Most Presbyterians came to Ireland during the Plantation to escape English persecution in Scotland( see Covenanters). They were then discriminated against over here. I see myself as a loyal British citizen now-but would probably have sided with Wolfe Tone in 1798. Presbyterians were taxed to pay towards the CoI, and marriages were not considered as legal. We then turned our attention to America and became the most important single race in American history.
fuck the protestants your NOT IRISH your only IRISH if your a CATHOLIC you protestant are british cock suckers your not IRISH you moght as well be english because you are
@Nacionalistickihrva9 So you are not a supporter of the croatian ustashi?? Many old works connecting the United Irishmen to the illuminati. I could suggest a few for you. Captain H.B.C. Pollard "The Secret Societies of Ireland" (1922), Lady Queensbourgh's "Occult Theocrasy" (1933), "Fire in the Minds of Men" by U.S. Librarian of Congress James H. Billington, "The Vatican in World Politics" by Avro Manhattan. There are many more if you are interested.
lets stop all the bullshit.the protestant - presbyterians in ireland where fighting against the engish - anglican church because they were trying to put down their calvinist scots way of life and religious freedom. the same reason that they left scoland for counties antrim and down. .the irish catholics seen their chance and joined them.just as they did when the ulster volunteers were making their supremesacrafice at the somme 1st july 1916.
The majority of snakes are coloured green for a reason m8, the protestant faith that gathered the United Irishmen "of both faiths & traditions" were the same that fought under the bonnie blue flag of the Southern States of America, (even though a few years before, the Catholic Church thought they were ridding Europe of the plague of Protestantism by Murdering all the French Hughgonauts, (English spelling) but yet we are still here believers of an un virgin Mary & your own history is what became
It's a myth that Irish nationalism is a catholic thing, our culture goes further back than any branch of christianity. Irishmen together, standing up for our country, regardless of any faith
@worcesterjonny I suggest you read "Fire in the Minds of Men" by James H. Billington. I can also refer to other authoritative works to prove my point.
@WorshipInTruth I agree with WorcesterJonny, what are you on about? What the Dickens is an 'apostate protestant' when presbyterians weren't even regarded as Protestants? Anyway, it was the general elections of the 1880's that cemented the religious & political battle lines. Before that, Prods may have voted Nationalist and vice versa. not to mention liberal. The whole thing is utterly screwed and to prove it, if politicians want peace then why do they never push for mixed schools? Lying bastards
@WorshipInTruth During the rebellion of the United Irishmen Presbyterians were NOT regarded as bone-fide Protestants. The whole protestant/unionist 'line in the sand' only came about during the 1880's. Please read some Brian Walker books ( Prod lect @QUB) for clarification and other references (incase you think he's wrong).If Presbyterians were regarded as proper protestants then why were they a/ at odds with Anglicans (within Derry's walls) b/ emigrate to America and start the rebellion there?
@kermittoneill Presbyterians and Anglicans have often times been at odds but both are considered "Protestants" nonetheless. Actually, it is Anglicans [Anglo-Catholics] who are not considered to be bona-fide protestants. The primary reason for the disputes between presbyterians and anglicans is that many presbyterians have viewed the anglican church as being too close to Rome.
@kermittoneill You need to understand that there is "Low Church" Anglicanism which is heavily influenced by Presybterianism and "High Church" Anglicanism which Romanist in nature and doctrine. It is obvious to me that you know little of what you are talking about. The members of the "Protestant Ascendency" who were in the United Irishmen just happened to be apostate presbyterians.
@WorshipInTruth As impressive as your knowledge of different denominations is, you're missing MY point which is in past tense e.g I say Presbyterians WERE not regarded as Protestants back THEN, you reply by saying they ARE NOW. Everyone knows that, but the context of 18th century is the focal point here. So, again, the Presbyterians were DISSENTERS. They had their rights infringed hence their rebellions in Ireland and the New World. Out of interest, could you quote your references? I'm curious.
@kermittoneill But presbyterians WERE regarded as protestants, they always have been. Presbyterians are regarded as "Reformed protestants", Lutherans are sometimes also lumped together into this title to distinguish the two from baptist groups. Like I said, if anything, it is the protestantism of the Anglican Church which has always been brought into question.
@kermittoneill I used no references, what I have told you is common knowledge to anybody who knows about Protestant history. I suggest you look into the disputes which have occured within the Anglican Church and how people such as William Laud basically reverted Anglicanism back to an English form of Romanism.
