Police State by Tony Blair - BBC Video

[Psy0psAgent]

No where in this did I hear the word education. Also the propaganda at 1:11 about how and listen to the words specifically, 'experts recon that if you wait till adulthood a disfunctional person will cost THE TAXPAYER (on average) 25,000 pounds a year.' The wording seems to imply that EACH taxpayer will pay 25,000 a year for EACH child which is ridiculous math and misleading

[offwiththefairies77]

This is child stealing from the state.

[dummyspitter]

i agree with tony blair on this issue problem children need nipping in the bud before they reach adulthood as later on in life the probem could be worse parents need educating to see whats happening under their noses and do something about it before its too late

[UKSecretCourts]

@dummyspitter

How can adoption and taking them into care be solving anything? It makes the children ANGRY and anti state. In fact the care system guarantees the children will end up on drugs or having children in the teenage years. It's a total failure.

A catastrophic failure.

[aveffects]

Nazi UK

[eXPerienceyeah]

Fuck you Tony, who the fuck are you to tell us this shit?

[MrBluedemon1975]

Eugenics. Also see 'Bowlby' 'affectionless psychopaths'...........fabrica­ted his research for political ends.........fucks sake.........

[MrBluedemon1975]

Eugenics. Also see 'Bowlby' 'affectionless psychopaths'...........fabrica­ted his research for political means.........fucks sake.........

[MrBluedemon1975]

Eugenics.

[CESSqc]

Mr Blair... you are obsolete.

[fartrage]

what acturley has the government done that hasnt caused a problem. i acturley cant think of 1

[UKSecretCourts]

On 1 July 2010, Freedom Advocacy & Law filed CLASS ACTION against the Family Division Courts of the United Kingdom and the Local Authorities operating within the Statutory jurisdiction of same.

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[UKSecretCourts]

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Who can file as Class Litigants: Anybody who's Name appears on CA1989 applications

[sims9287]

...so they could raise their child in peace and were followed by the Government who were bent on removing this baby as soon as it was born. All based on a suspision and the off chance that the child would be neglected. They have no right to interfere unless there is proof that the child is being neglected. Not just an assumption.

This country makes me sick & the sooner I can leave the better. I'll certainly never be irresponsible enough to have & try raising a child in this Orwellian hell-hole.

[sims9287]

This is sick, it's worse than the old Soviet days when they used to take the children from their families for specialist and corrective training.

The Government doesn't agree with the parents methods of raising their children (some moral grounds not met) so they muscle in and force the child out of the arms of their otherwise loving and attentive parents.

I've seen a couple of cases of this, where the parents were in a particular situation before the child was born, tried to move abroad...

[DeadOriginal]

@wasssuppp08 , I can remember Cook and Short resigning, they made a big deal of their opposition as they did recently during the Chilcott farce.

[UKSecretCourts]

@wasssuppp08

Have you seen Blair's investments in Iraqi Oil?

he's using "covered" companies to hide his connections, so he's as corrupt as they come, and trying to hide the investments.

That's whats made him £20 million in no time.

[t4705mb6]

@wasssuppp08 Wrong. According to just about EVERYONE in government PERSONAL EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY is ...."hearsay".

Know this: If you are charged with a crime and go to court, a police officer's testimony against you is taken as "evidence". YOUR testimony as defendant is entered into court records as "hearsay". It is NEVER your word against the officer's - what you say you saw and heard is superseded by ANY officer of the...."law". His testimony (evidence) will trump even the truth any day.

[UKSecretCourts]

@t4705mb6

This is very true.

A sky engineer told me yesterday how he got fined by two police for not wearing a seatbelt... that he had on. The police said "oh, we didn't see one". So he got fined, even though he showed them his seatbelt.

Parents need to learn to get machine data to back what they say, and show the police and SS as liars.

It's time to turn machine data and video recordings against the state and those who are corrupt.

[SELFGOVERMENT]

TONY BLAIR has a genetic abnormality. This is the conclusion of Britains Cheirological Society (founded 1889) which has been studying the PMs preaching hands.and noticed that he possesses a simian line on each hand. Only 2.5 per cent of male types possess this distinguishing feature, which indicates a decidedly odd streak.

