Melee has way more depth than brawl. There's wavedashing and dash dancing which give players so much more control of their characters. Theres tech chasing. Then there’s the stuff that brawl has like spacing, stage control, and DI which may be much more apparent in brawl, but are at least just as important in Melee. Melee has more stuff/depth which is why it’s by far the best smash game. P.S. If u prefer 64 for it's combos that's understandable :) and Brawl should be for casual play only.
in SSBB you have to react better because hitstun is less, -- more skillful?
They are all different games and they are going to be. They didn't intend to make Brawl a 'Melee 2'. If you want to go play melee play melee, but brawl does have depth and skill, its just people seem to give up on it instantly which is bias and unfair
@RangerFrogLord it has a different kind of metagame but it's so slow and campy. That's why it's considered less skillful. I've played the game and its partially true but when you get to high level play its really hard to get a hit with as many defense options and lack of hitstun. It can be near as skillful as melee but it just gets boring with all the spacing you have to do. In melee it's fun because you can plan a whooping you don't have to wait to get another hit and you can combo.
@kyoko277 You don't know anything about ssbm on yt... do you? The audio is from a different video where a rare and awesome (although I agree wasn't THAT epic) combo happened, and I don't understand either why they were so loud but I guess it was just for fun :P
@zweihand Bro a wombo combo is a zero to death combo in rapid success. Onlt the original wombo combo included partners and that wasnt even the terms origin. Stay frosty.
@afroliciousification Really? I always thought it had to be a juggle between two teammates. Kind of what my friends and I would do in Guardian Heroes on the Saturn... keep juggling enemies for minutes after they were dead. (you could keep milking EXP that way as long as they didn't touch the ground/ fade out) Thanks for the info, brotato.
god damn i wish casual fags would shut up about tourney fags and tourney fags would shut up about casual fags. and i wish brawlers would just shut the fuck up, it's not even a fucking brawl video. jesus christ. i don't even play the damn game, and i bet i know more about either game then any of you scrub fags.
this is kinda retarded... they start screaming when he lands 2 hits in a row. Maybe after the whole combo, but reawlly 4 hits and OH OHO HO HO HO HO HOH OHH OHO H HOORGASM?
If your going to complain about how bad brawl is why don't you just go back to super smash bros 64? it has even more of what you guys seem to like than mele does >.<
@NorwegishGuys ... Nope. A lot of people have cited sources and given legitimate reasoning why Melee is superior. All you've done is insist that Brawl doesn't suck, that it's just different.
History class and sex are different too, aren't they? But no, history class doesn't suck in comparison. By your logic, at least.
@NorwegishGuys Tripping. Lack of competition. Blatant character imbalance to the point that some characters are almost gimmicky. Poor stage design. General community. Incredible latency during network play, so much so that network play can't even be considered an asset. The lack of amazing occurrences outside of matches with items, where character imbalance becomes even more blatant. Lack of a competitive scene.
SSBM is better as a competive game,but I think SSBB is more fun to play o:
In SSBB you can save matches and take photos while playing live instead of playing only in one certain mode to do it. Also, SSBB got more modes, and I think BtT and HRC is way more fun to play than in SSBM. You're right about that Brawl isn't balanced at all, but the most tourney matches I see at YouTube in SSBM someone is either using Falco,Shiek,Marth orFox,Which proves that SSBM isn't so much better.
@TheSuperSmashBrother please tell me what you mean by "lack of amazing occurrences outside of matches with items" because it sounds like you're saying cool or amazing things only happen when items are on... which in my opinion, is absolutely wrong. Things such as the battle between ally and m2k from apex (i believe) are examples of amazing, cool, or epic occurrences or matches.
Shit like this or the real Wombo Combo virtually never happens in Brawl because I can mash air dodge to get out of way too many strings. I'm not saying amazing stuff never ever happens in Brawl. I'm just saying it's few and far between.
@TheSuperSmashBrother yeah, ok, i was thinking you said cool stuff never happens, but i agree with you, stuff rarely happens in brawl that is just plain awesome!
Metaknight isn't the reason brawl is gay. Brawl being developed to have less of a competitive edge is the reason brawl is a lesser game. Read the sakurai interviews. If you disagree try explaining how tripping makes any sense to a display of skill.
@shaikuzy lol I can see you never played Brawl. "MK" doesnt mean you win, you still have to be good at the character you play. Anyone that thinks Brawl doesnt require skill never played it or sucked at is and is just being a crybaby
@ProtoDemn MK is just fast as hell,priority thats like bs,has good recovery moves and good killing moves. Reason why he is top tier and why Brawl is like broken as hell.
@shaikuzy You dont need to tell me about MK, I know him, I play him against CPU's when I'm bored, and just because one character is spammable doesnt mean that the whole game is broken, cuz most people dont even play MK. Why dont you actually play online before you talk
@rnegron15 Cause they take enjoyment to another level something megamoron15 cant understand ur to cranky and boring to understand the al mighty wombo combo screams x)
@e104jokerr wtf? no u misunderstood me, i LOVE the wombo combo epicness im talking about other people that set up all this crap about how "brawl sux melee is better omg items are cheap" and then they pretty much make ait a religion or something.