@kermittoneill Your continued assertion that the Protestants of the United Irishmen are one and the same as the American colonists during the revolutionary war is ill conceived. Those who fought against the British during the war were almost exclusively SCOTS-IRISH, meaning they were the exact people whose history and protestant culture you fenians are trying to destroy.
Famous quote by a colonial general: "Call this war by whatever name you may, only call it not an American rebellion; it is nothing more or less than a Scots-Irish Presbyterian rebellion." Most Scotch Irish were Presbyterian and the ones that fled to America did so because THEY WERE PERSECUTED IN IRELAND FOR NOT BEING PROPER PROTESTANTS i.e. Anglican. I know this as I'm a presbyterian and interested in the real history of my people and not the spoon fed history that I was force fed in Ulster.
@kermittoneill I have presbyterian leanings as well and I am an American with English, Welch, Irish and Scottish ancestory. They were persecuted by popery, Northern Ireland became a dumping ground for many persecuted protestants, not only presbyterian Scots fleeing "High Church" Anglicanism (Anglo-Catholicism) on mainland England but also French and and Dutch and others fleeing catholicism on continental Europe.
@kermittoneill Still, most of the Scots who came to both Ireland and America did so under the patronage of great Protestant leaders such as Queen Elizabeth I, King James I, Oliver Cromwell etc. You are absolutely right about the revolutionary war being carried out almost completely by the liberty loving Presbyterian Scots-Irish people. This is one of the reasons I am so intereted in Ulster.
@kermittoneill From my side, it looks like the CONSERVATIVE presbyterians were the true protestants and that it was the anglican church who first went apostate. The puritans who first came to the colonies did so because they were fed up with the catholic rudiments the Church of England had adopted. Some of the Puritans tried to reform the Church of England back into the "pure" Protestant faith while the ones who advocated complete secession became known as the "pilgrims".
Well, I'll tell you what then mate, why don't we call it a day there then? I thought this was gonna spiral out of control, but thankfully not. If you are interested in Ulster then I strongly recommend those books I mentioned and above all "Dancing to History's Tune" by Brian Walker of Queen's university, it puts a great perspective on Ulster history and the way that people ignore the 'inconvenient bits'. Take care
@kermittoneill A little known fact is that one of the main reasons for the American revolution is that protestants were angered over the Quebec Act, in which George III gave Quebec to the catholics. This was known by the colonists as the "Intolerable Act". Freedom loving protestant Americans denounced the Act for promoting the growth of what they termed "papism" and for cutting back on their freedom and traditional rights.
REFERENCES: The Scots Irish in America, Legacy, by AJ McReynolds , Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America, by J Webb. Scots-Irish in Pennslyvania & Kentucky, by Billy Kennedy and one which I recommend for you in particular as it deals with the neuroses of NI's prods (now including Presbyterians et al) "The men whom God made mad" by Derek Lundy. If you bark at reading his surname then that'll satisfy my point as you'll probably think "He's got the name of a traitor! I won't read that!
@kermittoneill In other words, they knew King George III was working for the Jesuits as he was protecting the Jesuits while they were suppressed by the papacy and he had allowed them entry into Quebec. You read up on colonial anger over the papist "Quebec Act".
The Quebec act is important, but why do you not see this as a stunt that back-fired? As mad as he was, Georgie boy knew that he had annoyed the colonies so this COULD be seen as a way of ensuring that at least that he had some support in the New World. I know there is controversy surrounding him and the Jesuits, but I need to read a lot more over the next few years before I can come out with big statements like you are doing. We have to explore things from all angles, this is why NI is a mess...
@kermittoneill In other words, they knew King George III was working for the Jesuits as he was protecting the Jesuits while they were suppressed by the papacy and he had allowed them entry into Quebec. You read up on colonial anger over the papist "Quebec Act".
What Connexions does an extinct monastic military order of the Crusade and an extinct fraternal society in Bavaria have with a group of Presbyterian fighting for the independence of their nation? You might have more luck linking them to the Knights of Malta or the Order of the Garter, in so much as they, at the very least, exist in that period (and in our present era).