[SELFGOVERMENT]

@SELFGOVERMENT

Normal folk have two lines on their hands but Blairs merge together. It is a feature shared by drug addicts, mass murderers, scientific researchers and religious fanatics. The society is the national guardian of this knowledge after studying the palms of habitues of Parkhurst Prison. It contends that this indicates that Blair is zealous, obsessive, and has tremendous will-power. Even Baroness Thatcher, President Saddam Hussein and Michael Heseltine lacked this mark.

[UKSecretCourts]

@SELFGOVERMENT

That's an interesting fact, is that the line called the smidian line? The line feared as it indicates murderers...

Well, if the cap fits.

And there's 1 million dead Iraqi's to his name.

[SELFGOVERMENT]

@UKSecretCourts Yeah simian lower life form emotionally he is a classic Profile of the Sociopath. I think he it fascinates me that often what psychopaths say about others or normal folk in general is really a type of shadow self projection. I think he knows he is a toxic psycho, and so called society dont have anywhere to put intelligent white collar weirdos so they put them in to postions of power. personally I would not leave him in charge of a vegetable garden.

[UKSecretCourts]

@SELFGOVERMENT

What else does the line say?

What traits are associated with it?

I'm really interested, as i've only seen such a line, once, and i'm really curious now that you've got some knowledge on it.

[SELFGOVERMENT]

@UKSecretCourts jenniferboyerdotcom/simianline­news1.htm

[SELFGOVERMENT]

@UKSecretCourts The downside is that it is a physical feature commonly shared by murderers and religious fanatics. The simian line, a genetic abnormality of the palm in which the heart line (starting below the little finger) and the head line (starting above the thumb) fuse into one, is present in only 2.5% of the worlds male population. Among world leaders only Britains Tony Blair is known to have the simian line and on both hands.

[SELFGOVERMENT]

@UKSecretCourts Among world leaders only Britains Tony Blair is known to have the simian line and on both hands.

Research shows they are generally found on people who are intense and intractable, an observation which will provoke knowing smiles among critics who have branded Mr. Blair a control freak.

[UKSecretCourts]

@wasssuppp08

Stick to the point.

Blair has authorised Eugenics.

He's one sick puppy.

He's determining a parent to be guilty before any crime has been committed.

He's snatching children at birth.

Swedish Social workers work on fact based practises, and look with disdain at UK social workers, who "make it up" out of thin air - and adopt on this basis.

Secret justice always hides malpractice - only open justice works.

[TheWelshie1]

We should have intervened with you BLAIR and kicked you out before you killed millions of innocent people in these mad wars , you have made millions for your geedy self, enjoy spending your bloody money you evil parasite

[UKSecretCourts]

@TheWelshie1

Nice one - apart from comparing Blair to a parasite is a bit of an insult - to parasites. :)

[TheWelshie1]

@UKSecretCourts

Yea that was a little unkind of me ,ha ha

[pembrokeshiresparkss]

Disgusting vile man who needs to be shot.

[nick987789]

I have to assume that this clip is genuine - it is as surreal as anything from 'The Day Today', and as Orwellian as anything else Labour has dreamed up since 1997.

Did the proposals result in legislation?

[UKSecretCourts]

@nick987789

Oh it's true alright. He also paid millions in bonus to cash strapped councils to adopt more.

So they snatched babies within 10 minutes of birth and made millions, all paid by central govt.

Look for the mum they said was "too stupid too marry" and they cancelled her wedding, 2 days before it was due to take place.

Kerry has fled to Eire, to give birth.

The social workers and Tony blair for authorising and condoning it, should all be sterilised to see how they like "eugenics".

[floydgirl7]

SAY WHAT?

[t4705mb6]

Don't pay ANY attention to ANYTHING Blair says. Know why he joined the attacks with the U.S. on Afghanistan and Iraq? Because Bush brought him to Washington and, that very first night, set him up with young male prostitutes in his hotel room and.....with hidden cameras....filmed the.... 'action'.

Then Bush SHOWED the video to Blair and.....well, Blair had little choice but to join the "coalition" - which he HAD been... ..DEAD SET .AGAINST...the day before!

[hugo3395]

Someone should shoot this Bastard

[not4playn]

Hoo boy the elites puppets are KOOKOO for Coco pufs!!!!!

