@cwilli2786 This verse it is called the "Johnnanine comma" Look it up and you will know what i do for it. Or just find the video I made for it on this site.
(1) God Raised Jesus Acts 2:32 (2) Holy Spirit raised Christ Romans 8:11 (3) Jesus raised Jesus John 2:19-22
The Holy Spirit is labeled as 'HE' so therefore the Holy Spirit is not a 'what'
For all of these verses to be true with no contradiction they all have to be CORRECT. This literally means that each of these entities had to raise Christ from the dead or else the bible is a lie.
@THERAPTURECOMES He is from autos which can mean it, they, them, he, her, etc. Jesus told youi what the holy Spirit is in Luke. (Luk 24:49 KJV) And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Christ = He, God the Father = He. Holy Spirit = He.
You don't just look at the meaning of the word by it's dictionary meaning. You ust look at it in context as it is used in the verse or scripture. Exegetic's 101
@THERAPTURECOMES I hate to tell you guy I ignore the modern definition and only look to it word usage. Exogetics is for the blind like yourself who can not even dream of refuting me who only shows your contradictions. You can not deny a contradiction which means you can not deny me which is why you are here.
@THERAPTURECOMES (1) God Raised Jesus Acts 2:32 (2) Holy Spirit raised Christ Romans 8:11 (3) Jesus raised Jesus John 2:19-22
God who you suggested was the Father because that is what he is called Gave Jesus the Holy Spirit which raised him from the dead Jesus said the Spirit quickens the dead. The Holy Spirit is not a person it is power.
@ProveYourFaith You should've seen me debate with Ichiddle and iamTOTALLYredeemed on my video regarding "Why is Jesus Referred to as a Stone Sometimes?" Neither of them were able to prove that Isaiah 8:14 was referring to Yahweh and couldn't at all refer back to the one named Immanuel. They just insisted it was. Exegesis - critical explanation or interpretation of a text or portion of a text, especially of the Bible.
Eisegesis - interpreter's own ideas. They both accused me of the second one.
@THERAPTURECOMES You are aware He is from the Greek autos which can mean anything as a pronoun it they them they her he his etc. You are aware the Spirit is given in measure and Jesus himself said it was power from on high. The Spirit of wisdom the spirit of knowledge etc.
Look, either give me Scriptural reference for Abraham, Angels, Moses, the rulers of Israel being called GOD or quit responding with your personal beliefs. We are not interested in your belief system.
There is NO Scripture that calls any of these references of yours GOD.
Too much error on here...we don't need yours also.
(Exo 22:28) Thou shalt not revile the gods (Elohim), nor curse the ruler of thy people.
(Exo 7:1) And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god (Elohim) to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
(Exo 21:6) Then his master shall bring him unto the judges (Elohim); he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.
The references you gave me have definate articles or plurality with Elohim.
a god, gods, not just GOD.
Scripture teaches there are "CALLED" gods in Scripture and a god in Scripture, but there is only ONE GOD who is not "CALLED a god, but IS GOD. He is the Creator and Almighty.
Calling something a god does not make it GOD by nature.
If there is three cops they are called the police.
Same with Elohim ONE ELOHIM
(1Co 15:28) And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
That verse says, "that God may be all in all." Not Father may be all in all.
Thats what you see when you look at that verse...It does not say that. .
To you God means only>Father ... You have your Watchtower glasses on & interpret Scripture through them.
To me the word God means>Father, Son & Holy Spirit; unless Scripture spaciffically identifies the One being referred to is God the Father, Son or Holy Spirit.
@digger629 I am not an Arain. (1Co 15:28) And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Notice the son gives what is put under him by the Father back to the Father. There is a clear separation between the two. Jesus will give the earth to the Father so the Father can be all in all.
@ProveYourFaith Isa 40:3 shows us that one of the members of the Godhead (Jehovah our God) emptied himself to become our kinsman redeemer (he that was rich became poor for our sake) he would die and rise again to become our sympathetic priest. He would then be our mediator between God and man. Being our advocate before the throne of God and operating in that capacity until all things are reconciled, then God will become all in all once again.
You do not know what the Christian doctrine of the Trinity really is. Why don't you read these posts here so you can learn something.
Within the nature of the ONE TRUE GOD, there are 3 distinct persons; each one shares the same attributes; & in effect the 3 persons are the ONE GOD. We are not saying that they are each other.
I never said that the Father was not the one true God...I believe He is. I also believe that the Son & the Holy Spirit are the ONE TRUE GOD also.
@digger629 (Gen 23:6) Hear us, my lord: thou art a mighty( Elohim) prince among us: in the choice of our sepulchres bury thy dead; none of us shall withhold from thee his sepulchre, but that thou mayest bury thy dead.
Elohim is the primary word translated God. This is how the word God was used in Moses day. Notice it does not mean deity! The biggest problem of the Church today is their false definitions of words.
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity is this:> Within the nature of the ONE GOD, there are three distinct persons, Father, Son, & Holy Spirit. These three share the same attributes & in effect are the ONE GOD.
The Father is not the Son or Holy Spirit - the Son is not the Father or Holy Spirit - The Holy Spirit is not the Father or Son.
"A god is any object that is worshipped." All the kings of Israel was worshiped and called God. If I can prove this will you repent of the false trinity?
Yes, If you can prove Scripturally that ALL the Kings of Israel were called GOD, I will repent of my defense of the Trinity and join your Cultic group.
If you can't, ...You admit to me you were wrong, repent of all your sins, believe Jesus is God, accept what He did for mankind by dying on the cross and accept Him as Lord & Saviour & live for Him the rest of your life.
(Gen 24:26) And the man bowed down his head, and worshipped( sha^cha^h) the LORD.
(Deu 17:3) And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped(sha^cha^h) them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded.
(Gen 42:6) And Joseph was the governor over the land, and he it was that sold to all the people of the land: and Joseph's brethren came, and bowed down themselves (sha^cha^h) before him with their faces to the earth
Most people who attack the Biblical doctrine of the Trinity do not really know what it is.
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity states that there are 3 persons in Scripture that all claim to be the ONE TRUE GOD or are called the ONE TRUE GOD.
We Christians do not believe in more than one God & do not believe that the Father is just another name for the Son or that the Holy Spirit is Jesus the Son in another mode, but that there are 3 distinct persons in the Godhead.
Actually to deny the trinity is to deny the fundamental definition of God, man, and many things in creation that express Him. As surely as God chose 3 people of 3 names to represent Him(one person) whom EACH picture an aspect of God and as surely as God is seen ONLY in the 3 forms that make up Him(God) it is clear God is triune and from such a model we know why being led of the flesh is wicked when their is authority in the placement of the 3 parts. Without soul, body, and spirit Im not.
@ProveYourFaith Paul addresses the soul, body, and spirit when referring to the whole well being of men and refers to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit when referring to God. In fact we are not to be led by the flesh...never does it say deny the flesh nature exists or deny and renounce that you are flesh...if we are not led by the flesh which is what we are then what else is there to be led by if we are not multi-unit beings in His likeness. Dont despise wisdom or her daughters will reject you.
@ProveYourFaith I mean imagine getting the instruction manual wrong for your car or a house there would be problems. if the text says something thats what it says
we cant just take out or explain away what it means because it doesnt work for us, I dont completly understand it but im not gonna pretend it doesnt
"O People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), do not commit excess in your religion or say about God except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a Messenger of God and His Word which He directed to Mary and a Spirit [created at a command] from Him. So believe in God and His messengers. AND DO NOT SAY, "THREE" (a Trinity); desist it is better for you. Indeed, God is but ONE God. Exalted is He above having a son." QURAN 4:171
It does not matter what you call it, God is three distinct persons but at the same time one God. It is a mystery that has not been revealed to all yet, as Jesus said in Mat 11:27 & Luk 10:22. Who was Jesus praying to in Mat 26:39? Who is the Father , son and Holy Ghost? Mat 28:19Jesus said he sent the Holy Ghost to us -here- on earth to live with us, that is separate from the Father. Why don't you get it? The word "bible" is not in the scriptures either but that is what we call it.