@WorshipInTruth Just read again what you wrote. Even a 9 year old wouldn't believe the superstitious fairytales you believe in. Grow up you f*****g moron
@montyjnr10 I was referring to the ridiculous set of beliefs you call your "religion". Now you haven't said that you're a religious person or not but I'd bet my bottom dollar that you are. And probably of some sort of Christian sect.
Now go spread your vile infantile little superstitions somewhere else you ignorant little cretin.
@montyjnr10 take ahteist sentiments somewhere alse. I'm a presbyterian Scot, but \i'm proud of my irish presbyterian ancestors who fought fopr in dependence
@AProdNationalist The Orange Order is a way for the jesuits to get their work done amongst anti-catholic Protestants. This is as the Orange Order is controlled by the inner masonic "Black Royal Institution" which is a side branch of the British Knights of Malta which are in turn conneceted to the papal Knights of Malta. So yes, certain leaders of the Orange Order ARE traitors, just like you "protestant" fenians who fight for a roman catholic ireland.
@AProdNationalist That is why nowadays it is not uncommon to see the Orange Order actually marching alongside the catholic-fenian "Ancient Order of Hibernians". All fraternal nonsense. I thought the AOH and OO were supposed to be enemies? Ohh wait that is only for public consumption when in reality their leaders work together.
The 1798 rebellion was the major significant event which split the Protestants from the Catholics in Ireland.
Forcing the Protestant land lords to side with the British after rebel atrocities along with the Act of Union which preceeded it, making Ulster dependant on the free market benefits it brought along with it.
Yep... If the Irish rolled over, they would have got their full, united independance long ago.
I hate all these comments regarding religion, catholic, protestant or presbyterian, on a video of the United Irishmen, the one organisation in the history of Ireland that was true to the heart of the Irish cause and cared nothing about ones religion, only the freedom of each and every Irishman. Please take your sectarian ranting somewhere else...
How would those Protestants have felt at the act of cowardice by the IRA whereby they seperated a group of road workers in Northern Ireland, The Protestants were ordered to one side, Roman Catholics to the other,
Worcesterjonny - ya know I've seen & commented on you vids before, and I am always amazed on how british neutral you are. Its was never a weird quirk of Irish history, what it was was irish men trying to get rid of the brits and loyalists who were invading & oppressing their country. The brits and there ancestors are responsible for the protestant issues. Religion is an excuse. This protestant supports a free and united Ireland. Saor Éire !
24482463 the Catholic church opposed the 1798 rebellion all over Ireland. 100 years later they gained control of Irish patriotism. This was a wrong done to Irish patriots of every denomination but especially protestants. I hope that we can build an irish patriotism that recognises that home rule WAS rome rule and doesn'tdiminish the emotional connection of Irish (Ulster) Protestants to Britishness,
True. I was drunk when I posted that last comment! However it is nonsense to claim (as some do) that the 1798 rebels somehow ended all sectarian hostility in Ulster. In fact their activities probably made it worse.
How did it make it worse the Presbyterians protestants of that era were even more discriminated against than the catholic irish, they knew as do all Repuublicans that the root causes of conflict lay in Britians occupation of their country, so they planned to over throw them, however some protestants sided with the crown thus sectarians was fermented by the brits whichs lasts to this day!!
The Orange in the Irish flag is said to represent the Protestant people of Ireland, we seen how those oh so peace loving Irish Republicans rioted and stopped the Orangemen from celebrating their culture there.
This song is perhaps the most hypocritical piece of blatant propoganda Ive ever heard !
The true bigotry is of course those Prods left in the south of Ireland after partition were treated with absolute contempt and many had to flee for their own safety, others were not so fortunate !
Get real. The first president of the republic was a protestant! Douglas Hyde. WBYeats even bloody Bono proud Irish! The only biggotry was up North, - where catholics did not have civil rights - hence 30 wasted years of shit.
The orange march was allowed by the state. It obviously didn't have the support of Dublin inner city youths. It was a shit stirring for the cameras. Ita worse that catholic kids cant walk to holy cross school without loyalist biggot thugs abusing them.
All I and the world saw on BBC and UTV was pictures of grown redfaced men screaming and spitting at women taking their young kids to school. They PSNI had to protect them. Did one of the kids call a 6ft skin head something rude in Ardoyne? What was said? it must have been awful to turn all those men into child abusing psychos. 2 wrongs don't make a right. thats the problem with the North. They ALWAYS over react. Shower of hot heads.