@ProtoDemn Great comeback, sir. I don't have to be "good" at a game like Brawl (It doesn't take much practice, by the way) when I can pick Metaknight and press the b button.
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Not really, ever see when Mango play Brawl? He got raped all day. Though Melee pros will have some natural talent in Brawl because it's somewhat similar, the huge difference in physics will hinder them. Thus, someone who knows the physics and all the tricks will win. Another example, Armada entered Brawl and Melee at Genesis. He got 2nd in Melee and he got like 40thish in Brawl I believe.
Yeah, but M2K plays both competitively. He put time into learning Brawl as well as Melee. Though his prior skill in Melee helped him get good at Brawl, he still had to learn it before being good at it.
@clayvision LMFAO Like I said, you just suck at Brawl and ur being a pussy over it. Sure I wasnt the best in Melee, but I lived it anyways. It was a great game, just like Brawl. They're both amazing
@clayvision yeah melee pros can compete with brawl pros and prolly come close but if they even try to play melee they wont know what the fuck is going on
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You bet wow, Melee is outdated, similar to how SSB64 became outdated when Melee came out, and Ill make you a deal, if you can respond to this without making yourself look stupid, I won't insult your intelligence.
Brawl has more characters and stages... that's about the only way it outclasses melee. However, more characters and stages does not mean better game. Going from 64 to Melee the gameplay was upgraded. Not only greatly increasing the number of stages and characters, It became faster and they made controlling your character after getting hit easier. Not to mention the new airdodge and spot dodge. Melee to Brawl, the gameplay was slowed down quite a bit and combos because nearly nonexistant
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Nonexistent combos? But YOU were the one who complained about "infinites". As for that Air-dodge, it was perfected in Brawl, taking away that pathetic "WaveDash" technique. Controlling your character after getting hit in Brawl is just as easy as in Melee. Besides, as I've pointed out, Brawl requires SKILL and LUCK, two aspects missing from a certain, Nintendo fighter.
the infinites are from throws, not hits. It's easier in Brawl to control your character. You recover instantly and can go much further more easily which is why combos are almost non-existant. You can immediately air dodge and get away. There's no skill in that
Where did you even get that combination anyway? That sounds more like a Brawl combo to me minus the wave dash of course. Washdashing will NOT help you combo unless you are Fox or Falco for one thing. Every combo is different in Melee, it depends entirely on how the person reacts. However, the same combo will never work all the time.
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I'll tell you where I found this combination, watching "pros" play Melee. And about this whole "it depends entirely on how the person reacts" thing, think about it, in Brawl, you said so yourself, you recover instantly, giving the defensive character more options, thus making it harder for the offensive player to find the right action to take. Now what?
Yeah, thus why there's no combos. It makes it so you can camp all day and have nothing to worry about. Brawl is all about defense rather than both like Melee. Which is why most players just spam. If you take a hit, who cares? You'll get away. In Melee, you have to watch yourself at all times as well as put the pressure on to defeat your opponent. If you get caught off guard, it takes a lot more skill to get away.
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Now you're making stuff up. In Brawl, if you want to do a combo, you need a couple of things...what were they again, oh yeah, SKILL and LUCK. the skill comes in by, in a moment's notice, you need to make the right decision that will most benefit you, the luck comes in when you don't quite make the right decision, "Can I still turn this to my advantage?" Luck also comes in if your character happens to trip, but that's another argument.
lol, I'm not making up anything. Oh yeah, you could also trip randomly and just get foward smashed to your death. And making the "right" decision is part of all fighting games, not just the Smash series. It's called mind games which is all Brawl really has. Melee requires both mind games to make the right choices and the skill to pull off techniques to execute them. Luck is something that shouldn't be there, period, thus why items are always off in competitive smash.
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Not necessarily. In Brawl, Meteor Smashes don't always work effectively, AND can sometimes be recovered from So even in mid-air, you have a choice to make, "do I go for the Meteor Smash and hope it takes them out, or do I Edge Guard, hoping they can't recover?" What choice do you have in Melee? METEOR SMASH!!!
You can recover from meteor smashes in Melee and 64 too. It's just a matter of damage and if you can cancel out of it. Some meteor smashes you can, some you can't, same thing in Brawl. By the way, most deaths in Melee are caused by back and foward aerials than anything else. Even meteor smashes.
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Really? That's interesting! Let me think about that. Oh wait, my mistake, that's absolute bullshit. It doesn't matter what kills them, it's the simple fact that the defending player CAN'T DEFEND!!! Ever heard of a coup de grace? Melee is for guys who want to feel superior without actually accomplishing anything.
hahahaha, I'm don't feel superior, I enjoy playing it. They can defend if they outsmart the person and escape. In fact, a lot of the time they can defend. Anyway, I'm done with you scrub. If you wanna play Brawl, I don't care. I'll keep playing Melee because I enjoy it.