[joe80dman]

These evil pricks speak with one mind. They're all alike, whether from the States, the UK, or Northwest Europe. Major political parties are always supportive of a police state, and for the government to usurp parent's authority. This is what we saw in Totalitarian regimes years ago, and now they're adopting the same thing here? Lock and load!

[not4playn]

Mr. Blair Is a biological mutant and should be terminated...

[not4playn]

Discusting Mr Blair is missing a few cards out of his deck... No aces for sure.

[not4playn]

Discusting Mr Blair is missing a few cars out of his deck...

[GodGunsGutsGlory777]

I'm tired of these baby snatchers.

One day GOD will smite them and send all of them directly to HELL!

[Deathlordtwo]

This is fucking revolting!!

[KeepsReAppearing]

Maybe if BLAIRS parents had been decent honest folks, then he would not of turned into the UK's biggest TERRORIST WAR CRIMINAL

[CodeTwo2]

It is becoming impossible to go even a single day in this horror experiment of a country without hearing of yet MORE lunacy (I hadn't seen this clip of Blair).

It's everywhere - home, work, family, the road system, education, policing, the health service, the banks. Utility, fuel & food prices rising wildly. Pensions stolen, new rules, new laws.

Total dismantling of EVERYTHING as it was around us, but BUILDING of cameras and surveillance systems ad infinitum.

Time to kick back people.

[UKDirtySecret]

'child stealing by the state'

Brian Gerrish common purpose

they dont want you to know

[DeadOriginal]

I wonder if anybody knew that Tony Blair would grow up to be a Mass Murderer!

YES Tony Blair...Nobody needs any further proof, you are a War Criminal and will eventually be brought to justice for your Genocide/Holocaust.

1 million Iraqi civilians 100 thousand allied troops and counting.

[djnero78]

@DeadOriginal blair is a snake

[karuspery]

Mad man! Stalinist!

[UKSecretCourts]

I hear they want lottery tickets to Blair at the Iraq Enquiry.

Cant' wait for the day he's on trial at the Hague for war crimes.

This is the 5th Iraq enquiry - how many inquiries do we need until we get the truth...

Mind you, this is B.LIAR we're talking about.

The worst British Prime Minister in history.

[karuspery]

I could strangle this man while looking into his eyes,kissing him goodbye. He is pure evil. My GOD! What have these people done to these innocent family's.

I want him to hang.Like Saddam and I hope it gets posted on YT.

[CPSSucks]

@UKSecretCourts - Superb video!!! I noticed lately by the way that your message to me disappear when I open them up, I can only remedy this by quickly highlighting and reading the message or highlighting and copying and pasting. Someone doesn't want you getting the word out!!

[waggles1989]

@UKSecretCourts Absolute tripe. One of the most retarded and ignorant comments I have ever read.

[UKSecretCourts]

@waggles1989

Thank you - so eloquent. Alas I have no idea to which comment you're referring.

[karuspery]

Labour created the problem by encouraging young GIRLS to fall pregnant,give them money and a council house,mother goes on to bring more babies into the world,sired by various fathers,totally reliant on the money from Government.Kids grow up confused bastards and behave accordingly. Simple.

Now Labour embark on a mission of seemingly corrective action but totally sinister. Forced adoption which enforces their power over the stupid British citizens.Why don't they rape the mothers afterwards too?

[BigOleFatGIT]

Nazi!

[karuspery]

Stalinist!

[kderules]

Eugenics++ for a new age, a new world order. This is social engineering, population control & absolute state monitoring of human life as stated below. Of course we have the environmental controls to come on top yet. But gotta stop the weather from changing right! And then anti terrorism laws are we seeing a picture here. CONTROL lol

[UKSecretCourts]

It is Eugenics.

1. Low IQ = can't have children.

2. Low IQ -= can't get married.

It's pure Eugenics, based on GALTON'S dream of utopia - with no one with disablities or low IQ.

[karuspery]

@UKSecretCourts

Stalinism Common Purpose

[CherishTheChildren]

@UKSecretCourts I see them as nothign more then Babling ring a bell?/Babel ..let them for we all know what happen in the past to those whom would not behave < Children do not belong to the state they belong to GOD

Love Light

[darrellmellissa]

@UKSecretCourts Sounds good for our gene pool to me.. Weve got such a genetic load now, that every little bit helps.

[UKSecretCourts]

@darrellmellissa

Speak for yourself sunshine.

