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  • Here's an unanswered question. What did you search to find the song at the begining?

  • i cant wait to see the mask salesmen to appear out of nowhere and say

    "ROFL you've met with a terrible fate haven't you?! //trollface"

  • @sindori005 how could you be sure though? there isn't any real evidence

  • @bestzeldagamer since the full timeline has been officially released, i would say thats all the evidence needed...

    

  • dude im no trying to be an ass but i'm very sure that twilight pincess is a prequal to ocarina of time.

  • @bestzeldagamer Sadly you are mistaken, As it goes, Skyward Sword > Minish Cap > Four Swords > Ocarina of Time, then when following this certain timeline, > Majora's Mask > Twilight Princess

  • OR maybe he was supposed to be a hero before Link in TP that died during his quest. (Just a guess...)

  • correction, in majora's mask link does NOT go to look out for navi. he searches for skull kid. his friend. and it even explains that this is true in majora's mask. especially the ending. the "personal journey" they game states link is going on in the very beginning of the game, is the journey of reuniting with skull kid. fact.

  • Everybody said that he is a Stalfos but what if he only died?! If you die, you start moulding and become a "Stalfos" naturaly... so he could just be dead and this strange place were you meet him, where you can see the whole world and which is covered in fogg just could be heaven or the entrance to it. By the way the Manga says every Person who gehts lost in lost woods become Horror Kids not Stalfos. Srry for bad english:(

  • They should make a game based on the Hero's Shade.

  • @NeothehedgehogX they did. it's called OoT.

  • @TheLink8003 That is the best repsonse to any statement ever.

  • @TheLink8003 No, im talking about they should make a game based on Stalfos Link.

  • @Jerry3355564 No, he explained the sheild and the sword, but not why he's not still wearing the Hero's Clothes

  • @42Marvin1 Decay

  • @42Marvin1 umm, hes not the hero of time anymore... so no clothes, that and they probably rotted off

  • .... None of that makes sense.

  • @shamadaking58 it said he was the oot link in hyrule historia. a book about the zelda timeline.

  • @TheLink8003 That part I understand and already knew.

  • This actually makes a lot of sense and you are very good at theorizing Zelda ideas

  • So...where did the armor come from?

  • @42Marvin1 Rewatch he already explained

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  • ok i am going to fully explain the hero's shade. after majora's mask link went back to the woods to search for navi once again which is what he did right after he warned zelda of ganon after oot ending, and so he was attacked by skull kid which was soon defeated and then went back to look for navi but died in the lost woods and became a stalthos which is what would happen if you die in the lost woods the hero shade has a rusty mirror shield and the final sword upgrade the shade is link from oot.

  • @TKisforreal Don't forget banging out saria to keep his bloodline.

  • I got told that when MM Link died, he felt regret coz he wanted to be able to pass on his skills. So when TP Link came about, he knew what to do, and thus went on to teach him the 8 (or was it 7?) skills. =)

  • @Gitimi it was 7(ending blow, shield bash,back slice, helm splitter,mortal draw, jump strike, and great spin attack)

  • @TheJMyth100 Cheers. I haven't played TP in a LONG while, so I forgot how many skills there were =)

  • @Gitimi

    7 skills.

  • Why is he wielding his sword the wrong way then?

  • he had the ocarina of time too and most likely all of his songs

  • 1 more thing he was gone for 72 hrs

  • oh he didnt die in termina the first time he went back to termina the skull kid eds him back to hyrule cause i mean why would nintendo fucking KILL BRUTALLY KILL THE HERO OF TIME OUR FRIEND AND HERO LINK

  • @E73RN4LLYABLAZED

    Me to Nintendo: :(

    I prefer that he died normally, having actually lived a life then become an awesome charactor such as Shade. Not like in the third timeline where Ganondorf killed him. Which do you think is better now? (Still...WHY YOU KILL OOT LINK?!?!?! He my best friend <3)

  • 'out'

  • You just confused the shit put of me

  • he is from oot there are so many things about hi tat just give it away

  • @E73RN4LLYABLAZED

    thank you for saying that simply.