Jesus said "the Father is greater than i" John 14:28, Jesus was created Col 1:15 & Rev 3:14, Jesus was obedient to God John12:49 and at Jesus death he asked if it is possible for this cup to be taken from him but not by his will but by Gods Matt 26:39 and we all know it is impossible for God to lie so why when Moses asked to see him did he say that no man may see me and yet live Ex 33:20 and yet thousands of people saw Jesus who supposedly is God and they lived why not do the same for Moses
I am sorry for people like you who throw out 2000 years of BASIC Christian foundation. Do you really believe that you and these others have come across some SPECIAL knowledge of the truth and the rest are wrong? Is your faith that shipwrecked? Understanding the God-head is kind of like understanding physics and it takes faith to know that Gods word is true about this. I and my Father are one. Jesus meant that literally. Jesus is God.
Yes, i do believe to have found the truth. Just because a doctrine is old does not make it correct, there were false prophets sneaking in to the congregations in the apostles time so as if it wouldn't happen after their death. If you read any history on this subject you will see that there has been opponents to the trinity doctrine since its inception. And as for faith it should not be blind Heb 11:1
So why do you take verses out of context and completely IGNORE the multitude of others that clearly present the truth. My revelation on this matter is complete. It is you who needs help. I pray God will reveal Himself to you. Luk 10:22. Isa 41:4, Isa 43: 10-11, Isa 44:6, Rev 22:12-13.
I dont think you heard clearly what that preacher in the video and many other so called trinity scholars have said, (there are NO scriptures that clearly present the trinity) thts why you all revert to the saying you just have to have faith. I dont beleive you even read those scriptures i sent that disproves the trinity because if your revelation is as complete as you say you would be able to tell me what your interpretation of them not quote scripture that says God is 1 which is what im saying!
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The early Christian father, Eusebius, noted that "In these words (Moses) names first God Most High, the Supreme God of the universe, and then as Lord, His Word, Whom we call Lord in the second degree after the God of the universe" (Eusebius, Proof of the Gospel IV.9). This is how Paul could emphasize, when rejecting many gods of the Roman world, that for Christians there was one God, the Father, AND one Lord, Jesus Christ (1 Coringthians 8:6).
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"The Old Testament was read as the record of two deities: God Most High and his Son Yahweh...Philo emphasized this...Philo implies there that some had mistakenly identified the Logos [Yahweh/Jesus] as God Most High" (Margaret Barker, a Biblical scholar who is *not* a Latter-day Saint, "Temple Themes In Christian Worship," p.79).
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"Say (O Muhammad ): O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allâh, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allâh. Then, if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are Muslims. " [The Noble Qur'an 3:64]
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My friend you are sadly wrong. Do realize that denying the deity of Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God the Father, is denying God Himself. For as Jesus says "I and the Father are One". All truths point to the trinity, Jesus is God. True Christians follow all Biblical truth, not adding or denying and written word inspired by the only one true God. There are no contradictions in the Holy Bible. If you think there are, then you simply do not have any understanding of the teaching.
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The JW's came to my home and by the time I was done testifying to them, all they wanted to do is leave, and they didn't come back. Because they couldn't hack it, and handle all the doctrines I showed them. One more thing. The JW's don't have the same organization of the church of Christ that was outlined in Ephesians.
@ProveYourFaith And what else are the Jehovas Witness right about their concept of Yeshua Too? I find myself asking the Question that Pilot asked what is truth?I have a Catholic friend he claims they put the cannons of the bible together they decided what was inspired by the holy spirit and M.Luther change the bible 1500 years latter. WHAT IS TRUTH?
The have the word Elohim right but Jesus is not Micheal the angel. Your friend is referring to the Apocrypha that was removed by the reformists. Jesus said strengthen what remains. He also said few will find it. God is the truth when you begin to uncover it you get closer to him.
Why does Jesus teach us? Mat 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, [even] to the end of the age." Amen.
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God didn't just create Jews and Christians in the Middle East. He created ALL mankind. He caused the Jews to be scattered into the crowds of the Gentiles. So did He just write those scattered Jews off as "unsaved" just because they had lost access to the scriptures due to their initial disobedience? Is there no balm in Gilead for them as well? Or was it just for people living in and around Jerusalem and in the area of the 7 churches mentioned in Revelation?
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Matthew 18:7 Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but WOE TO THAT MAN through whom the stumbling block comes!
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Christians look to the LDS, NOT MORMONS, for guidance! LDS have done more for the poor than the entire combined tribe of Judah.
YAH left your temple long before King Nebuchanezzar came and shackled your ancestors just as UZIZAH the prophet testified, and your ancestors had him slain, just like Isaiah, just like Jeremiah. You reject GOD, and you follow vain traditions, but you are no closer to God at this moment in your life, than the pharisees that killed Christ!
[LDS have done more for the poor than the entire combined tribe of Judah]...
[your temple]...
[your ancestors]...
[your ancestors had him slain]...
[You reject GOD]...
[you follow vain traditions]...
[you are no closer to God]...
[in your life]...
YAH DOES NOT RESIDE IN 'A TEMPLE' MADE BY MANS HANDS thus your abomination before YAH that you all have built DOES NOT give YOU OR YOUR RELIGION any right to judge any jew for The LDS CHURCH is The Legalism' of today borrowed from Jewry of yesterday!
What of the Jewish prophecies that the temple would return, but restored, brought back? What you Jews going to do with it once it is? Do you even know what type of rituals, if any, will be done in it? What does your prophets say? Is your YAH concerned about other people in other lands, or just one race?
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אני יודע בוודאות, כי אדמות של הספר של המורמונים מגיעים גואטמלה. כל הראיות מצביעות על צאצאיהם של מאיה. מקדש ענק של Mirador בהחלט נמצא שם המשיח הופיע האגדה על Quetzacoatl נולד.
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"ישר בלב, שמרגישים כי הממלכה האמיתית של אלוהים צריך אישורים מיוחדים ורב עוצמה, ולא רק להיות עוד קול בקהל, לא ייעלם מאוכזב מן בדיקה של התביעות עדויות של ספר המורמונים ".
The trinity or the formula set down by the council of Nicene, 325, is not biblical. Even the Fathers & Emperor admit this: See Dr. Huge Nibley's comments on You Tube: Restored Apologetics: Contrasting LDS & Early Christian Versions of Deification #4.
Many early church fathers also admit that the spiritual gifts were fading out of the church, although the hoped that they could preserve them. Without prophets, eventually dialectic arts of debate, became popular way to argue out creeds.
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...it seems that proveyourfaith isn't interested in comments foreign to his own... kinda defeats the purpose of letting folks "prove their faith" if he lets their comments get voted into obscurity. *rolls eyes*
I'm curious what you said on his video that ws unpopular! ... lol, it was about the trinity? What was your take? I personally don't recognize it as biblical but more like a "theory" decided upon by a group of men.
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OK prove your faith. You win, since you dont want people to see the truth. The world is waiting for your big announcement of Elijah the prophet to yet fulfil MALACHI!
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Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
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What do we know about Malachi's prophecy about Elijah coming back? The Jews suggest that he is still supposed to return by setting an extra plate at their table during the "passover." ... but only one Church has recorded a visit from this prophet as he came to the temple in Kirtland, Ohio to visit the prophet Joseph Smith.
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Behold, I will send my messenger(Joseph Smith), and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts. (Malachi 3:1, 2-5)
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13 After this vision had closed, another great and glorious vision burst upon us; for Elijah the prophet, who was taken to heaven without tasting death, stood before us, and said:
14 Behold, the time has fully come, which was spoken of by the mouth of Malachi—testifying that he [Elijah] should be sent, before the great and dreadful day of the Lord come—
15 To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the children to the fathers, lest the whole earth be smitten with a curse—
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The word of the Lord came again to me saying,
Moreover thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions; then take another stick and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions.
And Join them one to another into one stick, and they shall become one in thine hand.
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Behold, this is wisdom in Me; wherefore, marvel not, for the hour cometh that I will drink of the fruit of the vine with you on the earth, and with Moroni, whom I have sent unto you to reveal the Book of Mormon, containing the fulness of my everlasting gospel, to whom I have committed the keys of the record of the "stick of Ephraim."
The book of Mormon is the word of God and I testify that you had better investigate, and the Lord will ask you if you did in mortality.
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Bunch of ignorantes put thumbs down on my comments, because they take the truth to be too hard for them. But they refuse to do the research and investigate,all those claims I have made on this site!
unpopular opinions aren't permitted to remain on here, I guess.
Its amazing how the seed of Joseph wasn't heard from again in the Bible, despite the grand blessings given to them via the birthright by Jacob, the patriarch. The Bible doesn't know what happened to those folks. They would be a fruitful bough insomuch that the land of Israel could not contain them. They would be separated from their bretheren but not many are interested to know about their whereabouts? (Gen 49:22-26, Deut Ch 33)
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And he gave some apostles and some, prophets...for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry...Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God...
