Nielsen replaces workers with H-1Bs from Tata Part 1

[MrPhon1984]

i work at nielsen oldsmar

[sillynjgal]

2010 worse now than ever! Lou please do an update on this rpt. Americans need to know who owns & runs their TV Ratings. TaTa (Habib) has and is eliminating jobs by the thousands for his TaTa H1B workers. Nielsen employees and the city of Oldsmar were never OK with this! Please repeat for the American people.

[sillynjgal]

2010 now worse now than ever! Lou please do an update on this rpt. Americans need to know who owns & runs their TV Ratings. TaTa (Habib) has and is eliminating jobs by the thousands for his TaTa H1B workers. Nielsen employees and the city of Oldsmar were never OK with this! Please repeat for the American people.

[PammyG68]

Free trade is the last thing some of these companies want. Take away the H1-B visas and open up the labor markets at equal wages and suddenly the preference for foreign labor would go away as well as the so called "shortages". What scammers!

[pogularocky]

@PammyG68

LOL... If a company is restricted from hiring harder workers for cheaper from outside, they'll just shift shop out of the country all together.

Micron Semiconductors had to do exactly that. They were unable to compete with Hynix from Korea [on product pricing] and so moved their centers out of US and into Indonesia to have some chance of fighting the competition.

It's a global economy baby. You can't fight it.

[PammyG68]

@pogularocky - You did nothing more that reiterate my points but prefaced it with a "LOL". That was my point exactly but the bottom line is - it does not matter what 3rd world country jobs are sent to or products are made in id people HERE do not have jobs to buy the products. It is called unemployment, foreclosure and economic collapse baby. You can't fight it.

You are one of the dimmer nimords that I have seen post on here...

[pogularocky]

@PammyG68

You are not bright at all if you think I wrote the same as you. read again. You said opening up of labor markets will reduce the preference for foreign labor. I said they were unable to pay the high wages American Engineers expect and so had to move to another country. Which implies that even if you restrict H1B Visas and open up labor markets, the harder working and cheaper foreign labor will always remain preferred & so these companies will shift shop out of USA all together.

[PammyG68]

@pogularocky - The cost of labor is purely a function of supply and demand. High supply low wages, THUS, the phoney cry of "shortage" in order to increase the supply. You seem to missing the very fundamentals of economics. None of it is a fuction or "willing to" or "wanting to"....

[PammyG68]

@pogularocky - H1B and outsourcing are both concurrently happening - it is not an either or. Companies ARE restricted on who and how many, expecially, in a severe recession. Also, many American companies have scaled back on H1B workers because they have found the credentials to be phoney and the work inferior.

[pogularocky]

@PammyG68

H1B actually can be used as a deterrent against outsourcing. Instead of companies setting up branches in India, you can get Indians to come to US and work here. That way, whatever they earn is mostly spent up in US itself and so the money is not being dumped out of USA. Do you get this part of economics kid?

People talk trash about foreigners to shift blame for their slacking off while the economy was fine. Have fun doing it... When the economy gets normal, companies will resume H1B

[PammyG68]

@pogularocky - That may be true but H1B has limits. That is what I am saying it is not unfettered. The irony is I cannot go work in India. Why is that? Also, if your country is such full of economics experts why do they not stay there and build India instead of coming to other countries as a "Guest Worker". Also, if the work is superior you would be getting comparable pay - but your not - it is 30-50 percent less. There is no shortage - only a shortage at a certain pricepoint.

[PammyG68]

There is NO labor shortage!

[PammyG68]

The word "Global Economy" is even false. Many countries have laws on the books banning foreigners from living or working their. We have ruined out economy with no f=manufacturing and implemented a cutesey word "service economy". There has to be goods to service. This country is going to become a very violent and dangerous pslace to live in the next year. How will we sustain our tax base? Most countries realize that their labor force IS their economy.

[pogularocky]

@PammyG68

"Global Economy"

Whether it is a farce or reality, it was something Corporate America pushed down the throat of the 3rd world countries since the 1970s. We suffered first, realized the reality of the situation and then started outsmarting the west and made the best of what we were forced into.

