I hope this is running in a virtual machine, because even the old demo with 266 MHz processors and 3 GB disk spaces performs much better than this, and even with that this one fails. They did not have any hardware acceleration, as they say in the demo.
Be OS programmers where truly geniuses.
I just hate how modern software developers waste resources, only because now they can do it.
BeOS was the OS Apple were considering back in the mid-1990's along with NeXT Step. Apple took NeXT Step and along with it came Steve Jobs (owner of Next Computer). And the rest, as they say, is history! Nice to see there is still life in these OS's.
I tried this recently. i don't get it. Whats the point in remaking an old outdated OS that wasn't even a good contender for the MS or Mac desktop? Be may have been good for it's time but that was over 10 years ago people. Now, the most minimal Linux can do what Be did and more.. so whats the future of haiku? Where is it wanting to go that will cause people to use it for their desktop pc system? As it is now, it doesn't have 1 fifth the functionality a small linux has. Where is haiku going?
@TheElectricRider Haiku is awesome. Boots up super fast, responsive and minimal. But you can hate on Haiku if you want. Haters gonna hate. If you don't like it, don't use it?
@TheElectricRider It doesn't need to go anywhere. Even OS/2 Warp 4 still has users. Open source/free software OS doesn't need to be number one OS. If it has users and does what it needs to do it has succeeded.
I just hope they put in the new drivers for the modern printers. That was the problem with BeOS and I hated it. I have a Be CD and Be Bible also which I got from the company selling it. If it will recognize USB ports and run on SATA drives it will be fantastic. That is the problem with eCS (OS/2) which I loved also and Serinity Systems still didn't fix. I guess IBM has not come up with a solution for that and really not interested in it.
@hajialibaig wow you cant appreciate an any thing can you? Im pretty sure the BeOS team or who ever made this spent hours of hardwork and wrote millions of lines of code you disgust me
OIn principle I strongly favour new OSs to come out and compete with OSX and, primarily, Windows. In practice though I rarely see why they've bothered, most look like they're following Linux desktops. If you're not going to offer the user anything substantial to leave the major vendors for, what's the point? I'd like to see more differentiation and, above all, innovative features.
@JamesManes Hmmm... I don't really agree with that. The main positive with Linux is you can use it as the basis for a useful software platform in little time and at no expense. With Linux I have also noticed it uptake as a super-computer environment and many internet servers have adopted it because it has matirity and stability.
@vapourmile Actually, at no expense is not exactly true. Linux is under GPL and that is very restricting. Its impossible to make money from something based off linux pretty much. Not impossible, but hard. As for the super computer issue, Linux can be taylored to the SC's needs, due to it being open source. Also they don't use a UI on super computers usually so Linux would be decent. Linux UI is just bad.
Man I used to use BeOS for the longest time. I miss it I just look into it today to see how its progressed over 3 years and wow! Has it ever. After BeOS R5 I went to YellowTAB ZETA 1.0 and really enjoyed it but they shut down (probably Microsoft). I am considering BeOS again I like the seperating from the over saturated operating systems.
@CheeseZombieo I see that they still have the teacup graphic program in this version which was in the R5. I hope they get the drivers for the printers available, which they didn't have for the original BeOS.
Many are glad you didn't do that then. It is a good OS, but needed more drivers to make it practical for most users. For me it was a waste of my money and now the CD and book which came with it is collecting dust like OS/2.
Any project depends on community. People don't dedicate themselves enough to write their own drivers, modifications or software and the project loses itself.
@CheeseZombieo I liked it, but never could get BeOS to recognize my printer and I was no programmer to produce drivers for it. That is the problem with OS' like it which looks good, but lack the hardware drivers to make it productive.
Ummmm, this is not a Linux or UNIX distro. Haiku was based off of BeOS which has absolutely nothing to do with Linux or UNIX in any way whatsoever.
Haiku has a ling way to go but once they get a few things working it should be right up there with Solaris 10 and Linux Ubuntu (all 3 of which are good Operating Systems).
How much of customization can be done upon installation ? I need to give the 2nd life to my old PC that has 300MHz CPU and 128MB memory, and wondering if I can get a stripped version of Haiku.
Hmm are there anymore that you can show than just the GUI? Because as far as this video goes it looks as if it is just another DE that runs on top of a *nix system... but I know Haiku is more than just its interface!!!
It not a Linux distro. Its based on the old Be, but with improvements. And its still in Alpha, so it is still using adapted Be apps and some basic new apps.
