And what were European countries, the USA, all CAPITALIST countries before the 19th centuries???
"more than 90% literacy "
GREAT SUCCESS!! I I knew soiclaism would prevail!! Now I see why it was worth it to KILL 25 MILLION PEOPLE in the SU alone, install a BRUTAL DICTATORSHIP, a secret police, TERROR by the KGB, and abolish any sort of INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM and ending a NIGHTMARE out of POVERTY and MISERY!!
@joaquinveyron I don't know whos comment you're responding to but it's not mine! Anyway, i'll give an answer your drivel.
Do you know the origins, aims and intentions of Communism? If you haven't, then I suggest that you read up on it. The aristocrats were taking the pish with the wealth, which wasn't created by them, whilst the country is starving! Something had to be done and so it was in 1917. Anyway, to cut a long story short, the measures which you demonise were needed.
@utlegation "Do you know the origins, aims and intentions of Communism?"
Dimwit, do you know the RESULTS; the CONSEQUENCES and MEANS of communism??? Then you should study history: POVERTY, DICTATORSHIP, FAMINES; IN-EFFICIENCY, TERROR and MURDER ... tahts all what you will get as a direct and logic consequence of marxism, you brain amputated monkey!
Of course, something had to be done to solve the problems people had in the 19th century. While communists only increased the misery and poverty for the people, capitalists indulged in the so called Industrial Revolution that EFFECTIVELY solved most of the most urgend problems of the workers and bettered life for everyone in the long run anyhow.
@joaquinveyron And it looks like its going to happen all over again on a global scale but this time, the people won't be fooled again! Capitalism had its chance and has FAILED! You talk about poverty, terror, freedom and misery? LOOK at Africa, LOOK at parts of Asia, LOOK at what the U.S. has done to the Middle East and many other countries in its relentless terror campaigns, all in the name of 'freedom' And the U.S. SUPPORTS brutal dictatorships! LOL! Give me a break!
@utlegation "Capitalism had its chance and has FAILED! "
Ah, really?? :-)
Dimwit, the only countries in mankind's history where democracy and relative high standard of living were achieved werre ... ah, right, you guess it right CAPITALISTIC ones, you brain amputated monkey!
@utlegation "And the U.S. SUPPORTS brutal dictatorships"
Such as?? Ah, right, they got rid of
- the dictator Saddam Hussein
- they freed South Korea from NKorean communist aggressors. Thanks to the US, the S Koreans nowadays enjoy CAPITALISTIC FREEDOM and PROSPERITY, while NKoreans suffer endlessly in a COMMUNIST CONCENTRATION CAMP called NKorea
- without the US Western EUrope would have become a COMMUNIST SHITHOLE that Eastern Europe had been.
@joaquinveyron Not just Saddam. You seem to forget that MOST dictators are supported by the U.S. Reasons? Someone to deal with in order to aquire resources on the cheap and to weaken those countries perceived as a 'threat' ie democracy ONLY when it suits the U.S. eg Saudi Arabia. You REALLY have a lot to learn! Or perhaps youre just too thick! ;)
Yeah, what about Africa?? Where do you see the principles of capitalism, i.e. freedom of the individual, private property, order and peace at play?? Half of Africa was socialistic, by the way, and failed catastrophically.
@joaquinveyron Did you know that israel gets more U.S. aid than all of Africa put together? If you think thats morally right, you really do have issues. Im done with talking with you. You have really proved yourself to be one hell of an imbecile!
@utlegation "Did you know that israel gets more U.S. aid than all of Africa put together? "
Yaaaaaawwn ... dimwit, can you get at least something right??? The economic aid the US paid to Israel is 52 mio. USD. The amount Kenya receives alone is around 940 mio. USD. The West Banks/Gaza 1,045 mio. USD.
Of course, you are, because you never have/had ARGUMENTS/FACTS. But this is always the case with dumb, uneducated liberals like you. They chicken out when it comes to ARGUMENTS.
So according a liberal dimwit like you it is immoral to give aid to a country??? Aha, interesting. What has this to do with the COMPLETE and UTTER FAILURE of COMMUNISM anyhow???!