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What's ridiculous is your refusal to look at the facts. And you cannot even answer a simple question. Jesus Christ told them that he is the GREAT I AM and you wanna be in denial. Go ahead. It's your spiritual death.
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God the Father since the beginning. The almighty Elohim gave all responsibility over our earth to Jesus Christ. In the pre mortal life, Christ is the one speaking to Moses.
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I can understand it's harder for you non LDS to understand, because we have Abraham's writings and accept them and know exactly what he was taught, and you don't.
The Father tho exists really didn't do much concerning us, Its been Jesus Christ in his pre mortal state the WHOLE time. Jesus Christ is the I AM. I am not sure if you are jewish or christian or what, but I will send you a 2 part video and I ask you comment, sir or mam.
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Adam-ondi-Ahman is the subject of a revelation recorded in the LDS edition of the Doctrine and Covenants, a book of scripture within the Latter Day Saint movement: "Spring Hill is named by the Lord Adam-ondi-Ahman, because, said he, it is the place where Adam shall come to visit his people, or the Ancient of Days shall sit, as spoken of by Daniel the prophet."
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Adam-ondi-Ahman
Prior to his death, the repentant Adam held a meeting of his faithful posterity in a valley designated "Adam-ondhi-Ahman:"
53 Three years previous to the death of Adam, he called Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch, and Methuselah, who were all high priests, with the residue of his posterity who were righteous, into the valley of Adam-ondi-Ahman, and there bestowed upon them his last blessing.
54 And the Lord appeared unto them, and they rose up and blessed Adam, and called him Michael, the prince, the archangel.
55 And the Lord administered comfort unto Adam, and said unto him: I have set thee to be at the head; a multitude of nations shall come of thee, and thou art a prince over them forever.
56 And Adam stood up in the midst of the congregation; and, notwithstanding he was bowed down with age, being full of the Holy Ghost, predicted whatsoever should befall his posterity unto the latest generation. (D&C 107:53)
not sure what version of the bible, you are using, but the King James version is more clear than yours.
Trinity doctrine that Jesus Christ is all three rolled into one HUMAN form. is trinity doctrine. Yes that is correct. It is not in the bible. But has a Henotheist, There are Gods in the multiverse, And god the Father Created Jesus Christ and the Rest of us. but Christ, being our first born created of us all is our Alpha, and our Omega, and He said I am that I am to Moses.
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Moses asked the Lord "By what name shall we refer to Thee?!"
And the Lord answered "I am that I am."
John 8:57 Then said the Jews unto Him, "Thou art not yet fifty years old, and thou hast seen Abraham?"
8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily Verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
LDS know who the YAH people are, and we are the birthright people thru the seed of Joseph, last born of Jacob, and the one with the coat of many colors.
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You must repent and become a disciple of jesus christ in order to be saved, but in doing so, accept his living prophet and representative on the earth today.
the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has laid the foundation of the church of Christ once more!
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Ezra Taft Benson declared that Mary had a virgin birth, and Ezra Taft Benson was a prophet of the Lord.
Joseph Smith may have had multiple marriages, however, they were ONLY on paper, and it wasn't about sex. Anti-mormon literature only trues to implicate it as such, which is blatently false.
1st. How does Genesis.1:26 prove GOD is a trinity?
2nd. Why isn't there any clear text that show with certainty that GOD is a trinity?
3rd. Abraham, Moses, the Prophets, King David, Jesus, Peter, Paul etc... none of them taught the doctrine of the trinity, that GOD was 3 in stead of 1.
They all taught that GOD is 1, and that there in no GOD but Him. Exodus.20:2-5, Mark.12:29,32
The word is not, The doctrine is! explaine Gen 1:26, WHo Is Us? IN OUR image? Your a Jehovah witness? Look I don't care what this man says. I have the Holy Spirit with in me revealing the truth of Scripture and all things to come. The Word of God IN John 1. It is reavealed to those are chosen. IN faith JM
In what name aka authority did John The Baptist baptize men and Yeshua' (Jesus) in?
Where does John The Baptist baptize in 'a trinitas' name?
If its not written then it is of mens minds that profane YAH' WORD and HIS SON Yeshua' Ben YaHVeH that They say that They are like 'Christ', this is what Yeshua' warned everyone of but christian trinitarians are too blind to see...
And... They cannot read The Errors of Their Ways cause Their Ears have been filled with The Lies of Adverse Daftness!
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The Catholics didn't create the divinity of christ. However Christ proved his divinity in mortality, and the mission of the apostles which were appointed thru ORDINATION as was Moses' friend Aaron to preach the world of his divinity.
Yes... The Pagan Trinitas Doctrine IS NOT biblical and yes the vision of Stephen is clear with nothing implied but The Truth that YAH IS CENTER OF HIS THRONE and HIS SON Yeshua' Ben YaHVeH is YAH' RIGHT HAND OF AUTHORITY aka MEDIATOR between YAH' CREATION and YAH' THRONE but...
Q: THE ONE PURPOSE you report of IS IT YAH' PURPOSE IN PURPOSING?
Q: Or are you likewise claiming 'a duality' of YAH' PURPOSE?
Q: WHOSE POWER ALONE is bringing about the immortality and eternal life of man?
22 Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences (humankind) that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many great and noble ones;
23 And God saw these souls that they were good, and he stood in the midst of them, and he said "These I will make my rulers; for he stood among those that were spirits, and he saw that they were good; and he said unto me "Abraham, thou wast chosen before thou wast born."
24 And there stood ONE among them that was LIKE UNTO GOD, and he said unto those who were with him "We will go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these materials, and we will make an earth whereon we may dwell."
25 And we will prove them herewith, to see if they will do all things whatsoever the Lord their God shall command them;
Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh, forordained before the world was to redeem mankind from the fall of Adam. He was like unto God, and God, tho created by the Father, like us, he is the eldest brother of us all in the pre mortal existence. Christ is the Jehovah of the Old Testament, and taught Abraham and Moses, and all rights to the earth have been delegated to Christ by the Eternal Father. And his authority ordained the apostles, but they apostles were rejeted and killed.
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The original church fell into Hellenistic views of Plato, and with the apostles gone, the doctrines of infant baptism, the trinity, purgatory, creeds, transubstantiation, indulgences, and all sorts of things not biblical.
the twelve apostles represented the foundation of the church which supported the body of the church by REVELATION, which was given to Peter when asked who Christ is/was. Revelation is what the gates of hell shall not prevail against.
but they had the bible but there weren't any prophets hearing or recieving revelation FOR A TIME.
But Joseph Smith changed all this, he saw God the Father and the Son, and conversed with them, and Peter, james, and John the ancient apostles, appeared to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery and laid their hands on them and ordained them and RESTORED THE KEYS OF THE PRIESTOOD OF MECHEZIDEK.
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I also already told you that the Elias that which is to precede the coming of the Messiah in great Glory would come, Already has come, and put his hands on Joseph smith and there were about twenty people present that witnessed that day.
Or according to Malachi the whole earth would utterly by wasted at His coming.
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I also told you, I am from Ephraim and of the birthright, and it says that Judah shall not vex Ephraim neither Ephraim envy Judah.
Why?
Because Judah missed the mark. Read the ancient Semitic text translated for our knowledge of the ONE true God today known as the book of Mormon for yourself.
Q: Doesn't, "upon this rock I will build my church" mean upon this foundational principal I will build YAH' PEOPLE up by vs. a building of organized constituents?
Q: Was Yeshua' (Christ) referring to the soul or the spirit of YAH' ORIGINAL TEMPLE being built by Solomon?
Q: So are The Disciples Of Yeshua' (Christ) ChurchGoers or A Covenanted People?
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The original church I was referring to is the church of JESUS CHRIST, that fulfilled the Law of Moses in his final sacrifice as the lamb of God.
Christ formed a church and it was to be built upon the foundation of Apostles and Prophets that WITH ordination they could continue REVELATION and HEAR the audible voice of the Lord.
Notice I keep mentioning that the church of Jesus Christ that was Restored has this.
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In Matthew the question put to peter is "Who am I?"
And the Eternal Father in Heaven revealed via REVELATION to Peter the answer. And that is the Rock which the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against.
