hi, As of now the Best of UG is not downdable, sorry, You can have someone copy it on their computer and copy the file into your computer if you like. Look for new Video of UG 19585 I am not a God Man, great quality and content. Coming soon, check Youtube
Bob, to this day not sure why UG would say to me Bob. However their was a tv show with Bob Cummings an actor, in the show different cast members would say Bob, UG said he used to watch this show. Some tape playing in his brain I guess.
Yea, you got it, I don't think there is any hope that anything will happen to change this situation, Condemning it only creates hope that it can change. No way out of the mess. Buddha came Buddha went nothing has changed, The rest all offer some hope, but nothing is there but empty words.
at 4:53 is one that sees the hopelessness that mankind has weaved itself in. Most people are in an endless "misery" of saying "NO" to this instant. The man that says the "truth" has VERY few friends, most people want to be lied to. Only a catastrophic event could possibly change mankind's pursuit of garbage , & even then those who survive will want to hold on to the bullshit of memory. That's not what I want but may be necessary for man to be shaken down and live like the animal that we are.
It may be hard for most people to see, that all ideas are the product of our culture and the ideas are there to help protect what we are, what we want and the very survival of what I am, We are afraid of death, coming to an end.
Religion is the issue, ideas on how to live, what to think and so on.
somebody said that he was just a angry man. But it seems that he was shouting very cutting and direct words mostly those analytical (indian) men around him those who asked the never ending questions and said but to everything he said. othervice sofnes of his voice and being is very much felt true these videos. pation does not mean being a vegetable or not to react or respond or to react and respond only "loving" way.
He saw people because they are attrracted to this kind of person a freshness and clear being he was. We are all selfish to the core its are nature, simple fact of life.UG was always open to see anyone night or day his little shop was never closed.
Keep reading and see his video's thats all thats left. It take time to see your self as you are, without all the thoughts, memories, and the culture that is the root of your false nature. Best Bob Carr
One defination is as good as another I guess, all depends what your personal background is, but don't give me all that psychologal jargin . I sugest you buy the video then make a statment, but statments are just words, ideas, discriptions about something. Take care. Robert
You have no way of knowing if he is an enlightened man, the concepts we have are all false, only more ideas that lead nowhere. Its not important to to say he was that or this, but what he says about living cannot be ignored.
I met UG in 1966 in Swtzerland, no one new who he was, and he was no different from anyone else. It was only in 1994 that UG went public, TV books, interviews.
So far I have never met anyone else like him or ever will. Take it easy and enjoy your life.
extra......ordinary person. there are other people like him on this earth.....people you know...people you see everyday...but its just that they have not been filmed nor interviewed...and i know that you will not listen to them because they are not famous or known. do not let yourself be fooled by media.....and as U G says..i am not here to change anyone...because there is nothing to change...
Really wished I'd had the chance to meet him. It's funny a lot of old friends I turned on to yoga via Swami Satyananda Swarswati (may have spelt wrong; dyslexic) are asking me how my practice is going & I can only say UG is the only one who makes any sense to me now. Some aren't impressed with that.
Dear Freind thats nice to hear from you, Over the years I have taped UG and finenly edit some of my tapes and others by Julie Thayer Have more tapes and someday hope to edit them also. Now living in Mumbai India and doing fine
@joshrain1 hey my friend yeah and i dont wantmoney, i just do it for that you enjoy this material but i'm living now in colombia and you? send me at inbox message
Hardly, UG grew up with the theosophy background, knew JK and spent many hours together in India. JK, UG and all the others are in your own background.
So we are original but but copies Got it?? Good luck.
No you are in confused state of what you call mind, I you knew him well, If you gad spent time with him you would not make such statements. lies are a moral issue and what you call morality is is policy no such thing as the truth. Just forget it and make the best of your life that can, good lick
All i can say is he was in a confused state of mind. Its like saying, i never lie, but others are scared to admit it. Here the problem is, he may not have realized that once you are aware of it, you need not have to lie.. and you don't have to bark about it. Would there be any difference? Psychedelic experience or symptoms?