@utlegation Dimwit, ok, here we go again ... since a leftist DIMWIT like you is incapable of naming just ONE EXAMPLE where communism worked, you try to have a go on capitalism, well you try it ... in vain :-)
You call it an "utter failure of capitalism" when capitalism led in most of the case to PROSPERITY; FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY???
@joaquinveyron 1. 'leftist dimwit' - don't think i've ever witnessed such unabashed political discrimination.
2. the failure of communism in the past say nothing with regard to future attempts at an egalitarian society, revisionist-socialism exists by the way. The LIBERTARIAN LEFT has never been given a genuine shot at political hegemony (bar a brief spell in Spain) -your qualms lie with authoritarianism, not leftism.
@DamiaanVDW "the failure of communism in the past say nothing with regard to future attempts at an egalitarian society"
WHAT? The failure of any socialism in the future will be even BIGGER??? The failure of LEFTIST DIMWITS/COMMUNIST LOSERS up to now is hard to match :-)
@DamiaanVDW "your qualms lie with authoritarianism, not leftism."
DIMWIT, again i pay you 1 MILLION of my CAPITALISTIC euros if you brain amputated douche are able to explain how it is possible to put leftists "ideas" such as egalitarianism (in terms of OUTCOME) into practice WITHOUT authoritarianism/totalitarianism, you blistering imbecile.
@joaquinveyron 3a. I'll grant you Prosperity. 3b. Democracy in capitalist economies is enormously distorted by concentrated capital, research (in depth) the system of election in America and you'll find that largely governments buy (or campaign) their way into power.
3c. I'll grant you Freedom if you acknowledge that it is POSITIVE FREEDOM - market freedom, the freedom to exploit and dominate the market -and thereby, the people.
there's a "go at capitalism" - & do some research.
@DamiaanVDW "3b. Democracy in capitalist economies is enormously distorted by concentrated capital"
Really, DIMWIT. Is that so? :-)
Whatever this might true or not, obviously you can vote, make use of your freedom of speech, agitate politcally, think and do whatever you want ... contrary to COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIPS, dimwit.
@DamiaanVDW "the freedom to exploit and dominate the market -and thereby, the people."
Yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnn ... what do u mean by "exploit"? The level of income in capitalist countries? ... jep, has been always 100 times higher than in COMMUNIST SHITHOLES.
For any other sort of "exploitation" which is illegal you have LAWS that prohibit this, you blistering imbecile.
@DamiaanVDW "that largely governments buy (or campaign) their way into power"
Yeah, DIMWIT. They campaign ... they do not force ANYBODY. By campaigning they have to say we stand for this and that, we will do this and that, we wont do this and that ... so ultimately it is the vote that decides, blistering imbecile.
But with pleasure! Thanks to NEOLIBERAL CAPITALISTIC reforms in China, e.g., since the reforms of Deng XIaopiang against the will of hardline communists:
- the Chinese GDP and wages rose by the factor 65!!
- 1.3 bn. Chinese have enough FOOD on the table again, after 45 million STARVED under Mao 1958-62 alone!
- 450 mio. Chinese live in relative comfort and luxury nowardays
@utlegation "LOOK at what the U.S. has done to the Middle East "
Yeah, what have they don to the Middle East?? The American brought - or tried to, to be honest - a little bit of order and freedom to a terrorist-invested region that never was ruled anything differently than despotically.
Yeah, feel free to go in only of a country and try to distribute Bibles, or try to say sth against one of their regimes. Lets see if you survive that :-)
Or burn a flag of a country there, which is done in EUrope or teh USA a milion times. Let s see if you survive that :-=)
Ah, really? Lies?? And how many bus bombs exploded/are exploding in that region??? The figure is by far TOO HIGH that a liberal dimwit like you would be able to count it.
Ok, since you are such a blossoming intellectucal, feel free to explain by using ARGUMENTS how communism is possible
WITHOUT
1) DICTATORSHIPS, FORCE; VIOLENCE; but in FEEDOM
2) POVERTY; FAMINES; INEFFICIENCIES, but PROSPERITY.
I pay you € 1.000.000 if you can this ... and another € 100.000, if you are able to name JUST ONE EXAMPLE where communism/socialism/leftish polcies EVER WORKED.