Many of us have high IQ's and STILL would never in a million years support Eugenicists

[darrellmellissa]

@UKSecretCourts Im speaking for the health of the human race,, If you want a race of defects,then were heading the right way.

[UKSecretCourts]

@darrellmellissa

Google the field of "cybernetics".

The first rule of Cybernetics destroys any claims of those supporting Eugenics.

'the law of requisite variety'.

Strength through diversity is the first rule of nature, of cybernetics.

If you breed only within those with high IQ's you'll get inbreed mental illness.

You need variety - as the gene pool always returns to it's mean.

[darrellmellissa]

@UKSecretCourtsYour right we need more hair lips and cripples,makes for deverdity.

[UKSecretCourts]

@darrellmellissa

A hair lip, is not a reason to abort a child.

By your reasoning, a freckle would warrant the aborting of the foetus.

a regional dialect would warrant sterilisation.

And if I looked in a mirror, would I find you to be so very perfect?

Should I sterile you, because you have a freckle, a hairlip, or have an IQ less that 140.

After talking to you, perhaps your argument is right. Anyone who could support Eugenics, should be sterilised, to lead by example.

We'll send you first.

[darrellmellissa]

@UKSecretCourts A hair lip or a genetic defect that will be passed on if I was alowed to breed, the answere is YES..

[ELGQZ]

blair is a crazy fuk , all these all farts are crazy fuks. need to put the camera on these old farts hiding behind the scene.

[karuspery]

@ELGQZ

Google Common Purpose by Brian Gerrish

also

Government Infiltration by Brian Gerrish

[ELGQZ]

smile!!... ur on camera kitties!!!

[HalieusOPsuche]

i don't think those other commentators 'get it'

this is social engineering, population control & absolute state monitoring of human life...as Alex Jones says "Prison Planet" Indeed

1984 has Nothing on these Evil policies.

[karuspery]

@HalieusOPsuche

Google Common Purpose by Brian Gerrish

also

Government Infiltration by Brian Gerrish

[stevom31]

omfg tony blair is clinically insane its official

[geisterbahn1]

the only menace to society is Tony blair. he should be tried for war crimes and hung . it gone to far! democracys a joke as we live in a police state within a police state,

[karuspery]

@geisterbahn1

Google Government Infikltration by Common Purpose by Brian Gerrish.

All will become apparent.

[idnumber101]

fuck yea crimalize procreation.....

[karuspery]

@idnumber101

Google Government infiltration by Brian Gerrish and

Common Purpose.

[DJCW]

This is Minority Report!

[UKSecretCourts]

Yeah, "pre crimes".

Thought police. Guilty until proven innocent.

Tony Blair has a lot to answer for - and the destruction of society is only one thing.

He should be in the Hague for war crimes against Iraq and pre emptive warfare.

It's all gone too far - it's like science fiction, only its for real!!

[W3Ar31]

bloody disgusting

[capricious71]

How creepy is this? We're living in mad times. Brave New World.

[UKSecretCourts]

1984.

Thought police

The state is crrapo at most things, and it's the worse possible parent.

Twenty percent of 16 years in a care home either have given birth or are pregnant.

Check out the stats of what happens to kids in care, and you'd sooner put them in a dogs home that a care home.

So yeah, brave new world, 1984 - it's in operation and its EVIL!!

[DarrenBeaumont]

You know what I think the problem is... the language they use.... If they said they understand the difficulties some families face and they set up real education centres and community groups that actually provided oppertunities... you show some love not further ailianate.

[weseastham]

And the BBC advertise this. We need to get rid of this propaganda channel

[UKSecretCourts]

It does take some believing, but the evidence is there in the BBC Archives.

New Labour have been totally "brainwashed" by the Eugenics/Social workers who want to do

"pre emptive warfare".

I cannot accept that where a child hasn't been born yet, social workers can "crystal ball gaze" and snatch babies where no harm has occurred.

This snatching within 10 minutes of birth is

Big BROTHER indeed!

[Soupdragoon]

That is not big brother that is the Brave New World.

Holly shit.

[truexposure]

Monirtored adn controlled from Birth

Its Expereinces that affect growing up..

This is exposure of the EVIL powers that be

[koyima]

he can't be serious. then why don't we check out individuals for being greedy and slimy and wanting to control other people, like you "Mr" Blair.