It is a mere interpretation to say it's "YAH PEOPLE" I haven't seen a Jewish prophet in our day or since before the days of Christ. yet in the Church of JESUS CHRIST that was ordained thru ancient apostles Peter, James and John there is continued Revelation.
Are adopted into the House of Israel, and those that are of the seed of Joseph (not Joseph Smith), but the Joseph that was sold into slavery, and earned the birthright back in that day heard the spirit of God first, and we're sharing it with the world. I am from the tribe of Joseph thru Ephraim and you should read the testament that teaches the Jew and the gentile that Jesus is the messiah.
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This testament is a branch of the house of Israel and dates clear back to the days of Isaiah and Jeremiah, and is true and they have found Hebrew words in abundance in todays Guatemala, because of the influence of some of the first settlers to that area as they practiced the law of moses, but degerated into a blood thirsty Mayan culture, but the pre classic Maya have proof that they practiced baptism, circumcision, and sacrifice.
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Believe me when I say, we aren't protestants, and Joseph wasn't a member of any church prior to the re founding of the church of J.C.
that is how it all got started. We know that God and Christ are two beings, but one in purpose, and that is what Christ meant when he said I and the Father are One. Trinitarians don't teach this.
Regardless though You and The Trinitarians have this in common that you both believe that YAH spoken of in The Old Testament is Yeshua' Messiah (Jesus Christ) in The New Testament this is clearly A Pagan Concept of Incarnating A Divine Deity into A Man this is profane to YAH' COMMANDS in The Old Testament for YAH DOES NOT CHANGE nor IS YAH a man...
This is a common misnomer that transubstantiation and incarnation are natural concepts but ARE FORBIDDEN TO YAH' PEOPLE!
..."will you please show me another human in the Bible that has the same characteristics as Jesus and is called God?"
Same characteristics? The trinity is what this video questions not the Messiahship of Yeshua' being The Son Of YAH (God)...
Thomas adequately identifies Yeshua' as My Messiah (Lord), My Elohym (God) among all of YAH' CREATED Human Beings for no other man has been resurrected from the dead like He, Yeshua' was, this DOES NOT make Yeshua' God but The Only Son Of YAH...
So what do you do with 1 John 5:7? Angels are not like men. We aren't in the image of angels though they did witness creation
cwilli2786 5 months ago
@cwilli2786 This verse it is called the "Johnnanine comma" Look it up and you will know what i do for it. Or just find the video I made for it on this site.
ProveYourFaith 5 months ago
Who RESURRECTED CHRIST?
THERAPTURECOMES 6 months ago
@THERAPTURECOMES His FATHER!
ProveYourFaith 6 months ago
@ProveYourFaith
And who else?
THERAPTURECOMES 6 months ago
@THERAPTURECOMES You mean what else not who. The Spirit of the Father.
ProveYourFaith 6 months ago
@ProveYourFaith
(1) God Raised Jesus Acts 2:32 (2) Holy Spirit raised Christ Romans 8:11 (3) Jesus raised Jesus John 2:19-22
The Holy Spirit is labeled as 'HE' so therefore the Holy Spirit is not a 'what'
For all of these verses to be true with no contradiction they all have to be CORRECT. This literally means that each of these entities had to raise Christ from the dead or else the bible is a lie.
This is the singular plurality of God = TRINITY
THERAPTURECOMES 6 months ago
@THERAPTURECOMES He is from autos which can mean it, they, them, he, her, etc. Jesus told youi what the holy Spirit is in Luke. (Luk 24:49 KJV) And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
How can a he be given in measure? Wake up.
ProveYourFaith 6 months ago
@ProveYourFaith
All angels = MALES, Trinity = Male. Singular plurality = trinity.
Christ = He, God the Father = He. Holy Spirit = He.
You don't just look at the meaning of the word by it's dictionary meaning. You ust look at it in context as it is used in the verse or scripture. Exegetic's 101
THERAPTURECOMES 5 months ago
@THERAPTURECOMES I hate to tell you guy I ignore the modern definition and only look to it word usage. Exogetics is for the blind like yourself who can not even dream of refuting me who only shows your contradictions. You can not deny a contradiction which means you can not deny me which is why you are here.
ProveYourFaith 5 months ago
@ProveYourFaith
You say that after I give you three verses telling us that all three in the trinity raised Christ from the dead? Scary.
THERAPTURECOMES 5 months ago
@THERAPTURECOMES (1) God Raised Jesus Acts 2:32 (2) Holy Spirit raised Christ Romans 8:11 (3) Jesus raised Jesus John 2:19-22
God who you suggested was the Father because that is what he is called Gave Jesus the Holy Spirit which raised him from the dead Jesus said the Spirit quickens the dead. The Holy Spirit is not a person it is power.
ProveYourFaith 5 months ago
@ProveYourFaith You should've seen me debate with Ichiddle and iamTOTALLYredeemed on my video regarding "Why is Jesus Referred to as a Stone Sometimes?" Neither of them were able to prove that Isaiah 8:14 was referring to Yahweh and couldn't at all refer back to the one named Immanuel. They just insisted it was. Exegesis - critical explanation or interpretation of a text or portion of a text, especially of the Bible.
Eisegesis - interpreter's own ideas. They both accused me of the second one.
Danielezerable 1 month ago
@THERAPTURECOMES You are aware He is from the Greek autos which can mean anything as a pronoun it they them they her he his etc. You are aware the Spirit is given in measure and Jesus himself said it was power from on high. The Spirit of wisdom the spirit of knowledge etc.
ProveYourFaith 5 months ago
The Church did not create the doctrine of the Trinity, ... Scripture did and does over and over.
Scripture says, there is only ONE GOD
Scripture calls the Father GOD
Scripture calls the Son God
Scripture calls the Holy Spirit God
One God in 3 persons ... That is Scripture!
digger629 1 year ago
@digger629
The scripture calls Abraham God
The scripture calls Angels God
The scripture calls Moses God
The scriptures call the rulers of Israel God
I think you missed a few!
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith
You are in error again...Learn to interpret your Bible before you try and defend it.
Sarah, Abrahams wife called him lord...NOT GOD!
Angels were called gods...not God!
Moses was called a god...not God!
The Scriptures called the rulers of Israel gods...not God!
1 Cor 8:5-6> For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God,
digger629 1 year ago
@digger629
I was referring Sarah
What idiot still falls for the little g ? There is no lowercase in Elohim! There is no big God and little god.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith
I'll tell you what idiot falls for the little g ... Millions of Jehovah Witnesses.
Stop playing games with me, I don't have time for this.
You read my posts
I believe Jesus is BIG GOD (TRUE GOD)
I believe the Father is BIB GOD (TRUE GOD)
I believe the Holy Spirit is BIG GOD (TRUE GOD)
Anyone other than those 3 are either false gods or so-called-gods ...not Deity.
digger629 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith
Look, either give me Scriptural reference for Abraham, Angels, Moses, the rulers of Israel being called GOD or quit responding with your personal beliefs. We are not interested in your belief system.
There is NO Scripture that calls any of these references of yours GOD.
Too much error on here...we don't need yours also.
digger629 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith
(Exo 22:28) Thou shalt not revile the gods (Elohim), nor curse the ruler of thy people.
(Exo 7:1) And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god (Elohim) to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
(Exo 21:6) Then his master shall bring him unto the judges (Elohim); he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.
On and on men are also called El.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith
(Joh 10:35) If he called them gods (Theos from Elohim), unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
(Psa 82:6) I have said, Ye are gods (Elohim); and all of you are children of the most High.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith
You are claiming something that is false.
The references you gave me have definate articles or plurality with Elohim.
a god, gods, not just GOD.
Scripture teaches there are "CALLED" gods in Scripture and a god in Scripture, but there is only ONE GOD who is not "CALLED a god, but IS GOD. He is the Creator and Almighty.
Calling something a god does not make it GOD by nature.
digger629 1 year ago
@digger629
You simply are unable to put it together.
If there is one cop he is called the police
If there is three cops they are called the police.
Same with Elohim ONE ELOHIM
(1Co 15:28) And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith
That verse says, "that God may be all in all." Not Father may be all in all.
Thats what you see when you look at that verse...It does not say that. .
To you God means only>Father ... You have your Watchtower glasses on & interpret Scripture through them.
To me the word God means>Father, Son & Holy Spirit; unless Scripture spaciffically identifies the One being referred to is God the Father, Son or Holy Spirit.