Some friends and I talked to UG in 1966 about psychedelic experiences, he seemed to know about such exper. and his comments at the time were, they can be profound on one and create changes in their consciousness. How ever later after C he said all experiences are worthless, they are just second hand. Thought can create any thing it wants to have, from the lowest to the highest. So there you have it. All the best Robert
That's great! It's what I discovered by myself as well. You can have profound changes due to psychedelic experiences, but in the end, even such experiences will be worthless cos that 'ultimate state' (or whatever it is) is not touched even a line by anything. Thank you very much for the reply, Bob!
Curiously, he lived in Switzerland (where the 'calamity' happened), the birth place of LSD, substance which was usually based on ug (micrograms), and he insisted that what people call 'spiritual' experiences are not different of what is known as psychedelic experiences. Are you sure UG were not an acid-head, Bob? Heheh, joking, of course. But it's a curious coincidence, isn't it?
Curiously, he lived in Switzerland (where the 'calamity' happened), the birth place of LSD, substance which was usually based on ug (micrograms), and he insisted that what people call 'spiritual' experiences are not different of what is known as psychedelic experiences. Are you sure UG were not an acid-head, Bob? Heheh, joking, of course. But it's a curious coincidence, isn't it?
Two things that caught my attention in UG's physiognomy, besides the fact that he was a handsome man (and I'm not gay, make it clear to the eventual joking bastards), are his eyes' pupils, extremely dilated, that not even an acid-head would have, and his very white teeth. Perhaps his dilated pupils were the clearest symptom that he was really in another state. And his white teeth were due to his diet, of course. But his very dilated pupils really impresses.
thanks for your comments, its best yo use my email address,karob129@gmail.com
There is not much to say but life goes on and we can only do what we can do. It was a real experience to know UG and spend so much time with him. but now we have to lite our own fire and let it burn as it will.
Thats good you are grounded in yourself. Nothing else is needed. I happy to know you liked the Best of UG a long process to make, first the videos on the web but quality was not that great so decided to make a good edited version of my tapes and some of Julie Thayers A lone time coming, living in India a strange and changing place. My em karob129@gmail.com all the best Bob
@amar129 Yes, I can imagine how difficult it was to be made, but the remaster is classy, really appreciate a lot! Hope all the tapes u and other people who knew UG personally have recorded may be remastered and released too. In these times when the spiritual business is so spread all over the world it would be amazing. Cool the name "Dog Barking Productions" as well. And living in India might be strange even for a Brazilian like me! Heheh. Thank u Bob! I'll write to u asap!
First, did you know UG?. he was never against anything in this world. He just said please don't present me as a spiritual man. So he was aware of my interest in making a record of his so called teachings, Don't be so critical and know it all. You tell me what do you know , anything al all.
@amar129 Thank you very much for this great DVD, Bob! Nice contacting you who've been there with UG personally for so long. I've been in the search for 25 years (from 5 to 6 years I was already engaged in it, bred to to be one of those spiritual figures) and in the end I was a finished man, even physically, due to yogic asanas and the whole mumbo-jumbo, and such a very strange event occurred to me as well. Finding about UG was what helped me to fit myself in the place where I already were.
@SamuelSkelter hi..would you be willing to put up the dvd for download. i am willing to pay by pal. i am currently out of country nd with shipping cost it adds up. bob, what do you say?
It would be nice to have the full downloadable version, but, well, it's all Bob's work, mate, you have to talk to him. I'm just an UG fan thanking Bob very much for the work. But, I could help as possible, of course (let me know if there's something in which I may be helpful, ok Bob?).
UG is one who unburden his listener frm the concepts, beliefs,perceptions and ideas.He gives courage to see ones ownself as he/she is and not what he/she belives he or she is.
We should b our best in fuctional world but as far as spiritual process is concern we can do nothing except "seeing",as UG said "The only way for any one who is interested in finding out what this is all about is to watch how this separation is occurring, how you are separating yourself from the things that are happening around you and inside you." That is to see how ur mind works.
I am just curious: who is promoting this DVD? Everything from U.G. is and has always been available for free. He was never interested in promotion or selling. Will someone "buy" the rights on his stuff and will we have to pay for it then? Are his free videos going to be deleted then? I hope not, anyway I will offer my records of them everywhere if this is going to be the case.
UG is very appealing, nobody seems to make as much sense as he does. Although I find I'm still doing my yoga and with benefits, I just don't expect anything from it anymore!