Who gives you the right to do something like this?

[costasandaudrey]

Although I am in broad agreement with the view that Tony Blair has issues I disagree with a few things:

1) He is NOT a nutter; he is just evil; he is serving an agenda of others whether it be Iraq, children been snatched to be raised by the state, gays etc

2) This sort of tyranny is not unique to New Labour; we have got to think beyond the left right paradim. CAFCASS merely replaced something under the tories. Our message needs to go cross party towards men who want to bring real change!

[UKSecretCourts]

watch?v=1-tbUsdrBlk

CAFCASS and the FOI.

Take 2 minutes and raise an FOI against CAFCASS. Public Scrutiny of CAFCASS.

[femmefi]

Effin hell the guy's a complete NUTTER !!!

[sodparliament]

BLOODY STEPFORD!!! The guy's a nutter,is this any way to run a country?I say,charge the pratt with CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY! and let's get this twit in front of the judges in "THE HAGUE"!

[UKSecretCourts]

He's a war criminal for sure!

Who's committed mass tyranny against British citizens.

[mark191416]

A menace to society a good discription of himself I feel.

[mshope4us]

'Freemason' run councils are powerful and dangerous like vampires they dont like the light - and I have a touch so BRIGHT it will blind them!

[rationalbloke]

WTF!

Why not go the whole way and start sterilizing people deemed to be unfit to be "good" parents???

[themadhatter34]

its called Eugenics and social darwinism if you dont know what that is look it up

[UKSecretCourts]

The point is, who is Blair to force Eugenics on the UK, by the back door.

We didn't vote for Eugenics, and we don't want it.

Using secret courts, is a step to near fascism... the public don't agree with this.

Especially those with high IQ's, hence the Oxford University group of John Hemming & Camilla Cavendish who are standing up against Blair's Tyranny.

[mshope4us]

What a load of rubbish, this is BIG BROTHER gone mad

children are already being stolen by the state many in Tory councils with ALL MP's turning a blind eye

how is removing children from loving grandparents/relatives a good thing

cruel evil mainly 'freemason ' councils empower complete idiots who dont even have child

childless guardian Amanda Barden

[1happiness]

After all of these how exactly are you going to repeal Blairs Child Protection Laws? Protest and strikes?

[simplybornhuman]

I agree, but it should then certainly be pre-birth. Abortion / or some similar legislation which will give unfit woman an option between being monitored for pregnancy, and if they are, then an abortion or the other option, which will be: sterilization. One or the other, the option would be made available after the first child.

[UKSecretCourts]

That's the "may harm" principle. But you may or may not harm your child.

You cannot predict harm.

You cannot state "unfit". They claimed Fran Lyon had MSBP - yet the doctor had never met her.

These horrors occur due to the "may harm" principle.

It's time to return to forensic levels of evidence, not hear say, made up reports, by doctors who've never met the mums.

Does Dyslexia make you unfit? The Uk says yes.

Does an eating disorder make you unfit?  Again it's yes.

This is 1984!!

[simplybornhuman]

Firstly: Parenting and objective reasoning (IQ derivatives) tests. Income could also play a roll.

Eugenics: DNA sequencing (IE 23andme .c0m), etc... Also many perfectly objective tests available. This could also simply mean, that parents could simply divert through IVF first, to prevent decades of suffering and tens of billions in medical care.

Nothing is perfect, but at the advanced time we are living in, would certainly be useful, even near perfect.

[UKSecretCourts]

Love and IQ aren't related.

If they were, those with higher IQ's would love more. You might not be a maths graduate, but, can love your child.

So I don't agree with that premise. Is IQ static? No.

Are there many different types of IQ? Yes.

Needless to say, IQ is a very old, outdated mode of understanding. You may have strong numeracy, but weak practical or spatial skills. Parenting needs more practical skills than numeracy. Should those with high IQ's be excluded?

[simplybornhuman]

99.9% of parent's love their children, all as much as they can.

But all don't know how.

IQ would certainly be a help.

IQ is not old, and it is certainly not outdated. It is certainly objective(especially without factoring the linguistics section), and useful. Some kind of parenting reasoning test with universally objective questions only could also be added

Those with bad histories, such as criminal records, substance abuse, may have less of a chance

These will bring down bad odds immensely

[UKSecretCourts]

IQ is incredibly outdated.