  • Everybody knows! This guy HAS to be the Hero of Time! (I'd be so happy if he was!) Also did you know that it's rumored OoT Link is the father of the TP Link and that Malon is his mom because he has Epona and grows up working on a ranch.

  • @cyberdude4 Which proves it all to be BS....because, dead or alive. A real Link will never talk...

  • Well you are right in everything except that he was punished by the godess when he turned into a stalfos in TW Hero Shade said that, but because he was the Hero of Time and he have the part of the triforce of courage so that save him from being and stalfos. He said: My mission is to train the next hero that will save Hyrule. (Almost like that so that was his job in TW) the question is what happpen in WW only the Deku Tree son was part of Oot and WW

  • Lol, my name is Jacob :)

  • hero shade must have master sword an link in tp have the master sword??im confused

  • @xuspeed1 hero shade was the the kid link ... and at the end of ocarina of time ( kid link time ) the master sword its put back in the temple ... after that comes majora mask but in that game link doesnt use the master sword he uses another sword ( i dont remember the name ) so master sword its still in the temple waiting to tp link .... sorry for my bad english

  • @xuspeed1

    No no see, he DOESN'T have the Master Sword anymore. It was "Put back to sleep" after the end of OoT. I'm thinking that the place where TP Link get's the Master Sword is the destroyed-over-time version of the building where OoT Link obtained the Master Sword.

  • @ShiraTheZeldaFan in Oot the temple of time is based in the city of hyrule where as in TP its based in the lost woods so how could it have moved

  • @sonicwins

    It's not the lost woods it's the Sacred Grove I believe. So therefore because it's many years later that could be the old temple of time. See where I'm getting at?

  • if hero shade is link from majoras mask and ocarina of time wouldent he have his

    sword on his back

  • @mkbasham84

    That's not the master sword

  • how about the theory of mina and scant? that they were lovers, scant sided with ganondorf, midna sided with link and because of his jealousy almost kiils her...but efore that scant turned midna into an imp?

  • @MusicPortugal1

    It be Zant not Scant (That would sound wrong)

  • also i knew it was oot this whole time

    even if people disagreed i was thinking in the minds of Eiji the creator

    i was thinking in the mind of the creator and when i first saw heros shade i just knew the Eiji was trying to say look this is OOT link

    tp came after oot and the bloodline quote and stuff made it obvious

    so i think from now on whenever we get these kinds of theories we should think in the mind of Eiji

    like what does Eiji want us to believe he is by our "guit" feeling or "heart"

  • isnt it interesting how all the answers to our questions lie within the game itself?

    i mean in majoras mask the answer to the ancient tribe was all in the game

    the tribe being the stoner tower temple tribe

    and the place of shadow being twinmolds lair

    as for the heros shade ss came after tp so if you were thinking in the minds of the creator eiji, eiji was trying to point out that the heros shade was in fact a LINK but ss came AFTER TP so it couldnt have been ss link it HAD to be oot link

  • @xXgamerNanimeloverXx

    Don't you know anything? The creators themselves stated that SS comes FIRST in the timeline!

  • @ShiraTheZeldaFan oh no no no! you miss understood what i said xD

    i meant that skyward sword was RELEASED after tp not TOOK PLACE after tp

    big miss understand there! xD

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  • @ItsaMeMissMario whoops. got confirmed by nintendo.

  • @TheSuperZeldaMan PS. I think it's a great vid and great way to think of it. I just think of it a different way because of the way Nintendo explained the timeline. I think they were worried they would take away the fun Zelda fans had in discussion how the games fit together, but I think they've (obviously!) given us more to discuss :)

  • @ItsaMeMissMario Don't be testy :) . I honestly, with the Hyrule Historia book, don't see how that is confirmed by Nintendo. All they say is that he jumps timelines.