I pay you € 1.000.000 if you can this ... and another € 100.000, if you are able to name JUST ONE EXAMPLE where communism/socialism/leftish polcies EVER WORKED.
R.I.P. Hans Heinz Holz
utlegation 2 months ago
@utlegation " SU - a medieval slavery country "
Ah, really, dimwit??
And what were European countries, the USA, all CAPITALIST countries before the 19th centuries???
"more than 90% literacy "
GREAT SUCCESS!! I I knew soiclaism would prevail!! Now I see why it was worth it to KILL 25 MILLION PEOPLE in the SU alone, install a BRUTAL DICTATORSHIP, a secret police, TERROR by the KGB, and abolish any sort of INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM and ending a NIGHTMARE out of POVERTY and MISERY!!
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
@joaquinveyron WTF RU babbling on about?
utlegation 2 months ago
@joaquinveyron I don't know whos comment you're responding to but it's not mine! Anyway, i'll give an answer your drivel.
Do you know the origins, aims and intentions of Communism? If you haven't, then I suggest that you read up on it. The aristocrats were taking the pish with the wealth, which wasn't created by them, whilst the country is starving! Something had to be done and so it was in 1917. Anyway, to cut a long story short, the measures which you demonise were needed.
utlegation 2 months ago
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@utlegation "Do you know the origins, aims and intentions of Communism?"
Dimwit, do you know the RESULTS; the CONSEQUENCES and MEANS of communism??? Then you should study history: POVERTY, DICTATORSHIP, FAMINES; IN-EFFICIENCY, TERROR and MURDER ... tahts all what you will get as a direct and logic consequence of marxism, you brain amputated monkey!
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
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@utlegation "the measures which you demonise were needed."
Yeah, sure. It was necessary to MURDER 120 million people during the 80 years of reign of communism. And for what??
For ruining many hundreds of million people's lives, for resulting in POVERTY; FAMINES and IN-EFFICIENCY.
Great success!!! great!! Hail to communism!!
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
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@utlegation "Something had to be done "
Of course, something had to be done to solve the problems people had in the 19th century. While communists only increased the misery and poverty for the people, capitalists indulged in the so called Industrial Revolution that EFFECTIVELY solved most of the most urgend problems of the workers and bettered life for everyone in the long run anyhow.
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
@joaquinveyron And it looks like its going to happen all over again on a global scale but this time, the people won't be fooled again! Capitalism had its chance and has FAILED! You talk about poverty, terror, freedom and misery? LOOK at Africa, LOOK at parts of Asia, LOOK at what the U.S. has done to the Middle East and many other countries in its relentless terror campaigns, all in the name of 'freedom' And the U.S. SUPPORTS brutal dictatorships! LOL! Give me a break!
utlegation 2 months ago
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@utlegation "Capitalism had its chance and has FAILED! "
Ah, really?? :-)
Dimwit, the only countries in mankind's history where democracy and relative high standard of living were achieved werre ... ah, right, you guess it right CAPITALISTIC ones, you brain amputated monkey!
Just compare
FRG vs GDR
WestEU vs Eastern bloc
USA vs SU
CHina today vs Mao-China
SKorea vs NKorea
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
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@utlegation "And the U.S. SUPPORTS brutal dictatorships"
Such as?? Ah, right, they got rid of
- the dictator Saddam Hussein
- they freed South Korea from NKorean communist aggressors. Thanks to the US, the S Koreans nowadays enjoy CAPITALISTIC FREEDOM and PROSPERITY, while NKoreans suffer endlessly in a COMMUNIST CONCENTRATION CAMP called NKorea
- without the US Western EUrope would have become a COMMUNIST SHITHOLE that Eastern Europe had been.
Next patient please.
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
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utlegation 2 months ago
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@joaquinveyron Not just Saddam. You seem to forget that MOST dictators are supported by the U.S. Reasons? Someone to deal with in order to aquire resources on the cheap and to weaken those countries perceived as a 'threat' ie democracy ONLY when it suits the U.S. eg Saudi Arabia. You REALLY have a lot to learn! Or perhaps youre just too thick! ;)
utlegation 2 months ago
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@utlegation "LOOK at Africa,"
Yeah, what about Africa?? Where do you see the principles of capitalism, i.e. freedom of the individual, private property, order and peace at play?? Half of Africa was socialistic, by the way, and failed catastrophically.
