@DeadZone871 Gma 4500mhd is 3x much crapper than ion,for gaming no way,for HD playback it struggle and I cant open other app,I got ion notebook,it can run COD4 and HD video at the same time.Besides gma took your ram which make more slower.
iim pretty sure the GPU is only 256mb of memory..took forever to find that info out...netbook are gonna be sweet in anohter 2yrs...but tablets will be right on there ass...esp now intel is gonna make cpu's for them...
Intel is not for gaming, gaming cards don't need a compatibility list like their gpus do. I had a x3100 and it used to lag in counter strike 1.6. For the 4500mhd intel promised a 3 times faster gpu, but 3 x 0 = 0.
If they make them cheaper, i'll buy a netbook just to play my favourite games (from doom3, hl2, freelancer, assasinscreed) I don't play many demanding games, but i want something better than the slideshow 945GMA showed me until now.
@Usul573 According to pcgamingcorner's test (the first I've found on google) , the avg. fps is around ~15 in most games which is unplayable, 30-40fps would be perfect for me, in fact I'm happy with 25-30 too, so I'll stick with my ION netbook, which can handle these around 25-30 ( especially with overclocked CPU ).
@Xmisterhu Yeah the 4500MHD wasn't the best. Still, it was an improvement. The newest ones are way better for video and can be around twice as good at games. Still not for a serious gamer though.
got a current gen netbook i am waiting for atom ion 2 to be honest,as it will be even more quicker!,and as the ion 1 can almost,Almost it was so painfully close to doing it, run crysis,other big games,etc ( in the right way) should (fingers crossed:P) run it.
I really would like that Nvidia also focused his products for being compatible with linux operating systems, making the code for that system fully open source. That way I would not doubt to buy an EEPC with ION.
What makes you say that they don't? I think Nvidia's linux' support is far better than Ati's. I'm considering a netbook based on the ION myself. And ofcourse I want to run linux on it. Is there a reason I shouldn't? I've been running Nvidia linux-drivers on my desktop for over 5 years, with no mentionable problems...
Don't take my comment as a fight between Ati or Nvidia. I really like Nvidia, but in the case of drivers, they tend to make them proprietary and not open source, thing that sometimes complicates the use of drivers for certain linux distributions. Anyway I am looking forward to find an "IONized" EEPC that is very low consuming and has a long lasting battery in order to make some programming there. But at the moment I'll keep watching.
I also didn't comment as a fight between Ati or Nvidia. I ust said that I have good experiences with nvida-drivers on Linux. That's also the reason I went for Nvidia-cards for my desktop. The drivers are indeed closed. Are the Ati-drivers open-source?
I use to have a Matrox-card on my work computer (Debian). Also proprietary drivers. I don't really care about the drivers being proprietary or open source. I don't feel the need to adjust anything (wouldn't know how either).
Anyway, just to be short: About a year ago, everyone in my environment said that for Linux, nvidia had better support for their cards than Ati. Ati just came around being on nvidia's level on windows-systems. And this because Ati had the better product and were forced stop slacking.
Hahaha. Again asking me for ATI? I know nothing about ATI drivers, and at the moment I have not interest. I have always bought nvidia cards, and I like them, so at the moment I'll keep with them. I just would like that nvidia would be more friendly with the open source comunity. Now I like Nvidia. If they released things under some kind of GPL license, then I would not like Nvidia, I would LOVE Nvidia.
Aha, in that way. Well, I think you can wait a long time for that, since Nvidia can never guarantee that your card remains at 100% if they allow people to play around with the drivers. It would be like stating in the warranty-terms that overclocking is allowed. The general user will never be able to come further than just tweaking the drivers like was done in the Omega-releases.