  • @ItsaMeMissMario @TheSuperZeldaMan to sum it up nicely, it's link remember his past self much like zelda was remembering her past self in Skyward Sword. They're extremely similar. No one heard the cries of hylia but zelda in SS, and she later states that it was a way of her former memories returning. NO ONE IN TP REFERENCES THE GOLDEN WOLF BUT LINK, NOT EVEN MIDNA. Link awakens into his old green tunic after he returns the tears, and the gold wolf appears that only he can react too, deja vu?

  • @windkai I think that does make this make more sense to me (though I still think it's just a past hero from the war) , that it is "deja vu", not that TP Link is a son or grandson or great-grandson or something. I've been reading the Hyrule Historia book (or at least a translation), and from what I've been reading, it's the same Link in all the adventures, technically, it's just that he behaves differently due to having different experiences from being sent back in time in OoT, etc..

  • @windkai (2 Part comment, sorry lol) And though the book says he is the spirit of the Hero of Time, I don't believe it's meant to mean/has to mean "spirit" as in, the ghost of someone who died; it's more like the spirit, as in the spirit of giving or the spirit of a hero--not the actual ghost of a dead Link from an earlier game. Zelda sent Link back at the end of OoT, so he changed and lost this spirit. The Hero's Shade is that spirit he lost.

  • Uuuh a shade is a ghost so if hes called the heros shade hes the ghost of the hero. now listen this ghost is adult sized the link from majoras mask was a kid when it left off so it can't be the link from majoras mask

  • i'm not sure that Link senor waited a century for Link junior, if we look at Epona, it was like 30 years max. and the mom's Malon

  • @Elkayra8 sorry if you didn't notice this but Link isn't a horse.

  • @TheSuperZeldaMan just 2 things

    1) He's a triforce holder, couldn't that just be why he didn't turn evil? Mabey he just got the armor for clothing?

    2) But the TP link became a hero, so why didn't his wolf form turn gold?

  • @Elkayra8 OoT Link getting with Malon has been its own common theory, seeing as the TP Link is a rancher. The fact that the name "Epona" for the horse being passed down as well also helps.

  • if termina is a parallel world of Hyrule, then how Link goes back to Hyrule, if he falls into Termina by accident?

  • "The first time Link sets foot in the Twilight, the crest of the Triforce of Courage on the back of his hand shines and he takes on a beastly form. When he returns to human form, he is garbed in the clothes said to be worn by the hero. The ghost of his ancestor, the Hero of Time, teaches him secrets."

  • @MitoMito0

    "Ever since returning to the child era, the Hero of Time had felt regret that he could not be remembered as a hero. Therefore, he addresses Link as his son and passes down the proof of courage and his secrets."

    thats from hyrule historia btw

  • @MitoMito0 can ypu tell me where did you found that information?

    (a link would be really helpfull)

  • @betosinsentido the source is on my second comment :p

  • nintendo needs to make a game that fills in the gap between majora's mask and twilight princess.

  • So his sword and shield would be the ones from Majora's Mask?

    Wait, didn't someone in the Lost Woods that if you die in the Lost Woods you turn into a stalfos? So that's how Link got turned into a stalfos...

  • Wouldn't he be waiting for his descendant, not his ancestor?

  • He doesn't look like a stalfos. He resembles the ghosts in TP, so he's possibly not even a stalfos to begin with. also when you meet him for the last time He says (confermed! I've played it and you can find it on Youtube) "Go and do not falter, my child!" Stalfos are just bones incapable of having children. This brings me to my next point, The hero's shade seems to have what's left of skin and is fading in and out he's a ghost not a stalfos!

    And yes this seems more like a fanfiction.

  • @higurashikai09 He is a stalfos and he is Link. Nintendo have released a book caled Historia of Hyrule, it's in there. But it's on japanese... tehre are some translations tho, look it up :)

  • I think I found a loop hole in the story if he beat majoras mask how dos he go back by o inform igos that the war is over if he already left and he had to do that just my thought tho

  • this info is false, there are multiple hero's of time. to prove this look at the legend of zelda of zelda skyward sword this takes place before legend of zelda Oot. i think the goddesses pick a new hero of timevwhen one is needed.the only reason shade turns into a wolf is because he can't be in stalfos form in the currernt world that is why he warps link into another realm.