The Great U. G. is the only honest, true and autentic man I have ever encountered. he is an anti-hero, he does not believe in God, he cannot lie because he is true to himself. this inability to falsify empathy ultimately condemns him. he has faith only in what he, himself, can see or experience with his other senses. He is not a philosopher, a theologian or a deep thinker. he exists as he is, not trying to be anything more or less than himself.
he relaits everything through the insite he atained from his sertch for some cind of speritual enlightenment. i think what he found was not what he expected or preconcived so he ses he found nuthing. and only got what he was looking for when he stoped looking. i am better 4 my serch, he clerifies what i have found, its just hard to exept some times,,lol
I think he will be completely forgotten, just like the sages of the old..Enshrined in the Upanishads or some old forgotten text! If Hinduism or Buddhism survive another 100yrs it may exist or else this heathens talk will be destroyed and thrown out.
@KarthikSoun yes only the fuzzy cute animals will servive,,lol
and the comferting go no where religions or the guru with the "sacred knowlage"
there is nuthing new under the sun. the oldest frozen man was shot in the back with a arow 5,000 years ago. and to day my cuntry the usa has to kill the middle east for oil, you are corect all truth is set aside for profit.
@KarthikSoun Forgotten? The mankind is the way it is without any innovative person till now cos people are always trying to be like a Buddha, a Jesus or don't know who that lived 2 or 5 or even 15 thousand years ago. Nobody is interested in anything different at all. If UG is forgotten it means that things are starting to be more fresh at least. You see, you people are even mistakenly taking UG as one of those spiritual men. Maybe people will mistakenly make him another mistaken Jesus...
recorded in bangalore.around 1997 at the farm house.
bob carr
amar129 1 month ago
hi, As of now the Best of UG is not downdable, sorry, You can have someone copy it on their computer and copy the file into your computer if you like. Look for new Video of UG 19585 I am not a God Man, great quality and content. Coming soon, check Youtube
Bob Carr
amar129 1 month ago
Where are the dollars?
amar129 2 months ago
Another day, another Dollar
UU361 2 months ago
Bob, to this day not sure why UG would say to me Bob. However their was a tv show with Bob Cummings an actor, in the show different cast members would say Bob, UG said he used to watch this show. Some tape playing in his brain I guess.
Bob
amar129 3 months ago
BOB!!!!!
TheSeekingIsOver 3 months ago
As far as I am concerned their is nothing to find or see or know, understanding is just an idea,
amar129 3 months ago
@amar129
amar129 3 months ago
Everyone to their own tast, said the old lady who kissed the cow. Perhaps you might take a look at the sick, perverse scarecrow inside you.
amar129 4 months ago
Yea, you got it, I don't think there is any hope that anything will happen to change this situation, Condemning it only creates hope that it can change. No way out of the mess. Buddha came Buddha went nothing has changed, The rest all offer some hope, but nothing is there but empty words.
amar129 4 months ago
@amar129 VERY true, and that is the end of the conversation, lol
Oneversal 4 months ago
at 4:53 is one that sees the hopelessness that mankind has weaved itself in. Most people are in an endless "misery" of saying "NO" to this instant. The man that says the "truth" has VERY few friends, most people want to be lied to. Only a catastrophic event could possibly change mankind's pursuit of garbage , & even then those who survive will want to hold on to the bullshit of memory. That's not what I want but may be necessary for man to be shaken down and live like the animal that we are.
Oneversal 4 months ago
You can say that again
amar129 4 months ago
"Shoot all the doctors on sight." - Ha, ha, excellent.
AirSandFire 4 months ago
It may be hard for most people to see, that all ideas are the product of our culture and the ideas are there to help protect what we are, what we want and the very survival of what I am, We are afraid of death, coming to an end.
Religion is the issue, ideas on how to live, what to think and so on.
amar129 5 months ago
I really have not much to say. Truth stands by it's self .
amar129 6 months ago
what's wrong with being angry or shouting at people to make a point
amar129 6 months ago
somebody said that he was just a angry man. But it seems that he was shouting very cutting and direct words mostly those analytical (indian) men around him those who asked the never ending questions and said but to everything he said. othervice sofnes of his voice and being is very much felt true these videos. pation does not mean being a vegetable or not to react or respond or to react and respond only "loving" way.
sumitraji 6 months ago
He saw people because they are attrracted to this kind of person a freshness and clear being he was. We are all selfish to the core its are nature, simple fact of life.UG was always open to see anyone night or day his little shop was never closed.