Try and remember that.
digger629 1 year ago
@digger629 I am not an Arain. (1Co 15:28) And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Notice the son gives what is put under him by the Father back to the Father. There is a clear separation between the two. Jesus will give the earth to the Father so the Father can be all in all.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith
I will repeat what is in my post above yours... That verse does not say, "THAT THE FATHER MAY BE ALL IN ALL. Thats how you are interpreting it.
It says, THAT GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.
Will you at least admit that? Yes or no?
digger629 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith Isa 40:3 shows us that one of the members of the Godhead (Jehovah our God) emptied himself to become our kinsman redeemer (he that was rich became poor for our sake) he would die and rise again to become our sympathetic priest. He would then be our mediator between God and man. Being our advocate before the throne of God and operating in that capacity until all things are reconciled, then God will become all in all once again.
Hunley1961 1 year ago
@digger629 Jesus said the Father was the only ONE true God. Are you calling him a liar?
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
You do not know what the Christian doctrine of the Trinity really is. Why don't you read these posts here so you can learn something.
Within the nature of the ONE TRUE GOD, there are 3 distinct persons; each one shares the same attributes; & in effect the 3 persons are the ONE GOD. We are not saying that they are each other.
I never said that the Father was not the one true God...I believe He is. I also believe that the Son & the Holy Spirit are the ONE TRUE GOD also.
digger629 1 year ago
@digger629 (Gen 23:6) Hear us, my lord: thou art a mighty( Elohim) prince among us: in the choice of our sepulchres bury thy dead; none of us shall withhold from thee his sepulchre, but that thou mayest bury thy dead.
Elohim is the primary word translated God. This is how the word God was used in Moses day. Notice it does not mean deity! The biggest problem of the Church today is their false definitions of words.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
A god is any object that is worshipped.
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity is this:> Within the nature of the ONE GOD, there are three distinct persons, Father, Son, & Holy Spirit. These three share the same attributes & in effect are the ONE GOD.
The Father is not the Son or Holy Spirit - the Son is not the Father or Holy Spirit - The Holy Spirit is not the Father or Son.
digger629 1 year ago
@digger629
"A god is any object that is worshipped." All the kings of Israel was worshiped and called God. If I can prove this will you repent of the false trinity?
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith
Yes, If you can prove Scripturally that ALL the Kings of Israel were called GOD, I will repent of my defense of the Trinity and join your Cultic group.
If you can't, ...You admit to me you were wrong, repent of all your sins, believe Jesus is God, accept what He did for mankind by dying on the cross and accept Him as Lord & Saviour & live for Him the rest of your life.
Fair enough?
digger629 1 year ago
@digger629
(Gen 24:26) And the man bowed down his head, and worshipped( sha^cha^h) the LORD.
(Deu 17:3) And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped(sha^cha^h) them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded.
(Gen 42:6) And Joseph was the governor over the land, and he it was that sold to all the people of the land: and Joseph's brethren came, and bowed down themselves (sha^cha^h) before him with their faces to the earth
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@innoire
Begotten means born from the dead.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
Most people who attack the Biblical doctrine of the Trinity do not really know what it is.
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity states that there are 3 persons in Scripture that all claim to be the ONE TRUE GOD or are called the ONE TRUE GOD.
We Christians do not believe in more than one God & do not believe that the Father is just another name for the Son or that the Holy Spirit is Jesus the Son in another mode, but that there are 3 distinct persons in the Godhead.
digger629 1 year ago
@digger629
Most people who believe the trinity do not understand what a God is.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
Actually to deny the trinity is to deny the fundamental definition of God, man, and many things in creation that express Him. As surely as God chose 3 people of 3 names to represent Him(one person) whom EACH picture an aspect of God and as surely as God is seen ONLY in the 3 forms that make up Him(God) it is clear God is triune and from such a model we know why being led of the flesh is wicked when their is authority in the placement of the 3 parts. Without soul, body, and spirit Im not.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
@jamlimited3
Wow throw your bible away then no one believed in a Trinity there.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith Paul addresses the soul, body, and spirit when referring to the whole well being of men and refers to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit when referring to God. In fact we are not to be led by the flesh...never does it say deny the flesh nature exists or deny and renounce that you are flesh...if we are not led by the flesh which is what we are then what else is there to be led by if we are not multi-unit beings in His likeness. Dont despise wisdom or her daughters will reject you.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
smarty pants what does this verse mean
the bible is god's revelation or it is not
same words as john 1:1
DOESTHEBIBLESAYTHAT 1 year ago
@DOESTHEBIBLESAYTHAT LOL "smarty pants"
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@ProveYourFaith I mean imagine getting the instruction manual wrong for your car or a house there would be problems. if the text says something thats what it says
we cant just take out or explain away what it means because it doesnt work for us, I dont completly understand it but im not gonna pretend it doesnt
DOESTHEBIBLESAYTHAT 1 year ago
"O People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), do not commit excess in your religion or say about God except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a Messenger of God and His Word which He directed to Mary and a Spirit [created at a command] from Him. So believe in God and His messengers. AND DO NOT SAY, "THREE" (a Trinity); desist it is better for you. Indeed, God is but ONE God. Exalted is He above having a son." QURAN 4:171
Did you know the early Christians were Muslims?
pathofthesalaf 1 year ago
You have 1000's of different denominations understanding a little truth and they mix it with a little bit of lies.
Notice how a house divided cannot stand.
wayisnarrow 1 year ago
"Is there a place where a man can be alone on the earth"
Yah
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@wayisnarrow
Yes there are also many TRINITY's
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
It does not matter what you call it, God is three distinct persons but at the same time one God. It is a mystery that has not been revealed to all yet, as Jesus said in Mat 11:27 & Luk 10:22. Who was Jesus praying to in Mat 26:39? Who is the Father , son and Holy Ghost? Mat 28:19Jesus said he sent the Holy Ghost to us -here- on earth to live with us, that is separate from the Father. Why don't you get it? The word "bible" is not in the scriptures either but that is what we call it.
BelieversJourney 1 year ago
Jesus said "the Father is greater than i" John 14:28, Jesus was created Col 1:15 & Rev 3:14, Jesus was obedient to God John12:49 and at Jesus death he asked if it is possible for this cup to be taken from him but not by his will but by Gods Matt 26:39 and we all know it is impossible for God to lie so why when Moses asked to see him did he say that no man may see me and yet live Ex 33:20 and yet thousands of people saw Jesus who supposedly is God and they lived why not do the same for Moses
sjwhite73 1 year ago
I am sorry for people like you who throw out 2000 years of BASIC Christian foundation. Do you really believe that you and these others have come across some SPECIAL knowledge of the truth and the rest are wrong? Is your faith that shipwrecked? Understanding the God-head is kind of like understanding physics and it takes faith to know that Gods word is true about this. I and my Father are one. Jesus meant that literally. Jesus is God.
BelieversJourney 1 year ago
Yes, i do believe to have found the truth. Just because a doctrine is old does not make it correct, there were false prophets sneaking in to the congregations in the apostles time so as if it wouldn't happen after their death. If you read any history on this subject you will see that there has been opponents to the trinity doctrine since its inception. And as for faith it should not be blind Heb 11:1
sjwhite73 1 year ago
@BelieversJourney
It is hard for Mainstream Christians to understand. I guess that's why Jesus said FEW will find it. How many Trinity believers are there?
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
So why do you take verses out of context and completely IGNORE the multitude of others that clearly present the truth. My revelation on this matter is complete. It is you who needs help. I pray God will reveal Himself to you. Luk 10:22. Isa 41:4, Isa 43: 10-11, Isa 44:6, Rev 22:12-13.
BelieversJourney 1 year ago
I dont think you heard clearly what that preacher in the video and many other so called trinity scholars have said, (there are NO scriptures that clearly present the trinity) thts why you all revert to the saying you just have to have faith. I dont beleive you even read those scriptures i sent that disproves the trinity because if your revelation is as complete as you say you would be able to tell me what your interpretation of them not quote scripture that says God is 1 which is what im saying!
sjwhite73 1 year ago
If I misunderstood I apologize. God is the Father, the son and the Holy Ghost. That is three.