If you want a bigoted story heres one. 7 Generations ago a member of my family who was a Presbyterian United Irish man spent almost 2 years in Newgate jail in Dublin. He was there from January 1797. During this time his family had no income and his four kids only survived starvation because other family members fed them. This hardship wasnt enough for the Catholic Monaghan Militia, they burnt their cottage down and left the family homeless. This directly led to the death of two of the children.
Terrible story there but the Militias were officially sanctioned crown forces noted for their brutality. they were Protestants. They wouldn't have liked a "republican" in their midst. That said Catholics did burn down houses of planters was it "the defenders?"
I think if you read the book "The Irish Experience: a Concise History" By Thomas E. Hachey, Joseph M. Hernon, Lawrence John McCaffrey. It clearly says, on page 48, that the Monaghan Militia were Catholics and they terrorised Belfast & the surrounding areas in 1798.
Sorry for your family loss. Bigotry will always exsist in one form or another. What matters is that fact that a united ireland, free from foriegn rule, has always been at the front of the irish heart. I stand against anyone who puts their religion in front of a united ireland. Take care.
catholic, protestant and dissenter, all together to fight the evil imperialism of British empire. Thats what republicanism is- for all you bigots and ignorants that think the trouble in Ireland is some kind of tribal religious dispute, thats the way the establishment media want to portray it. Divide and conquer they say. Workers Unite One and All for liberty, freedom peace and justice
My grandfather and his family had to leave their home and business in Dublin or else the IRA would have killed him because he had the wrong surname and the wrong religion lad. If you really want to talk about people talking with forked tongues just look at your boys McGuinness and Adams how many people's blood have they on their hands that they will never admit to? For all their crimes and brutalities at least the loyalist killers yell the fucking truth son.
Most Presbyterians came to Ireland during the Plantation to escape English persecution in Scotland( see Covenanters). They were then discriminated against over here. I see myself as a loyal British citizen now-but would probably have sided with Wolfe Tone in 1798. Presbyterians were taxed to pay towards the CoI, and marriages were not considered as legal. We then turned our attention to America and became the most important single race in American history.
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fuck the protestants your NOT IRISH your only IRISH if your a CATHOLIC you protestant are british cock suckers your not IRISH you moght as well be english because you are
irishroverclover15 3 months ago
@irishroverclover15 . Don't be a knob bud, waken up to the ethic of which the story tells !!!
j1mbow79 2 months ago 4
@irishroverclover15 so your saying fuck wolfetone one of the founding fathers of IRISH republicanism im not getting it at all
nikkithescaff1 1 day ago
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Look at my background and see what catholics really think of Protestants.
ProtestantThomas 3 months ago
@Nacionalistickihrva9 So you are not a supporter of the croatian ustashi?? Many old works connecting the United Irishmen to the illuminati. I could suggest a few for you. Captain H.B.C. Pollard "The Secret Societies of Ireland" (1922), Lady Queensbourgh's "Occult Theocrasy" (1933), "Fire in the Minds of Men" by U.S. Librarian of Congress James H. Billington, "The Vatican in World Politics" by Avro Manhattan. There are many more if you are interested.
WorshipInTruth 4 months ago
@Nacionalistickihrva9 Thats great coming from a supporter of croatian fascists and irish terrorist organizations.
WorshipInTruth 4 months ago
lets stop all the bullshit.the protestant - presbyterians in ireland where fighting against the engish - anglican church because they were trying to put down their calvinist scots way of life and religious freedom. the same reason that they left scoland for counties antrim and down. .the irish catholics seen their chance and joined them.just as they did when the ulster volunteers were making their supremesacrafice at the somme 1st july 1916.
david1966dc 4 months ago
norn iron is british were fightin 4 freedom ftra gstq fgau
LOTN249 5 months ago
The majority of snakes are coloured green for a reason m8, the protestant faith that gathered the United Irishmen "of both faiths & traditions" were the same that fought under the bonnie blue flag of the Southern States of America, (even though a few years before, the Catholic Church thought they were ridding Europe of the plague of Protestantism by Murdering all the French Hughgonauts, (English spelling) but yet we are still here believers of an un virgin Mary & your own history is what became
Rabmunn 6 months ago
It's a myth that Irish nationalism is a catholic thing, our culture goes further back than any branch of christianity. Irishmen together, standing up for our country, regardless of any faith
Fealcos 7 months ago
@Taiginator Probably the most original thing I’ve seen on the internet since, maybe yesterday. Try harder....