Keep reading and see his video's thats all thats left. It take time to see your self as you are, without all the thoughts, memories, and the culture that is the root of your false nature. Best Bob Carr
amar129 7 months ago
One defination is as good as another I guess, all depends what your personal background is, but don't give me all that psychologal jargin . I sugest you buy the video then make a statment, but statments are just words, ideas, discriptions about something. Take care. Robert
amar129 7 months ago
You have no way of knowing if he is an enlightened man, the concepts we have are all false, only more ideas that lead nowhere. Its not important to to say he was that or this, but what he says about living cannot be ignored.
Bob Carr
amar129 8 months ago
Two different peas in a pod, thanks for your comment. Or two rivers runinng in different directions
Bob Carr
amar129 9 months ago
I met UG in 1966 in Swtzerland, no one new who he was, and he was no different from anyone else. It was only in 1994 that UG went public, TV books, interviews.
So far I have never met anyone else like him or ever will. Take it easy and enjoy your life.
Bob
amar129 1 year ago
extra......ordinary person. there are other people like him on this earth.....people you know...people you see everyday...but its just that they have not been filmed nor interviewed...and i know that you will not listen to them because they are not famous or known. do not let yourself be fooled by media.....and as U G says..i am not here to change anyone...because there is nothing to change...
Tripl3333 1 year ago
write me at Karob129@gmial.com
amar129 1 year ago
Robert can you get this DVD in the UK?
Really wished I'd had the chance to meet him. It's funny a lot of old friends I turned on to yoga via Swami Satyananda Swarswati (may have spelt wrong; dyslexic) are asking me how my practice is going & I can only say UG is the only one who makes any sense to me now. Some aren't impressed with that.
darrenom 1 year ago
who is that old guy with glasses talking to UG and where can i find his and ug talk?
@ 2:20
joshrain1 1 year ago
which video ate you looking at?
amar129 1 year ago
which video are you looking at
Bob
amar129 1 year ago
which video are you looking at
Bob
amar129 1 year ago
Respond to this video... which video are you watching
amar129 1 year ago
Brain damaged LSD hippe
neilzep 1 year ago
Finally!!!!!
I´m looking forward for it!!!
Congratulations!!!
devarsbr 1 year ago
Dear Freind thats nice to hear from you, Over the years I have taped UG and finenly edit some of my tapes and others by Julie Thayer Have more tapes and someday hope to edit them also. Now living in Mumbai India and doing fine
Bob Carr
amar129 1 year ago
i HAVE THIS DVD AND IS SO AMAZING, SO GREAT, WAS FINISHED AND EDITED IN 2009 IN MUMBAI
overcontrol 1 year ago
@overcontrol would you be willing to share a copy for download. i can pay for it.
joshrain1 1 year ago
@joshrain1 hey my friend yeah and i dont wantmoney, i just do it for that you enjoy this material but i'm living now in colombia and you? send me at inbox message
overcontrol 1 year ago
Hardly, UG grew up with the theosophy background, knew JK and spent many hours together in India. JK, UG and all the others are in your own background.
So we are original but but copies Got it?? Good luck.
Robert Carr
amar129 1 year ago
This man seems to be the copy of J. Krishnamurti.
Punkeloco 1 year ago
No you are in confused state of what you call mind, I you knew him well, If you gad spent time with him you would not make such statements. lies are a moral issue and what you call morality is is policy no such thing as the truth. Just forget it and make the best of your life that can, good lick
Robert Carr
amar129 1 year ago
All i can say is he was in a confused state of mind. Its like saying, i never lie, but others are scared to admit it. Here the problem is, he may not have realized that once you are aware of it, you need not have to lie.. and you don't have to bark about it. Would there be any difference? Psychedelic experience or symptoms?
ckmash 1 year ago
Hi Samuel,
Some friends and I talked to UG in 1966 about psychedelic experiences, he seemed to know about such exper. and his comments at the time were, they can be profound on one and create changes in their consciousness. How ever later after C he said all experiences are worthless, they are just second hand. Thought can create any thing it wants to have, from the lowest to the highest. So there you have it. All the best Robert
.
amar129 1 year ago
@amar129 Hi Bob,
That's great! It's what I discovered by myself as well. You can have profound changes due to psychedelic experiences, but in the end, even such experiences will be worthless cos that 'ultimate state' (or whatever it is) is not touched even a line by anything. Thank you very much for the reply, Bob!
