israel biggest threat to world peace. they lie about Iran, they warmonger against the whole world, they have nukes, they have apartheid, they refuse peace, they refuse 2state solution, they refuse to stop build illegal settlements, they refuse to sign the NPT treaty, they refuse to let IAEA personnel inside nuclear facilities, they have attack some 5 nations during the last 30 yrs they have refuse to end the occupation and blockade they refuse to follow international law and UN resolutions!
we should take a step back and truley realize what is comming about in this world... its greater than the usa and russia its the world that will pay for this not only us..world war 3 will be one of nuclear weapons...we should all get along and work together , if people would realize that by not working together were hurting ourselves... just imagine how advanced we would be as a people if we just stopped killing people for nott thinking the same way we do...barbaric... america and Russia
I like the interviewer, she is pretty - but very inteligent. And it seems, she is seriously interested and wants Jürgen to tell what he really things about the current situation. Unlike those kind of interview in the "free" western medias.
yes they are because they have to survive it is a strategic strike they know once they have nukes they will try them on israel fact cant people see iran is the problem not israel how stupid people are. ISrael has a right to live just like we all do.
@itdaddy85 that's BS iran didn't attack anybady nothing such as israel has ever exsist, palestinians HAS THE RIGHT TO LIVE, it's a shame u denied the exsistence of a whole nation even though more than 60 years passed palestinians are still here and they say we exsist unlike the lies u've been spreadin, (land with no people for people with no land) if i was in the place of iran i'd be scared to death and i would struggle to get nuclear weapons, cause U preach and behave different
@Prohumani If you really are that naive to believe there is something remotely resembling free press in Putin's quasitotalitarian Russia then I have beachfront property for sale in Omsk. Wanna buy?
One week after Iraq was defeated Iran sent a letter to the Us president offering complete change in Iran foreign(not economic) polices towards the U.S.
Unfortunately the media was too focused on Iraq to cover the fact that bush sad "we don't talk to evil".
I told many Americans this and even showed them the CNN report .
Then I realized lie or no lie, the AMERICANS DO want the war.
Any & all threats - even remote ones - to the military & NUCLEAR superiority of the 60-year-old apartheid Zionist colonial outpost of US weapon manufacturers & war profiteers (US MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX) in Palestine must be quickly eliminated, whether it's thru illegal & unprovoked invasion wrapped in false claims of WMD's in Iraq or thru repeated false claims of election fraud & nuclear weapon program in Iran. Creating riots is a prelude "Psyc Op" to soften up public in West for an attack.
Information is everything. Simply bombard the US population with bollocks over Iran's DANGERDANGERNOW!!! schtick repeatedly and it will stick and they will buy into it. Human beings will react to information given to them. Hence the dumbing down of every single person on this planet. I have no love for the Iranian government, but its people are humans and by rights my family too. There is enough suffering in Iraq, I reject the repeat of such an event.
Isn't 2010 the year Germany makes it's final extortion payment to the Jews for the war?
Isn't it amusing to note that the puppetedent of the United States and Iran are both using assumed names instead of the names they were born with?
Schools destroy education and those graduates go into government then governments destroy democracy
Look around at the the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. Poverty is the mother of crime. Our prisons are filling as governments write more laws.
This United States is going to back the elections in Honduras after the military coup against President Zeyala. America way of telling latin america about democracy building. Zeyala was taken at gun point and flown directly to a us military airfield in Honduras. The US still has its military in the country and aids the country to maintain the coup leaders in power. The coup leaders were trained by the "schools of the americas" from inside the United States.
Now Barack Obama is placing 7 military bases in Colombia with more American soldiers in the region. Main Stream News report the troop increase in Afghanistan but they fail to inform the American public of the troop presences in Colombia. The Navy fleet and the billions of dollars it gives Colombia. That money could be used to build jobs, schools, clinics, in the U.S. or fight poverty. Instead it goes to Pakistan war machine and Colombia war machine. Countries who have a devastating Human Rights
the united states spends 1.14 trillion dollars on its military, if they used this money to better the world there would be schools and hospitals all around the world. If they wanted too, they would have done it by now. But they wont, because a small minority of elite assholes like to stay in control , personally i think this group is just mad because they have a small penis.
Show me a economic powerhouse that doesn't spend alot of money on defense. You have to protect your country. That's why virtually all countries have a military force.
We Americans are becoming increasingly aware of how dishonest our media is. That is why in the USA, the most trusted news sources right now are comedy shows.
What the Fuck is wrong with you moron russian asshole stop bashing usa as you are fed by us jerk... if it wasnt for us hitler would have hilt er you assholes russian sausage eaters
Hey, shitcunt, you need to decide if you're Iranian or American? Your profile says Iranian. Either way, your posting is ignorant knuckledragging garbage and you're a fucking moron. Got that, cunt?
the holohoax. no wonder jews run around trying to attack freedom of academia with stale name calling. they fear people look at the facts as told outside of hollyjewwood....its so obvious....liars fear freedom of inquiry...holohoax insisters must be investigated!
why beat around the bush. jews buy off western politicians and control its media to dupe everyone into israels agenda. thats the bottom line. the west is under occupation. only one type will disagree.
very clever guy and he's right. once again US uses false pretences and demands to harass an independent nation in order to attack and destroy it in the future. absolutely amoral. regrettably there is a lot of americans that do believe official american propaganda aka free democratic american press-media.
And would you rather go back to a phase of denial known as isolationism? As the world is going to hell around you how much will it take for you to pick your head up and say "that's enough?"
what do you mean *hell*? from my understanding, the hell is what US did to Iraq. most iraqis are longing for Houssain's times now. absolute isolationism is not good and just impossible but principle of non-intervention should be followed.
Iraq was a hell long before the war in Iraq/ Most Iraqis? Why don't you at least try asking the Kurds and the Shiites that instead of making baseless claims. I'm sure the Sunnis would agree with you but that's only because they were in power before America came along. non-intervention is a naive concept and is a idea based on fear. A fear of getting your hands dirty.
you are just repeating your official propaganda about Iraq being hell before american invasion. that's boring, buddy, because it's false. before war in Quwait Iraq was prosperous country with free, accessible, and the best medicine in Middle East; with free and accessible education, etc. there were no conflicts neither between followers of different religions nor between different national groups. so, who was dissatisfied with Houssain? mobs, islamic fanatics, and kurd and shiah independists.
Free for who? Sunnis maybe. But if you are shiite or kurd expect get you house bombed.
mikkitiny, are you so braindead and dead set with your hatred of anything America does that you are ready to kiss the ass of a cruel dictator? If you are going to criticize the US foreign policy at least do so with dignity and intelligence.
No conflicts between groups? Are you stupid? Thats because the Sunnis were in charge. They massacred shiites and kurds.
what a stupid allegation about hatred to America. i consider America as a great country with great achievements. still, there are things done by US i can not spiritually agree with. the previous government (bushmen) has done a lot to put people all around the world against America. Iraq is one of their infamous actions. hopefully the new administration will change the bad traditions. in fact, Obama has already started changing american policies to others.
mikkitiny, criticizing Bush's policies is one thing. Hell that's what makes this country so great. But inventing a the claim that Iraq had a Utopian society before we came along is dishonest and incredibly false.
Iraq definitely would be better off without american agression and *help*. it never was an utopian society but was one of the most developed states in Middle East.
mikkitiny, maybe if you'd manage to pull off your lips from Saddams cock once in a while you'd see Saddams regime wasn't the utopian society you've been dreaming about.
Saddam was a madman. His sons were rapists. A power hungry dictator who threatens neighboring countries and exterminates his own people isn't an example of order. Its just another form of chaos.
Certain groups? Haha. Which groups would that be? Could it be the people that were against saddam when the US put him into power? Those people? So what he was doing was killing enemies of the US that were outraged over america's funding of a dictarorship. See? There's more to your facts than your admitting ;)
I'd be pissed off too, I'd try to topple saddam too if I knew he was funded by the US and I was an Iraqi back then, you would have too, unless of course you were gaining from the US.
Actually no. The groups he was killing had nothing to do with supporting or not supporting Saddam's regime.
The idea that Saddam was an American ally or that we openly funded him is a dead full of parroted rumors and half truths. Saddam was far from an ally especially since he oversaw the seizure of international oil interests. Many other experts including foreign affairs scholars also claim there is little to suggest U.S. involvement in Iraq in the 1960s.
If that's all you have to say I won't bother responding. I just wanted to point out that there is such a thing called an oligarchy who has complete control over the CIA. We also have these lovely things called private/contract military, who the CIA gets most of their intel from. Are you one of those people that thinks everyone plays fair and rich people don't use their money to push their agendas? You simply believe they don't have an agenda? What?
Well unlike you I don't make random hair brained judgments based on rumor. Even if they had an agenda this whole ultimate power that you think this oligarchy has is completely unrealistic and is spawned primarily from paranoia and fear mongering. Are you one of those people who parrot nutcase ideologues just because it sparks your emotions?