No its not like Linux I don't think. They are just trying to reproduce it with guesses. Its actually very sad. It is slow because it is being compiled with GCC
Is it because of lack of 2D acceleration that redraw is so slow? Is this running on a VM? I've read claims it is, or will be, faster than BeOS on the same hardware.
It was in a vm. But GCC is really kinda bad.. well.. its ok for free. But Intel compilers are the best in the world. And parts of windows and OS X are compiled with Intels stuff.
@JamesManes Because AMD gives you more bang for your buck. A Phenom II x6 costs 200 dollars. The intel hexa-core one is way better, but it costs about $1000 more. for 200 dollars, you MIGHT be able to get an older Core 2 Quad., which the X6 murders. So yes, Intel is better in the performance area, but not the performance value area.
Not always. The quality is much more important than the performance. For example when Intel processors overheat they don't burn up, they just stop processing.
In the desktop world, you have a slight argument. In laptops you can gtfo. AMD processors run hot and get horrible battery life in laptops. It is no secret. I'll even provide proof if you want.
I never understand how people can honestly post such wrong information in a public forum.
Neither is Haiku based on Linux in any way (other than using several GNU tools, toolchains, and glibc, just like BeOS also did).
Nor was YellowTab "sued out of existence" - they failed on their own, then mentioned possibly opening the sources, and it was publicly announced by ACCESS that they had no right to do so because they had no ownership over the copyright in the first place.
Where the hell did you find the song?
foxh8er 1 month ago
@foxh8er On my BeOS CD. lol
JamesManes 1 month ago
@JamesManes LMFAO, I was watching the BeOS video that the business made back in the day and this was the same song.
FearedBliss 1 month ago
@FearedBliss Yep. They made it. Virtual void()
JamesManes 1 month ago
@JamesManes lol
codecaine 2 weeks ago
Almost 20k views. Jeez. Never expected the vid to get this popular.
JamesManes 1 month ago
what was the good thing about this ???
ChaoticRupture 1 month ago
I hope this is running in a virtual machine, because even the old demo with 266 MHz processors and 3 GB disk spaces performs much better than this, and even with that this one fails. They did not have any hardware acceleration, as they say in the demo.
Be OS programmers where truly geniuses.
I just hate how modern software developers waste resources, only because now they can do it.
Thank you for the video.
Laloloop 2 months ago
@Laloloop Yes! This was emulated on a MacBook that I had. I believe I ran it in qemu.
JamesManes 2 months ago
where do i download this os?? i love this one even i didnt know bout this OS?
FilipinorenderHD 2 months ago
@FilipinorenderHD Hello. You can grab it from here: haiku-os (DOT) org :)
JamesManes 2 months ago
@JamesManes thnks i really love it very faster :)
FilipinorenderHD 2 months ago
@JamesManes it's like the new linux
chickensforthewin 2 months ago
@semco72057 Haiku does recognize USB ports and does install on SATA drives.
JeremyPassarelli 2 months ago
BeOS was the OS Apple were considering back in the mid-1990's along with NeXT Step. Apple took NeXT Step and along with it came Steve Jobs (owner of Next Computer). And the rest, as they say, is history! Nice to see there is still life in these OS's.
RojamZane 4 months ago
ive never gotten haiku to run on my desktop. would like to try it out but oh well...
AlMamluk 6 months ago
I tried this recently. i don't get it. Whats the point in remaking an old outdated OS that wasn't even a good contender for the MS or Mac desktop? Be may have been good for it's time but that was over 10 years ago people. Now, the most minimal Linux can do what Be did and more.. so whats the future of haiku? Where is it wanting to go that will cause people to use it for their desktop pc system? As it is now, it doesn't have 1 fifth the functionality a small linux has. Where is haiku going?
TheElectricRider 6 months ago
@TheElectricRider Haiku is awesome. Boots up super fast, responsive and minimal. But you can hate on Haiku if you want. Haters gonna hate. If you don't like it, don't use it?
JamesManes 6 months ago 4
@TheElectricRider It doesn't need to go anywhere. Even OS/2 Warp 4 still has users. Open source/free software OS doesn't need to be number one OS. If it has users and does what it needs to do it has succeeded.
ZeroViruzz 4 months ago
@TheElectricRider You obviously do not know much about legacy Operating Systems.
larewwedxhhh19 3 months ago
@TheElectricRider But Haiku is in Alpha 3 -- and it is already totally awesome. For me at least :).
SGPMPSGA 2 months ago
That music!
vbobkovsky 7 months ago
I don't got it ! Where is the meat ??? Just a plain surface !