BelieversJourney 1 year ago
@sjwhite73
Blind faith is blind.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
@BelieversJourney
It is a false theory that has failed all who believed it.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
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The early Christian father, Eusebius, noted that "In these words (Moses) names first God Most High, the Supreme God of the universe, and then as Lord, His Word, Whom we call Lord in the second degree after the God of the universe" (Eusebius, Proof of the Gospel IV.9). This is how Paul could emphasize, when rejecting many gods of the Roman world, that for Christians there was one God, the Father, AND one Lord, Jesus Christ (1 Coringthians 8:6).
LDSapologist71 1 year ago
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"The Old Testament was read as the record of two deities: God Most High and his Son Yahweh...Philo emphasized this...Philo implies there that some had mistakenly identified the Logos [Yahweh/Jesus] as God Most High" (Margaret Barker, a Biblical scholar who is *not* a Latter-day Saint, "Temple Themes In Christian Worship," p.79).
LDSapologist71 1 year ago
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"Say (O Muhammad ): O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allâh, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allâh. Then, if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are Muslims. " [The Noble Qur'an 3:64]
2009abuabdullah 1 year ago
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My friend you are sadly wrong. Do realize that denying the deity of Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God the Father, is denying God Himself. For as Jesus says "I and the Father are One". All truths point to the trinity, Jesus is God. True Christians follow all Biblical truth, not adding or denying and written word inspired by the only one true God. There are no contradictions in the Holy Bible. If you think there are, then you simply do not have any understanding of the teaching.
HolyisourLORD 1 year ago
I think not one thing you said will help defend your doctrine of devils.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
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The JW's came to my home and by the time I was done testifying to them, all they wanted to do is leave, and they didn't come back. Because they couldn't hack it, and handle all the doctrines I showed them. One more thing. The JW's don't have the same organization of the church of Christ that was outlined in Ephesians.
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LDSapologist71 1 year ago
So The Jehovas witnesses are right?
zukioi 2 years ago
About the trinity yes.
ProveYourFaith 2 years ago
@ProveYourFaith And what else are the Jehovas Witness right about their concept of Yeshua Too? I find myself asking the Question that Pilot asked what is truth?I have a Catholic friend he claims they put the cannons of the bible together they decided what was inspired by the holy spirit and M.Luther change the bible 1500 years latter. WHAT IS TRUTH?
zukioi 2 years ago
The have the word Elohim right but Jesus is not Micheal the angel. Your friend is referring to the Apocrypha that was removed by the reformists. Jesus said strengthen what remains. He also said few will find it. God is the truth when you begin to uncover it you get closer to him.
ProveYourFaith 2 years ago
@zukioi
I am human Jesus.
ProveYourFaith 1 year ago
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I dust off my shoes with this page.
You are all ignorantes!
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
Why does Jesus teach us? Mat 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, [even] to the end of the age." Amen.
praiselordgrace 2 years ago
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God didn't just create Jews and Christians in the Middle East. He created ALL mankind. He caused the Jews to be scattered into the crowds of the Gentiles. So did He just write those scattered Jews off as "unsaved" just because they had lost access to the scriptures due to their initial disobedience? Is there no balm in Gilead for them as well? Or was it just for people living in and around Jerusalem and in the area of the 7 churches mentioned in Revelation?
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Again Jesus Christ was NOT the real son of Joseph, but Elohym!
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Matthew 18:7 Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but WOE TO THAT MAN through whom the stumbling block comes!
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
WOE TO THAT MAN, JOSEPH SMITH, THE MASON!!!
THROUGH WHOM THE STUMBLING BLOCK HAS COME!!!
Selah...
Christianizers 2 years ago
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LOL just be sure to get those thumbs down on my comments.
Selah...
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Christians look to the LDS, NOT MORMONS, for guidance! LDS have done more for the poor than the entire combined tribe of Judah.
YAH left your temple long before King Nebuchanezzar came and shackled your ancestors just as UZIZAH the prophet testified, and your ancestors had him slain, just like Isaiah, just like Jeremiah. You reject GOD, and you follow vain traditions, but you are no closer to God at this moment in your life, than the pharisees that killed Christ!
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
[LDS have done more for the poor than the entire combined tribe of Judah]...
[your temple]...
[your ancestors]...
[your ancestors had him slain]...
[You reject GOD]...
[you follow vain traditions]...
[you are no closer to God]...
[in your life]...
YAH DOES NOT RESIDE IN 'A TEMPLE' MADE BY MANS HANDS thus your abomination before YAH that you all have built DOES NOT give YOU OR YOUR RELIGION any right to judge any jew for The LDS CHURCH is The Legalism' of today borrowed from Jewry of yesterday!
Christianizers 2 years ago
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What of the Jewish prophecies that the temple would return, but restored, brought back? What you Jews going to do with it once it is? Do you even know what type of rituals, if any, will be done in it? What does your prophets say? Is your YAH concerned about other people in other lands, or just one race?
RESTOREDAPOLOGETICS 2 years ago
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These guys are real ignorant, and just attempt to hide the truth by thumbs down till they must be revealed manually to read. Sad I must say!
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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אני יודע בוודאות, כי אדמות של הספר של המורמונים מגיעים גואטמלה. כל הראיות מצביעות על צאצאיהם של מאיה. מקדש ענק של Mirador בהחלט נמצא שם המשיח הופיע האגדה על Quetzacoatl נולד.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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"ישר בלב, שמרגישים כי הממלכה האמיתית של אלוהים צריך אישורים מיוחדים ורב עוצמה, ולא רק להיות עוד קול בקהל, לא ייעלם מאוכזב מן בדיקה של התביעות עדויות של ספר המורמונים ".
-Hugh Nibley-
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
The trinity or the formula set down by the council of Nicene, 325, is not biblical. Even the Fathers & Emperor admit this: See Dr. Huge Nibley's comments on You Tube: Restored Apologetics: Contrasting LDS & Early Christian Versions of Deification #4.
Many early church fathers also admit that the spiritual gifts were fading out of the church, although the hoped that they could preserve them. Without prophets, eventually dialectic arts of debate, became popular way to argue out creeds.
RESTOREDAPOLOGETICS 2 years ago
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I removed my previous comment because I discovered a spelling error in it after I posted it. There is no edit feature, and I apologize.
scubawrestler 2 years ago
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scubawrestler 2 years ago
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We are well aware of who Elohym is.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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...it seems that proveyourfaith isn't interested in comments foreign to his own... kinda defeats the purpose of letting folks "prove their faith" if he lets their comments get voted into obscurity. *rolls eyes*
I'm curious what you said on his video that ws unpopular! ... lol, it was about the trinity? What was your take? I personally don't recognize it as biblical but more like a "theory" decided upon by a group of men.
THELDSLIFE 2 years ago
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... appearantly unpopular opinions aren't permitted to remain on here, I take it.
Unless something is vile or crude, I don't personally let any comments on my videos get reduced to obscurity...
THELDSLIFE 2 years ago
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OK prove your faith. You win, since you dont want people to see the truth. The world is waiting for your big announcement of Elijah the prophet to yet fulfil MALACHI!
IGNORANTE!!!
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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JESUS is GOD
John 8 58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
YaOkRight 2 years ago
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LOL you ignorantes are encouragable!
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
Malachi 4:5-6
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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What do we know about Malachi's prophecy about Elijah coming back? The Jews suggest that he is still supposed to return by setting an extra plate at their table during the "passover." ... but only one Church has recorded a visit from this prophet as he came to the temple in Kirtland, Ohio to visit the prophet Joseph Smith.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Behold, I will send my messenger(Joseph Smith), and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts. (Malachi 3:1, 2-5)
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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13 After this vision had closed, another great and glorious vision burst upon us; for Elijah the prophet, who was taken to heaven without tasting death, stood before us, and said:
14 Behold, the time has fully come, which was spoken of by the mouth of Malachi—testifying that he [Elijah] should be sent, before the great and dreadful day of the Lord come—
15 To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the children to the fathers, lest the whole earth be smitten with a curse—
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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The word of the Lord came again to me saying,
Moreover thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions; then take another stick and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions.
And Join them one to another into one stick, and they shall become one in thine hand.
Ezekiel 37:15-17
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Behold, this is wisdom in Me; wherefore, marvel not, for the hour cometh that I will drink of the fruit of the vine with you on the earth, and with Moroni, whom I have sent unto you to reveal the Book of Mormon, containing the fulness of my everlasting gospel, to whom I have committed the keys of the record of the "stick of Ephraim."
The book of Mormon is the word of God and I testify that you had better investigate, and the Lord will ask you if you did in mortality.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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That verse was Doctrine and Covenants 27:5
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Bunch of ignorantes put thumbs down on my comments, because they take the truth to be too hard for them. But they refuse to do the research and investigate,all those claims I have made on this site!