What I just did was called simple logic. Put yourself in their shoes. WW2 ends, the world locks down into a new war, picking sides quickly, resources become key to securing a future for your way of life.
When you see the majority of the middle east being friendly with the soviet union, what would you do in their shoes, with one of, if not the best intelligence agency in the world. You're killing me. Just be honest with yourself.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the CIA is impotent, but if you add up all the crackpot conspiracy theories like Pearl Harbor to 9/11, then you'd have an organization not only more powerful that the United States, but the united efforts of the entire human race. They are not some shadow superpower. They have real limitation and finite assets, so why would they waste those assets chasing down every potential threat?
Stop with the strawmen. Let's stick to the oligarchy, the cia, and iraq. Like we had started with. And these meeting between our worlds' "elites". What do you think they talk about, man? Sports? Their stocks? I know you think you're being a realist, but your argument has been nothing but denial. They own the finite assets, we use debt based fiat money. Why do you think the fed exists? Why do you think americans pay interest on their money to the fed? For fun?
These things do spark my emotions very much, but the emotion is the biproduct, not the vice. My vice is getting to the REALITY of situations. Not the status quo. I don't understand people like you. Cowards, who would rather lie to themselves and feel safe, than be honest about what kind of people are really in the world, and the lengths they go to to ensure they get what they want with as little risk as possible.
If you cannot stay on topic. Please, stop replyining now, do not waste my time.
You claim you're trying to get to the reality of situations but in a hilarious fashion you are far from it since you believe in one of the most unrealistic notions known to man. This has nothing with being safe you ignoramus. If it was I wouldn't believe the government is an incompetent mess.
In fact it is you who wants to feel comfortable. These conspiracies are developed in order to make sense of a senseless world where chaos reigns supreme.
Are you ever going to answer the questions I asked. We were getting somewhere with your last post, and then you come back to the insults. Just answer the questions please. Here. Let's you and me make a deal. You're not allowed to post comments unless the have a "?" in them. Deal?
Are you ever going to provide facts or at least evidence to you claims instead of speculations? And I'll comment as much as I wish. If you don't like my responses you can leave whenever you wish.
Damn right I don't feel comfortable. I don't deny things that make me feel uncomfortable, I face accept them for what they are. Evil does exist in this world, and you're doing yourself a serious injustice to deny that. Oh well, pride goeth before the fall. ;)
I never denied there is evil in this world. But there is one thing in believing in evil and believing in crackpot conspiracies fueled primarily by paranoia and speculation.
You just said the CIA is not some all powerful organization, you've tried to say there is not an international oligarchy who is seeking to solidify their control, you said they cannot assassinate and they cannot change geopolitcal events, even though there are countless times in history we can point to where they tried and/or succeeded.
We must be talking about different evils. What did you think we were talking about here? Someone stealing stereos? Someone robbing a store?
I never said couldn't assassinate. What I've saying is they can't assassinate everyone whose ever been a significant threat. And most of those times you've claimed you can point to the CIA has been primarily speculation. The evil you believe in is an age old and out dated concept. An unrealistic evil that only exists in the confines of the human mind.
Chaos? In our digital world? Hahaha. Right. How chaotic can it be when you have super computers that can keep track of all your calls like a music library, or statisical advertising, or nanny states running supreme and growing more powerful everyday. You realize how many CCTV cameras are in London? You realize how many are being set up here? I find it funny you like to claim this is all chaotic. Is that your way to make yourself more comfortable? ;)
Honestly you really need to stop watching movies and televisions shows. And you really think the government has eyes everywhere? And who makes those machines do you think? Human error is everywhere.
Wow. Denial, denial, denial.... and yup, you finished off with a denial too. I'm impressed. Have you been paying attention to the news? Have you ever been to London? You read up on FISA? You see bush give retroactive immunity to the telecoms? You read about the FBI whistleblowers, the ATT whistleblowers? You read up on the latest technology? You read into the patriot act?
A global information network, of which the Internet is the seed, has the illusion of
promising fingertip access to the worlds information. Despite the paranoia, even modest moves towards increasing digital collections and services will be strongly affected by future copyright and licensing regimes, as well as prohibitive costs for digitization and support of technical infrastructure.
Using computer vision to identify a person in a photo is much harder than identifying a license plate. License plates dont hide behind reflective glass, they put dark letters on a light background, and optical character recognition makes short work of only 26 letters and 10 numbers. A face is something entirely different, and it has both plagued and excited security
experts for well over a decade. Facial-recognition systems have also been a favorite with Hollywood thrillers.
The idea that saddas was an american puppet, and was funded under the table by the CIA should really be no surprise to you. Let's review a bit of Iraqi history, shall we?
In 1958 Iraq withdraws from the UK run CENTO and begins to warm to the soviet union. That means oil goes to them instead of us at a time where the cold war was just kicking up. So right off the bat, motives for the UK and USA to begin stirring up dissent. Saddam comes to power in 1968, dissolves the republic
Roger Morris, a former State Department foreign service officer who was on the NSC staff during the Johnson and Nixon administrations, contends that little is known about CIA involvement in the Iraqi coups because the Middle East did not hold as much strategic importance in the 1960s and most senior U.S. officials involved there at the time have since died.
Again. One guys opinion. If you have to quote people to support your case. YOU don't have a case.
Little known does not mean nothing happened, man. Good lord. The middle east did not hold a strategic importance in the 60s? Are you kidding me?!?! You just showed you have little to no understanding of the topic, and no respect enough for their culture to do a proper research of their history before you start passing judgement on their lives.
Says the guy whose inable to quote anyone. Using the bandwagon doesn't make much of a case either.
bweazel, please cut the condescending bullshit. It only proves that you just another douchy little asshole who believes he's right about everything because he believes in everything he sees on the internet.
Usually, the ones calling names are the ones trying to exit the convo. Answer my questions please. Since I'm really the only one asking any questions here that are actually on the topic being discussed. Please, rejoin or fuck off ;)
After 9/11, facial recognition systems popped up seemingly everywhere in search of terrorists. A couple of glowing headlines were made, including one from before the attacks when 19 criminals were identified with facial recognition at Super Bowl XXXV. But they were marked by problems with false positives (wherein the computer makes incorrect ID matches). By 2003, airports and police departments were shutting down facial-recognition deployments due to lack of satisfactory results.
n "1984," the government oppresses its citizens via mind and information control. This could never happen in the United States. U.S. government agencies are widely decentralized and isolated.
Just getting the networks in a single federal agency unified is daunting; getting all the agencies to have a single, unified data-sharing mechanism is a pipe dream. Look at it this way: The U.S. Department of Defense possesses more networks than some countries possess computers.
Information control cannot happen in this country? Pure denial. Who do you think gives the buearucracy it's intel? Hmmm?
A pipe dream? I've got an idea. Dismantle em all. That'd fix it. I don't see the military having such a big problem with getting intel across to the lower ranks, or to the air force, or the marines, navy. So on. They all coordinate very well, unless of course they mess up, then they like to use that excuse. Oh ya, the CIA isn't under DoD's authority. You should know better
They all coordinate very well? Is that why Iraq has been completely stabilized as well as Afghanistan? Is that why terrorist attacks have been largely prevented from being carried out? Oh wait. None of that has happened.
Yeah and the bureaucracy has been really competent and free from error right?
Tied to this idea that were being visually tracked is the notion that all government entities are tied into one big uber-system able to seamlessly share whatever data they please. According to Sean Varah, CEO of image analysis company MotionDSP, this is absurd. Many systems arent even connected to the Internet, much less some vast surveillance web, and traffic agencies remain largely autonomous from one another.
I said the military coordinates with itself well. Again, nice straw man. You're good at those. Our original topic there was the bureaucracy not communicating between itself. Which means CIA not telling the military what they need to know, and the military doesn't have anyone there because the CIA is supposedly doing it already. Not only a straw man, you're putting words in my mouth too. Nice! When did I say it was free from error? I'm very against the bureaucracy, I just said dismantle it. Haha
Most of the systems out there are municipal. The city of Redwood City cannot tap into the Millbrae camera system, Varah said. And theyre certainly not national. Also remember that the majority of cameras out there are in private businesses—McDonalds isnt out there saying, Oh, sure, well share our cameras with you, Mr. intelligence Agency.
You do realize, if they have it connected to a network, and data is being sent across the internet, the cia has access to that? You going to keep denying this stuff? They don't need permission anymore. That's the whole point of all this. You obviously do not realize, or care to realize what is possible with technology today, and what they've already done to implement this complete control. Can they see it ALL in real time? No. But them being able to is very unsettling.
Again these CIA claims are pure speculation. They can't just spread themselves thin looking for and hoping to stumble on new and possible dangers. Instead the always had to identify and focus on those that are already clear and present. If your Soviet neighbor is trying to set fire to your house, you can't be worrying about the Arab down the block. Speaking of putting words in other peoples mouths that something you've been quite prolific in doing also.