AlgerianPhoenix 8 months ago
i need some help...i downloaded beOS but i dont know hot to apply it on my PC
elmaguel318 8 months ago
uh! I just loved Be! Perhaps I'll have dualboot again, soon... :D
yo6ial 1 year ago
I just hope they put in the new drivers for the modern printers. That was the problem with BeOS and I hated it. I have a Be CD and Be Bible also which I got from the company selling it. If it will recognize USB ports and run on SATA drives it will be fantastic. That is the problem with eCS (OS/2) which I loved also and Serinity Systems still didn't fix. I guess IBM has not come up with a solution for that and really not interested in it.
semco72057 1 year ago
arrr bless it.
It looked so ahead of its time.
vancar6 1 year ago
BeOS really was a feat of software engineering. A full OO operating system, simply beautiful :)
TheRealFallenDemon 1 year ago 2
BEOs haiku is a fucking windows seven is the best
dwdwsk8123 1 year ago
what? no aero glass? never using this.
hajialibaig 1 year ago
@hajialibaig wow you cant appreciate an any thing can you? Im pretty sure the BeOS team or who ever made this spent hours of hardwork and wrote millions of lines of code you disgust me
gruntlover2 1 year ago
what's the song?
winfr34k 1 year ago
@winfr34k
Virtual Void by Be. INC
JamesManes 1 year ago 2
OIn principle I strongly favour new OSs to come out and compete with OSX and, primarily, Windows. In practice though I rarely see why they've bothered, most look like they're following Linux desktops. If you're not going to offer the user anything substantial to leave the major vendors for, what's the point? I'd like to see more differentiation and, above all, innovative features.
vapourmile 1 year ago
@vapourmile If you look at it that way there is no need for Linux either. All it is is a posix unix-like whore with no real features.
JamesManes 1 year ago
@JamesManes Hmmm... I don't really agree with that. The main positive with Linux is you can use it as the basis for a useful software platform in little time and at no expense. With Linux I have also noticed it uptake as a super-computer environment and many internet servers have adopted it because it has matirity and stability.
vapourmile 1 year ago
@vapourmile Actually, at no expense is not exactly true. Linux is under GPL and that is very restricting. Its impossible to make money from something based off linux pretty much. Not impossible, but hard. As for the super computer issue, Linux can be taylored to the SC's needs, due to it being open source. Also they don't use a UI on super computers usually so Linux would be decent. Linux UI is just bad.
JamesManes 1 year ago
Man I used to use BeOS for the longest time. I miss it I just look into it today to see how its progressed over 3 years and wow! Has it ever. After BeOS R5 I went to YellowTAB ZETA 1.0 and really enjoyed it but they shut down (probably Microsoft). I am considering BeOS again I like the seperating from the over saturated operating systems.
CheeseZombieo 2 years ago
@CheeseZombieo I see that they still have the teacup graphic program in this version which was in the R5. I hope they get the drivers for the printers available, which they didn't have for the original BeOS.
semco72057 2 years ago
I built a worm for BeOS long ago.. using package builder I attached the worm to it. Wipes files and cleans out filesystem.
Never released it. Didn't want to ruin the view of such a great operating system.
CheeseZombieo 2 years ago
Many are glad you didn't do that then. It is a good OS, but needed more drivers to make it practical for most users. For me it was a waste of my money and now the CD and book which came with it is collecting dust like OS/2.
semco72057 1 year ago
Any project depends on community. People don't dedicate themselves enough to write their own drivers, modifications or software and the project loses itself.
CheeseZombieo 1 year ago
@CheeseZombieo That is true, but many who are interested in the OS can't program.
semco72057 1 year ago
Unfortunally.. if it supported my hardware I would be using it for both my main production and my server.
CheeseZombieo 1 year ago
@CheeseZombieo I liked it, but never could get BeOS to recognize my printer and I was no programmer to produce drivers for it. That is the problem with OS' like it which looks good, but lack the hardware drivers to make it productive.
semco72057 1 year ago
Ummmm, this is not a Linux or UNIX distro. Haiku was based off of BeOS which has absolutely nothing to do with Linux or UNIX in any way whatsoever.
Haiku has a ling way to go but once they get a few things working it should be right up there with Solaris 10 and Linux Ubuntu (all 3 of which are good Operating Systems).