You don't understand melee at all. If I had to guess I probably know brawl better than you and obviously melee better than you. melee is just a better competitive game, a deeper game, and a better game for spectators.
I understand Melee enough to realize that, yes, it is better for competing, whereas Brawl is better is you wanna have FUN, and want to play with FRIENDS! Melee fights are for the most part EXTREMELY one-sided, while in Brawl, you never know what's gonna happen next. People don't like Brawl because their opponents actually stand a chance, and Meleers don't like playing fair.
And no, I highly doubt you know Brawl better than me, otherwise you would've realized this stuff yourself.
I don't even know how to approach this... so many things are wrong with your knowledge and logic. Ummmm.
Firstly your idea that one person does or doesn't stand a chance in brawl or melee doesn't even make sense. Both players have the same options. This is true for ANY game even rock-paper-scissors so not having a chance has little to do with the game and everything to do with the players. I'm going to assume you meant that brawl allows weaker players a better chance of winning.
That may seem true because there's a greater luck factor, but the simple fact is that people who know what they are doing in brawl can rape you just as hard if not harder than in melee. You can get raped by chain grabs (especially ICs infinites) and a good diddy will make a weaker player feel like he can't move. This can pretty much happen with any of the high tiers.
As for melee not being fair: I don't even know what that means. I guess you mean its unfair that you get so much of an advantage off of one hit? Only cgs on spacies are really that bad. Brawl actually has more instances where one hit = death. You also need to consider DI. It doesn't happen, because people know how to DI. This means people need to learn how to read DI to even combo. There's nothing unfair about conditioning and reading your opponent and if there is brawl has the same fault.
he said dat ain't falco...
...but dat really AIN'T FALCO.
Michael326 5 days ago
This cannot be a wombo combo. A wombo combo is known to be a good 2v1 combo!
Fezze93 3 weeks ago
That indeed wasn't Falco.
flashburn117 2 months ago
Melee has way more depth than brawl. There's wavedashing and dash dancing which give players so much more control of their characters. Theres tech chasing. Then there’s the stuff that brawl has like spacing, stage control, and DI which may be much more apparent in brawl, but are at least just as important in Melee. Melee has more stuff/depth which is why it’s by far the best smash game. P.S. If u prefer 64 for it's combos that's understandable :) and Brawl should be for casual play only.
ExtraVirgin69 3 months ago
@ExtraVirgin69 just wanna point out that there's tech chasing in brawl too...
MaxThunder 2 months ago
@MaxThunder and Dash dancing..
VergilSFD 2 months ago
@VergilSFD technically there's dashdancing, yeah... but it's pretty much useless... and it gives you a higher chance of tripping...
MaxThunder 2 weeks ago
OOOOW OOOWWW OOOOOWWW OOOWWW
PhoenixDive 4 months ago
This is why i love fighting games! The hype and intensity from other players makes its TEH SEX!
perudude 4 months ago
0:11, fried chicken comes into the room.
PIauge 4 months ago
in SSBB you have to react better because hitstun is less, -- more skillful?
They are all different games and they are going to be. They didn't intend to make Brawl a 'Melee 2'. If you want to go play melee play melee, but brawl does have depth and skill, its just people seem to give up on it instantly which is bias and unfair
RangerFrogLord 4 months ago 2
@RangerFrogLord it has a different kind of metagame but it's so slow and campy. That's why it's considered less skillful. I've played the game and its partially true but when you get to high level play its really hard to get a hit with as many defense options and lack of hitstun. It can be near as skillful as melee but it just gets boring with all the spacing you have to do. In melee it's fun because you can plan a whooping you don't have to wait to get another hit and you can combo.
SlamTheLabel 4 months ago 3
0:10 DAMN SON !
PIauge 4 months ago
fucking beautiful
dash257 4 months ago
mas es lo q gritan atras
popurru1 5 months ago
lol at 0:01 it actually was an up-smash
gamerfreak5665 6 months ago
Nice combo.
Draginvry2 6 months ago
the screaming and shit makes all this video
LloydAurion2006 6 months ago 2
Did they seriously just use the same audio from that original video? And there is no Wombo Combo since there is only 1v1 not 2v1
OneADayFoody 6 months ago
This is the sound i hear when my neighbor's get it on........staying up so late playing this game.
Xandivhable 6 months ago
the best part of this video is where mango commentates on his own match
chewyourfood187 7 months ago
I love how there was actually an up smash in this.
naetoru610 7 months ago
i love hearing the audio everywhere especially when he yells and i have no idea wtf he's saying
KellyTheAlien 7 months ago
this is the audio from when ss and tang gangraped zhu. problem?
RedGamer321 8 months ago
this is the audio track to the actual video....