The Kurds (who I think you should read up on a bit) settle in northern Iraq, which contains a good deal of Iraq's oil, who we can only assume was trying to be taken from the locals by force, and without pay, to be given to western corporations, more reason to take land from people and piss them off. The Kurds were fighting oppression from saddams government. Are you really going to play dumb and act like we didn't have any interest in this?
So? One guys opinion. I'm not sure if Kuwait was CIA involvement or blowback from them losing control of saddam. Could be either. You're getting off topic though. Reply to the questions please.
Actually it's much more than ones guys opinion. In fact using the bandwagon as a way to prove your side of the argument is correct doesn't mean you have much of a case either.
There have always been deep rivalries between the civilian and military agencies with the CIA and the State Departments Bureau of Intelligence Research often lined up against the Defense Intelligence Agency and the various intelligence branches of the four military services. This division was particularly profound during the debates over Soviet military power and the verification of Soviet and American arms control agreements.
Yes, you do, I haven't tried to attack you once, but I could go back thru and point out all the times you've attacked me personally if you'd like. Shall I?
The intelligence community has never functioned as a community. With the exception of the production of the National Intelligence Estimates, which are indeed a corporate product of the community, there is limited sharing of the most important and sensitive documents collected by the various intelligence agencies, and very little esprit de corps within the community.
So yours and the media's stance on this is nothing more than double think and a contradiction. You support the people saddam was killing, and you support the government that put him in power (that would be us just in case you needed another reminder). You support both sides, just like the bankers, except you don't realize you do.
So what's it going to be? You going to keep being a sheep? Or are you going to see there are powerful people manipulating the world against each other. Wake up.
Just so you know we didn't put him in power. He placed himself in power.
But do you want to know a little secret I've learned
bweazel, you ignorant braindead twoofer? The CIA wants you to believe they are that powerful. It helps spread the false idea that the CIA is some omnipresent agency that can commit assassinations and change geopolitical events at a whim. Isn't that ironic?
Just so you know. We did put him in power. You are in complete and utter denial. Twoofer? Haha. I haven't seen anyone use that in awhile and be serious about it. Thanks for the laugh. You don't believe the CIA is powerful? Actually, now reading over your post again, is there anything at all that I can respond to?
The only part I can respond to: Isn't it ironic. Do you even know what irony is? Obviously not, from your word usage. Why exactly do you believe they are not above the law?
I've been the only one providing the facts. All you've been able to conjure at ad-hominems and condescending tones. Are you really that pompous to believe the rich have so much ultimate power even those the most and mainly the middle-east is in such a major cluster fuck?
Does it make you feel better to believe that rich people do not have that great of control over every single financial aspect of your life?
I really can't believe your statement here. Where did you even come up with that? The most powerful country in the world, somehow doesn't have the most powerful intelligence agency in the world? Do you really believe our rich play fair? Do you really believe the CIA just sits around all day? Please back your statement up with some actual support.
Don't believe me? All you have to do is look at history. You remember the Area 51 alien claims? The CIA actively encouraged those alien claims to spread disinfo. It is the by product of an organization that must work in secrecy. Secrecy is a vacuum and nothing fills a vacuum like paranoid speculation.The truth is the CIA has never been this all-seeing, all knowling, global illuminati.
bweazel, maybe if you tried pulling your head out of your ass you'd see that it has everything to with the topic at hand. And you asked several questions that I've already answered.
bweazel, life won't always give you the answer you wish to hear. I realize you have trouble understanding that with the rudderless world we live in but everything you've just said is pure speculation.
I wish to hear? Sir, I'm the one going against the flow, I'm the one searching for answers. You are the one that has obviously found all the answers which life has apparently given you. Haha. You are a complete contradiction. Shoo.
Again. Your continuance in calling this world chaotic is nothing more than your out, as calling it controlled is mine. Although I think this boat you're talking about does have a rudder. And it's getting bigger and more easy to control every day
LOL!!! Going against the flow? You see this is why I call conspiracy nuts the ultimate projectors. You don't need answers. You already believe you have the answers. If you didn't then you wouldn't be throwing a fit like a little child. And no I never said I know the answers. All I'm saying is that the universe won't always give you one.
You seriously believe the government is more powerful than the oligarchy it buys money from at interest? Hahaha, that's the best laugh I've had tonight reading this. Not only do you not believe the collected wealth of 1000 years isn't more powerful than a goverment that changes every 4 years, but you don't even believe a shadow government exists. I guess they got all that money and just said, our family is going to sit this one out, and hope everyone respects our wealth. Something like that?
bweazel, do you even know what an oligarchy is or are you just parroting complex words you don't even know the meaning? Oligarchies have been tyrannical throughout history, being completely reliant on public servitude to exist. Since the US is pretty high on the Democracy Index I'd doubt your claims hold much truth to them.
Of course, man. Are you out of things to talk about? ;)
The oligarchy, is a group of people that rule a control based on ancestory, money, religious posts, so on. In our case, their poison of choice is money. Pretty much, the best at the game who have passed that wealth down from generation to generation. Who own the largest shares in all of our most important corporations, who meet in private with other world oligarchs and talk about ... who knows? Haha.
So what positions do these people rule? What seats do they hold? Can you even bother to point any of this out? Again, those are corporations, not positions of government.
Positions? Not sure I get you, they own everything. They really don't need to hold positions. They have committees though, CFR, trilateral commission, bilderberg group. Many of our politicians in office now are in these same groups. Many of these politicians owe their careers to these people and their donations, which is why they come speak in the first place. Sort of like a puppet show, then you can send them back to washington and have them vote how they know you'd like.
CFR? LOL!!! The Council on Foreign Relations is basically the idiot at work who blurts out every retarded idea that goes through his head, even though 95 percent of his suggestions get shot down for being completely fucking stupid and the other five percent the company was probably going to do anyway.
In the late 1950s, the Council tried to convince Congress to work with the Communist North Vietnamese to prevent the Vietnam war, and Congress told them to suck it.
The Council has been advocating everything from nuclear non-proliferation to merging the U.S., Canada and Mexico to ending the war on terror.
Notice how the U.S. Government has done none of those things. That's the thing, they are influential in that Washington pays attention to them, but nothing makes any of the CFR's demands binding. The government can take the advice or leave it and it mostly does the latter.
The underlying claim behind both the Bilderburgers and Trilateral Commission is that these groups of wealthy men have been working to create the infamous One-World Government that you'll see pop up in most of these conspiracy theories. They want a totalitarian regime that will enslave all of mankind, all at once.
Of course these guys have had decades to establish their plan, but instead they apparently opted for plan B, One-World Clusterfuck.
Europe hates America; the Middle East is more fucked than a German whore on coupon day; all China cares about is exporting delicious lead paint; and North Korea is still run by that crazy fucker with the big granny glasses. It's almost as if the result of their "one-world government" conspiracy looks exactly like the random chaos of geopolitical events we've seen for the last few thousand years.
Don't get me wrong; I suspect both of these groups would like to rule the world (so would I, in fact). But in the grand scheme of political and economic power worldwide, a few hundred important guys basically amount to a fart at a Motorhead concert. It's too much to assume that even within the groups that there is agreement about what the Master Plan should look like, since they're made up of people from different countries, political parties and competing corporations.
That's where I disagree with you. Billions of dollars go a long way. When you can be a majority shareholder in the most important media, war, energy, political, manufacturing corporations in this country, you have HUGE control. And when you can own a corporation, thru a corporation, thru a trust, thru a hedgefund, back thru a corporation, to some futures, back to a trust, back to a hedge fund and back to a corporation, tracing who really owns the world would be a daunting task.
It's as simple as turning a democracy into a corporatocracy, weazeling the laws around to suit the corporations, and then being majority shareholders in the corporation, and bam, you just side stepped congress. That simple man. I really don't see why you think it's so impossible or chaotic. The invention of modern technology and business law has made every last one of these things possible for them. Give it time. They're chipping away their blocks everyday. Can you see it?
I think most of them take it too far, I believe it is a one world economy they seek first and foremost. But you're only fooling yourself if you think a one world economy will not lead into a one world government. Where the money goes, the government will follow. If you enjoy a soverign nation, you better wake up and demand we stop heading down this direction. Listen to the propaganda, man. The dollar is crashing, we need the IMF, blah blah. What do you think the UN is there for?
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they've been successful in everything they've set out for, but it's very obvious they do have an agenda, and they're getting little bits and pieces over the course of what will probably be hundreds of years, it's already been one hundred since they really got it going strong. Technology is helping them and hendering them at the same time.
No of course not, nothing is binding, but let me ask you this, do you bite the hand that feeds you?