Ahaha now i got a nForce 750a based chipset motherboard by MSI, nVidia 9400GT 1gb about to move up to 9600GSO in dual SLI, gonna buy a Cooler Master case nVidia edition what else is needed =D (except psu ram n hdd)
Does anyone know which laptops (or nettops) come with the ion GPU. I prefer one with at least the 9400m gt but if an integrated card can do this I'm not complaining.
ion is the name of the graphics chipset. nowdays and and future applications can be enabled to use the nivida ion to make things run better. im so wanting to one one now,but id like it in the upcoming netbooks that will have the ion platform in them,so excited haha.ill prob have spend the money on a vid cam :(
It's separate from the CPU and the main GPU. It's adds shaders and does something with some new technology to make 1080p possible. It adds enough shaders to make it able to play these games.
Nah, be carefull with what you say out loud. They've been verry quiet for some time now, i wouldnt be surprised if they are cooking something good in their top secret underground labs. Dont forget how everyone thought AMD was done for a fews years ago and then suddenly they came out with the athlon which was a lot better than the intels at that time.
Also keep in mind they bought ATI, so they are defenetly cooking something ;)
How can someone compare two setups with different hardware let alone different software? And windows 7 actually looks like vista........tsk tsk look at the taskbar. LOL :D
lol... what's a appoimt of playing cod 4 mw if it's lagging as hell, sure u can run it but there was barely 20 fps whown there, it's unplayable, what's a point oO
PFF PFF PFF doesnt matter about the price.. you said a laptop with a 9400GM is one of the best in the world.. hHAHAHAHA alienware KILLS it.. you can upgrade from alienwares website to longer battery you fucking idiot..
research.. research.. more research.. padawan cunt
if i wasnt how do you think i know so much more than you stupid people.. idiot it just makes me soo pissed when people are ignorant and think they are the kingshit with computers...
@0mfgitzBiafor3 The typical "I know everything about computers(btw. do you know for example what iptables is, or function overload, or L2 cache, etc?), and my father buys everything for me, so I don't care about money" kid.
Yes, you could upgrade the battery, and your power bill, will be "upgraded" too(Sorry, you don't care, you don't pay for it).
And by the way, I think the alienware is soooooo ugly...I can't even watch it for more than 10 seconds..
Well he said COD4 was lagging so I merely said that it was ONLY a 9400m. A 9400m is a great GPU for ultra portables no doubt and still decent for regular laptops.
omg they compare a 945g with ion ?????
why they don't compare it to 4500mhd, it 3x better than ion.
DeadZone871 1 year ago
@DeadZone871 Gma 4500mhd is 3x much crapper than ion,for gaming no way,for HD playback it struggle and I cant open other app,I got ion notebook,it can run COD4 and HD video at the same time.Besides gma took your ram which make more slower.
allofyousuckla 11 months ago
iim pretty sure the GPU is only 256mb of memory..took forever to find that info out...netbook are gonna be sweet in anohter 2yrs...but tablets will be right on there ass...esp now intel is gonna make cpu's for them...
trufiend138 1 year ago
1080p youtube still lags tho???????????
anil2 1 year ago
"The way it's meant to be played" is definitely not on a netbook anywho...
teatime90 1 year ago
@teatime90
Forget it, looks choppy.
Usul573 1 year ago
Intel is not for gaming, gaming cards don't need a compatibility list like their gpus do. I had a x3100 and it used to lag in counter strike 1.6. For the 4500mhd intel promised a 3 times faster gpu, but 3 x 0 = 0.
MyMisteryMe 1 year ago
Intel is not for gaming, gaming cards don't need a compatibility list like their gpus do. I had a x3100 and it used to lag in counter strike 1.6.
MyMisteryMe 1 year ago
all we need is a quad core atom 2.8 or a tripple core 3.2 atom with an ion 3 fermi (128sp + dx11) on the 28/32nm fab and we'l be sorted. :p
prankmypants 2 years ago
@prankmypants yes and the battery would last about 30 minutes
Lineriderrocks123 2 years ago 2
If they make them cheaper, i'll buy a netbook just to play my favourite games (from doom3, hl2, freelancer, assasinscreed) I don't play many demanding games, but i want something better than the slideshow 945GMA showed me until now.