All the best,
Samuel
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
Curiously, he lived in Switzerland (where the 'calamity' happened), the birth place of LSD, substance which was usually based on ug (micrograms), and he insisted that what people call 'spiritual' experiences are not different of what is known as psychedelic experiences. Are you sure UG were not an acid-head, Bob? Heheh, joking, of course. But it's a curious coincidence, isn't it?
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
Curiously, he lived in Switzerland (where the 'calamity' happened), the birth place of LSD, substance which was usually based on ug (micrograms), and he insisted that what people call 'spiritual' experiences are not different of what is known as psychedelic experiences. Are you sure UG were not an acid-head, Bob? Heheh, joking, of course. But it's a curious coincidence, isn't it?
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
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SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
Two things that caught my attention in UG's physiognomy, besides the fact that he was a handsome man (and I'm not gay, make it clear to the eventual joking bastards), are his eyes' pupils, extremely dilated, that not even an acid-head would have, and his very white teeth. Perhaps his dilated pupils were the clearest symptom that he was really in another state. And his white teeth were due to his diet, of course. But his very dilated pupils really impresses.
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
Hi Samuel,
thanks for your comments, its best yo use my email address,karob129@gmail.com
There is not much to say but life goes on and we can only do what we can do. It was a real experience to know UG and spend so much time with him. but now we have to lite our own fire and let it burn as it will.
Bob
amar129 1 year ago
@amar129 Hi Bob,
Yes, I sent you a short message to your email address.
You said it all - "But now we have to lite our own fire and let it burn as it will."
That's it.
All the best,
Samuel
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
Thats good you are grounded in yourself. Nothing else is needed. I happy to know you liked the Best of UG a long process to make, first the videos on the web but quality was not that great so decided to make a good edited version of my tapes and some of Julie Thayers A lone time coming, living in India a strange and changing place. My em karob129@gmail.com all the best Bob
amar129 1 year ago
@amar129 Yes, I can imagine how difficult it was to be made, but the remaster is classy, really appreciate a lot! Hope all the tapes u and other people who knew UG personally have recorded may be remastered and released too. In these times when the spiritual business is so spread all over the world it would be amazing. Cool the name "Dog Barking Productions" as well. And living in India might be strange even for a Brazilian like me! Heheh. Thank u Bob! I'll write to u asap!
All the best,
Samuel
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
First, did you know UG?. he was never against anything in this world. He just said please don't present me as a spiritual man. So he was aware of my interest in making a record of his so called teachings, Don't be so critical and know it all. You tell me what do you know , anything al all.
Robert Carr
amar129 1 year ago
@amar129 Thank you very much for this great DVD, Bob! Nice contacting you who've been there with UG personally for so long. I've been in the search for 25 years (from 5 to 6 years I was already engaged in it, bred to to be one of those spiritual figures) and in the end I was a finished man, even physically, due to yogic asanas and the whole mumbo-jumbo, and such a very strange event occurred to me as well. Finding about UG was what helped me to fit myself in the place where I already were.
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
@SamuelSkelter hi..would you be willing to put up the dvd for download. i am willing to pay by pal. i am currently out of country nd with shipping cost it adds up. bob, what do you say?
joshrain1 1 year ago
@joshrain1
Hi Josh,
It would be nice to have the full downloadable version, but, well, it's all Bob's work, mate, you have to talk to him. I'm just an UG fan thanking Bob very much for the work. But, I could help as possible, of course (let me know if there's something in which I may be helpful, ok Bob?).
All the best,
Samuel
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
U.G. would not be happy at all with this DVD. It's the very thing he was against.
VegaBjorn 1 year ago
What are constantuenelements?
CrazeReign 1 year ago
so when is this dvd coming out and where do I buy it from???
CuckYourFouch 1 year ago
the one that talks the least has the most understanding.
legendofakira 1 year ago
UG is one who unburden his listener frm the concepts, beliefs,perceptions and ideas.He gives courage to see ones ownself as he/she is and not what he/she belives he or she is.