JABR0NIZ 8 months ago
@JABR0NIZ well no shit sherlock
guitarskate613 8 months ago
happy feet?
SnuggleDiet 9 months ago
@SnuggleDiet
When falco dash dances or wave dashes they call it happy feet Since falco looks like a penguin
XxHonkyLipsxX 8 months ago
my dick hurts
Ks0ccer 9 months ago
retarded, a bunch of retarded fanboys orgasming
kyoko277 9 months ago
@kyoko277 You don't know anything about ssbm on yt... do you? The audio is from a different video where a rare and awesome (although I agree wasn't THAT epic) combo happened, and I don't understand either why they were so loud but I guess it was just for fun :P
jigglypuff1337 9 months ago
-.- wasn't even that good.
Renth 10 months ago
Hard to concentrate on the video, with all that fuckin' screaming & shit .
MultiSatire 1 year ago
@MultiSatire Agreed. That's why this is a thumbs down for me.
prelynmax 11 months ago
Man this isn't nearly as good as the actual wombo combo. >.>
Still decent though to give you some credit.
It's just not worthy of wombo combo.
TheClubbman 1 year ago
does not hold a candle to the real wombo combo
MrJordanport 1 year ago
se emocionan por algo que les sale de pura CHIRIPA! no mams!!!
.......y dejen de gritar parecen lokos xD.........
MrMOnStErWoLf 1 year ago
Niggas need to know you can't wombo-combo without a partner.
Also, most retarded dun-over ever. The creator should be ashamed.
zweihand 1 year ago 13
@zweihand Tang don't need no partner
3xSwords 1 year ago
@zweihand Bro a wombo combo is a zero to death combo in rapid success. Onlt the original wombo combo included partners and that wasnt even the terms origin. Stay frosty.
afroliciousification 2 weeks ago
@afroliciousification Really? I always thought it had to be a juggle between two teammates. Kind of what my friends and I would do in Guardian Heroes on the Saturn... keep juggling enemies for minutes after they were dead. (you could keep milking EXP that way as long as they didn't touch the ground/ fade out) Thanks for the info, brotato.
zweihand 2 weeks ago
stole the audio from a more popular video, fail
dragondook 1 year ago
@dragondook everybody uses wombo combo for their video o.O
LordOfTheWangs12 1 year ago 5
@dragondook that actually was the point of the video, and you couldn't understand that... You fail.
DarkSim64 11 months ago 5
What the fu-- WHAT THA FUCK, MANN!!??
199789638 1 year ago
commentetor+Wombo Combo= MEGA ORGAZM!!!!!!!!!!!
CiviIBone 1 year ago
the phrase THAT AINT falco is more fitting then in the original in this vid.
MrSpikedsunshine 1 year ago
@MrSpikedsunshine Where did that come from? i've heard it on a bunch of vdeos but why did it start?
BonJoviFanboy 1 year ago
@BonJoviFanboy they say *that aint falco* because of zhu (the falco who gets combo'd falco combo video happy feet.
SparkSSBM 1 year ago
All I hear is:
Happy Feet
WOMBO COMBO!
YOUR NOT FALCO!!!
*ORGASMS*
andrewman78 1 year ago
@andrewman78 No, That aint falco.
cxsss 1 year ago
guess fox got his revenge on getting owned by captain falcon in that last wombo combo
saurfan 1 year ago 87
@saurfan ...yeah...
hyperhavoc 1 year ago
god damn i wish casual fags would shut up about tourney fags and tourney fags would shut up about casual fags. and i wish brawlers would just shut the fuck up, it's not even a fucking brawl video. jesus christ. i don't even play the damn game, and i bet i know more about either game then any of you scrub fags.
kingsamin 1 year ago 5
brawls better for caracters and melees better for gameplay
dk64bestfan 1 year ago
this is kinda retarded... they start screaming when he lands 2 hits in a row. Maybe after the whole combo, but reawlly 4 hits and OH OHO HO HO HO HO HOH OHH OHO H HOORGASM?
BrawlDaBest 1 year ago
@BrawlDaBest this is not the original audio, it's from the clip wombo combo
Doomolish 1 year ago
@BrawlDaBest The audio is from a completely different video...
LushLahti 1 year ago
lol at the end wtf!
cruelwolf90 1 year ago
Ugh, tourneyfags. Because arguing over which games are better based off competitive merits is going to get you laid.
Seriously. Shut the fuck up.
Luxuryball 1 year ago
@Luxuryball you need smash to get you laid? lolfag.
kingsamin 1 year ago
@kingsamin Playing smash to get laid would be kinda really awesome.
Luxuryball 1 year ago
@Luxuryball you're correct sir.
kingsamin 1 year ago
SSB: Execution
SSBM: Depth
SSBB: Casual play
That about sums it up
confusedbanatt 1 year ago 141
@confusedbanatt yeah basically except add execution to melee too. thats why it owns
marioman756 1 year ago
@confusedbanatt
Lol, the whole entire series is casual play. Games geared at kids licensed by Nintendo.
