Rose may be kind of right here about Freedman. The tone of the article where he wrote about a military junta in Iraq is actually descriptive and carries an implication of cynicism. He wasn't making policy prescriptions. On the other hand, Freedman did NOT prescribe any policies he DID support, so he EFFECTIVELY made propaganda for establishing a military junta, presenting this as being the only option real for the US, from a purely rational point of view.
Hey Charlie, here is how it works; you ask the question, then shut the fuck up while the answer is given. Or, I have a better idea, just interview yourself you fucking blowhard.
Charlie, I appreciate you have Naom Chomsky as a guest, but for goodness sake stop getting agitated, be quiet, and learn something from a man much more knowledgeable than yourself. Thanks you.
thanks. Rose must have Chomsky on again. Write the Charlie Rose site if you care. The comments underneath this video on his site are very interesting.
@drydust999 Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
Are you sure you know the definition of fascism? It doesn't sound like it.
@drydust999 "I would like to see people energerized, participating, thinking for themselves, not subordinating themselves to systems of discipline and propaganda."
Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. (I think you need to revisit your definition)
@jiggity99 The funny part is that telling people to think for themselves is telling them how to think, and then telling them to not submit to a power structure is itself a form of authoritarianism—and propaganda.
@drydust999 So you're saying you want people to both not think for themselves and to subordinate themselves to systems of discipline. That's a recipe that has certainly worked well throughout history. Totalitarian: exercising "control over the freedom", will, or thought of others; authoritarian; autocratic. There's nothing "totalitarian" about his words. No one/Nothing's controlling my right to agree or disagree with his message.
@jiggity99 I'm just noticing his totalitarian silliness. Of course you have the right to subscribe to it and pretend it's freedom.
It's simply impossible to be outside power structures which limit you in a way or another; the notion of "freedom" itself is a form of imposition (sometimes even institutional). Chomsky actually manipulates you, willingly or not, into thinking his discourse defines freedom, which is a subtle act of intellectual and moral domination.
@drydust999 You'd have a point if it weren't for the fact that he travels around the world and talks to people about their grievances and passes on their wants are cares to the rest of us in his lectures.
Is Rose interviewing Chomsky or is it the other way around? I've never seen an interviewer so frequently interrupt the subject. It's quite frustrating to witness.
Did he really ask Chomsky, "How come you know so much about everything?"
billaround 1 week ago
christ could this be any quieter got all my volumes up full blast and still struggling to hear this mumbling bastard
TheJooberjones 1 month ago
Rose may be kind of right here about Freedman. The tone of the article where he wrote about a military junta in Iraq is actually descriptive and carries an implication of cynicism. He wasn't making policy prescriptions. On the other hand, Freedman did NOT prescribe any policies he DID support, so he EFFECTIVELY made propaganda for establishing a military junta, presenting this as being the only option real for the US, from a purely rational point of view.
Ollie9402 1 month ago
I kinda wanted to know what Chomsky's big language question was that he was leading up to.
ZombiBuddy 1 month ago
Hey Charlie, here is how it works; you ask the question, then shut the fuck up while the answer is given. Or, I have a better idea, just interview yourself you fucking blowhard.
abortfailure7646 1 month ago
i really dont like rose after this interview.
gobuddyboy 2 months ago
rose needs to shut the hell up and listen. He is not even trying to understand chomsky
gobuddyboy 2 months ago
Charlie Rose- You get more type A every year and amazingly, for all the interviews you have done, you have learned so little.
aaaaaaajer 5 months ago 4
Charlie, I appreciate you have Naom Chomsky as a guest, but for goodness sake stop getting agitated, be quiet, and learn something from a man much more knowledgeable than yourself. Thanks you.
dynesman 5 months ago 3
@dynesman @34:30, definitely, Rose needs to shut up.
tph2010 1 day ago
thanks. Rose must have Chomsky on again. Write the Charlie Rose site if you care. The comments underneath this video on his site are very interesting.
Luke43168 9 months ago
The face and mouth of modern fascism. Nice.
drydust999 9 months ago
@drydust999 Hitler? Stalin? I agree
jiggity99 8 months ago
@drydust999 Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
Are you sure you know the definition of fascism? It doesn't sound like it.
jiggity99 8 months ago
@drydust999 "I would like to see people energerized, participating, thinking for themselves, not subordinating themselves to systems of discipline and propaganda."
Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. (I think you need to revisit your definition)
jiggity99 8 months ago
@jiggity99 The funny part is that telling people to think for themselves is telling them how to think, and then telling them to not submit to a power structure is itself a form of authoritarianism—and propaganda.
—>"Anti-totalitarian" totalitarianism. Paradoxical hey.
drydust999 8 months ago
@drydust999 So you're saying you want people to both not think for themselves and to subordinate themselves to systems of discipline. That's a recipe that has certainly worked well throughout history. Totalitarian: exercising "control over the freedom", will, or thought of others; authoritarian; autocratic. There's nothing "totalitarian" about his words. No one/Nothing's controlling my right to agree or disagree with his message.
jiggity99 8 months ago
@jiggity99 I'm just noticing his totalitarian silliness. Of course you have the right to subscribe to it and pretend it's freedom.
It's simply impossible to be outside power structures which limit you in a way or another; the notion of "freedom" itself is a form of imposition (sometimes even institutional). Chomsky actually manipulates you, willingly or not, into thinking his discourse defines freedom, which is a subtle act of intellectual and moral domination.
"Choose your poison" as they say.
drydust999 8 months ago
@drydust999 You'd have a point if it weren't for the fact that he travels around the world and talks to people about their grievances and passes on their wants are cares to the rest of us in his lectures.
blockhart 7 months ago
@blockhart He good, fundamentally good. why not after all—apart from the fact that he a terrorist, hating America.
drydust999 7 months ago
@jiggity99 Ok. Then I choose Noam Chomsky's "subtle act of intellectual and moral domination." The "poison" has been chosen.
jiggity99 8 months ago
Is Rose interviewing Chomsky or is it the other way around? I've never seen an interviewer so frequently interrupt the subject. It's quite frustrating to witness.
pleaslucian 9 months ago 2
This interview is from 2003.
nmandarin 10 months ago
@nmandarin Appreciate the correction!
pink0f 10 months ago
Time flies: this was half a decade ago now.
wonderfulwhippet123 10 months ago 2