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
@joaquinveyron Did you know that israel gets more U.S. aid than all of Africa put together? If you think thats morally right, you really do have issues. Im done with talking with you. You have really proved yourself to be one hell of an imbecile!
utlegation 2 months ago
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@utlegation "Did you know that israel gets more U.S. aid than all of Africa put together? "
Yaaaaaawwn ... dimwit, can you get at least something right??? The economic aid the US paid to Israel is 52 mio. USD. The amount Kenya receives alone is around 940 mio. USD. The West Banks/Gaza 1,045 mio. USD.
What kind of drugs are you using?? Really??
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
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@utlegation "Im done with talking with you"
Of course, you are, because you never have/had ARGUMENTS/FACTS. But this is always the case with dumb, uneducated liberals like you. They chicken out when it comes to ARGUMENTS.
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
@utlegation " If you think thats morally right"
So according a liberal dimwit like you it is immoral to give aid to a country??? Aha, interesting. What has this to do with the COMPLETE and UTTER FAILURE of COMMUNISM anyhow???!
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
@joaquinveyron YOU'RE VERY CONFUSED! So you fascist moron, what have you got to say about the COMPLETE and UTTER FAILURE of CAPITALISM anyhow???!
utlegation 1 month ago
@utlegation Dimwit, ok, here we go again ... since a leftist DIMWIT like you is incapable of naming just ONE EXAMPLE where communism worked, you try to have a go on capitalism, well you try it ... in vain :-)
You call it an "utter failure of capitalism" when capitalism led in most of the case to PROSPERITY; FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY???
joaquinveyron 1 month ago
@joaquinveyron 1. 'leftist dimwit' - don't think i've ever witnessed such unabashed political discrimination.
2. the failure of communism in the past say nothing with regard to future attempts at an egalitarian society, revisionist-socialism exists by the way. The LIBERTARIAN LEFT has never been given a genuine shot at political hegemony (bar a brief spell in Spain) -your qualms lie with authoritarianism, not leftism.
DamiaanVDW 3 days ago
@DamiaanVDW "the failure of communism in the past say nothing with regard to future attempts at an egalitarian society"
WHAT? The failure of any socialism in the future will be even BIGGER??? The failure of LEFTIST DIMWITS/COMMUNIST LOSERS up to now is hard to match :-)
joaquinveyron 3 days ago
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@DamiaanVDW "your qualms lie with authoritarianism, not leftism."
DIMWIT, again i pay you 1 MILLION of my CAPITALISTIC euros if you brain amputated douche are able to explain how it is possible to put leftists "ideas" such as egalitarianism (in terms of OUTCOME) into practice WITHOUT authoritarianism/totalitarianism, you blistering imbecile.
joaquinveyron 3 days ago
@joaquinveyron 3a. I'll grant you Prosperity. 3b. Democracy in capitalist economies is enormously distorted by concentrated capital, research (in depth) the system of election in America and you'll find that largely governments buy (or campaign) their way into power.
3c. I'll grant you Freedom if you acknowledge that it is POSITIVE FREEDOM - market freedom, the freedom to exploit and dominate the market -and thereby, the people.
there's a "go at capitalism" - & do some research.
DamiaanVDW 3 days ago
@DamiaanVDW "3a. I'll grant you Prosperity."
HAHAHAHAHA
Yeah, sure, like all LEFTIST DIMIWTS in the past did ... and all people got was POVERTY; MISERY and FAMINES: Great success!! :-)
joaquinveyron 3 days ago
@DamiaanVDW "3b. Democracy in capitalist economies is enormously distorted by concentrated capital"
Really, DIMWIT. Is that so? :-)
Whatever this might true or not, obviously you can vote, make use of your freedom of speech, agitate politcally, think and do whatever you want ... contrary to COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIPS, dimwit.
joaquinveyron 3 days ago
@DamiaanVDW "the freedom to exploit and dominate the market -and thereby, the people."
Yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnn ... what do u mean by "exploit"? The level of income in capitalist countries? ... jep, has been always 100 times higher than in COMMUNIST SHITHOLES.