Now, you reap what you sow, right?

[PammyG68]

@pogularocky - If you have "outsmarted" the west then your own country would be thriving - and you would not end up on our shores like hungry refugess. You would have your own high-tech industries and your own viable economy and would not be on You-Tube ranting how your country is smart - the proof is in the puddin', darlin.

[pogularocky]

@PammyG68

Darling, did you ever read up on your pathetic history? The white supremacy past that still haunts the west?

The British invaded and colonized India for 300 years and enslaved us and looted all our resources. India was the richest empire in the world during the silk era and also during the diamond and spice trade era. The British drained us of our natural resources like gold, copper, iron, coal, oil, diamonds, mica. We were left with nothing we won our independence in 1947.

[PammyG68]

@pogularocky - My Pathetic History or yours? I know them both.

[pogularocky]

@PammyG68

In just 63 years, we picked up our shattered country, joined the pieces, healed our wounds and rose up to compete with the west again, holding our tradition of forgive-and-forget and not picking fights with the west over the past.

India does have advanced industries and a huge economy. We are growing faster than the west expected. India already owns a lot of companies in the west. Jaguar, Range Rover, British Steel, Pepsi, Sara Lee... they are just a few companies owned by India now

[PammyG68]

@pogularocky, After living thousands of years in squalor-congrats.

Yes then you will not need to worry bout syphoning off of other countries then or coming here to work on a "Guest Worker Visa" . Make your own country viable.

[PammyG68]

@pogularocky - "outsmarting the west" ? LOL....then put it to work in your own country and you will not have worry about getting a "Guest Worker" Visa..... LOL

[PammyG68]

@pogularocky - It is a Farce. it will be "Global" when it is bi-directional. meaning if I want to go work in India ot China, I may. Tell me, Why is it that I cannot be issued a Guest worker Visa to work in India? Let's see if you know....

[sting24001]

well US needs outsourcing, bcoz Indians and Chinese are just smarter, look at the number of them doing PhDs in US; more than half of total No.

Obama is huge supporter of outsourcing and friend of India, i hope he wins.

[johnwright03]

Mr Dobbs..and Mr Doubter on Indian Firms and H1B workers should first learn about the way the H1B visa is implemented in this country..this is the third or fourth video, he mentioning about govt firm not looking after the expiry of six years of H1B visa, FYI..Mr Dobbs is misleading all Americans and assumes that we are lazy to find out the validity of this info. Any1 violating such 6 years visa would never be granted a visa again in life time and it is a hell to get a visa stamped.

[indiasucksalways]

The U.S. gov't hands out visas like water. They rubber stamp them all without even checking. According to 2008 DHS Flow Report 408,000 came in from India alone in 2008, despite the law capping them at 65,000. There's zero enforcement, and this is a total TAKEOVER of our companies by India. They want Neilsen so they can sabotage the ratings of any show that opposes the Slumdog, Inc. agenda and takeover.

[uncommonscents]

This is an absolute disgrace and the demise of a once great American company. Like it or not this is giving Indian people a bad name. I'm sure if a bunch of "Visa"'d Americans paraded the halls of a company in India and plucked their jobs one by one that the Indian people would applaud it. To rub salt in the wound, the fired workers have to train their replacements to get their severance. It is a matter of time before someone goes postal in that place.

[BoycottNielsen]

The biggest lie about outsourcing is that sending jobs to other contries creates a stronger economy in the U.S., and in the long run, more jobs. Who are they kidding? What long run? 50 years? To who's benefit? Not the workers that's for sure. Outsourcing jobs, driving down wages, and higher unemployment is not good for the economy in the short term or long term.

[ashishszone]

Well, outsourcing does make a stronger economy in US. All these "foreign workers", when they earn in US currency, spends in US currency. They by nike, coke, mcD and all other US brand products. It not only adds to the profits of US corporations, if you see the statistics from past 5 year, most of the multinational US corporations are earning 10-30 percent of their profits from countries like India. If a US corp. can do that- that is build business in India, why can't a Indian corp. do that too?