FxckCensors 6 months ago
@confusedbanatt SBB: A game made for little kids that young adults and teenagers turned into a competitive sport.
SSBM: See above.
SSBB: Casual play because the hitstun isn't big enough for combos, which slows the game down and creates massive stall.
zackolot 5 months ago
@confusedbanatt
i don't like 64, Melee is SO much better.
juiey2 4 months ago
@confusedbanatt
How about project M? What's your take on that?
TheDevicer 4 months ago
@confusedbanatt *eye roll*
XxBroBuzzxX 4 months ago
@confusedbanatt Ohai Meele elitist
XxBroBuzzxX 3 months ago
@XxBroBuzzxX
Well I posted this a full year ago, and you already commented on it a month ago, but okay
confusedbanatt 3 months ago
@confusedbanatt :3
XxBroBuzzxX 3 months ago
@confusedbanatt Lol melee elitist.
XxBroBuzzxX 2 months ago
If your going to complain about how bad brawl is why don't you just go back to super smash bros 64? it has even more of what you guys seem to like than mele does >.<
Rige02 1 year ago
@Rige02 Because brawl has more content, but its slower and for little kids. Its all dumbed down...
asdfghjkl10531 1 year ago
@asdfghjkl10531
Guys stop arguing
Brawl was meant for kids you don't have to go on its back about it
matzoball101 1 year ago
Brawl doesn't suck, it's just different.
Quite lame how people talk shit about Brawl without knowing what they're talking about.
NorwegishGuys 1 year ago
@NorwegishGuys ... Nope. A lot of people have cited sources and given legitimate reasoning why Melee is superior. All you've done is insist that Brawl doesn't suck, that it's just different.
History class and sex are different too, aren't they? But no, history class doesn't suck in comparison. By your logic, at least.
TheSuperSmashBrother 1 year ago
@TheSuperSmashBrother
SSBB is fun too, but some just deny it just because it's not the same as SSBM.
Comparing SSBM and SSBB to sex and history clas is just stupid.
I like both games, and both have pros and cons. So please, stop saying Brawl is crap. You're not theonly one I'm talking to)
NorwegishGuys 1 year ago
@NorwegishGuys Tripping. Lack of competition. Blatant character imbalance to the point that some characters are almost gimmicky. Poor stage design. General community. Incredible latency during network play, so much so that network play can't even be considered an asset. The lack of amazing occurrences outside of matches with items, where character imbalance becomes even more blatant. Lack of a competitive scene.
Your move.
TheSuperSmashBrother 1 year ago
SSBM is better as a competive game,but I think SSBB is more fun to play o:
In SSBB you can save matches and take photos while playing live instead of playing only in one certain mode to do it. Also, SSBB got more modes, and I think BtT and HRC is way more fun to play than in SSBM. You're right about that Brawl isn't balanced at all, but the most tourney matches I see at YouTube in SSBM someone is either using Falco,Shiek,Marth orFox,Which proves that SSBM isn't so much better.
Fack comment limit
NorwegishGuys 1 year ago
@NorwegishGuys Dude, people also use Peach, DK, captain Falcon, Link, toon link... Not JUST 1 or 2 guys out of almost double the characters...
asdfghjkl10531 1 year ago
@TheSuperSmashBrother please tell me what you mean by "lack of amazing occurrences outside of matches with items" because it sounds like you're saying cool or amazing things only happen when items are on... which in my opinion, is absolutely wrong. Things such as the battle between ally and m2k from apex (i believe) are examples of amazing, cool, or epic occurrences or matches.
Dood1494 1 year ago
@Dood1494 Because... Brawl?
Shit like this or the real Wombo Combo virtually never happens in Brawl because I can mash air dodge to get out of way too many strings. I'm not saying amazing stuff never ever happens in Brawl. I'm just saying it's few and far between.
TheSuperSmashBrother 1 year ago
@TheSuperSmashBrother yeah, ok, i was thinking you said cool stuff never happens, but i agree with you, stuff rarely happens in brawl that is just plain awesome!
Dood1494 1 year ago
Metaknight isn't the reason brawl is gay. Brawl being developed to have less of a competitive edge is the reason brawl is a lesser game. Read the sakurai interviews. If you disagree try explaining how tripping makes any sense to a display of skill.
junkimchi 1 year ago
LOL brawl.
Just pick Meta Knight and you win.
Melee,pick a character and you have to get good,get skill.
I picked Roy,low tier and can still beat some high tiers.
shaikuzy 1 year ago
@shaikuzy Metaknight is THAT broken? I thought his attacks did too little damage for him to be too powerful.
RaceBandit 1 year ago
@RaceBandit To said it in a short amount of words. Meta Knight=metagame. The only metagame in brawl. But his is not close to melee metagame.
Zalozis 1 year ago
@shaikuzy Every 2d fighter had someone that has the advantage over most of thier cast. get over it.