itsmichaeljohn 7 months ago
@Taiginator Did you have a point to make or were you randomly hitting the keyboard until something semi-literate appeared?
itsmichaeljohn 7 months ago
YOU STILL FORGOT THE NORTH
NO SURRENDER
LordWellington15 8 months ago
Bogtrottin prods are still thick bogtrotters
aggyuvf 9 months ago
dont forget the english proddy rebels also true to the cause - roger casement - what a hero.
rhumbles 10 months ago
Bograt filth & traitors.
wankstains1 1 year ago
Those were largely apostate protestants. Members of the seditious Illuminati. They were involved with jesuitical secret societies.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth Fella your off your head!
worcesterjonny 1 year ago
@worcesterjonny I suggest you read "Fire in the Minds of Men" by James H. Billington. I can also refer to other authoritative works to prove my point.
WorshipInTruth 11 months ago
@WorshipInTruth I agree with WorcesterJonny, what are you on about? What the Dickens is an 'apostate protestant' when presbyterians weren't even regarded as Protestants? Anyway, it was the general elections of the 1880's that cemented the religious & political battle lines. Before that, Prods may have voted Nationalist and vice versa. not to mention liberal. The whole thing is utterly screwed and to prove it, if politicians want peace then why do they never push for mixed schools? Lying bastards
kermittoneill 1 year ago
@kermittoneill First of all, presbyterians are regarded as protestants. If you do not know what I am talking about than you need to educate yourself.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth During the rebellion of the United Irishmen Presbyterians were NOT regarded as bone-fide Protestants. The whole protestant/unionist 'line in the sand' only came about during the 1880's. Please read some Brian Walker books ( Prod lect @QUB) for clarification and other references (incase you think he's wrong).If Presbyterians were regarded as proper protestants then why were they a/ at odds with Anglicans (within Derry's walls) b/ emigrate to America and start the rebellion there?
kermittoneill 1 year ago
@kermittoneill Presbyterians and Anglicans have often times been at odds but both are considered "Protestants" nonetheless. Actually, it is Anglicans [Anglo-Catholics] who are not considered to be bona-fide protestants. The primary reason for the disputes between presbyterians and anglicans is that many presbyterians have viewed the anglican church as being too close to Rome.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@kermittoneill You need to understand that there is "Low Church" Anglicanism which is heavily influenced by Presybterianism and "High Church" Anglicanism which Romanist in nature and doctrine. It is obvious to me that you know little of what you are talking about. The members of the "Protestant Ascendency" who were in the United Irishmen just happened to be apostate presbyterians.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth As impressive as your knowledge of different denominations is, you're missing MY point which is in past tense e.g I say Presbyterians WERE not regarded as Protestants back THEN, you reply by saying they ARE NOW. Everyone knows that, but the context of 18th century is the focal point here. So, again, the Presbyterians were DISSENTERS. They had their rights infringed hence their rebellions in Ireland and the New World. Out of interest, could you quote your references? I'm curious.
kermittoneill 1 year ago
@kermittoneill But presbyterians WERE regarded as protestants, they always have been. Presbyterians are regarded as "Reformed protestants", Lutherans are sometimes also lumped together into this title to distinguish the two from baptist groups. Like I said, if anything, it is the protestantism of the Anglican Church which has always been brought into question.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@kermittoneill I used no references, what I have told you is common knowledge to anybody who knows about Protestant history. I suggest you look into the disputes which have occured within the Anglican Church and how people such as William Laud basically reverted Anglicanism back to an English form of Romanism.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@kermittoneill Your continued assertion that the Protestants of the United Irishmen are one and the same as the American colonists during the revolutionary war is ill conceived. Those who fought against the British during the war were almost exclusively SCOTS-IRISH, meaning they were the exact people whose history and protestant culture you fenians are trying to destroy.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
Famous quote by a colonial general: "Call this war by whatever name you may, only call it not an American rebellion; it is nothing more or less than a Scots-Irish Presbyterian rebellion." Most Scotch Irish were Presbyterian and the ones that fled to America did so because THEY WERE PERSECUTED IN IRELAND FOR NOT BEING PROPER PROTESTANTS i.e. Anglican. I know this as I'm a presbyterian and interested in the real history of my people and not the spoon fed history that I was force fed in Ulster.
