E Lydian Jam

[darkolyte30]

Sounds like I know you're here by Steve Vai...

[Situious]

This is a great improv, good job

[lepie1]

Thanks for posting, stay tuned!

[cloudsilver]

very nice playing, could anyone send me that backing track it would be greatly appreciated

[kukurei]

HELP PLEASE ... i dont know where to play this modes.. i know for example e lydian is basically a B major scale starting with e so can i play this in E major or a minor chord???

[oregonskateok]

If you want to learn how to play modes, you have to learn about modal progressions. Learning scale patterns is not going to help you with modes, they require certain progressions to bring out the flavor.

[kukurei]

can you give me an example please... or a link to modal progression lessons

[oregonskateok]

Yeah definitly, I will send you a message later this evening explaining the difference between lydian and your standard major progression and how to properly use it.

[kukurei]

Thank you very much for your help.

[diazcamille]

hey mate, could you forward that message to me? im having the same troubles with lydian. thanks!

[westcoast1965]

Modes are just patterns.. Lydian is the same pattern of intervals as a major scale with a sharp 4th degree.

[oregonskateok]

What? They are not just patterns you retard. Lydian has a different set of intervals then the major scale, and will have a different tonal center then its major scale parent. Try again.

[westcoast1965]

Fuck you... you're the retard. Any scale is just a pattern of intervals.

The Lydian mode is just the same patterns of intervals as a major scale with a raised fourth degree. Look it up you pompous cunt.

[splankhoon]

Play in E but use Bb instead of A...you'll get this wonderful spacey feel. Often used in a fantastic way by Frank Zappa. And check out Steve Vai's "The Riddle".

[oregonskateok]

A#, E lydian does not use the note Bb.

[splankhoon]

of course, they're enharmonic notes. You're right in the theoretical way...but anyway " a rose by any other name..." :-)

[thekkl]

What's the difference between A# and Bb?

[oregonskateok]

The difference is, in each key you have seven notes. E major as four sharp notes, F C G and D. The B is already present in the key, and is natural, therefore you need an A sharp to use. The augmented 4th pulls to the fifth degree of the scale, and acts as sort of a secondary leading tone, giving an interesting feel in a major key.

[metallicallen]

nothing the proper terminology is called an enharmonic

[shredfix1993]

absolutely nothing!, just the names there the same note

[st1710]

@thekkl On a guitar, piano or other instruments that are equally-tempered, no difference but the name. They are the same frequency, but obviously you don't want two notes with the same name in a scale. These "enharmonics" in equal and well tempered instruments are chosen to prevent too severely discordant frequency ratios regardless of key and transposition. In other tuning schemes enharmonics may be rendered as different frequencies. Related Wikipedia articles are long but excellent.

[EstevanMusic]

@thekkl Another difference is that in other intonations, they are not the same note.

Like Just Intonation.

[sixstring098]

possibly youre thinking of a whole-tone scale?

[sticey69]

lydian rocks i prefer dorian the best but i like lydian to

[guitarralaraja]

E? I THINK IT'S Eb

[TheOriginalGuitarMan]

No, it's E not Eb

[Pennys1]

I used to jam alot in Lydian, but since I tried to develop more of a progressive heavy metal sound, I started playing in Locrian

[ILOVEAYANAMI]

@TheOriginalGuitarMan youre tunned half tone down......

[Fishies125]

@guitarralaraja umm no.