KhgamerSage 1 year ago
@shaikuzy lol I can see you never played Brawl. "MK" doesnt mean you win, you still have to be good at the character you play. Anyone that thinks Brawl doesnt require skill never played it or sucked at is and is just being a crybaby
ProtoDemn 1 year ago
@ProtoDemn
I played Brawl. I was an Ike player and was good. So don't jump to conclusions. :)
shaikuzy 1 year ago
@shaikuzy Yeah Ike requires more skill than Meta night.....but then theres a TRUE MK player, that uses Dair and Fair instead of B
ProtoDemn 1 year ago
@ProtoDemn MK is just fast as hell,priority thats like bs,has good recovery moves and good killing moves. Reason why he is top tier and why Brawl is like broken as hell.
shaikuzy 1 year ago
@shaikuzy You dont need to tell me about MK, I know him, I play him against CPU's when I'm bored, and just because one character is spammable doesnt mean that the whole game is broken, cuz most people dont even play MK. Why dont you actually play online before you talk
ProtoDemn 1 year ago
@ProtoDemn
God,don't know why I'm arguing on youtube...
Just shut the hell up,quit trying to be the smart guy. Go ahead and play Brawl and I'll play Melee.
shaikuzy 1 year ago
@shaikuzy I wanna play both though >.< Is there a GameCube Emulator? Cuz I'll play with shit controls on my computer I dont really care =P
ProtoDemn 1 year ago
delayed shine bair lol
made me say "WOA" IRL
junkimchi 1 year ago
omfg its just a game. why are you all making such a big deal out of it?
rnegron15 1 year ago
@rnegron15 because its fucking fun u boring moron .i.
e104jokerr 1 year ago 2
@e104jokerr no shit its fun, asshole. im wondering why all of these people cant enjoy it as a GAME. they take it too seriously.
rnegron15 1 year ago
@rnegron15 Cause they take enjoyment to another level something megamoron15 cant understand ur to cranky and boring to understand the al mighty wombo combo screams x)
e104jokerr 1 year ago
@e104jokerr wtf? no u misunderstood me, i LOVE the wombo combo epicness im talking about other people that set up all this crap about how "brawl sux melee is better omg items are cheap" and then they pretty much make ait a religion or something.
rnegron15 1 year ago
@rnegron15 lol if you play with items you have no credibility to even argue.
boooshk 1 year ago
LOL IS THE NAME ABOVE HIS HEAD WC FOR WOMBO COMBO? Ahahahaha
TravisSaysGG 1 year ago
@TravisSaysGG I believe it's for west coast but I could be wrong.
robofish500 1 year ago
"Twas Faptastic
pkflash889 1 year ago 2
Which match was this?
BadassLamp 1 year ago
@SalaComMander
"I'm talking about WAY too much hit-lag, so that, in Melee, one fairly decent hit is all you really need to set up a K.O."
Have you PLAYED this game?
"Then, since every character can wave dash, it gives the victim even LESS of a chance to recover."
What does wavedashing do as an edgeguard? You can edgehog easier? In Brawl, you don't even have to turn around to edgehog.
Cont.
CloneHat 2 years ago
"you can't wave dash, so unless you're one of the faster characters, the best you can hope for is to edge-guard"
Uh, what else would you be doing? Pressing the instant-win button that's only in Melee?
"you might TRIP"
...sounds GREAT.
"I'll be playing BRAWL, where fights aren't ONE-SIDED, where directional influence ACTUALLY WORKS"
Again: have you played the game?
"where it's POSSIBLE for a "low-tier" character to beat a "high-tier" character"
...with a smash ball and a few hammers...
CloneHat 2 years ago
Keep it down ! I'm trying to have a nap !
UNSUBSCRIBING 2 years ago
The audio should've started about a second later...
N1c2k3 2 years ago 24
haha u took the audio from the wombo clip, n it fit perfectly!
TheGrung3 2 years ago
The only thing Brawl is better at is putting me to sleep.
JWT2k6 2 years ago 69
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A man I know said "Anyone who thinks Melee is better than Brawl SUCKS AT BRAWL!!!"
This man is extremely good at Brawl, as well as every Smash Bros. game, therefor, he would know a thing about this.
If you have a problem with it, take it up with him.
SalaComMander 2 years ago
@JWT2k6 I cant sleep that unsatisfied lol
Ka0star 1 year ago
@JWT2k6 Cuz you suck at it? OK then, good night
ProtoDemn 1 year ago
@ProtoDemn Great comeback, sir. I don't have to be "good" at a game like Brawl (It doesn't take much practice, by the way) when I can pick Metaknight and press the b button.
umad?