kermittoneill 1 year ago
@kermittoneill I have presbyterian leanings as well and I am an American with English, Welch, Irish and Scottish ancestory. They were persecuted by popery, Northern Ireland became a dumping ground for many persecuted protestants, not only presbyterian Scots fleeing "High Church" Anglicanism (Anglo-Catholicism) on mainland England but also French and and Dutch and others fleeing catholicism on continental Europe.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@kermittoneill Still, most of the Scots who came to both Ireland and America did so under the patronage of great Protestant leaders such as Queen Elizabeth I, King James I, Oliver Cromwell etc. You are absolutely right about the revolutionary war being carried out almost completely by the liberty loving Presbyterian Scots-Irish people. This is one of the reasons I am so intereted in Ulster.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@kermittoneill From my side, it looks like the CONSERVATIVE presbyterians were the true protestants and that it was the anglican church who first went apostate. The puritans who first came to the colonies did so because they were fed up with the catholic rudiments the Church of England had adopted. Some of the Puritans tried to reform the Church of England back into the "pure" Protestant faith while the ones who advocated complete secession became known as the "pilgrims".
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
Well, I'll tell you what then mate, why don't we call it a day there then? I thought this was gonna spiral out of control, but thankfully not. If you are interested in Ulster then I strongly recommend those books I mentioned and above all "Dancing to History's Tune" by Brian Walker of Queen's university, it puts a great perspective on Ulster history and the way that people ignore the 'inconvenient bits'. Take care
kermittoneill 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth You opinions are misinformed.
suppernoddypo2k7 1 year ago
@kermittoneill A little known fact is that one of the main reasons for the American revolution is that protestants were angered over the Quebec Act, in which George III gave Quebec to the catholics. This was known by the colonists as the "Intolerable Act". Freedom loving protestant Americans denounced the Act for promoting the growth of what they termed "papism" and for cutting back on their freedom and traditional rights.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
REFERENCES: The Scots Irish in America, Legacy, by AJ McReynolds , Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America, by J Webb. Scots-Irish in Pennslyvania & Kentucky, by Billy Kennedy and one which I recommend for you in particular as it deals with the neuroses of NI's prods (now including Presbyterians et al) "The men whom God made mad" by Derek Lundy. If you bark at reading his surname then that'll satisfy my point as you'll probably think "He's got the name of a traitor! I won't read that!
kermittoneill 1 year ago
@kermittoneill In other words, they knew King George III was working for the Jesuits as he was protecting the Jesuits while they were suppressed by the papacy and he had allowed them entry into Quebec. You read up on colonial anger over the papist "Quebec Act".
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
The Quebec act is important, but why do you not see this as a stunt that back-fired? As mad as he was, Georgie boy knew that he had annoyed the colonies so this COULD be seen as a way of ensuring that at least that he had some support in the New World. I know there is controversy surrounding him and the Jesuits, but I need to read a lot more over the next few years before I can come out with big statements like you are doing. We have to explore things from all angles, this is why NI is a mess...
kermittoneill 1 year ago
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@kermittoneill In other words, they knew King George III was working for the Jesuits as he was protecting the Jesuits while they were suppressed by the papacy and he had allowed them entry into Quebec. You read up on colonial anger over the papist "Quebec Act".
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth
When a man bring up the words 'Illuminati' or 'Templar', 'tis fifty to one, sir, that the poor fella's much afflicted by great madness.
jiahua448 1 year ago
@jiahua448 Seems to me that you are afflicted with ignorance.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth
What Connexions does an extinct monastic military order of the Crusade and an extinct fraternal society in Bavaria have with a group of Presbyterian fighting for the independence of their nation? You might have more luck linking them to the Knights of Malta or the Order of the Garter, in so much as they, at the very least, exist in that period (and in our present era).
jiahua448 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth Just read again what you wrote. Even a 9 year old wouldn't believe the superstitious fairytales you believe in. Grow up you f*****g moron
montyjnr10 11 months ago
@montyjnr10 Superstitious fairytales?? You are obviously very ignorant of the history.
WorshipInTruth 11 months ago
@montyjnr10 I was referring to the ridiculous set of beliefs you call your "religion". Now you haven't said that you're a religious person or not but I'd bet my bottom dollar that you are. And probably of some sort of Christian sect.