It should be very obvious to you by now that they do OWN politicians. Especially the ones in the key parts of our government. How else can you explain the executive power grabs? The will of the people? Crazy presidents year after year? We know they "own" the clintons, bushs, I think they've made their move in on the kennedys, obama, his whole damn staff practically. The reason they don't succeed all the way across is it would be VERY difficult for them to control all of congress.
But to deny that they have taken our executive branch, judicial branch, intelligence services and our military should not even be arguable. They control all those things through money. Congress is really our last hope, but even these days it looks like they're trying to squeeze congress's role out of the constitution, if you can't beat em, erase em ;)
All that is pretty obvious, for you to deny they control these things is just ridiculous.
They are using all the same slop they used to invade Iraq when it comes to Iran. I hope people are smart enough to realize it. Israel was really happy about the war in Afghanistan and Iraq. They were thrilled to bits. They are watering at the mouth over Iran. Iran has not attacked anyone or even threatened anyone.
My definition of Iranian Propaganda - is the manipulation of statements with, "They BELIEVE, MAY BE, etc.", all aimed at created speculative FEAR in the masses to support acts of war (Sanctions and Censors), which may or may not be used to falsely justify, just like Iraq, a united (UN) military strike and occupation of Iran, to conform it to this Not-So-New World Governing Body that currently, and in full view of the sheople, is trying to DICTATE what independent nations can and can not produce!
I am so tired . Of our u s a dirty g o v . If they would of stayed out of those places we would of bin fine ! trust me . The u s a will defend Israelis , because nobody knows this they are the hugest top force . There more powerful then the u s a Gov
Another thing suggests an imminent attack on Iran. The US has many troops in both Iraq and Afganistan.
Iran is surrounded by US troops.
If I were the leader of Iran, I would now launch preemptive attacks on ALL US bases in Iraq and then immediately have defensive bases set up on the Afghanistan border. Attacking Israel would be stupid. Israel is God's nation but America is Satan's nation.
Down with America and those who don't repent. God have mercy on Israel & His true people worldwide.
You don't know what you talking about...A preemptive attack on US bases...hahaha That's suicidal...go tell Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to do so if he wants to see his country burnt down in matter of seconds!!!!!
Iranians haven´t been and are not making nuclear weapons but if the US and Israel attack Iran then would all Iranians come to the conclusion that having nuclear weapons is a necessity for defence of the country.
Israel does nothing without the green light of the US. But it will be very stupid of either the US or Israel to attack Iran because they wouldn´t be able to annihilate Iranian nuclear knowledge and ability. They can maybe damage or destroy some Iranians installations but it would be made again very soon. Such attack will never be forgiven by Iranians and it would mean that they should prepare themselves for a very long losting war with Iranians.
"A nation of people who does not use their intelligence are no better than the animal who does not use their intelligence,therefore they are beasts of burden and stakes on the table by choice and conscent" - William Cooper This message is for those who are still sleeping tight.
Unfortunately, the US is absolutely chock full of obese, ignorrant, morons. I know, because I have to live here. There is no intelligence to speak of. sorry...
I believe those who want a War with Iran are really jealous of Iran's self sufficient technology and refusing to be followers into the One World Government. Iran knows its corrupt, and wants to stay apart from being part of this evil world domination Plan.
if anyone attacks Iran then the end ofthe world is here as the bible says. no more wars! peace not war, love no war research NWO. money are printed paper , free energy exists.
I found an old issue of Esquire in the drivers room, it is all adverstising, it sucks, but I kept it , former cia agent and his wife told how the neocons wanted to attack Iran. Liars in control of our country, operation northwoods, all of the liars, donald rumsfeld helping sell wmd to saddam, these lies and liars must be shown the error of their ways, bubba knows who has been naughty and who has been nice, please stand up bubba and choose your lover carefully.
Dont worry! no such thing could happen America is already in deep shit in Iraq and Afghanistan they can not effort another war plus Iran is far fearful and worse than Iraq
if they get attacked then the disaster that they create would be impossible.
In rhetoric, America is the land of the free and the generous, enjoying the fused blessings of a free market tempered by and joined to accelerating social welfare, bountifully distributing its unstinting largesse to the less fortunate in the world. In actual practice, the free economy is virtually gone, replaced by an imperial corporate-state Leviathan that organizes, commands, exploits the rest of society and, indeed, the rest of the world, for its own power and pelf. -Murray
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israel biggest threat to world peace. they lie about Iran, they warmonger against the whole world, they have nukes, they have apartheid, they refuse peace, they refuse 2state solution, they refuse to stop build illegal settlements, they refuse to sign the NPT treaty, they refuse to let IAEA personnel inside nuclear facilities, they have attack some 5 nations during the last 30 yrs they have refuse to end the occupation and blockade they refuse to follow international law and UN resolutions!
antekification 8 months ago
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lonenut740 10 months ago
“Don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.” - Ariel Sharon
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cloudburstlenepmhq 1 year ago
we should take a step back and truley realize what is comming about in this world... its greater than the usa and russia its the world that will pay for this not only us..world war 3 will be one of nuclear weapons...we should all get along and work together , if people would realize that by not working together were hurting ourselves... just imagine how advanced we would be as a people if we just stopped killing people for nott thinking the same way we do...barbaric... america and Russia
dills2403 1 year ago
I like the interviewer, she is pretty - but very inteligent. And it seems, she is seriously interested and wants Jürgen to tell what he really things about the current situation. Unlike those kind of interview in the "free" western medias.
UKKarsten 1 year ago 9
The NWO doesn't even bother to make up new lies anymore they just recycle the same old disproved bs.
I think the House of Rothschild is underestimating the intelligence of the masses or do I overestimate it?
kojilalom 1 year ago
yes they are because they have to survive it is a strategic strike they know once they have nukes they will try them on israel fact cant people see iran is the problem not israel how stupid people are. ISrael has a right to live just like we all do.
itdaddy85 1 year ago
@itdaddy85 that's BS iran didn't attack anybady nothing such as israel has ever exsist, palestinians HAS THE RIGHT TO LIVE, it's a shame u denied the exsistence of a whole nation even though more than 60 years passed palestinians are still here and they say we exsist unlike the lies u've been spreadin, (land with no people for people with no land) if i was in the place of iran i'd be scared to death and i would struggle to get nuclear weapons, cause U preach and behave different
toohnooch 1 year ago
@itdaddy85 you ugly racist warmonger. You obviously doesnt know shit.
antekification 8 months ago
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berlinbueso 1 year ago
danke dir jürgen! :))
free press only on RT not on ARD or RTL or ZDF......danke nach russland
und an die deutschen medien:"an euren lügenden zungen hängt gift und blut! ich hasse die gez und die medien in deutschland. ich hasse euch!"
DANKE RT & JÜRGEN E.
Prohumani 1 year ago 2
@Prohumani If you really are that naive to believe there is something remotely resembling free press in Putin's quasitotalitarian Russia then I have beachfront property for sale in Omsk. Wanna buy?
LKHK76 1 year ago
@Prohumani RT berichtet sehr gut über Europa und USA. Aber sie können nicht alles über Russland sagen. Starke Pressezensur in Russland.
reafdaw01 1 year ago
How ashamed to see that RT (a russian TV) is so much more FREE that the press in the so called free world. Nice interview!
notepadpublishing 1 year ago 14
well, still there are some fare people in the west.
torbat1357 1 year ago
Mmmm. I'm moving to Berlin. Man, RT employees some lovely ladies.
bweazel 1 year ago
Americans always amaze me.
Iraq was a war based on lies.
One week after Iraq was defeated Iran sent a letter to the Us president offering complete change in Iran foreign(not economic) polices towards the U.S.
Unfortunately the media was too focused on Iraq to cover the fact that bush sad "we don't talk to evil".
I told many Americans this and even showed them the CNN report .
Then I realized lie or no lie, the AMERICANS DO want the war.
johanexxxx 2 years ago 2
Pssshh, blame it on Isreal, Americans really don't give a shit about Iran.
bweazel 1 year ago
and many people believe this! lol
Seniium 2 years ago
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THIS NAZIST DONT SPEAK ENGLISH
albatrozism 2 years ago
Your grammar is also not exactly superior.
VRDundee 2 years ago 2
Iran must wipe israel of the map soon
and free the world from the evil jews
AMIRsarkari 2 years ago
only the insane repeat the same things over & over expecting different results;)........(the us believing iraq lies & now iran lies)
jmay420 2 years ago
No only the passionate, you have no passion thts why your name will never be heard in history.
SeeN0More 2 years ago
Any & all threats - even remote ones - to the military & NUCLEAR superiority of the 60-year-old apartheid Zionist colonial outpost of US weapon manufacturers & war profiteers (US MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX) in Palestine must be quickly eliminated, whether it's thru illegal & unprovoked invasion wrapped in false claims of WMD's in Iraq or thru repeated false claims of election fraud & nuclear weapon program in Iran. Creating riots is a prelude "Psyc Op" to soften up public in West for an attack.
jmmckeever 2 years ago
Information is everything. Simply bombard the US population with bollocks over Iran's DANGERDANGERNOW!!! schtick repeatedly and it will stick and they will buy into it. Human beings will react to information given to them. Hence the dumbing down of every single person on this planet. I have no love for the Iranian government, but its people are humans and by rights my family too. There is enough suffering in Iraq, I reject the repeat of such an event.
bad4ever2001 2 years ago 2
Isn't 2010 the year Germany makes it's final extortion payment to the Jews for the war?