British researchers found the IQ of Asian children within the British education system rose 15 - 20 points.

That takes a slow child, with an IQ of 80, to a normal IQ of 100.

A normal child with an IQ of 100, becomes a Bright child, with an IQ of 120.

If IQ can easily leap 20 points, by a change in education system and learning style, then it's not a safe, intelligent basis on which to remove children, as it can change, dramatically, it's not static in any form.

[simplybornhuman]

IQ correlates positively with income (nearly always in post-40 year old's), brain-size, poverty rates....

IQ is certainly a useful measurement, yes it may not be perfect, but in a 20 point range it is pretty accurate.

Yes IQ can be raised by education, but all-in-all the basic measurement of intelligence doesn't change. It certainly has biological factors too. Ancientest consensus is that it is 50% genetic, 50% environment.

It's not only genetics i'm worried about, it's also reliability.

[simplybornhuman]

Let me highlight: IQ always correlates positively with brain size (.4), therefor it certainly has a link to another indicator of intelligence - this absolutely confirms the validity of IQ tests.

The count of certain cells and the presence of certain genes also nearly always correlate with high IQ.

[simplybornhuman]

What i'm saying is that IQ certainly has a biological factor, just as it also has an environmental factor.

But im not only proposing IQ tests for eugenic reasons only, i am also proposing it, in addition to other criteria, for the allowance of pregnancy.

No i am NOT for forced sterilizations.

I am for a china-like policy, sterilizations are optional(purely for the individual) if one doesn't believe in abortion. However it has to be one or the other. The one-childs will benefit the most

[UKSecretCourts]

No one would agree with a China like policy. Even those who promote Eugenics, want to sterilise the poor or those with low IQ, and those who are rich, or intelligent can have as many children as they want (to increase the stock of brighter children).

But how many poor families have an outstandingly bright child?

Lord Denning - from a socioeconomic group D family.

The first rule of Cybernetics - the most flexible survive. Not the strongest or brightest, the most flexible will win the day.

[simplybornhuman]

I never said that we would have to forcibly sterilize anybody, at all. All i want is an option between, say being monitored(wireless pregnancy test, monitored by government), and if one doesn't have the requirements, then abortion, the other option would be sterilisation. This would be done after the first child, and ONLY the mother chooses one or the other, but a choice between the two is a MUST. The rest will be completely fair positive eugenics only.

[simplybornhuman]

No, DNA sequencing can predict genetic illnesses, or pre-dispositions, perfectly. IVF could be a simple required solution to many cases of those weak.

Fibonacci masks, symmetry and MRI scans can reasonably rate aesthetics.

IQ tests (esp without the verbal sector), combined with Income criteria, and say perhaps the difference between parent and child income, could also be valuable and reasonably objective criteria, or objective to the point where it can't be abused by selfish groups.

[simplybornhuman]

It may not be perfect, nothing is, but it will certainly b very effective, probably over 90% of the time

Not only for eugenics, but also for family planing

The way in which the world is working right now, is that the weak are looked after, they have the most children and this doesn't work with Natural selection, it is directly against it. I am for being kind, giving the weak even better conditions, while still retaining Natural selection

Nature gave us intelligence, we are supposed to use it.

[tjmac7]

Any increase in the human gene pool gives natural selection more to work on. In reality, the more variety in the human genome, the fitter the population.

[simplybornhuman]

Firstly, you are gravely misunderstanding what it means to be 'fit'.

'Fit' could also mean that monkeys or even mice will win.

What is philosophically fit for us, or better for our sentient species, is not the same for the rest of the jungle.

What we want, and what nature want's is not the same. We are the important ones here.

[simplybornhuman]

forget cybernetics. My future children will not be Furbies. What matters, the only thing that matters is what sentient beings want. NOT what nature wants. We want to be attractive, smart, free from disease, and able to have great sex.

I don't see that as possible, when we all oneday turn into sd cards

[tjmac7]

If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? lol

IQ is a remnant of nazi germany.

[simplybornhuman]

IQ tests have always been a successful tool to measure a persons intelligence. with a 20 point variability factored in, it is certainly accurate.

Correlates very significantly to many biological traits too.