בְּשָׁעָה טוֹבָה וּמוּצלַחַת!
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Also the same ignorantes offer no rebuttle, because they have none?
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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unpopular opinions aren't permitted to remain on here, I guess.
Its amazing how the seed of Joseph wasn't heard from again in the Bible, despite the grand blessings given to them via the birthright by Jacob, the patriarch. The Bible doesn't know what happened to those folks. They would be a fruitful bough insomuch that the land of Israel could not contain them. They would be separated from their bretheren but not many are interested to know about their whereabouts? (Gen 49:22-26, Deut Ch 33)
THELDSLIFE 2 years ago
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To the question: Is the Doctrine of the Thrinty in the Bible?
Answer: YES IT IS, BECAUSE THE ROMAN-GREEK PRE-TRINITARIANS PUT IT THERE! Simple put!
preachergabriel 2 years ago
No, The GOD and Father of Jesus is The I AM.
epic103 2 years ago 3
Jesus is not The "I AM." Jesus has a GOD, his GOD and Father is The I AM.
Everything comes from GOD the Father.
epic103 2 years ago 3
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Everything comes from God the Father, and is expressed to our prophets thru Jesus Chrits the I AM.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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And he gave some apostles and some, prophets...for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry...Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God...
Ephesians 4:11-14
Are we in unity of the faith? Where is the prophet of God?
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LDSapologist71 2 years ago
Ridiculous!
It was GOD(Jehovah) that spoke to Moses, not Jesus. (There is no trinity)!
Jesus has a GOD, and is not equal to the GOD he serves. Jesus is a servant of GOD, not GOD Himself. Acts.3:13
epic103 2 years ago 3
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What's ridiculous is your refusal to look at the facts. And you cannot even answer a simple question. Jesus Christ told them that he is the GREAT I AM and you wanna be in denial. Go ahead. It's your spiritual death.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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God the Father since the beginning. The almighty Elohim gave all responsibility over our earth to Jesus Christ. In the pre mortal life, Christ is the one speaking to Moses.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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I can understand it's harder for you non LDS to understand, because we have Abraham's writings and accept them and know exactly what he was taught, and you don't.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Abraham understood that God the Father is one and that Christ is another, and both are God, and also understood that the Multiverse.
You modern day christians, and apologetics don't have a clue.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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where Abraham understood that ?
xiaahmad 2 years ago
understood what?
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
That God is multiple.
also tell me who spoke with moses Father, Son or Holy ghost?
xiaahmad 2 years ago
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The Father tho exists really didn't do much concerning us, Its been Jesus Christ in his pre mortal state the WHOLE time. Jesus Christ is the I AM. I am not sure if you are jewish or christian or what, but I will send you a 2 part video and I ask you comment, sir or mam.
God Bless.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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God the Father and God the Son are one in purpose, thought, deed, and power, just two separate beings.
Stephan in Acts 7:55-56 he sees two beings in the vision. Joseph Smith saw the same thing. tis not rediculous.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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JVH IS JESUS CHRIST before he came to earth to retrieve his body. Why can't you see this?
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
Jesus never called himself, The "I AM." Jesus said, before Abraham i am.
(A completely different reference)
The context of Exodus.3:14, and the context of John.8:58 are completely different.
Jesus said, he was the Messiah, Son of the living GOD, not GOD himself.
The trinity was established hundreds of years after Jesus died.
epic103 2 years ago 3
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Jesus DID call himself the great I AM. why can't you copy the verse for what it says correctly?
"Before Abraham WAS, I AM!
There is a GodHEAD!
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Adam-ondi-Ahman is the subject of a revelation recorded in the LDS edition of the Doctrine and Covenants, a book of scripture within the Latter Day Saint movement: "Spring Hill is named by the Lord Adam-ondi-Ahman, because, said he, it is the place where Adam shall come to visit his people, or the Ancient of Days shall sit, as spoken of by Daniel the prophet."
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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AMEN!
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Adam-ondi-Ahman
Prior to his death, the repentant Adam held a meeting of his faithful posterity in a valley designated "Adam-ondhi-Ahman:"
53 Three years previous to the death of Adam, he called Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch, and Methuselah, who were all high priests, with the residue of his posterity who were righteous, into the valley of Adam-ondi-Ahman, and there bestowed upon them his last blessing.
cont.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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54 And the Lord appeared unto them, and they rose up and blessed Adam, and called him Michael, the prince, the archangel.
55 And the Lord administered comfort unto Adam, and said unto him: I have set thee to be at the head; a multitude of nations shall come of thee, and thou art a prince over them forever.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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56 And Adam stood up in the midst of the congregation; and, notwithstanding he was bowed down with age, being full of the Holy Ghost, predicted whatsoever should befall his posterity unto the latest generation. (D&C 107:53)
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
How did Jesus call himself The "I AM"?
Jesus said, before Abraham i am.
The context is completely different from Exodus.3:14
There is no trinity doctrine. No one taught GOD is 3, instead of 1.
epic103 2 years ago 3
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not sure what version of the bible, you are using, but the King James version is more clear than yours.
Trinity doctrine that Jesus Christ is all three rolled into one HUMAN form. is trinity doctrine. Yes that is correct. It is not in the bible. But has a Henotheist, There are Gods in the multiverse, And god the Father Created Jesus Christ and the Rest of us. but Christ, being our first born created of us all is our Alpha, and our Omega, and He said I am that I am to Moses.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Say it enough and you'll convince yourself. John !:3 needs to be explained.
Blogrich55 2 years ago
Do not be obstinate for you might broach the one sin for which there is no forgiveness.
Meditate; reason out the mystery of the Trinity:
Jesus predicted & executed Pentecost; only G-D can move the Spirit.
Jesus predicted & executed His resurrection & assumption.
There all the "I am" quotes.
"When you baptize, do so in name of The Father, The Son & The Holy Spirit." +
And the Early Church Fathers & counsels reasoned it out by divine providence & then Eastern / Western scholarship.
Hkepfer 2 years ago
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You folks, keep putting the thumbs down on my comments, but doing so in ignorance before researching it for yourselves.
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LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Moses asked the Lord "By what name shall we refer to Thee?!"
And the Lord answered "I am that I am."
John 8:57 Then said the Jews unto Him, "Thou art not yet fifty years old, and thou hast seen Abraham?"
8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily Verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
LDS know who the YAH people are, and we are the birthright people thru the seed of Joseph, last born of Jacob, and the one with the coat of many colors.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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You must repent and become a disciple of jesus christ in order to be saved, but in doing so, accept his living prophet and representative on the earth today.
the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has laid the foundation of the church of Christ once more!
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Joseph Was correct as is Thomas S. Monson today.
in 2008 census 565,000+ baptism worldwide.
How long will you ask the wrong questions and miss the point the Lord is Making?
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Ezra Taft Benson declared that Mary had a virgin birth, and Ezra Taft Benson was a prophet of the Lord.
Joseph Smith may have had multiple marriages, however, they were ONLY on paper, and it wasn't about sex. Anti-mormon literature only trues to implicate it as such, which is blatently false.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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not trues *trys*
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
1st. How does Genesis.1:26 prove GOD is a trinity?
2nd. Why isn't there any clear text that show with certainty that GOD is a trinity?
3rd. Abraham, Moses, the Prophets, King David, Jesus, Peter, Paul etc... none of them taught the doctrine of the trinity, that GOD was 3 in stead of 1.
They all taught that GOD is 1, and that there in no GOD but Him. Exodus.20:2-5, Mark.12:29,32
epic103 2 years ago 3
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The word is not, The doctrine is! explaine Gen 1:26, WHo Is Us? IN OUR image? Your a Jehovah witness? Look I don't care what this man says. I have the Holy Spirit with in me revealing the truth of Scripture and all things to come. The Word of God IN John 1. It is reavealed to those are chosen. IN faith JM
goldmakers 2 years ago
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christianizers,
please re ask me your questions. I'm sorry I've been busy, or I will look up your PM.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
Not really, because the reason is the men of the councils of Nicea are uninspired and not called of God that created the doctrine of the trinity.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
What an idiot you are you seem to have not comprehended the video. I actually mentioned your ignorance which is fully displayed in your comment.
ProveYourFaith 2 years ago
JIPT
In what name aka authority did John The Baptist baptize men and Yeshua' (Jesus) in?