Dms12444 2 years ago
How much of customization can be done upon installation ? I need to give the 2nd life to my old PC that has 300MHz CPU and 128MB memory, and wondering if I can get a stripped version of Haiku.
lostinxlation 2 years ago
Best OS ever, I'm waiting for the Beta release.
UnnamedPro 2 years ago
Hmm are there anymore that you can show than just the GUI? Because as far as this video goes it looks as if it is just another DE that runs on top of a *nix system... but I know Haiku is more than just its interface!!!
sunnz 2 years ago
It not a Linux distro. Its based on the old Be, but with improvements. And its still in Alpha, so it is still using adapted Be apps and some basic new apps.
tswiftshipper 2 years ago
"as far as this video goes *it looks as if* it is just another DE that runs on top of a *nix system..."
sunnz 2 years ago
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I think I read somewhere that Haiku is based on linux.. I believe that BeOS was not a linux distro.
kwg2005 2 years ago
No its not like Linux I don't think. They are just trying to reproduce it with guesses. Its actually very sad. It is slow because it is being compiled with GCC
JamesManes 2 years ago
Is it because of lack of 2D acceleration that redraw is so slow? Is this running on a VM? I've read claims it is, or will be, faster than BeOS on the same hardware.
Is GCC4.3 really much worse than the competition?
fleskebille 2 years ago
It was in a vm. But GCC is really kinda bad.. well.. its ok for free. But Intel compilers are the best in the world. And parts of windows and OS X are compiled with Intels stuff.
JamesManes 2 years ago
@JamesManes well, Intel compilers are the best for *Intel* processors... LOL.
eMGeeGFX 1 year ago
Intel processors whop the shit out of AMD. Don't see why anyone would use AMD anymore...
JamesManes 1 year ago
@JamesManes I wasn't talking about that.
eMGeeGFX 1 year ago
@JamesManes Because AMD gives you more bang for your buck. A Phenom II x6 costs 200 dollars. The intel hexa-core one is way better, but it costs about $1000 more. for 200 dollars, you MIGHT be able to get an older Core 2 Quad., which the X6 murders. So yes, Intel is better in the performance area, but not the performance value area.
justinb93 1 year ago
@justinb93
AMD also tends to be better in the heat area... as in they generate a ton of heat and kill battery life.
JamesManes 1 year ago
@JamesManes I use AMD's in desktops with a large heatsink, not laptops. I've never been much of a laptop fan anyway.
justinb93 1 year ago
@JamesManes Price/performance rules all.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77
Not always. The quality is much more important than the performance. For example when Intel processors overheat they don't burn up, they just stop processing.
JamesManes 1 year ago
@JamesManes This is also true of modern AMD processors, and indeed of every desktop and laptop CPU designed in the past 5 years.
Do you have any more fud you'd like to spread? Because my e-toast is dry.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77
In the desktop world, you have a slight argument. In laptops you can gtfo. AMD processors run hot and get horrible battery life in laptops. It is no secret. I'll even provide proof if you want.
JamesManes 1 year ago
@JamesManes Did I ever say that they ran cold?
No. What happened was that you said they didn't shut themselves off when they overheated. I pointed out that you weren't telling the truth.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@JamesManes lol hai thar
CultOfTheGlenda 10 months ago
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Haiku is an implementation of BeOS within the Linux framework. YellowTab was the last true BeOS setup, but they were sued out of existence.
tak178 2 years ago
I never understand how people can honestly post such wrong information in a public forum.
Neither is Haiku based on Linux in any way (other than using several GNU tools, toolchains, and glibc, just like BeOS also did).
Nor was YellowTab "sued out of existence" - they failed on their own, then mentioned possibly opening the sources, and it was publicly announced by ACCESS that they had no right to do so because they had no ownership over the copyright in the first place.
umccullough 2 years ago
I can never understand why people care about a 3 month old post, and take umbrage over something that doesn't concern them
YellowTab was sued for copyright infringement, and yes, sued out of existence.
tak178 2 years ago
God I miss BeOS. It's wonderful to see a restoration project, because quite frankly, BeOS was just badass. I need to try this out.
UnrelentingAssault 2 years ago 12
they are not dead anymore wow amazing. I tried it 6 months ago.
ASCII808 2 years ago 4
Looks like a cool little OS
NickinBETA 2 years ago 2
wa is this? y is it a good thng?
planetpatrick 2 years ago
Wuts so special about Haiku?
eduardoc 2 years ago
Absolutely nothing.
JamesManes 2 years ago
Awesome I'll download it now.
eduardoc 2 years ago
:D i love haiku
JamesManes 2 years ago