  • @soul22797

    Some Links are new heroes, while others are the same from another story. These ideas are both right.

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  • parts of your theory dont make since because zant turned midna into an imp, link turns into a wolf because hes the chosen one and everytime he goes into twilight realm that happens, and the golden wolf link trains with was the last chosen hero, its all explained in the twilight princess game

  • MIND = BLOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I just thought it was Link in a past life...

  • I've believed that the Hero of Time Link was the Hero's Shade right from the start, but I honestly don't think that he got "lost" in the woods and died that easily... Keep in mind that Link is an awesome dungeon master/puzzle solver, so how would he get "lost in the woods" so easily? He is a whole lot smarter than you think of him, and he probably would have found a way through the forest... There is always a possibility that HoT Link's journey could continue in another game. Oh and nice vid :)

  • @Kenziex123 And not to piss any one off any one would be an idiot if they couldn't find their way out of the lost woods.

  • Eww the whole zelda theory is so interesting that i want to know all of it.

    But there is to many things that are inexplicable, like what has Wind Waker to do with the series?

  • wait how did link learn how to speak instead of yelling random sounds when he fights when he was a stalfo

  • I had a feeling it was the old hero in the hero's shade!

  • uhmm at the end you mean to say descendant and not ancestor rite?

  • you forgot one item

    how did he get lost if he had 2 fairies at the end of MM????

    .........

  • @kidbosmun LOOLLLLLL

  • I loved the TP .Hena,Ilea and Midna (in her later form) are all hot babes.

  • Hmm... I'd agree with this, except for one thing. Hylians turn into stalfos not because they're lost, but because the woods have a special magic. Link, however, has protection from the magic, which is also why he can remain un-transformed within the Kokiri Forest, even as an adult. Though I do not know how he is protected, I do know that if he wasn't protected, he wouldn't have even lasted a year inside the Kokiri Forest. Yet, somehow, he's been in the forest for many years, unchanged.

  • @AnimaxRules I knew that since half year ago.

    But i wasnt pretty sure.

  • link is link's father, i guess

  • @TheDQninja  linkception?

  • All you trolololololol's should shut up: best theory i've heard yet.

  • 2 part message bear with me. Even his skull like face has an otherworld ghostly gray hue to it. And the skull just was to show he was dead and he has been dead for a very long time. It probably was also to disguise OOT Link to the player so it isn't obvious who he is the very first time you meet him. So with that being said, the Hero''s shade is not a stalfos. He is OOT Link's long deceased spirit.

  • Argh... the Hero's shade is not Link in stalfos form. Link never became a stalfos. We have no evidence to support such a claim other then baseless speculation. I won't deny that the Hero's Shade is OOT Link. This has been confirmed by Hyrule Historia. But nowhere in Hyrule Historia or even in TP did it imply that the hero's shade was a stalfos. It is Link's dead spirit or ghost if you will. You can even look at his arms and legs to see they are NOT bone, they are ghostly appendages.

  • @AnimaxRules wait have they actually said this is definitely true? :D

  • hero of shade has a rusty mirror sheild and rusty razor sword

  • that's a great theory

  • also maybe the skull kid helped him get through the woods but it took 7 years

  • well i dont mean to bust your bubble but dont you think link found the farm place his home cause he went through the lost woods and lived cause the triforce or something helped him through the forest and in twilight princess navi is his cursor also ganon 0ot had no beard and in tp he does which says hes older also the wolf/stalfos spirit could be the god who created the fierce deity mask or original links! father cause i think links father was in the war and he was a hero

  • WE NEED A GAME ON WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HERO OF TIME LINK AND WHAT TURNED HIM INTO THE HERO'S SHADE

  • @Spamfritter94 this one dude made a theory on how the adventure in majoras mask WAS the process of him turning into a stalfos

  • awesome theory dude i believe it too!