JWT2k6 1 year ago
The funniest part is if he ever played a Brawl pro they'd probably rape him hard with whatever stupid tricks it has and he's whine about that
Deathknight50000 2 years ago
@Deathknight50000 WTF r u talking about, vice versa, melee pros rape brawl pros at both games
zangetzu7 2 years ago 9
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Not really, ever see when Mango play Brawl? He got raped all day. Though Melee pros will have some natural talent in Brawl because it's somewhat similar, the huge difference in physics will hinder them. Thus, someone who knows the physics and all the tricks will win. Another example, Armada entered Brawl and Melee at Genesis. He got 2nd in Melee and he got like 40thish in Brawl I believe.
Deathknight50000 2 years ago
well then again there is m2k, was at the top of melee for 2 years and is still close to the top, and didnt he get 2nd at genisis brawl
zangetzu7 2 years ago 2
Yeah, but M2K plays both competitively. He put time into learning Brawl as well as Melee. Though his prior skill in Melee helped him get good at Brawl, he still had to learn it before being good at it.
Deathknight50000 2 years ago
he was prob good when he started. He got better from playing obviously.
Ka0star 2 years ago
Armada got 17th using sheik. PRETTY GOOD. HE AINT NERVOUS! WE AINT NERVOUS! THEYRE NERVOUS!
LamePants 2 years ago 2
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brawl sux
clayvision 2 years ago 37
@clayvision More like YOU suck at Brawl so ur being a lil crybaby over it =3
ProtoDemn 1 year ago
@ProtoDemn more like you suck at smash in general so stop sucking brawls dick and play a real game
clayvision 1 year ago
@clayvision LMFAO Like I said, you just suck at Brawl and ur being a pussy over it. Sure I wasnt the best in Melee, but I lived it anyways. It was a great game, just like Brawl. They're both amazing
ProtoDemn 1 year ago
@ProtoDemn you dont know me you have no idea how good i am at any game melee or brawl or otherwise
and no sorry brawlsux
clayvision 1 year ago
mango "gets raped" at brawl cause he wins 2 rounds and then forfeits the tournament and finds a melee setup
Oosanbashi 2 years ago 50
The set I saw he lost to DSF
Deathknight50000 2 years ago
@Oosanbashi you are my friend
bethelstudentca 2 years ago
actually hes right about that one
brawl pros will beat melee pros in brawl but melee pros will beat the shit outta brawl pros in melee
its
clayvision 2 years ago
@clayvision yeah melee pros can compete with brawl pros and prolly come close but if they even try to play melee they wont know what the fuck is going on
jasonistehgreatest 2 years ago
no one cares, <3
gameboyredpee 2 years ago
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I never claimed anyone did, I just felt like pointing out how "Brawl>Melee"
SalaComMander 2 years ago
Uh, no.
ShortPers0n 2 years ago
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Uh, too bad. Bye-bye, Melee, you're OBSOLETE!!!
SalaComMander 2 years ago
Then tell me why there are more Melee entrants than Brawl entrants for this upcoming Pound 4 tourney.
ShortPers0n 2 years ago 6
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You bet wow, Melee is outdated, similar to how SSB64 became outdated when Melee came out, and Ill make you a deal, if you can respond to this without making yourself look stupid, I won't insult your intelligence.
SalaComMander 2 years ago
Brawl has more characters and stages... that's about the only way it outclasses melee. However, more characters and stages does not mean better game. Going from 64 to Melee the gameplay was upgraded. Not only greatly increasing the number of stages and characters, It became faster and they made controlling your character after getting hit easier. Not to mention the new airdodge and spot dodge. Melee to Brawl, the gameplay was slowed down quite a bit and combos because nearly nonexistant
Deathknight50000 2 years ago 7
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Nonexistent combos? But YOU were the one who complained about "infinites". As for that Air-dodge, it was perfected in Brawl, taking away that pathetic "WaveDash" technique. Controlling your character after getting hit in Brawl is just as easy as in Melee. Besides, as I've pointed out, Brawl requires SKILL and LUCK, two aspects missing from a certain, Nintendo fighter.
SalaComMander 2 years ago
the infinites are from throws, not hits. It's easier in Brawl to control your character. You recover instantly and can go much further more easily which is why combos are almost non-existant. You can immediately air dodge and get away. There's no skill in that
Deathknight50000 2 years ago 8
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Where the Hell is the skill in "Forward Smash, WaveDash, Meteor Smash"? Sounds to me like a coward's fighting tactics.
SalaComMander 2 years ago
Where did you even get that combination anyway? That sounds more like a Brawl combo to me minus the wave dash of course. Washdashing will NOT help you combo unless you are Fox or Falco for one thing. Every combo is different in Melee, it depends entirely on how the person reacts. However, the same combo will never work all the time.
Deathknight50000 2 years ago 8
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I'll tell you where I found this combination, watching "pros" play Melee. And about this whole "it depends entirely on how the person reacts" thing, think about it, in Brawl, you said so yourself, you recover instantly, giving the defensive character more options, thus making it harder for the offensive player to find the right action to take. Now what?