Tudorgeable 2 years ago
GMA 950?
I'm surprised you could even get some of those running on that.
The GMA HD could play those games.
Usul573 2 years ago
@Usul573 With 5 fps definitely
Xmisterhu 1 year ago
@Xmisterhu
Nah, the best GMA HD can do around 30 or 40 FPS for a lot of games, Batman, Dragon Age Origins.
Still not a good idea for serious gaming of course.
Usul573 1 year ago
@Usul573 According to pcgamingcorner's test (the first I've found on google) , the avg. fps is around ~15 in most games which is unplayable, 30-40fps would be perfect for me, in fact I'm happy with 25-30 too, so I'll stick with my ION netbook, which can handle these around 25-30 ( especially with overclocked CPU ).
Xmisterhu 1 year ago
@Xmisterhu Oh do you mean the GMA 500? Or the GMA 4500MHD benchmark?
The latest one called the GMA HD is better, still not that great though. It's the one integrated into the CPU.
Usul573 1 year ago
@Usul573 No, I mean the 4500MHD. You can see it on notebookcheck[dot]net gpu comparison too, only a really few games could reach 30 fps with that.
Xmisterhu 1 year ago
@Xmisterhu Yeah the 4500MHD wasn't the best. Still, it was an improvement. The newest ones are way better for video and can be around twice as good at games. Still not for a serious gamer though.
Usul573 1 year ago
@Usul573 Yeah, I see, the new ones are not so far from the ION(9400M), which is really good from an Intel GPU. But still, there is space to evolve.
Xmisterhu 1 year ago
@Xmisterhu
Always more work to be done.
Usul573 1 year ago
got a current gen netbook i am waiting for atom ion 2 to be honest,as it will be even more quicker!,and as the ion 1 can almost,Almost it was so painfully close to doing it, run crysis,other big games,etc ( in the right way) should (fingers crossed:P) run it.
n1hmrd 2 years ago
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domthebomb5 2 years ago
I really would like that Nvidia also focused his products for being compatible with linux operating systems, making the code for that system fully open source. That way I would not doubt to buy an EEPC with ION.
yakumoklesk 2 years ago
What makes you say that they don't? I think Nvidia's linux' support is far better than Ati's. I'm considering a netbook based on the ION myself. And ofcourse I want to run linux on it. Is there a reason I shouldn't? I've been running Nvidia linux-drivers on my desktop for over 5 years, with no mentionable problems...
kenjuma 2 years ago
@kenjuma
Don't take my comment as a fight between Ati or Nvidia. I really like Nvidia, but in the case of drivers, they tend to make them proprietary and not open source, thing that sometimes complicates the use of drivers for certain linux distributions. Anyway I am looking forward to find an "IONized" EEPC that is very low consuming and has a long lasting battery in order to make some programming there. But at the moment I'll keep watching.
yakumoklesk 2 years ago
I also didn't comment as a fight between Ati or Nvidia. I ust said that I have good experiences with nvida-drivers on Linux. That's also the reason I went for Nvidia-cards for my desktop. The drivers are indeed closed. Are the Ati-drivers open-source?
I use to have a Matrox-card on my work computer (Debian). Also proprietary drivers. I don't really care about the drivers being proprietary or open source. I don't feel the need to adjust anything (wouldn't know how either).
kenjuma 2 years ago
Anyway, just to be short: About a year ago, everyone in my environment said that for Linux, nvidia had better support for their cards than Ati. Ati just came around being on nvidia's level on windows-systems. And this because Ati had the better product and were forced stop slacking.
kenjuma 2 years ago
Hahaha. Again asking me for ATI? I know nothing about ATI drivers, and at the moment I have not interest. I have always bought nvidia cards, and I like them, so at the moment I'll keep with them. I just would like that nvidia would be more friendly with the open source comunity. Now I like Nvidia. If they released things under some kind of GPL license, then I would not like Nvidia, I would LOVE Nvidia.