Isn't it amusing to note that the puppetedent of the United States and Iran are both using assumed names instead of the names they were born with?
Schools destroy education and those graduates go into government then governments destroy democracy
Look around at the the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. Poverty is the mother of crime. Our prisons are filling as governments write more laws.
Slavestorms 2 years ago
Iraq was the biggest blunder in American history next to Vietnam and attacking Canada in 1812.
Americans have lost the Iraq war mostly due to incompetence of troops who turned a cake walk into a catastrophe .
Afghanistan too is lost now because it was neglected by Bush in his mad rush to steal Iraq Oil for the elite 1% of American billionaires.
dave777blaster 2 years ago
You know why the US wants to invade Iran... another take over like Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan... they've been in Turkey for decades...
What good is the UN for? I'm all for getting rid of it. Its another scam!
aldona99 2 years ago
This United States is going to back the elections in Honduras after the military coup against President Zeyala. America way of telling latin america about democracy building. Zeyala was taken at gun point and flown directly to a us military airfield in Honduras. The US still has its military in the country and aids the country to maintain the coup leaders in power. The coup leaders were trained by the "schools of the americas" from inside the United States.
EmeterioBetances 2 years ago
Now Barack Obama is placing 7 military bases in Colombia with more American soldiers in the region. Main Stream News report the troop increase in Afghanistan but they fail to inform the American public of the troop presences in Colombia. The Navy fleet and the billions of dollars it gives Colombia. That money could be used to build jobs, schools, clinics, in the U.S. or fight poverty. Instead it goes to Pakistan war machine and Colombia war machine. Countries who have a devastating Human Rights
EmeterioBetances 2 years ago
the united states spends 1.14 trillion dollars on its military, if they used this money to better the world there would be schools and hospitals all around the world. If they wanted too, they would have done it by now. But they wont, because a small minority of elite assholes like to stay in control , personally i think this group is just mad because they have a small penis.
666j1 2 years ago 3
Show me a economic powerhouse that doesn't spend alot of money on defense. You have to protect your country. That's why virtually all countries have a military force.
danielharmonizer 2 years ago
We Americans are becoming increasingly aware of how dishonest our media is. That is why in the USA, the most trusted news sources right now are comedy shows.
I wish I was making that up.
MarshalltheArtist 2 years ago 2
99% of Americans are obese ignorant morons, and that's as much as they need. The other 1% mostly emigrated to Canada anyhow.
MoscowMaestro 2 years ago
What the Fuck is wrong with you moron russian asshole stop bashing usa as you are fed by us jerk... if it wasnt for us hitler would have hilt er you assholes russian sausage eaters
teemsar 2 years ago
Hey, shitcunt, you need to decide if you're Iranian or American? Your profile says Iranian. Either way, your posting is ignorant knuckledragging garbage and you're a fucking moron. Got that, cunt?
MoscowMaestro 2 years ago
America needs to stop trying to police the world.
disturbed341 2 years ago 3
He is just angry jews control hollywood and are good with money.
You can imagine if you lived in a trailer park and you could count your teeth on your fingers you might be a little upset to.
It's ok little racist cartman, I will still make movies for you to watch on your little tv in your trailer.
eviloprah 2 years ago
How does RT find these clowns?
Gkklein 2 years ago 2
the holohoax. no wonder jews run around trying to attack freedom of academia with stale name calling. they fear people look at the facts as told outside of hollyjewwood....its so obvious....liars fear freedom of inquiry...holohoax insisters must be investigated!
georgiantriangle 2 years ago
why beat around the bush. jews buy off western politicians and control its media to dupe everyone into israels agenda. thats the bottom line. the west is under occupation. only one type will disagree.
georgiantriangle 2 years ago
very clever guy and he's right. once again US uses false pretences and demands to harass an independent nation in order to attack and destroy it in the future. absolutely amoral. regrettably there is a lot of americans that do believe official american propaganda aka free democratic american press-media.
mikkitiny 2 years ago
Surprising still there are people who still believe in the oppressive Iranian government.
TheAntiV 2 years ago
just to complete your thought; political nature of foreign governments is none of american business although US authorities pretend it is.
mikkitiny 2 years ago
And would you rather go back to a phase of denial known as isolationism? As the world is going to hell around you how much will it take for you to pick your head up and say "that's enough?"
TheAntiV 2 years ago
what do you mean *hell*? from my understanding, the hell is what US did to Iraq. most iraqis are longing for Houssain's times now. absolute isolationism is not good and just impossible but principle of non-intervention should be followed.
mikkitiny 2 years ago
Iraq was a hell long before the war in Iraq/ Most Iraqis? Why don't you at least try asking the Kurds and the Shiites that instead of making baseless claims. I'm sure the Sunnis would agree with you but that's only because they were in power before America came along. non-intervention is a naive concept and is a idea based on fear. A fear of getting your hands dirty.
TheAntiV 2 years ago
you are just repeating your official propaganda about Iraq being hell before american invasion. that's boring, buddy, because it's false. before war in Quwait Iraq was prosperous country with free, accessible, and the best medicine in Middle East; with free and accessible education, etc. there were no conflicts neither between followers of different religions nor between different national groups. so, who was dissatisfied with Houssain? mobs, islamic fanatics, and kurd and shiah independists.
mikkitiny 2 years ago
Free for who? Sunnis maybe. But if you are shiite or kurd expect get you house bombed.
mikkitiny, are you so braindead and dead set with your hatred of anything America does that you are ready to kiss the ass of a cruel dictator? If you are going to criticize the US foreign policy at least do so with dignity and intelligence.
No conflicts between groups? Are you stupid? Thats because the Sunnis were in charge. They massacred shiites and kurds.
TheAntiV 2 years ago
what a stupid allegation about hatred to America. i consider America as a great country with great achievements. still, there are things done by US i can not spiritually agree with. the previous government (bushmen) has done a lot to put people all around the world against America. Iraq is one of their infamous actions. hopefully the new administration will change the bad traditions. in fact, Obama has already started changing american policies to others.
mikkitiny 2 years ago
mikkitiny, criticizing Bush's policies is one thing. Hell that's what makes this country so great. But inventing a the claim that Iraq had a Utopian society before we came along is dishonest and incredibly false.
TheAntiV 2 years ago
Iraq definitely would be better off without american agression and *help*. it never was an utopian society but was one of the most developed states in Middle East.
mikkitiny 2 years ago
Developed in what ways? It's skills in genocide?
TheAntiV 2 years ago
for example, in having free, universal, and accessible health care system. do you have one?
1 mln killed iraqis since onslaught of american intervention is not genocide? 160 killed shiits definitely is. lol.
mikkitiny 2 years ago
mikkitiny, maybe if you'd manage to pull off your lips from Saddams cock once in a while you'd see Saddams regime wasn't the utopian society you've been dreaming about.
Saddam was a madman. His sons were rapists. A power hungry dictator who threatens neighboring countries and exterminates his own people isn't an example of order. Its just another form of chaos.
TheAntiV 2 years ago
whatever, buddy. i don't care your allegations.
mikkitiny 2 years ago
Hey, if you don't like facts that's your problem.
TheAntiV 2 years ago
i don't see any facts in your allegations, just desinformation taken from propaganda sources.
mikkitiny 2 years ago
So Saddam didn't try to kill off certain groups amongst the Iraqi population? Were they abducted by aliens then?
TheAntiV 2 years ago
of course, he did not. no, they were abducted by CIA. sounds more real.
mikkitiny 2 years ago
Certain groups? Haha. Which groups would that be? Could it be the people that were against saddam when the US put him into power? Those people? So what he was doing was killing enemies of the US that were outraged over america's funding of a dictarorship. See? There's more to your facts than your admitting ;)
I'd be pissed off too, I'd try to topple saddam too if I knew he was funded by the US and I was an Iraqi back then, you would have too, unless of course you were gaining from the US.
bweazel 1 year ago
Actually no. The groups he was killing had nothing to do with supporting or not supporting Saddam's regime.
The idea that Saddam was an American ally or that we openly funded him is a dead full of parroted rumors and half truths. Saddam was far from an ally especially since he oversaw the seizure of international oil interests. Many other experts including foreign affairs scholars also claim there is little to suggest U.S. involvement in Iraq in the 1960s.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
If that's all you have to say I won't bother responding. I just wanted to point out that there is such a thing called an oligarchy who has complete control over the CIA. We also have these lovely things called private/contract military, who the CIA gets most of their intel from. Are you one of those people that thinks everyone plays fair and rich people don't use their money to push their agendas? You simply believe they don't have an agenda? What?
bweazel 1 year ago
Well unlike you I don't make random hair brained judgments based on rumor. Even if they had an agenda this whole ultimate power that you think this oligarchy has is completely unrealistic and is spawned primarily from paranoia and fear mongering. Are you one of those people who parrot nutcase ideologues just because it sparks your emotions?