Now go spread your vile infantile little superstitions somewhere else you ignorant little cretin.
montyjnr10 11 months ago
@montyjnr10 take ahteist sentiments somewhere alse. I'm a presbyterian Scot, but \i'm proud of my irish presbyterian ancestors who fought fopr in dependence
johnjohnnyist 10 months ago
@WorshipInTruth hay fuck you
metisman100 5 months ago
@WorshipInTruth lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala Land
22grena 4 months ago
@WorshipInTruth No they weren't you wankbag
AProdNationalist 4 months ago
@AProdNationalist Sure they were, the connections are recorded in various works.
WorshipInTruth 4 months ago
@WorshipInTruth What you smoking lad
AProdNationalist 4 months ago
@AProdNationalist Quiet yerself ya bloody traitor.
WorshipInTruth 4 months ago
@WorshipInTruth I'm a traitor hahaha, The Orange Order are the traitors
AProdNationalist 4 months ago
@AProdNationalist The Orange Order is a way for the jesuits to get their work done amongst anti-catholic Protestants. This is as the Orange Order is controlled by the inner masonic "Black Royal Institution" which is a side branch of the British Knights of Malta which are in turn conneceted to the papal Knights of Malta. So yes, certain leaders of the Orange Order ARE traitors, just like you "protestant" fenians who fight for a roman catholic ireland.
WorshipInTruth 4 months ago
@AProdNationalist That is why nowadays it is not uncommon to see the Orange Order actually marching alongside the catholic-fenian "Ancient Order of Hibernians". All fraternal nonsense. I thought the AOH and OO were supposed to be enemies? Ohh wait that is only for public consumption when in reality their leaders work together.
WorshipInTruth 4 months ago
@WorshipInTruth Go back to your cave ye hermit
AProdNationalist 4 months ago
It took prods to do a job right. We still show you how to fight like we did in 1690!
loyalprd 1 year ago
The 1798 rebellion was the major significant event which split the Protestants from the Catholics in Ireland.
Forcing the Protestant land lords to side with the British after rebel atrocities along with the Act of Union which preceeded it, making Ulster dependant on the free market benefits it brought along with it.
Yep... If the Irish rolled over, they would have got their full, united independance long ago.
Terrorism = Failure.
Catholicism777 1 year ago
Who cares about religion? It's about freedom from foreign rule
Carmex776 1 year ago
I hate all these comments regarding religion, catholic, protestant or presbyterian, on a video of the United Irishmen, the one organisation in the history of Ireland that was true to the heart of the Irish cause and cared nothing about ones religion, only the freedom of each and every Irishman. Please take your sectarian ranting somewhere else...
itsmichaeljohn 1 year ago 8
Thanks for some sanity:)
worcesterjonny 1 year ago
How would those Protestants have felt at the act of cowardice by the IRA whereby they seperated a group of road workers in Northern Ireland, The Protestants were ordered to one side, Roman Catholics to the other,
the Protestants were ALL shot dead !!
IRA = Sectarian Terrorist Murderers.
MrStruth 2 years ago
Jesus Christ has returned. I AM.
IAMJESUSmovie 2 years ago
Worcesterjonny - ya know I've seen & commented on you vids before, and I am always amazed on how british neutral you are. Its was never a weird quirk of Irish history, what it was was irish men trying to get rid of the brits and loyalists who were invading & oppressing their country. The brits and there ancestors are responsible for the protestant issues. Religion is an excuse. This protestant supports a free and united Ireland. Saor Éire !
AmonCahan 2 years ago
24482463 the Catholic church opposed the 1798 rebellion all over Ireland. 100 years later they gained control of Irish patriotism. This was a wrong done to Irish patriots of every denomination but especially protestants. I hope that we can build an irish patriotism that recognises that home rule WAS rome rule and doesn'tdiminish the emotional connection of Irish (Ulster) Protestants to Britishness,
suburbansuperstar 2 years ago
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gerryarmstrong82 2 years ago
What is nonsense? - The video is factually correct!
worcesterjonny 2 years ago
True. I was drunk when I posted that last comment! However it is nonsense to claim (as some do) that the 1798 rebels somehow ended all sectarian hostility in Ulster. In fact their activities probably made it worse.
gerryarmstrong82 2 years ago
How did it make it worse the Presbyterians protestants of that era were even more discriminated against than the catholic irish, they knew as do all Repuublicans that the root causes of conflict lay in Britians occupation of their country, so they planned to over throw them, however some protestants sided with the crown thus sectarians was fermented by the brits whichs lasts to this day!!
phoenix1916 2 years ago
The Orange in the Irish flag is said to represent the Protestant people of Ireland, we seen how those oh so peace loving Irish Republicans rioted and stopped the Orangemen from celebrating their culture there.
