it is. The chromatic phrases in the refrain, "Ah, réponds, réponds à ma tendresse..." were indeed flat. Hard phrase to sing, sustained and chromatic. She's not alone.
To my french ear this rendition sounds just heavy and vulgar. The text is diluted in a forced legato which has nothing to do with french style. Sorry but this is not Marylin's repertoire.
Bravo ! Enfin une oreille de qualité sur cette vidéo qui est exactement l'inverse de ce que l'on peut attendre dans Dalila. C'est bien chanté, certes, mais voilà une Dalila qui ne charme personne : c'est problématique pour un opéra qui ne tourne qu'autour de cela, justement.
Yes the Bb was sub par. I saw him in this production ( Maybe not this actual performance) It was announced that Mr. Vickers had a cold. Now I can understand why he did sound..well..kind of...how might you say..Non-Vickerslike (?)
Just to remind you, Samson is a biblical figure and not a movie star.
Samson is very aware in the Biblical story as well as the opera that his admission of love to Dalila means something like his "spiritual death" by treason to his people and God too! As if that wasn't enough, he does sign his death warrant by admitting this two words to her!
If any character in opera would ever be excused to belt out "Je t'aime", that would be Samson!
That said, this is the farewell performance of a legend.
In a perfect world the movie star is a handsome young guy who says "I love you" in a smooth voice that could melt an iron bar. lol...
However, in the Bible a character can be a fearsome prophet (in this case -other than strength- we have no description of gorgeous looks left down to us) and I would expect a desperate, religious person about to commit a fatal sin to be aloud to scream in despair this three magic words.
I thought that Jessye sang slightly under the note which was a disappointment - I love Marilyn - but this aria has so many shades of past mezzos giving their most voluptuous notes it must be a great temptation to try and outdo them all - my personal favourite is Marion Anderson - but then I am old and have the 78's.
Sometimes to make comparisons is pointless. It is like comparing a Strativarious with an Amati violin. They are both beautiful resounding instruments, both with their individual color. It is just a matter of taste. This is one of the loveliest mezzo arias in the history of opera. It is always worth a tear - the orchestration and the supporting male voice, make this a true experience in listening pleasure.
I kept reading comments on Jessye Norman's version how people preferred Horne's version so I decided to check it out. I'm no critic, just a music lover. Horne has a nice voice but there is no comparison of the two voices. Jessye has a very powerful voice. Horne has a very smooth voice in my opinion. I like Norman's version!!
No no, Marilyn's was the biggest instrument of all. Now, to like one version over the other is just a question of taste. I like them both, Horne's and Norman's ;)
Comparisons are inevitable when it comes to arias that are frequently sung. This aria is excellently sung by many mezzos or dramatic sopranos. I find Horne´s rendition one of the best ever !!
This was Vicker's last run at the Met, and the last staged opera he sang (did it in Denver later in the season)He still managed to hit the B flat at the end(never an easy task for him-his top was always a worry). Marilyn Horne-simply the voice of the century- none sang in the chest register like her-a great piece for the memory banks.
Singers are wonderful! The conductor actually sabotages the aria by killing the magnificent flow of the music. he doesn't hold a candle to Georges Prêtre.
Magnificent! Marylin excells in this piece as in many, many others! She has a quality to her voice which differs from many other interpreters who sound like their singing from their underbellies...
Marilyn Horne singing in french sounds like she has a mouthful of oatmeal. A gorgeous voice but her french!!!!!!! horrible!!!!! Thank you Jean Fournet for the wonderful french style in the peice
her pronunciation diverges completely from the accepted vowel sounds for this aria (of course, realistically when singing opera one cannot truly reproduce the sound of the spoken language, but in some places she's nowhere near it :) )
@MssPrss2005 I am not trying to be ugly or knock what you are saying but Vickers had a HUGE I mean HUGE voice. That is why he was a true heldon tenor were their tesetura is lower than most dramatic tenors.