  • @AnimaxRules WTF! Hoy many Links exist in the world? XD

  • @AnimaxRules

    So, the Shade was the Hero of time after all.

    After all those years wandering, I can't help but wonder... Did he ever find the one he was searching for?

  • @AnimaxRules what do you mean with Hero of Time... he was the OoT link?

  • Twilight Princess is in the Child Era. The orignal Hero of Tima felt that he didn't do anything important and wanted to help so he came and taught Twilight Princess link sword fighting moves. All this was confirmed by Nintendo.

  • Hopefully someday Nintendo will make a zelda game that CONTINUES the Hero Of Times life, cause the HoT is pracitcally the most famous legend :S and well hes almost referenced in every zelda ( i think :S) Especially since hes wearing completly different armor as the heros shade -.-

  • RESPECT!!!!!!!

  • this is perfect it fills in the blanks of my theory :D

    

  • Another very important thing is, why do we never see Link's parents? Because he doesn't have any? (skyward sword spoiler ahead) My guess is that it's the same unbreakable spirit from skyward sword that just reincarnate into the hero of time everytime the world's balance is threatened by the curse of demise at the end of skyward sword who fuses into the new bad guy like Ganondorf.

  • @bouchandre It's because his parents aren't important to the story, whatsoever. The only time Link has family is when they play some role in his adventure, whether it's his sister and grandmother in WW, or his uncle in LttP. His mother is mentioned in OoT, though, and doesn't he have a father in MC?

  • But EVERYONE HERE IS MISSING SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT HERE. In tp, right after you learned the last sword move from this guy, he says to link something like: "be careful, my son!"

    BAM, all your theories have crumbled to the ground! Nah, just joking.

  • and im pretty sure nintendo wouldnt just let the hero of time die and be forgotten so they put him in twilight princess for us to figure out it was him.

  • i think the heros shade is skyward sword link but ive noticed that just because the hero of time is named that doesnt mean it cant be him.Why i think this is because in majoras mask his sheild is called the heros shield

  • @linkpg13 No it's not. He was confirmed to be the Hero of Time in Hyrule Historia.

  • Always knew it was. Now it's fact. Congrats, man. You were right.

  • i knew it lol

  • maybe hero of time looks like a stalfos because thats what his corpse currently looks like and thats how he was passed on after death

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  • confirmed yo.

  • nice i can believe it

  • but if the heros shade is link(wphich i knew already) why does he talk? link never learned how to talk

  • @WEREWOLFTHUG How do you know he never talked? =.=

  • Contrary to what the trolls may believe, this theory has been confirmed by Nintendo.

  • @TheSuperZeldaMan not that im not beleaving you its just id like some proof

  • @TheSuperZeldaMan so they told you "you hit it on the nail" cause thats pretty sick

  • @TheSuperZeldaMan Even though Skyward Sword disproves most of it.

  • @MarxSoul07 yes, i'm sure that since the confirmation was in a book that was included with Skyward Sword (therefore RELEASED SIMULTANEOUSLY BY THE SAME DEVELOPER), it obviously disproves it all. 100%.

  • @TheSuperZeldaMan Jeez, so I don't read the books they include with the games. Who does?

  • @TheSuperZeldaMan Do they confirm that he's actually a stalfos? Like, I knew the moment I saw the hero's shade that it was the Hero of Time, but a "shade" is not a stalfos. A shade is basically just a ghost. It's like the spirit of the Hero of Time unless Nintendo actually derped hard and said he became a stalfos. Like, Nintendo confirming the things they have, it's obvious they didn't really think out some parts of it and seemed to want to annoy people with their own theories.

  • @AkhmedSync Or to annoy people who had their own theories, rather, to clarify.

  • the "hero's shade" is links father if you paid look at what he said after finding all the wolf stones and learning all the moves after you learn the last one he hints to the fact hes links father.and did you even beat legend of zelda twlight princess?not to be mean or anything.