As i've said, it may not be perfect, and may even sometimes, although very rarely, tell the completely opposite story, but by far most of the time, it is certainly a fairly accurate measure of ones intelligence.

[simplybornhuman]

The notability of it correlating so strongly to biological factors too, is certain evidence that it is a successful measure, and clearly has something to explain (the traits: larger brain, certain cells present, certain genes, etc.).

[Demetrenos]

Blair is responsible for the 7/7 London subway bombings and he wan't kids to grow up to good citizens like he is so that one day they cam lie about a country having WMD and invade it and steal it's oil which is morally the right thing to do. This lie might cost the life's of hundreds of thousands of civilians but Blair stands on moral high ground.

[GeorgeGreekTrucker]

Watch how the BBC nice and early

try and get the sheeple on their side

by emphasizing the cost to all of us.

[skegy]

I'm amazed at the British first they are told not to discipline their children or face arrest if they do. They are then taught a load of shit in school, which the Brits agree with. Then we get a generation of out of control morons because parental control has been removed. The Brits are now attacking the kids for their own parental failure. And the Brits just keep excepting these draconian laws like they have lost their brains down a drain!! WAKE UP!!

[skegy]

Kids are being abused by the state both sexually and physically and the Brits stand and watch, social worker are stealing kids then advertising them on the internet for adoption and the Brits just stand and do nothing. What in gods name are you people? You aren't human that's for sure just a bunch of cowards. Perhaps you all deserve a Orwellian state no one can thnk any more.

[UKSecretCourts]

We agree. The SS have total control, we are facing 1984 or Brave new world, unless we stop the SS, Secret Courts, and tony blair's Eugenics.

We are gagged, and the courts say it's not secrecy it's "privacy". Well, it's not for the benefit of the children.

We're trying to get the Council of Europe to stop our out of control SS and Social workers.

The SS need to be made accountable, and jailed when they commit perjury.

[skegy]

Thanks for the reply and good to know someone is awake. Kind regards

[asmodeus585]

Damn, many people from my country went to Uk to see a real free market and get a nice job. They thought they are going to see a real capitalism. Or at least a sweet Third Way. But it isn't any third way, it's just an old socialism - in other words communism or fascism - which are pretty much the same. There's no 'new' Labour - Blair was just lying to people - he cleverly used the fruits/success of thatcherism in economy combined with socialistic attitude to anything else. It's really sad.

[dbww]

Well this is just typical socialism isnt it. Its the state saying "We know how to run your life better than you do". Why dont they just actually give teachers some power to discipline kids in school & end this stupid "no one's a failure" culture that got us here in the first place. Send roudy youths to national service style boot camps. Then hopefully they will be able to bring up their kids well.

[UKSecretCourts]

How do you define a "problem parent"? Fran Lyon?

The middle classes who, the state tells us, drink far too much wine.

Those who leave a "chaotic lifestyle" ie didn't wash the dishes before the SS arrived.

time to get Europe to squash New Labours child protection "socialism".

I can't believe he's even saying this to be honest.

It is "big brother". It's baby snatching before any problems have occurred.

[dbww]

Exactly, and even if they were a problem parent its stupid to assume that their kid will turn out an ASBO weilding yob (although it is more likley), just like a "perfect Labour Parent" could raise a mugger. You have to steer the child towards a good course as best you can. But you cant do any steering untill they have moved of course.

[UKSecretCourts]

They use the "may harm" - as in you may harm, or may "emotionally harm" the child. However, you "may" not.

But no actual harm has occurred, because the baby isn't born yet.

This is "socialism" and socialist planning at it's most evil.

But "may harm" is too remote an argument.

If no actual harm has occurred, I cannot see how they're justifying the snatching of babies from hospitals, with or without care orders, at birth.

[m4jxxhuskyxx]

Why have Coram been adopting children under 8 yrs old on their "Concurrent Placement" scheme for over 15 yrs in the US. Yet here in the UK the same placement only applies to under 2 yrs old. Strange wouldnt you say?

[m4jxxhuskyxx]

I truly believe its the Family Court secrets that will be written down in history not your term as our PM.

Justice must be seen to be done.

Social Workers must be held accountable for their lies. Dont hand heart lie and state otherwise. There is a lot of cases as you well know..

[m4jxxhuskyxx]

I cannot understand the audacity of your pathetic excuse to justify pre-birth adoptions.