I had not heard her as Dalila, what a beautiful rich voice, very sensual
VillMichael 4 months ago
Awesome!
puppetoz 1 year ago
voce fuori repertorio .
bodiloto 1 year ago
Fucking awesome
Forplaylist 1 year ago
I love this woman. She sings so amazing. And I love that she never developed the wabble that so many develope at an older age. Simply outstanding.
spizzell1 1 year ago
This feels a bit like Marilyn is struggling with the slowish tempo.
Telltaleheart79 1 year ago
Vickers just is (was) the greatest. Outshines them all!
cleanears 2 years ago 2
superbe texte... Y'en a un qui doit être content.
crion4 2 years ago
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jaaaaaayynnee 2 years ago
It's so so so goood
but.... don't you think its a little bit out of tune in some parts?
Jaiam 2 years ago
it is. The chromatic phrases in the refrain, "Ah, réponds, réponds à ma tendresse..." were indeed flat. Hard phrase to sing, sustained and chromatic. She's not alone.
UrsulanChild 2 years ago
To my french ear this rendition sounds just heavy and vulgar. The text is diluted in a forced legato which has nothing to do with french style. Sorry but this is not Marylin's repertoire.
romondesbert 2 years ago
TBH, i agree. I was feeling a bit guilty for awhile there, she is fantastic, but this is just not her best repertoire.
sharonmary 2 years ago
Bravo ! Enfin une oreille de qualité sur cette vidéo qui est exactement l'inverse de ce que l'on peut attendre dans Dalila. C'est bien chanté, certes, mais voilà une Dalila qui ne charme personne : c'est problématique pour un opéra qui ne tourne qu'autour de cela, justement.
KILLERADVICE 1 year ago
Olga Borodina is still the sexiest Dalila on the stage, but I absolutely sink in the depths of Marilyn Horne's voice. She is assoluto in this role.
MSMillerNYC 2 years ago
Try Elena cernei on this aria and then you tell . . . . .
bendfeldtf 2 years ago
Fabulous! Thank you for the recommendation. I can't wait to listen to her Carmen now.
MSMillerNYC 2 years ago
geez, he's mad loud!
uniqueattack 2 years ago
My favourite version of this aria is by Maria Callas
eamonmoriarty 2 years ago
Even well beyond her prime, this performance by MH puts Elina G in the shade ...
AinslieRiddell 2 years ago 3
le epazotie
ilopezgue 3 years ago
I've certainly heard much worse tenor B flats --
stevevandien 3 years ago
terrible B-flat."Je j'aime" It means I love you. Do you hear it? But I love this music. Beautiful.
franktenor 3 years ago
Dear franktenor
Yes the Bb was sub par. I saw him in this production ( Maybe not this actual performance) It was announced that Mr. Vickers had a cold. Now I can understand why he did sound..well..kind of...how might you say..Non-Vickerslike (?)
sgnmath1234 3 years ago
Just to remind you, Samson is a biblical figure and not a movie star.
Samson is very aware in the Biblical story as well as the opera that his admission of love to Dalila means something like his "spiritual death" by treason to his people and God too! As if that wasn't enough, he does sign his death warrant by admitting this two words to her!
If any character in opera would ever be excused to belt out "Je t'aime", that would be Samson!
That said, this is the farewell performance of a legend.
CONTESTAR 3 years ago
What is the main difference between biblical figure and a movie star?
doddsalfa 3 years ago
In a perfect world the movie star is a handsome young guy who says "I love you" in a smooth voice that could melt an iron bar. lol...
However, in the Bible a character can be a fearsome prophet (in this case -other than strength- we have no description of gorgeous looks left down to us) and I would expect a desperate, religious person about to commit a fatal sin to be aloud to scream in despair this three magic words.
CONTESTAR 3 years ago
"Je j'aime" unless it's a typo doesn't really mean anything; literally it is "I love me".