TheAntiV 1 year ago
What I just did was called simple logic. Put yourself in their shoes. WW2 ends, the world locks down into a new war, picking sides quickly, resources become key to securing a future for your way of life.
When you see the majority of the middle east being friendly with the soviet union, what would you do in their shoes, with one of, if not the best intelligence agency in the world. You're killing me. Just be honest with yourself.
bweazel 1 year ago
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the CIA is impotent, but if you add up all the crackpot conspiracy theories like Pearl Harbor to 9/11, then you'd have an organization not only more powerful that the United States, but the united efforts of the entire human race. They are not some shadow superpower. They have real limitation and finite assets, so why would they waste those assets chasing down every potential threat?
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Stop with the strawmen. Let's stick to the oligarchy, the cia, and iraq. Like we had started with. And these meeting between our worlds' "elites". What do you think they talk about, man? Sports? Their stocks? I know you think you're being a realist, but your argument has been nothing but denial. They own the finite assets, we use debt based fiat money. Why do you think the fed exists? Why do you think americans pay interest on their money to the fed? For fun?
bweazel 1 year ago
These things do spark my emotions very much, but the emotion is the biproduct, not the vice. My vice is getting to the REALITY of situations. Not the status quo. I don't understand people like you. Cowards, who would rather lie to themselves and feel safe, than be honest about what kind of people are really in the world, and the lengths they go to to ensure they get what they want with as little risk as possible.
If you cannot stay on topic. Please, stop replyining now, do not waste my time.
bweazel 1 year ago
You claim you're trying to get to the reality of situations but in a hilarious fashion you are far from it since you believe in one of the most unrealistic notions known to man. This has nothing with being safe you ignoramus. If it was I wouldn't believe the government is an incompetent mess.
In fact it is you who wants to feel comfortable. These conspiracies are developed in order to make sense of a senseless world where chaos reigns supreme.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Are you ever going to answer the questions I asked. We were getting somewhere with your last post, and then you come back to the insults. Just answer the questions please. Here. Let's you and me make a deal. You're not allowed to post comments unless the have a "?" in them. Deal?
bweazel 1 year ago
Are you ever going to provide facts or at least evidence to you claims instead of speculations? And I'll comment as much as I wish. If you don't like my responses you can leave whenever you wish.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Haha. That's why they're called conspiracies, man. They're pretty hard to prove, but it starts with an open mind. Give it a try.
bweazel 1 year ago
Actually it mostly starts with baseless rumor and tends to violate the laws of falsifiability.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Damn right I don't feel comfortable. I don't deny things that make me feel uncomfortable, I face accept them for what they are. Evil does exist in this world, and you're doing yourself a serious injustice to deny that. Oh well, pride goeth before the fall. ;)
bweazel 1 year ago
I never denied there is evil in this world. But there is one thing in believing in evil and believing in crackpot conspiracies fueled primarily by paranoia and speculation.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
You just said the CIA is not some all powerful organization, you've tried to say there is not an international oligarchy who is seeking to solidify their control, you said they cannot assassinate and they cannot change geopolitcal events, even though there are countless times in history we can point to where they tried and/or succeeded.
We must be talking about different evils. What did you think we were talking about here? Someone stealing stereos? Someone robbing a store?
bweazel 1 year ago
I never said couldn't assassinate. What I've saying is they can't assassinate everyone whose ever been a significant threat. And most of those times you've claimed you can point to the CIA has been primarily speculation. The evil you believe in is an age old and out dated concept. An unrealistic evil that only exists in the confines of the human mind.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Chaos? In our digital world? Hahaha. Right. How chaotic can it be when you have super computers that can keep track of all your calls like a music library, or statisical advertising, or nanny states running supreme and growing more powerful everyday. You realize how many CCTV cameras are in London? You realize how many are being set up here? I find it funny you like to claim this is all chaotic. Is that your way to make yourself more comfortable? ;)
bweazel 1 year ago
Honestly you really need to stop watching movies and televisions shows. And you really think the government has eyes everywhere? And who makes those machines do you think? Human error is everywhere.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Wow. Denial, denial, denial.... and yup, you finished off with a denial too. I'm impressed. Have you been paying attention to the news? Have you ever been to London? You read up on FISA? You see bush give retroactive immunity to the telecoms? You read about the FBI whistleblowers, the ATT whistleblowers? You read up on the latest technology? You read into the patriot act?
Really, how far is your head in that sand?
bweazel 1 year ago
A global information network, of which the Internet is the seed, has the illusion of
promising fingertip access to the worlds information. Despite the paranoia, even modest moves towards increasing digital collections and services will be strongly affected by future copyright and licensing regimes, as well as prohibitive costs for digitization and support of technical infrastructure.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
What does this have to do with what we were talking about? What are you even replying to with this?
bweazel 1 year ago
Using computer vision to identify a person in a photo is much harder than identifying a license plate. License plates dont hide behind reflective glass, they put dark letters on a light background, and optical character recognition makes short work of only 26 letters and 10 numbers. A face is something entirely different, and it has both plagued and excited security
experts for well over a decade. Facial-recognition systems have also been a favorite with Hollywood thrillers.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
What the hell are you replying to? Who said anything about photos or license plates? Who needs to stop watching tv shows and movies? ;)
bweazel 1 year ago
You mentioned surveillance.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
The idea that saddas was an american puppet, and was funded under the table by the CIA should really be no surprise to you. Let's review a bit of Iraqi history, shall we?
In 1958 Iraq withdraws from the UK run CENTO and begins to warm to the soviet union. That means oil goes to them instead of us at a time where the cold war was just kicking up. So right off the bat, motives for the UK and USA to begin stirring up dissent. Saddam comes to power in 1968, dissolves the republic
bweazel 1 year ago
Roger Morris, a former State Department foreign service officer who was on the NSC staff during the Johnson and Nixon administrations, contends that little is known about CIA involvement in the Iraqi coups because the Middle East did not hold as much strategic importance in the 1960s and most senior U.S. officials involved there at the time have since died.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Again. One guys opinion. If you have to quote people to support your case. YOU don't have a case.
Little known does not mean nothing happened, man. Good lord. The middle east did not hold a strategic importance in the 60s? Are you kidding me?!?! You just showed you have little to no understanding of the topic, and no respect enough for their culture to do a proper research of their history before you start passing judgement on their lives.
bweazel 1 year ago
Says the guy whose inable to quote anyone. Using the bandwagon doesn't make much of a case either.
bweazel, please cut the condescending bullshit. It only proves that you just another douchy little asshole who believes he's right about everything because he believes in everything he sees on the internet.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Usually, the ones calling names are the ones trying to exit the convo. Answer my questions please. Since I'm really the only one asking any questions here that are actually on the topic being discussed. Please, rejoin or fuck off ;)
bweazel 1 year ago
I guess hypocrisy is the key to flexibility with you isn't it?
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Hahha, care to cite your example?
bweazel 1 year ago
After 9/11, facial recognition systems popped up seemingly everywhere in search of terrorists. A couple of glowing headlines were made, including one from before the attacks when 19 criminals were identified with facial recognition at Super Bowl XXXV. But they were marked by problems with false positives (wherein the computer makes incorrect ID matches). By 2003, airports and police departments were shutting down facial-recognition deployments due to lack of satisfactory results.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Who are you talking to?
bweazel 1 year ago
n "1984," the government oppresses its citizens via mind and information control. This could never happen in the United States. U.S. government agencies are widely decentralized and isolated.
Just getting the networks in a single federal agency unified is daunting; getting all the agencies to have a single, unified data-sharing mechanism is a pipe dream. Look at it this way: The U.S. Department of Defense possesses more networks than some countries possess computers.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Information control cannot happen in this country? Pure denial. Who do you think gives the buearucracy it's intel? Hmmm?
A pipe dream? I've got an idea. Dismantle em all. That'd fix it. I don't see the military having such a big problem with getting intel across to the lower ranks, or to the air force, or the marines, navy. So on. They all coordinate very well, unless of course they mess up, then they like to use that excuse. Oh ya, the CIA isn't under DoD's authority. You should know better
bweazel 1 year ago
They all coordinate very well? Is that why Iraq has been completely stabilized as well as Afghanistan? Is that why terrorist attacks have been largely prevented from being carried out? Oh wait. None of that has happened.
Yeah and the bureaucracy has been really competent and free from error right?
Rrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Tied to this idea that were being visually tracked is the notion that all government entities are tied into one big uber-system able to seamlessly share whatever data they please. According to Sean Varah, CEO of image analysis company MotionDSP, this is absurd. Many systems arent even connected to the Internet, much less some vast surveillance web, and traffic agencies remain largely autonomous from one another.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
I said the military coordinates with itself well. Again, nice straw man. You're good at those. Our original topic there was the bureaucracy not communicating between itself. Which means CIA not telling the military what they need to know, and the military doesn't have anyone there because the CIA is supposedly doing it already. Not only a straw man, you're putting words in my mouth too. Nice! When did I say it was free from error? I'm very against the bureaucracy, I just said dismantle it. Haha
bweazel 1 year ago
Most of the systems out there are municipal. The city of Redwood City cannot tap into the Millbrae camera system, Varah said. And theyre certainly not national. Also remember that the majority of cameras out there are in private businesses—McDonalds isnt out there saying, Oh, sure, well share our cameras with you, Mr. intelligence Agency.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
You do realize, if they have it connected to a network, and data is being sent across the internet, the cia has access to that? You going to keep denying this stuff? They don't need permission anymore. That's the whole point of all this. You obviously do not realize, or care to realize what is possible with technology today, and what they've already done to implement this complete control. Can they see it ALL in real time? No. But them being able to is very unsettling.
bweazel 1 year ago
Again these CIA claims are pure speculation. They can't just spread themselves thin looking for and hoping to stumble on new and possible dangers. Instead the always had to identify and focus on those that are already clear and present. If your Soviet neighbor is trying to set fire to your house, you can't be worrying about the Arab down the block. Speaking of putting words in other peoples mouths that something you've been quite prolific in doing also.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
The Kurds (who I think you should read up on a bit) settle in northern Iraq, which contains a good deal of Iraq's oil, who we can only assume was trying to be taken from the locals by force, and without pay, to be given to western corporations, more reason to take land from people and piss them off. The Kurds were fighting oppression from saddams government. Are you really going to play dumb and act like we didn't have any interest in this?
bweazel 1 year ago
James Phillips, senior Middle East analyst for the Heritage Foundation, disagrees that Bush's war in Iraq is the result of CIA involvement.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
So? One guys opinion. I'm not sure if Kuwait was CIA involvement or blowback from them losing control of saddam. Could be either. You're getting off topic though. Reply to the questions please.
bweazel 1 year ago
Actually it's much more than ones guys opinion. In fact using the bandwagon as a way to prove your side of the argument is correct doesn't mean you have much of a case either.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
There have always been deep rivalries between the civilian and military agencies with the CIA and the State Departments Bureau of Intelligence Research often lined up against the Defense Intelligence Agency and the various intelligence branches of the four military services. This division was particularly profound during the debates over Soviet military power and the verification of Soviet and American arms control agreements.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Do I really have to point out your ad-hominems?
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Yes, you do, I haven't tried to attack you once, but I could go back thru and point out all the times you've attacked me personally if you'd like. Shall I?
bweazel 1 year ago
The intelligence community has never functioned as a community. With the exception of the production of the National Intelligence Estimates, which are indeed a corporate product of the community, there is limited sharing of the most important and sensitive documents collected by the various intelligence agencies, and very little esprit de corps within the community.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
So yours and the media's stance on this is nothing more than double think and a contradiction. You support the people saddam was killing, and you support the government that put him in power (that would be us just in case you needed another reminder). You support both sides, just like the bankers, except you don't realize you do.
So what's it going to be? You going to keep being a sheep? Or are you going to see there are powerful people manipulating the world against each other. Wake up.
bweazel 1 year ago
Just so you know we didn't put him in power. He placed himself in power.
But do you want to know a little secret I've learned
bweazel, you ignorant braindead twoofer? The CIA wants you to believe they are that powerful. It helps spread the false idea that the CIA is some omnipresent agency that can commit assassinations and change geopolitical events at a whim. Isn't that ironic?
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Just so you know. We did put him in power. You are in complete and utter denial. Twoofer? Haha. I haven't seen anyone use that in awhile and be serious about it. Thanks for the laugh. You don't believe the CIA is powerful? Actually, now reading over your post again, is there anything at all that I can respond to?
The only part I can respond to: Isn't it ironic. Do you even know what irony is? Obviously not, from your word usage. Why exactly do you believe they are not above the law?
bweazel 1 year ago
Is that why you fail again and again to provide significant evidence and stead resort to parroting rumors and hearsay?
The main problem with your theory is due to the fact you are mistaking gross incompetence for some supposed agenda.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
I'm not trying to argue fact with you, but you can't seriously believe what you're saying is fact. Are you really that pompous?
You don't believe the rich of the world have an agenda and control large parts of our intelligence agencies? Answer that please.
bweazel 1 year ago
I've been the only one providing the facts. All you've been able to conjure at ad-hominems and condescending tones. Are you really that pompous to believe the rich have so much ultimate power even those the most and mainly the middle-east is in such a major cluster fuck?
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Does it make you feel better to believe that rich people do not have that great of control over every single financial aspect of your life?
I really can't believe your statement here. Where did you even come up with that? The most powerful country in the world, somehow doesn't have the most powerful intelligence agency in the world? Do you really believe our rich play fair? Do you really believe the CIA just sits around all day? Please back your statement up with some actual support.
bweazel 1 year ago
Don't believe me? All you have to do is look at history. You remember the Area 51 alien claims? The CIA actively encouraged those alien claims to spread disinfo. It is the by product of an organization that must work in secrecy. Secrecy is a vacuum and nothing fills a vacuum like paranoid speculation.The truth is the CIA has never been this all-seeing, all knowling, global illuminati.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Area 51? Nice straw man ;) Knock that fool down! Again. Stick to the topic. please. Answer the questions I asked.
bweazel 1 year ago
bweazel, maybe if you tried pulling your head out of your ass you'd see that it has everything to with the topic at hand. And you asked several questions that I've already answered.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
bweazel, life won't always give you the answer you wish to hear. I realize you have trouble understanding that with the rudderless world we live in but everything you've just said is pure speculation.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
I wish to hear? Sir, I'm the one going against the flow, I'm the one searching for answers. You are the one that has obviously found all the answers which life has apparently given you. Haha. You are a complete contradiction. Shoo.
Again. Your continuance in calling this world chaotic is nothing more than your out, as calling it controlled is mine. Although I think this boat you're talking about does have a rudder. And it's getting bigger and more easy to control every day
bweazel 1 year ago
LOL!!! Going against the flow? You see this is why I call conspiracy nuts the ultimate projectors. You don't need answers. You already believe you have the answers. If you didn't then you wouldn't be throwing a fit like a little child. And no I never said I know the answers. All I'm saying is that the universe won't always give you one.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
I do? No I said I'm going against the flow, I don't have answers. I'm throwing a fit? Where? Haha.
The universe? No. Not yet. This planet? We're getting pretty close. ;)
bweazel 1 year ago
bweazel, do I really have to point the instances to you or can you just take responsibility for your actions?
The truth is you can't accept the fact that there is no one world shadow government.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
You seriously believe the government is more powerful than the oligarchy it buys money from at interest? Hahaha, that's the best laugh I've had tonight reading this. Not only do you not believe the collected wealth of 1000 years isn't more powerful than a goverment that changes every 4 years, but you don't even believe a shadow government exists. I guess they got all that money and just said, our family is going to sit this one out, and hope everyone respects our wealth. Something like that?
bweazel 1 year ago
bweazel, do you even know what an oligarchy is or are you just parroting complex words you don't even know the meaning? Oligarchies have been tyrannical throughout history, being completely reliant on public servitude to exist. Since the US is pretty high on the Democracy Index I'd doubt your claims hold much truth to them.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Of course, man. Are you out of things to talk about? ;)
The oligarchy, is a group of people that rule a control based on ancestory, money, religious posts, so on. In our case, their poison of choice is money. Pretty much, the best at the game who have passed that wealth down from generation to generation. Who own the largest shares in all of our most important corporations, who meet in private with other world oligarchs and talk about ... who knows? Haha.
bweazel 1 year ago
So what positions do these people rule? What seats do they hold? Can you even bother to point any of this out? Again, those are corporations, not positions of government.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Positions? Not sure I get you, they own everything. They really don't need to hold positions. They have committees though, CFR, trilateral commission, bilderberg group. Many of our politicians in office now are in these same groups. Many of these politicians owe their careers to these people and their donations, which is why they come speak in the first place. Sort of like a puppet show, then you can send them back to washington and have them vote how they know you'd like.
bweazel 1 year ago
Kept who free from scrutiny?
TheAntiV 1 year ago
CFR? LOL!!! The Council on Foreign Relations is basically the idiot at work who blurts out every retarded idea that goes through his head, even though 95 percent of his suggestions get shot down for being completely fucking stupid and the other five percent the company was probably going to do anyway.
In the late 1950s, the Council tried to convince Congress to work with the Communist North Vietnamese to prevent the Vietnam war, and Congress told them to suck it.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
The Council has been advocating everything from nuclear non-proliferation to merging the U.S., Canada and Mexico to ending the war on terror.