For any other sort of "exploitation" which is illegal you have LAWS that prohibit this, you blistering imbecile.
joaquinveyron 3 days ago
@DamiaanVDW "& do some research."
Ah, really, DIMWIT?? Should I? And whwere exactly? Which point of what I said is NOT accurate,.
Feell free to name me JUST ONE example where communism did NOT END in a ABSOLUTE SHITHOLE:
joaquinveyron 3 days ago
@DamiaanVDW "that largely governments buy (or campaign) their way into power"
Yeah, DIMWIT. They campaign ... they do not force ANYBODY. By campaigning they have to say we stand for this and that, we will do this and that, we wont do this and that ... so ultimately it is the vote that decides, blistering imbecile.
joaquinveyron 3 days ago
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@utlegation "LOOK at parts of Asia"
But with pleasure! Thanks to NEOLIBERAL CAPITALISTIC reforms in China, e.g., since the reforms of Deng XIaopiang against the will of hardline communists:
- the Chinese GDP and wages rose by the factor 65!!
- 1.3 bn. Chinese have enough FOOD on the table again, after 45 million STARVED under Mao 1958-62 alone!
- 450 mio. Chinese live in relative comfort and luxury nowardays
Man, capitalism is really soooo evil. :-) :-)
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
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@utlegation "LOOK at what the U.S. has done to the Middle East "
Yeah, what have they don to the Middle East?? The American brought - or tried to, to be honest - a little bit of order and freedom to a terrorist-invested region that never was ruled anything differently than despotically.
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
@joaquinveyron Terrorist region? BOLLOCKS! You believe in all the lies! Youre sad, gullible and pathetic!
utlegation 2 months ago
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@utlegation "Terrorist region? BOLLOCKS! "
Yeah, feel free to go in only of a country and try to distribute Bibles, or try to say sth against one of their regimes. Lets see if you survive that :-)
Or burn a flag of a country there, which is done in EUrope or teh USA a milion times. Let s see if you survive that :-=)
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
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@utlegation "You believe in all the lies! "
Ah, really? Lies?? And how many bus bombs exploded/are exploding in that region??? The figure is by far TOO HIGH that a liberal dimwit like you would be able to count it.
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
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utlegation 2 months ago
Wir werden dich sehr vermissen!
Hans Heinz Presente!
DKPqueer 2 months ago
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@DKPqueer " then when cornered, spew forth venomous "
Hahahahhaah, when did this happen??
Ok, let us see your "intellectual capabilities" on those questions:
1) Name just ONE example where communism was SUCCESSFUL
2) Explain how communism can be realised WITHOUT resulting in a NIGHTMARE of POVERTY, TERROR, DICTATORSHIPS, FAMINES, IN-EFFICIENCIES.
I am ready to pay you 100,000 of my CAPITALISTIC EUROS, if you can :-)
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
12-12-2011.Ha muerto Hans Heinz Holz.
Lamentamos la pérdida.
3946Natasha 2 months ago
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@3946NatashaHahahah, you really use the word "intellectual" here?? :-)
Ok, since you are such a blossoming intellectucal, feel free to explain by using ARGUMENTS how communism is possible
WITHOUT
1) DICTATORSHIPS, FORCE; VIOLENCE; but in FEEDOM
2) POVERTY; FAMINES; INEFFICIENCIES, but PROSPERITY.
I pay you € 1.000.000 if you can this ... and another € 100.000, if you are able to name JUST ONE EXAMPLE where communism/socialism/leftish polcies EVER WORKED.
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
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@3946Natasha "Lamentamos la pérdida."
Que perdida?
joaquinveyron 2 months ago
@perther3 "Avant-garde" (meaning "vanguard")
samsonlovesyou 4 months ago
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@samsonlovesyou Hahahah, you really use the word "intellectual" here?? :-)
Ok, since you are such a blossoming intellectucal, feel free to explain by using ARGUMENTS how communism is possible
WITHOUT
1) DICTATORSHIPS, FORCE; VIOLENCE; but in FEEDOM
2) POVERTY; FAMINES; INEFFICIENCIES, but PROSPERITY.
I pay you € 1.000.000 if you can this ... and another € 100.000, if you are able to name JUST ONE EXAMPLE where communism/socialism/leftish polcies EVER WORKED.
joaquinveyron 2 months ago