What Vickers says is "Je t'aime" which means "I love you".
toberhouse 3 years ago
Or even worse "I love I".
toberhouse 3 years ago
C'è qualcuno un pò ingolato? Forse...Vickers? Franco Corelli, perché non hai cantato Sansone?
sincrotto 3 years ago
I thought that Jessye sang slightly under the note which was a disappointment - I love Marilyn - but this aria has so many shades of past mezzos giving their most voluptuous notes it must be a great temptation to try and outdo them all - my personal favourite is Marion Anderson - but then I am old and have the 78's.
milizakorjus 3 years ago 2
Sometimes to make comparisons is pointless. It is like comparing a Strativarious with an Amati violin. They are both beautiful resounding instruments, both with their individual color. It is just a matter of taste. This is one of the loveliest mezzo arias in the history of opera. It is always worth a tear - the orchestration and the supporting male voice, make this a true experience in listening pleasure.
mrteryx 3 years ago 5
Sorry, but - Stradivaruis (if you meant Antonio Stradivari) ;)
SubtlyRough 3 years ago
Actually - Stradivarius!
bevsoprano 3 years ago
I meant it (that was just a misprint! :)Thank you for having noticed it.
SubtlyRough 3 years ago
I kept reading comments on Jessye Norman's version how people preferred Horne's version so I decided to check it out. I'm no critic, just a music lover. Horne has a nice voice but there is no comparison of the two voices. Jessye has a very powerful voice. Horne has a very smooth voice in my opinion. I like Norman's version!!
kevbon27 3 years ago
I think that Caballe's performing is the best! Have you listened to it?
rao633 3 years ago
No no, Marilyn's was the biggest instrument of all. Now, to like one version over the other is just a question of taste. I like them both, Horne's and Norman's ;)
hwhap13 3 years ago
Comparisons are inevitable when it comes to arias that are frequently sung. This aria is excellently sung by many mezzos or dramatic sopranos. I find Horne´s rendition one of the best ever !!
swe50 4 years ago 2
a magnificent voice
e0225w 4 years ago
This was Vicker's last run at the Met, and the last staged opera he sang (did it in Denver later in the season)He still managed to hit the B flat at the end(never an easy task for him-his top was always a worry). Marilyn Horne-simply the voice of the century- none sang in the chest register like her-a great piece for the memory banks.
vickersman 4 years ago
Singers are wonderful! The conductor actually sabotages the aria by killing the magnificent flow of the music. he doesn't hold a candle to Georges Prêtre.
vanzofaust 4 years ago 2
Magnificent! Marylin excells in this piece as in many, many others! She has a quality to her voice which differs from many other interpreters who sound like their singing from their underbellies...
swe50 4 years ago
Marilyn Horne singing in french sounds like she has a mouthful of oatmeal. A gorgeous voice but her french!!!!!!! horrible!!!!! Thank you Jean Fournet for the wonderful french style in the peice
amandemil 4 years ago
ha ha lovely voice but ur right about the bad french ;)
ryeathedog 4 years ago
Her French is not bad at all.
bokensdorf 4 years ago 3
her pronunciation diverges completely from the accepted vowel sounds for this aria (of course, realistically when singing opera one cannot truly reproduce the sound of the spoken language, but in some places she's nowhere near it :) )
ryeathedog 4 years ago
wow, if jon vickers punched that last high note any harder, i think his head would've exploded.
MssPrss2005 4 years ago 6
@MssPrss2005 I am not trying to be ugly or knock what you are saying but Vickers had a HUGE I mean HUGE voice. That is why he was a true heldon tenor were their tesetura is lower than most dramatic tenors.
Operaman41 1 year ago
@MssPrss2005 It's just a SIb ..
TheCaseyonline 4 months ago
She's awesome- for a great live performance (where she does this) see the video/dvd of her and Joan Sutherland concert in Sydney.
Ruxton 4 years ago
God, I love this woman's voice.
mfuz99 4 years ago 2