9861356322 2 years ago 5
Right, Now what is to be done??? nothing or keep moving.
amar129 2 years ago
We should b our best in fuctional world but as far as spiritual process is concern we can do nothing except "seeing",as UG said "The only way for any one who is interested in finding out what this is all about is to watch how this separation is occurring, how you are separating yourself from the things that are happening around you and inside you." That is to see how ur mind works.
9861356322 2 years ago
@9861356322 Well said!=)
1Earth0Karma8 1 year ago
I am just curious: who is promoting this DVD? Everything from U.G. is and has always been available for free. He was never interested in promotion or selling. Will someone "buy" the rights on his stuff and will we have to pay for it then? Are his free videos going to be deleted then? I hope not, anyway I will offer my records of them everywhere if this is going to be the case.
0NonZens0 2 years ago
When someone asked UG about his autobiography he shouted 'some bastard wrote it, not me. Why would i write an autobiography?'
sonofthedestroyer 2 years ago
UG would probably have pissed on this DVD, just like everything else.
:P
kasuskasus 2 years ago 3
@kasuskasus,
LOL yes
sonofthedestroyer 1 year ago
Is the DVD available yet? I am eager to see it. Thank you!
cygnusvideo 2 years ago
I look forward to this DVD - the quality of the videos look awesome. It should be an absolute gem.
annisha1975 2 years ago
Calling this pretentious bullshit...would be an insult to pretentious bullshit.
dumplechan 2 years ago
Is this DVD available? How do I get it? UG laid the Truth out like not other.
mcgyver62 2 years ago
Darrenom:
What can one do, nothing. just do what you want to do, it doesn't matter. You will anyway as you have no choice, Good luck thanks for your note.
Bob
amar129 2 years ago
UG is very appealing, nobody seems to make as much sense as he does. Although I find I'm still doing my yoga and with benefits, I just don't expect anything from it anymore!
darrenom 2 years ago
The Great U. G. is the only honest, true and autentic man I have ever encountered. he is an anti-hero, he does not believe in God, he cannot lie because he is true to himself. this inability to falsify empathy ultimately condemns him. he has faith only in what he, himself, can see or experience with his other senses. He is not a philosopher, a theologian or a deep thinker. he exists as he is, not trying to be anything more or less than himself.
khaldoun62 2 years ago
he relaits everything through the insite he atained from his sertch for some cind of speritual enlightenment. i think what he found was not what he expected or preconcived so he ses he found nuthing. and only got what he was looking for when he stoped looking. i am better 4 my serch, he clerifies what i have found, its just hard to exept some times,,lol
DANTHETUBEMAN 2 years ago
Thanks, We hope the DVD will be ready in a month or two, Check ion ugkrishnamnurti,org for announcements. thank you for yiour interest.
Bob
amar129 2 years ago
Where can I order the DVD?
reddyda 2 years ago
Whats the problem? must be yours not mine. Did you know him? I think not .
Bob
amar129 2 years ago
its shameful how they sell his words...
sizzla123 2 years ago
in a cuple hundred years who knows whay the world will tern his words in two,,,
DANTHETUBEMAN 2 years ago
I think he will be completely forgotten, just like the sages of the old..Enshrined in the Upanishads or some old forgotten text! If Hinduism or Buddhism survive another 100yrs it may exist or else this heathens talk will be destroyed and thrown out.
KarthikSoun 1 year ago
@KarthikSoun yes only the fuzzy cute animals will servive,,lol
and the comferting go no where religions or the guru with the "sacred knowlage"
there is nuthing new under the sun. the oldest frozen man was shot in the back with a arow 5,000 years ago. and to day my cuntry the usa has to kill the middle east for oil, you are corect all truth is set aside for profit.
DANTHETUBEMAN 1 year ago
@KarthikSoun Forgotten? The mankind is the way it is without any innovative person till now cos people are always trying to be like a Buddha, a Jesus or don't know who that lived 2 or 5 or even 15 thousand years ago. Nobody is interested in anything different at all. If UG is forgotten it means that things are starting to be more fresh at least. You see, you people are even mistakenly taking UG as one of those spiritual men. Maybe people will mistakenly make him another mistaken Jesus...
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
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