  • Hyrule historia has confirmed the Hero's Shade is the Hero of Time.

  • termina is an parralel world from hyrule, even the game makers will tell you that, and i agree with togurukun that no one of the Link's are related. they are just random heroes of each one of the legend of zelda worlds

  • bull....shit

  • ( no offence) but i think the part where he goes to the canyon isnt possible. I mean like you said he got lost in the woods so how could he go to the canyon. I have a theory but maybe ill make a vid to explain it

  • It isn't necessary the Kokiri Village where the fairies live. Tael and Tatl live in Termina.

    Oh, and there is no real prove that Link from TP is his decendant, he is more likely the incarnation that comes for every game. Not the same thing.

    It's still a very cool theory, though!

  • @ToguroKun actually every zelda game give little hints at chick link can bone haha

  • @pumpkin1escobar lolol that's true

  • It isn't necessary the Kokiri Village where the fairies live. Tael and Tatl live in Termina.

    It's still a very cool theory, though!

  • Its been confirmed that it IS the Link from OoT/MM.

  • Isn't this already officially confirmed it is Link from OOT/MM ??

  • Its quite simple what happened: After MM, Link went off to the Lost Woods back in Hyrule to find Navi, because thats where she was from. He got lost, since, its been so long and he's not Kokiri. He was lost for quite a while. Eventually, Link died. Instead of being turned into a Stalfo, he went into a sort of Spirit Realm, training himself. Since he wasnt turned into a Stalfo, he grew like one, with a sword and armor. He eventually waited for his reincarnation to come. *His soul was split into 2

  • agian zant isint midnas brother he was the king and then zant got angry and thoughthe got rid of midna but he was wrong.

  • no no no no no its links father who tried to kill ganon but failed and was turned into a stalfos then a few years later link found a wolf but when the stalfos (links father) saw link he rembered who he was.

  • Holy shit..that makes so much sense....how the hell did you come up with that theory? Thats genious

  • @MasterJJ2754 Foreal 

  • remember, only Zelda was hearing the voice. When she ask everyone else, including link, they all couldn't hear it but her. She later reveals it to be (spoiler alert) her former self, trying to restore her memories and abilities. The same could be said hear knowing how reincarnation works in a way, just like with Ang in the avatar, this could all be a way for Link to restore his former abilities from a past life. Midna doesn't even acknowledge the wolf Shade nor the ordeals link went through

  • (Spoiler) Furthermore, this connection between the two mirrors what Zelda went through in Skyward Sword, with her hearing the voice of her former past as Hylia to restore her former memories and abilities as the Goddess Hylia. This news of OOT link communicating with his latest incarnation is pretty awesome!

  • I guess it's link instructing his latest self..... hahah seems logical. Gosh, Link's lineage really reminds me of Nickelodeons the avatar relating on budhist reincarnation, being linked into a former life's spirit. Kinda makes TP link even more epic for doing that.

    However folks, LINK IS NOT A STALFOS! We faced a true stalfos in previous games and TP, you kinda need bones to be one. The historia confirms Shade as a spirit, just like his ghostly appearance reveals him as. -_____-

  • On december 23 2011 nintendo reales hyrule historia where it confirmes in fact that the hero's shade is ocarina of time link

  • poorly worded

  • I just read the confirmed report on this and the first thing I thought of was this video. Good Job:)

  • @miranda7itzel You can find it on Zelda Universe it's titled "Hyrule Historia reveals OoT Link’s cameo in Twilight Princess" I'll send you the link if you want.

  • @hannavankegmailcom :D yes I found it! thanks a lot!!!

  • Dude you are the man super Zelda man you theory is truth by Nintendo .

  • @Crisrod2981 when?? where can I see that :( do you have the link?

  • @miranda7itzel send me a message i can give you the link

  • if twilight princess was in the child link time line how could the old link have kids...oh god.

  • Theory confirmed

  • you were right, my friend