Where does John The Baptist baptize in 'a trinitas' name?
If its not written then it is of mens minds that profane YAH' WORD and HIS SON Yeshua' Ben YaHVeH that They say that They are like 'Christ', this is what Yeshua' warned everyone of but christian trinitarians are too blind to see...
And... They cannot read The Errors of Their Ways cause Their Ears have been filled with The Lies of Adverse Daftness!
Christianizers 2 years ago
Trinity is really NOT biblical. Indeed the vision of stephan implies God the Father and the Son are two separate beings, but one in purpose.
To bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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The Catholics didn't create the divinity of christ. However Christ proved his divinity in mortality, and the mission of the apostles which were appointed thru ORDINATION as was Moses' friend Aaron to preach the world of his divinity.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
LDSA71...
Yes... The Pagan Trinitas Doctrine IS NOT biblical and yes the vision of Stephen is clear with nothing implied but The Truth that YAH IS CENTER OF HIS THRONE and HIS SON Yeshua' Ben YaHVeH is YAH' RIGHT HAND OF AUTHORITY aka MEDIATOR between YAH' CREATION and YAH' THRONE but...
Q: THE ONE PURPOSE you report of IS IT YAH' PURPOSE IN PURPOSING?
Q: Or are you likewise claiming 'a duality' of YAH' PURPOSE?
Q: WHOSE POWER ALONE is bringing about the immortality and eternal life of man?
Christianizers 2 years ago
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Abraham 3:22-25
22 Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences (humankind) that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many great and noble ones;
23 And God saw these souls that they were good, and he stood in the midst of them, and he said "These I will make my rulers; for he stood among those that were spirits, and he saw that they were good; and he said unto me "Abraham, thou wast chosen before thou wast born."
cont.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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24 And there stood ONE among them that was LIKE UNTO GOD, and he said unto those who were with him "We will go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these materials, and we will make an earth whereon we may dwell."
25 And we will prove them herewith, to see if they will do all things whatsoever the Lord their God shall command them;
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
LDSA71...
Q: Would you care to elaborate on how these references you have posted specifically explains your answers to my three questions asked of you?
Christianizers 2 years ago
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Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh, forordained before the world was to redeem mankind from the fall of Adam. He was like unto God, and God, tho created by the Father, like us, he is the eldest brother of us all in the pre mortal existence. Christ is the Jehovah of the Old Testament, and taught Abraham and Moses, and all rights to the earth have been delegated to Christ by the Eternal Father. And his authority ordained the apostles, but they apostles were rejeted and killed.
cont.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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The original church fell into Hellenistic views of Plato, and with the apostles gone, the doctrines of infant baptism, the trinity, purgatory, creeds, transubstantiation, indulgences, and all sorts of things not biblical.
the twelve apostles represented the foundation of the church which supported the body of the church by REVELATION, which was given to Peter when asked who Christ is/was. Revelation is what the gates of hell shall not prevail against.
so where is it?
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Amos 3:7
Amos 8:11-12
but they had the bible but there weren't any prophets hearing or recieving revelation FOR A TIME.
But Joseph Smith changed all this, he saw God the Father and the Son, and conversed with them, and Peter, james, and John the ancient apostles, appeared to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery and laid their hands on them and ordained them and RESTORED THE KEYS OF THE PRIESTOOD OF MECHEZIDEK.
Acts 3:19-21
the book of Mormon was wisdom in the Almighty to restore truths
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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I also already told you that the Elias that which is to precede the coming of the Messiah in great Glory would come, Already has come, and put his hands on Joseph smith and there were about twenty people present that witnessed that day.
Or according to Malachi the whole earth would utterly by wasted at His coming.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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I also told you, I am from Ephraim and of the birthright, and it says that Judah shall not vex Ephraim neither Ephraim envy Judah.
Why?
Because Judah missed the mark. Read the ancient Semitic text translated for our knowledge of the ONE true God today known as the book of Mormon for yourself.
I know it is authentic, historical and true.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
"The original church"...
Q: You mean The Original Covenant, right?
Q: What Church did Yeshua' (Christ) Sanction?
Q: Doesn't, "upon this rock I will build my church" mean upon this foundational principal I will build YAH' PEOPLE up by vs. a building of organized constituents?
Q: Was Yeshua' (Christ) referring to the soul or the spirit of YAH' ORIGINAL TEMPLE being built by Solomon?
Q: So are The Disciples Of Yeshua' (Christ) ChurchGoers or A Covenanted People?
Soul and Spirit are not EQUAL!
Christianizers 2 years ago
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The original church I was referring to is the church of JESUS CHRIST, that fulfilled the Law of Moses in his final sacrifice as the lamb of God.
Christ formed a church and it was to be built upon the foundation of Apostles and Prophets that WITH ordination they could continue REVELATION and HEAR the audible voice of the Lord.
Notice I keep mentioning that the church of Jesus Christ that was Restored has this.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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In Matthew the question put to peter is "Who am I?"
And the Eternal Father in Heaven revealed via REVELATION to Peter the answer. And that is the Rock which the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against.
It is a mere interpretation to say it's "YAH PEOPLE" I haven't seen a Jewish prophet in our day or since before the days of Christ. yet in the Church of JESUS CHRIST that was ordained thru ancient apostles Peter, James and John there is continued Revelation.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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Those that join the Church of Jesus Christ that was restored.
Acts 3:19-21
Are adopted into the House of Israel, and those that are of the seed of Joseph (not Joseph Smith), but the Joseph that was sold into slavery, and earned the birthright back in that day heard the spirit of God first, and we're sharing it with the world. I am from the tribe of Joseph thru Ephraim and you should read the testament that teaches the Jew and the gentile that Jesus is the messiah.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
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This testament is a branch of the house of Israel and dates clear back to the days of Isaiah and Jeremiah, and is true and they have found Hebrew words in abundance in todays Guatemala, because of the influence of some of the first settlers to that area as they practiced the law of moses, but degerated into a blood thirsty Mayan culture, but the pre classic Maya have proof that they practiced baptism, circumcision, and sacrifice.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
"Christ is the Jehovah of the Old Testament"...
Q: How does this not make your doctrine trinitarian?
Christianizers 2 years ago
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Believe me when I say, we aren't protestants, and Joseph wasn't a member of any church prior to the re founding of the church of J.C.
that is how it all got started. We know that God and Christ are two beings, but one in purpose, and that is what Christ meant when he said I and the Father are One. Trinitarians don't teach this.
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
"Believe me when I say"...
Regardless though You and The Trinitarians have this in common that you both believe that YAH spoken of in The Old Testament is Yeshua' Messiah (Jesus Christ) in The New Testament this is clearly A Pagan Concept of Incarnating A Divine Deity into A Man this is profane to YAH' COMMANDS in The Old Testament for YAH DOES NOT CHANGE nor IS YAH a man...
This is a common misnomer that transubstantiation and incarnation are natural concepts but ARE FORBIDDEN TO YAH' PEOPLE!
Christianizers 2 years ago
bandaidmafia, will you please show me another human in the Bible that has the same characteristics as Jesus and is called God?
So to answer your question
Q: wooddell89, is Jesus the only human being who is given the title "God" in the bible?
No there is no other human given the title God in the Bible. There is only one God.
Question for you bandaidmafia. How do you believe John 1:1 should be translated?
Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. John 14:6
wooddell89 2 years ago
Wood89...
..."will you please show me another human in the Bible that has the same characteristics as Jesus and is called God?"
Same characteristics? The trinity is what this video questions not the Messiahship of Yeshua' being The Son Of YAH (God)...
Thomas adequately identifies Yeshua' as My Messiah (Lord), My Elohym (God) among all of YAH' CREATED Human Beings for no other man has been resurrected from the dead like He, Yeshua' was, this DOES NOT make Yeshua' God but The Only Son Of YAH...
Christianizers 2 years ago
Wood,
Yeshua (Jesus) asked what the perception of Him was but religious men since just call Him God!
Matt 16:13 Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
Matt 16:15 But whom say ye that I am?
Matt 16: 16 ...The Christ, the Son of the living God.
Mk 8:27 Whom do men say that I am?
Mk 8:29 But whom say ye that I am?
Mk 8:29 Thou art the Christ.
Mark' Gospel says The Messiah only but Matthew' Gospel says The Messiah, The Son Of The Living YAH (God) neither says Thou art God Incarnate, does it?
Christianizers 2 years ago