yakumoklesk 2 years ago
Aha, in that way. Well, I think you can wait a long time for that, since Nvidia can never guarantee that your card remains at 100% if they allow people to play around with the drivers. It would be like stating in the warranty-terms that overclocking is allowed. The general user will never be able to come further than just tweaking the drivers like was done in the Omega-releases.
kenjuma 2 years ago
Ahaha now i got a nForce 750a based chipset motherboard by MSI, nVidia 9400GT 1gb about to move up to 9600GSO in dual SLI, gonna buy a Cooler Master case nVidia edition what else is needed =D (except psu ram n hdd)
Zillerz3 2 years ago
ITS STUNNING!! I NEED IT! ITS EVERYTHING!!
But.. theres no Netbook with Nvidia ION.
peterinfamilyguy 2 years ago
i'm holding one right now.. HP MINI 311
shogunvitto 2 years ago
FUCK you nvidia! integrated graphick CAN run cod4 ~gma x3100,x4500
halfpol 2 years ago
Not on a netbook it can't.
tippyzero1 2 years ago
Those are really good netbooks. Way better than the rest.
wildman00sax 2 years ago
Ya, but soon will be dual atom right? Selling mine right now to update it ^^
Is there anyway to install 3gb ram into it?
shogunvitto 2 years ago
The ASUS Eee PC™ 1201N has the dual core Atom and Nvidia's ION.
There is one empty RAM slot that can hold 2GB of DDR3 laptop memory.
wildman00sax 2 years ago
lol crashed
mortallove12 2 years ago
Does anyone know which laptops (or nettops) come with the ion GPU. I prefer one with at least the 9400m gt but if an integrated card can do this I'm not complaining.
VagabonNinja 2 years ago
yes
the point of view mobii ion pc and netbook =)
Bazille13 2 years ago
i dont get it is ION a GRAPHICS Processor the thing inside the graphics card or a CPU processor? im so comfused
Zillerz3 2 years ago
ion is the name of the graphics chipset. nowdays and and future applications can be enabled to use the nivida ion to make things run better. im so wanting to one one now,but id like it in the upcoming netbooks that will have the ion platform in them,so excited haha.ill prob have spend the money on a vid cam :(
ooHARDWAREoo 2 years ago
It's separate from the CPU and the main GPU. It's adds shaders and does something with some new technology to make 1080p possible. It adds enough shaders to make it able to play these games.
VagabonNinja 2 years ago
cod 4 is not a good example for this it would get unplayable framerates but source games would be fun
flipidy94 2 years ago
Someone please destroy all of the Atom CPUs in the world and replace them with ULV Core2Solo.
HWGuyEG 2 years ago
that was clearly vista wow expected better from nvidia
agoniesfury 2 years ago
why would any1 want to play game on an Atom processor?
even though that's so cool that they actually made it possible
qhoa1385 2 years ago 2
pretty cool :)
TrinityAlex 2 years ago
AMD's getting their asses handed to them now
Kevinmaxtor 2 years ago
Nah, be carefull with what you say out loud. They've been verry quiet for some time now, i wouldnt be surprised if they are cooking something good in their top secret underground labs. Dont forget how everyone thought AMD was done for a fews years ago and then suddenly they came out with the athlon which was a lot better than the intels at that time.
Also keep in mind they bought ATI, so they are defenetly cooking something ;)
Capeau 2 years ago
That's very powerful.
background001 2 years ago
How can someone compare two setups with different hardware let alone different software? And windows 7 actually looks like vista........tsk tsk look at the taskbar. LOL :D
Jabid21 2 years ago
the competition didnt even have a gpu nigga this shit is fake
kingdong4 2 years ago
lol... what's a appoimt of playing cod 4 mw if it's lagging as hell, sure u can run it but there was barely 20 fps whown there, it's unplayable, what's a point oO
iScream90 2 years ago
xsonicbladex
your a little off.
