 41 ancient historians who lived AT THE ALLEGED TIME OF JESUS, none wrote anything about him!!
DocReasonable 5 months ago
@glooer 'Sorry about this stupid internet fight.'
And so you should be, you compulsive liar.
If Noah's Ark was found, it would make international headlines. Ask your preacher, even HE will tell you it's an embarrassing lie by the Adventist charlatan Ron Wyatt.
You clearly DO NOT HAVE A CLUE about the real world, have done NO study and have retreated into a comforting fantasy world where 'Jesus loves you'.
Try reading the Bible, your God is an unrepentant mass-murderer.
DocReasonable 5 months ago