This song is perhaps the most hypocritical piece of blatant propoganda Ive ever heard !
The true bigotry is of course those Prods left in the south of Ireland after partition were treated with absolute contempt and many had to flee for their own safety, others were not so fortunate !
MrStruth 2 years ago
Get real. The first president of the republic was a protestant! Douglas Hyde. WBYeats even bloody Bono proud Irish! The only biggotry was up North, - where catholics did not have civil rights - hence 30 wasted years of shit.
The orange march was allowed by the state. It obviously didn't have the support of Dublin inner city youths. It was a shit stirring for the cameras. Ita worse that catholic kids cant walk to holy cross school without loyalist biggot thugs abusing them.
EamonnKee 2 years ago
Its strange that you don't mention that the Holy Cross incidents happened because local Protestants were abused at the Ardoyne shops.
24482263 2 years ago
All I and the world saw on BBC and UTV was pictures of grown redfaced men screaming and spitting at women taking their young kids to school. They PSNI had to protect them. Did one of the kids call a 6ft skin head something rude in Ardoyne? What was said? it must have been awful to turn all those men into child abusing psychos. 2 wrongs don't make a right. thats the problem with the North. They ALWAYS over react. Shower of hot heads.
EamonnKee 2 years ago
If you want a bigoted story heres one. 7 Generations ago a member of my family who was a Presbyterian United Irish man spent almost 2 years in Newgate jail in Dublin. He was there from January 1797. During this time his family had no income and his four kids only survived starvation because other family members fed them. This hardship wasnt enough for the Catholic Monaghan Militia, they burnt their cottage down and left the family homeless. This directly led to the death of two of the children.
24482263 2 years ago
Terrible story there but the Militias were officially sanctioned crown forces noted for their brutality. they were Protestants. They wouldn't have liked a "republican" in their midst. That said Catholics did burn down houses of planters was it "the defenders?"
EamonnKee 2 years ago
I think if you read the book "The Irish Experience: a Concise History" By Thomas E. Hachey, Joseph M. Hernon, Lawrence John McCaffrey. It clearly says, on page 48, that the Monaghan Militia were Catholics and they terrorised Belfast & the surrounding areas in 1798.
24482263 2 years ago
Sorry for your family loss. Bigotry will always exsist in one form or another. What matters is that fact that a united ireland, free from foriegn rule, has always been at the front of the irish heart. I stand against anyone who puts their religion in front of a united ireland. Take care.
AmonCahan 2 years ago
Tiocfailed Terror Campaign against the U.K dh ár lá!
G.S.O.Q
Dieu Et Mon Droit
Long Live the Union and Her Proud Long History!!!!
No Surrender
Respect the Orange on your Own Flag that is British!!!!!!!!!!
PeaceiHatetheword 2 years ago
MyBrainHurts00 was me btw
plus 38, brilliant
ShankillRoadRIRA 3 years ago
To them was known, a man, Wolfe Tone
ShankillRoadRIRA 3 years ago
catholic, protestant and dissenter, all together to fight the evil imperialism of British empire. Thats what republicanism is- for all you bigots and ignorants that think the trouble in Ireland is some kind of tribal religious dispute, thats the way the establishment media want to portray it. Divide and conquer they say. Workers Unite One and All for liberty, freedom peace and justice
larrycake1981 3 years ago
larrycake - too right my friend, it makes me despair that workers who should have a common ,united purpose are so easily turned against one another
Workers United
thelocarno 2 years ago
Great video!
AMason8634 3 years ago
Love it, Top marks, not many protestants like that these days, fuckin snakes
Ireland for the Irish
MyBrainHurts00 3 years ago 29
@MyBrainHurts00
My grandfather and his family had to leave their home and business in Dublin or else the IRA would have killed him because he had the wrong surname and the wrong religion lad. If you really want to talk about people talking with forked tongues just look at your boys McGuinness and Adams how many people's blood have they on their hands that they will never admit to? For all their crimes and brutalities at least the loyalist killers yell the fucking truth son.
Bud1UK 8 months ago