Alienware has GTX280's in SLi in there laptops.
Xigmatek 2 years ago
Call of Duty 4 was lagging hardcore.
holidayspecialoo 2 years ago
Its only a 9400m GPU.
levi094 2 years ago
ONLY? This is one of the best laptop and ultra portable GPUs in the world. I play crysis with medium settings on that thing.
xsonicbladex 2 years ago
alienware are way better... research alil more about computers buddy... alienware can fit 2 4890s in a laptop dumb fuck
0mfgitzBiafor3 2 years ago
Notice the size, weight, price and battery life "dumb fuck".
xsonicbladex 2 years ago
PFF PFF PFF doesnt matter about the price.. you said a laptop with a 9400GM is one of the best in the world.. hHAHAHAHA alienware KILLS it.. you can upgrade from alienwares website to longer battery you fucking idiot..
research.. research.. more research.. padawan cunt
0mfgitzBiafor3 2 years ago
You're not older than 12, are you ?
aiol0s 2 years ago 2
if i wasnt how do you think i know so much more than you stupid people.. idiot it just makes me soo pissed when people are ignorant and think they are the kingshit with computers...
0mfgitzBiafor3 2 years ago
Well, you don't seem to have a brain older than 12 years old...
Especially that comment about knowing so much more. Clearly an ignorant kid.
aiol0s 2 years ago
Well you must have a 12 year old brain then. That comment about knowing "so much more" proves it.
aiol0s 2 years ago
kk faggot whatever you say kingshit
0mfgitzBiafor3 2 years ago
@0mfgitzBiafor3 The typical "I know everything about computers(btw. do you know for example what iptables is, or function overload, or L2 cache, etc?), and my father buys everything for me, so I don't care about money" kid.
Yes, you could upgrade the battery, and your power bill, will be "upgraded" too(Sorry, you don't care, you don't pay for it).
And by the way, I think the alienware is soooooo ugly...I can't even watch it for more than 10 seconds..
Xmisterhu 1 year ago
@Xmisterhu kk rich fucking soc. did your dad also teach you how to earn money? fucking shit fuck.
0mfgitzBiafor3 1 year ago
Have you noticed the price, weight, size battery life and portability?
xsonicbladex 2 years ago
alienware is made by dell and we all no dell sucks burn baby burn if you catch my drift lol
SAGKFCASBOST1CSX 2 years ago
alienware is owned by dell. its a seperate company with seperate factorys.
Urban509 2 years ago
Well he said COD4 was lagging so I merely said that it was ONLY a 9400m. A 9400m is a great GPU for ultra portables no doubt and still decent for regular laptops.
levi094 2 years ago
Alienwares are not normal laptops, the 9400M are good for normal non gamer laptops, even for moderate gaming it's fine, and for the price... WOW.
xsonicbladex 2 years ago
Finally! I've been waiting for a comparison video for a long time!
moffe247 2 years ago
NV4Life!!
LETHLSS 2 years ago
Nvidia just do the next GPU's Directx 10.1 Compatible, because ATI already have it, and there is a huge fps more with 10.1 ...
AGSTonny 2 years ago
1. There isn't a "huge" performance gain. It is about 10% over DX10, depending on setup/game
2. Nvidia are already making DX10.1 mobile chips and are set to make 10.1 dektop cards in Q3 this year
3. There are very few games that support it
4. DX10, along with DX10.1 sucks anyway. Horrible fps hit for barely noticable effect
5. DX11 will be out in a few months, there will be little point of even buying a 10.1 card when the API will start to become outdated so shortly
operationturkey 2 years ago
OMG you are really a pro on what hardware is :D
AGSTonny 2 years ago
awesome :D hope to get a notebook with ion soon
xKatz90 2 years ago