Lets talk hard cash Tony

Or common purpose?

[shitfuck53]

So Blair is the new Goebbels,,,, Nice

[UKSecretCourts]

It beggars belief!

It's so much clearer, to hear him say this stuff himself.

[thekrutch434]

this is similar to Hitler killing children who by age 1 didn't show signs of having a desirable IQ.

[UKSecretCourts]

Essex council adopted a child because one parent had a low IQ. There was no harm, no neglect, and the Dad didn't have a low IQ. Eric Pickles MP, tried to stop them, but the SS wouldn't stop the adoption.

This policy is abhorrent in practice.

Please let everyone know - so that we can stop it.

[anthonyo4]

with draw benefits...and then the child can grow up homeless with no food yeh that will sort those criminal little 3 year olds out...Blairs a fucking idiot

[mizlydia]

Soon they'll be taking everyone's children at birth, telling them that is the way it's supposed to be... and after a few years of being fed that lie, the sheep will all believe it. As they read their doublespeak rewritten history...

[catherinesara]

Yes, it is all eugenics- the creation of a superior race who enslave the huge majority.

These children chose their parents in order to have an experience on Earth- rich or poor is of no use to the soul experience.

I thought Mr Blair was catholic??

[catherinesara]

Those parents are being brainwashed through NLP.

[UKSecretCourts]

Pre Birth.... he actually says "pre birth".

This is Eugenics, plain and simple!

[catherinesara]

They move in if you think for yourself.

[catherinesara]

He sounds like Hitler.

[catherinesara]

Blair is dysfunctional.

How do we know??

Because the MIRROR NEVER LIES.

He is projecting his own unresolved inner child issues.

[ambervisions]

Tony Blair is crazy! THis is just insane!

[misterfisherman]

what it all boils down to is:its about blairs success and career,despite lacking know how in important issues,hes not going to lack that unimportant issue get in the way of his important career

[misterfisherman]

the state of britain needing help is less important than labour's career

[libertyrights]

Blairs i feel as not based things on factual evidance but on opions by made by others in the field of psychiatry who think they get inside our heads, who want to give us all a label and put is in a pigeon hole, as we are easier to control that way. It srikes me that is what it is all about Controld!!

Not what is best for families, Not what is best for Children.!!!

[libertyrights]

Blair fails to raise the issues of rebelious teenage years we all go through, where we are started to show our independance and show our dislike and intolarance for being told what to do unless it is by our peers.

The claims in make about drugs etc people from all walk of life take drugs even the rich and the powerful.

I feel that he is saying we are all bad parent because we do not do what the states says.

[libertyrights]

Blair i feel is attacting the poorer section of the population, and taking us back to the dark ages. It is impossible to spot who will be as Blair says " A Mennace to society" We each different influences from family,friends and the wider community.

[jaycee1042]

tony blair is a nutjob.

[Odysseylive]

You girls are the business!!!!!!! It makes all the hours of digging snatching ripping worth while.

I have double posted UKSECRETCOURTS, I am sorry I thought you were going to do a mix....... sorry.....sleep deprivation. ADHT or total insanity. The boys 18, so I am safe.

To ALL campaigners:

MASH UP VIDEOS, you are making political campaign videos and you have a lot talent in your ranks. You change this!! own youtube on the keywords, keep it moderate so granny can watch without wincing.

[onlycrazygal]

quoting, tim loughton,16/06/08 Some 33%LAC end up not in education,employment or training; Are,10 times more likely to be excluded from school,

27 percent of them have a statement of SEN.Teenage pregnancy rates—one in four women leaving care is either pregnant or already a mother. Such children are four times more likely to smoke, drink under age and take drugs, and last year 9.5 per cent of over-10s in the care system were cautioned for or convicted of an offence. WONDERFUL CORPERATE PARENT.

[paulagloria]

this is sickening....wait until patience poet sees it

[SSkissmyarse]

The facts speak for themselves, children taken into care a more likely to FAIL, more likely to become drug dependent, more likely to be imprisoned, more likely to have teen pregnancies, more likely to self harm, more likely to commit suicide.

Someone's been listening to the likes of the psychobabble squad from the nazi era still alive and well and making child protection policies, The Anna Freud centre, the tavistock clinic, coram all have their greasy fingers in the pie, time to cut them off.