Notice how the U.S. Government has done none of those things. That's the thing, they are influential in that Washington pays attention to them, but nothing makes any of the CFR's demands binding. The government can take the advice or leave it and it mostly does the latter.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
The underlying claim behind both the Bilderburgers and Trilateral Commission is that these groups of wealthy men have been working to create the infamous One-World Government that you'll see pop up in most of these conspiracy theories. They want a totalitarian regime that will enslave all of mankind, all at once.
Of course these guys have had decades to establish their plan, but instead they apparently opted for plan B, One-World Clusterfuck.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Europe hates America; the Middle East is more fucked than a German whore on coupon day; all China cares about is exporting delicious lead paint; and North Korea is still run by that crazy fucker with the big granny glasses. It's almost as if the result of their "one-world government" conspiracy looks exactly like the random chaos of geopolitical events we've seen for the last few thousand years.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
Don't get me wrong; I suspect both of these groups would like to rule the world (so would I, in fact). But in the grand scheme of political and economic power worldwide, a few hundred important guys basically amount to a fart at a Motorhead concert. It's too much to assume that even within the groups that there is agreement about what the Master Plan should look like, since they're made up of people from different countries, political parties and competing corporations.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
That's where I disagree with you. Billions of dollars go a long way. When you can be a majority shareholder in the most important media, war, energy, political, manufacturing corporations in this country, you have HUGE control. And when you can own a corporation, thru a corporation, thru a trust, thru a hedgefund, back thru a corporation, to some futures, back to a trust, back to a hedge fund and back to a corporation, tracing who really owns the world would be a daunting task.
bweazel 1 year ago
It's as simple as turning a democracy into a corporatocracy, weazeling the laws around to suit the corporations, and then being majority shareholders in the corporation, and bam, you just side stepped congress. That simple man. I really don't see why you think it's so impossible or chaotic. The invention of modern technology and business law has made every last one of these things possible for them. Give it time. They're chipping away their blocks everyday. Can you see it?
bweazel 1 year ago
Oh ya. They own pretty much half of the senate too. Just food for thought. Which is easier to buy out and control? 100 guys? or 500+ guys?
bweazel 1 year ago
I think most of them take it too far, I believe it is a one world economy they seek first and foremost. But you're only fooling yourself if you think a one world economy will not lead into a one world government. Where the money goes, the government will follow. If you enjoy a soverign nation, you better wake up and demand we stop heading down this direction. Listen to the propaganda, man. The dollar is crashing, we need the IMF, blah blah. What do you think the UN is there for?
bweazel 1 year ago 2
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they've been successful in everything they've set out for, but it's very obvious they do have an agenda, and they're getting little bits and pieces over the course of what will probably be hundreds of years, it's already been one hundred since they really got it going strong. Technology is helping them and hendering them at the same time.
No of course not, nothing is binding, but let me ask you this, do you bite the hand that feeds you?
bweazel 1 year ago
It should be very obvious to you by now that they do OWN politicians. Especially the ones in the key parts of our government. How else can you explain the executive power grabs? The will of the people? Crazy presidents year after year? We know they "own" the clintons, bushs, I think they've made their move in on the kennedys, obama, his whole damn staff practically. The reason they don't succeed all the way across is it would be VERY difficult for them to control all of congress.
bweazel 1 year ago
But to deny that they have taken our executive branch, judicial branch, intelligence services and our military should not even be arguable. They control all those things through money. Congress is really our last hope, but even these days it looks like they're trying to squeeze congress's role out of the constitution, if you can't beat em, erase em ;)
All that is pretty obvious, for you to deny they control these things is just ridiculous.
bweazel 1 year ago
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Apologies. Let me correct that.
And what invention has kept our latest oligarchies free from scrutiny for the last 300 years? If you answer that one I'll respect you ;)
bweazel 1 year ago
And what invention has kept them free from scrutiny for the last 300 years? If you answer that one I'll respect you ;)
bweazel 1 year ago
Youtube comments are always a treasure trove of insight into geopolitics and international relations.
CaribDevist 2 years ago 4
They are using all the same slop they used to invade Iraq when it comes to Iran. I hope people are smart enough to realize it. Israel was really happy about the war in Afghanistan and Iraq. They were thrilled to bits. They are watering at the mouth over Iran. Iran has not attacked anyone or even threatened anyone.
PIPELINE,oil,gas, control.
Shadowbear1955 2 years ago 4
My definition of Iranian Propaganda - is the manipulation of statements with, "They BELIEVE, MAY BE, etc.", all aimed at created speculative FEAR in the masses to support acts of war (Sanctions and Censors), which may or may not be used to falsely justify, just like Iraq, a united (UN) military strike and occupation of Iran, to conform it to this Not-So-New World Governing Body that currently, and in full view of the sheople, is trying to DICTATE what independent nations can and can not produce!
nvsyru 2 years ago
I am so tired . Of our u s a dirty g o v . If they would of stayed out of those places we would of bin fine ! trust me . The u s a will defend Israelis , because nobody knows this they are the hugest top force . There more powerful then the u s a Gov
darkwinter1776 2 years ago
Another thing suggests an imminent attack on Iran. The US has many troops in both Iraq and Afganistan.
Iran is surrounded by US troops.
If I were the leader of Iran, I would now launch preemptive attacks on ALL US bases in Iraq and then immediately have defensive bases set up on the Afghanistan border. Attacking Israel would be stupid. Israel is God's nation but America is Satan's nation.
Down with America and those who don't repent. God have mercy on Israel & His true people worldwide.
TheRestrainer 2 years ago
You talk trash, idiot!!!
o11liver 2 years ago
Fuck off, you teenage troll, o11iver. No one needs a trash-talking yankee cunt like you.
MoscowMaestro 2 years ago
You don't know what you talking about...A preemptive attack on US bases...hahaha That's suicidal...go tell Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to do so if he wants to see his country burnt down in matter of seconds!!!!!
o11liver 2 years ago
Iranians haven´t been and are not making nuclear weapons but if the US and Israel attack Iran then would all Iranians come to the conclusion that having nuclear weapons is a necessity for defence of the country.
piroozz 2 years ago
I hope that the US will not go that route with Iran. I was such a mistake to go to Iraq. I am so embarassed to be American.
fenriswolf6699 2 years ago 3
lol. in fact, it definitely is!
mikkitiny 2 years ago
Israel does nothing without the green light of the US. But it will be very stupid of either the US or Israel to attack Iran because they wouldn´t be able to annihilate Iranian nuclear knowledge and ability. They can maybe damage or destroy some Iranians installations but it would be made again very soon. Such attack will never be forgiven by Iranians and it would mean that they should prepare themselves for a very long losting war with Iranians.
piroozz 2 years ago 2
"A nation of people who does not use their intelligence are no better than the animal who does not use their intelligence,therefore they are beasts of burden and stakes on the table by choice and conscent" - William Cooper This message is for those who are still sleeping tight.
MasterTerran 2 years ago
Unfortunately, the US is absolutely chock full of obese, ignorrant, morons. I know, because I have to live here. There is no intelligence to speak of. sorry...
fenriswolf6699 2 years ago 3
Well said
darkwinter1776 2 years ago
Interessant ...Merci
Axel51975 2 years ago
I believe those who want a War with Iran are really jealous of Iran's self sufficient technology and refusing to be followers into the One World Government. Iran knows its corrupt, and wants to stay apart from being part of this evil world domination Plan.
starlight1946 2 years ago
if anyone attacks Iran then the end ofthe world is here as the bible says. no more wars! peace not war, love no war research NWO. money are printed paper , free energy exists.
nwofunclub 2 years ago
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bigsoundz 2 years ago
I found an old issue of Esquire in the drivers room, it is all adverstising, it sucks, but I kept it , former cia agent and his wife told how the neocons wanted to attack Iran. Liars in control of our country, operation northwoods, all of the liars, donald rumsfeld helping sell wmd to saddam, these lies and liars must be shown the error of their ways, bubba knows who has been naughty and who has been nice, please stand up bubba and choose your lover carefully.
badattitude77769 2 years ago
Dont worry! no such thing could happen America is already in deep shit in Iraq and Afghanistan they can not effort another war plus Iran is far fearful and worse than Iraq
if they get attacked then the disaster that they create would be impossible.
kingofkindness 2 years ago 3
In rhetoric, America is the land of the free and the generous, enjoying the fused blessings of a free market tempered by and joined to accelerating social welfare, bountifully distributing its unstinting largesse to the less fortunate in the world. In actual practice, the free economy is virtually gone, replaced by an imperial corporate-state Leviathan that organizes, commands, exploits the rest of society and, indeed, the rest of the world, for its own power and pelf. -Murray
WarDogLRS 2 years ago 3
Yeah about 100 years ago
Htogrom 2 years ago
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