SalaComMander 2 years ago
Yeah, thus why there's no combos. It makes it so you can camp all day and have nothing to worry about. Brawl is all about defense rather than both like Melee. Which is why most players just spam. If you take a hit, who cares? You'll get away. In Melee, you have to watch yourself at all times as well as put the pressure on to defeat your opponent. If you get caught off guard, it takes a lot more skill to get away.
Deathknight50000 2 years ago 10
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Now you're making stuff up. In Brawl, if you want to do a combo, you need a couple of things...what were they again, oh yeah, SKILL and LUCK. the skill comes in by, in a moment's notice, you need to make the right decision that will most benefit you, the luck comes in when you don't quite make the right decision, "Can I still turn this to my advantage?" Luck also comes in if your character happens to trip, but that's another argument.
SalaComMander 2 years ago
lol, I'm not making up anything. Oh yeah, you could also trip randomly and just get foward smashed to your death. And making the "right" decision is part of all fighting games, not just the Smash series. It's called mind games which is all Brawl really has. Melee requires both mind games to make the right choices and the skill to pull off techniques to execute them. Luck is something that shouldn't be there, period, thus why items are always off in competitive smash.
Deathknight50000 2 years ago 9
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What "right choice" is there in Melee? METEOR SMASH!!!
SalaComMander 2 years ago
yeah, same as in Brawl and 64
Deathknight50000 2 years ago 8
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Not necessarily. In Brawl, Meteor Smashes don't always work effectively, AND can sometimes be recovered from So even in mid-air, you have a choice to make, "do I go for the Meteor Smash and hope it takes them out, or do I Edge Guard, hoping they can't recover?" What choice do you have in Melee? METEOR SMASH!!!
SalaComMander 2 years ago
You can recover from meteor smashes in Melee and 64 too. It's just a matter of damage and if you can cancel out of it. Some meteor smashes you can, some you can't, same thing in Brawl. By the way, most deaths in Melee are caused by back and foward aerials than anything else. Even meteor smashes.
Deathknight50000 2 years ago 8
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Really? That's interesting! Let me think about that. Oh wait, my mistake, that's absolute bullshit. It doesn't matter what kills them, it's the simple fact that the defending player CAN'T DEFEND!!! Ever heard of a coup de grace? Melee is for guys who want to feel superior without actually accomplishing anything.
SalaComMander 2 years ago
hahahaha, I'm don't feel superior, I enjoy playing it. They can defend if they outsmart the person and escape. In fact, a lot of the time they can defend. Anyway, I'm done with you scrub. If you wanna play Brawl, I don't care. I'll keep playing Melee because I enjoy it.
Deathknight50000 2 years ago 14
@Deathknight50000 You nailed it boy, you nailed it.
fremoq 2 years ago
Holy shit this guy is stupid.
AznSensation1440 2 years ago
not really much of an upgrade
Deathknight50000 2 years ago 5
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Congratulations, you avoided looking like an idiot for once.
SalaComMander 2 years ago
Haha, actually I look like an idiot for arguing with a scrub for so long
Deathknight50000 2 years ago 7
You don't understand melee at all. If I had to guess I probably know brawl better than you and obviously melee better than you. melee is just a better competitive game, a deeper game, and a better game for spectators.
rathyAro 2 years ago
I understand Melee enough to realize that, yes, it is better for competing, whereas Brawl is better is you wanna have FUN, and want to play with FRIENDS! Melee fights are for the most part EXTREMELY one-sided, while in Brawl, you never know what's gonna happen next. People don't like Brawl because their opponents actually stand a chance, and Meleers don't like playing fair.
And no, I highly doubt you know Brawl better than me, otherwise you would've realized this stuff yourself.
SalaComMander 2 years ago
I don't even know how to approach this... so many things are wrong with your knowledge and logic. Ummmm.
Firstly your idea that one person does or doesn't stand a chance in brawl or melee doesn't even make sense. Both players have the same options. This is true for ANY game even rock-paper-scissors so not having a chance has little to do with the game and everything to do with the players. I'm going to assume you meant that brawl allows weaker players a better chance of winning.
rathyAro 2 years ago
That may seem true because there's a greater luck factor, but the simple fact is that people who know what they are doing in brawl can rape you just as hard if not harder than in melee. You can get raped by chain grabs (especially ICs infinites) and a good diddy will make a weaker player feel like he can't move. This can pretty much happen with any of the high tiers.
rathyAro 2 years ago
games with broken chaingrabs are much more balanced? ur dumb
jasonistehgreatest 2 years ago
I don't even know what you're talking about.
rathyAro 2 years ago
As for melee not being fair: I don't even know what that means. I guess you mean its unfair that you get so much of an advantage off of one hit? Only cgs on spacies are really that bad. Brawl actually has more instances where one hit = death. You also need to consider DI. It doesn't happen, because people know how to DI. This means people need to learn how to read DI to even combo. There's nothing unfair about conditioning and reading your opponent and if there is brawl has the same fault.