[droman30]

Outsourcing does not made the economy stronger. It's no surprise you take this position considering you are from India and outsourcing has benefitted your people. If what you are saying is true (which it isn't) then there would not have been an "emergency stimulus" package put together by the US Government to encourage Americans to spend money. Outsourcing only benefits the bottom line of the corporations that abuse the H-1B visa program.

[bobbycarolina75]

India and China are miniscule consumer markets compared to the US.

[PammyG68]

You are right. How will we sustain out tax base? These people are CLUELESS!

[chinasucksforever]

One has to wonder just how much money the mayor took from Tata to promote Tata's agenda.

USA is becoming just like India where bribery and graft is the order of the day.

[ChicagoJoe57]

Why not? We already have the caste system here where the American Worker is on the lower end.

[chinasucksforever]

You have to laugh at India's tactics. Now that Dobbs has revealed the Indian frauds for what they are, the Indians want to get control of program ratings at Neilsen! If they can get jobs there, they can falsely trash the ratings of any show (such as Dobbs's) which speak out against Indian frauds. This is FOREIGN CONTROL of our media. I am sure Dobbs is aware of the implications. India is playing us for fools and manipulating our media to further their agenda. India out of USA NOW.

[ChicagoJoe57]

chinasucksforever, Love your nickname and agree with it. We should be as upset with this foreign takeover as we were about the Dubai Ports deal. Media and opinion is as important as cargo.

[ChicagoJoe57]

Lou Dobbs for President! Tata was a large contributor to Hillary's campaign. I, for one, will never listen to their global ratings again.

[mbawa2574]

All comments here including Dobb's smells communism. Companies have all rights to create efficencies to compete in global economy.If you push employers more than comapnies like Nielson will shut down their offices in US and go to more business friendly countries. Don't blackmail American companies and don't force them to say that they are global companies rather than American. No one pays $12000 in Tata. This is bullshit and hoax

[ChicagoJoe57]

Globalism is communism. I never met a globalist who could fight his way out of wet paper bag. Globalism is weak like the people who support it.

[RichMitchHabib]

Nielsen send out an email to their employees to give their side of the story ... they don't say they are bringing in these Indian programmers on just $12,000 a year. What do they want .... cheap labor, rich managers .... is that the kind of society they want? Shame on you Nielsen

[BoycottNielsen]

Nielsen executives will tell you they have not had an opportunity to tell their side of the story. Of course, what is being reported on Lou Dobbs is true and all that the Nielsen corporate gangsters want to do is spin the facts.

Nielsen was a profitable company before the new ownership group came in. They just want to squeeze 2-3% more profit at the expense of the individual, their families, the community, and your respective nations economy.

[ChicagoJoe57]

What kind of spin can they use? Oh, I forgot, the Tata will do the jobs Americans won't do, or, we could not find qualified Americans to do the job because we already fired them.

[pogularocky]

@ChicagoJoe57

No, this time the spin is that white Americans refuse to work at lower wages.

It is an open market system that US pushed onto the world and fought communism so vigorously against in the process. Now when US is in the receiving end of the same system, it starts to cry foul? Not fair. Shut the fuck up and eat up your karma.

In an open market, the guy who gets the job done at the cheapest cost will be rewarded. Say hello to your little friends... the Asians.

:)

[PammyG68]

@pogularocky - OK So what part of India are you from? Oh by the way, your understanding of economic is almost nil "Refusing to work for lower wages", that has nothing to do with it - it is all supply and demand and that is what H1B is about - increasing the supply to lower the wage - at the expense of quality. And no, the economy is not "global" because as Americans we cannot go work in another country on a whim - most countries have figured out that their labor for IS their economy.

[pogularocky]

@PammyG68

It is because people like you refuse to understand the ground reality, your country is not the so called "Industrial Leader" anymore. Nor is your "service economy" the best in the world any more.

If Americans had any good understanding of the economy, you would not be in the mess you are in today while India & China registered 9% & 10% GDP growth throughout the past 3 years.

Why are you so interested in my origins? LOL... How does that matter on youtube?

[PammyG68]

Yes Rocky, how does that matter on youtube and why are you SOOOOO obsessed with it. Your country is not a leader and never was..