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That dude wasn't doing anything like Ninjutsu. In Ninjutsu, we never let ourselves become off balance, we always have something to guard our face, and neither of locks the MMA guy used were particularly difficult to escape from, in fact there's ways to kill him from inside both locks.
@teagm003 that's funny that you say theres a way to kill someone from inside a rear naked choke. a rear naked choke is a pretty easy way to kill someone too. id like to hear your explanation.
@stevedusome The most common mistake is trying to pull yourself out, that just puts their arm further up your neck and stops your blood flow faster. If you hold your arm out as if it's around someone neck, you'll find there is a pressure point on the underside of the elbow joint. And I'm sure you're familiar with the 'funny bone' thing. if you use your knuckles to tap the funny bone, and then a thumb to push the pressure point.. PART 1
MOST (not all) people will loosen up a tiny bit for a half second or less... This is almost time to turn your head towards their other arm. At the same time you use your other hand to pull your own head to the side, this allows one side of your neck to be free, so you have a few more seconds of conciousness. Then you use the pressure point hand to reach around and rip their hand off the back of your head...
This is hard, but made possible my the fact they now know you're trying to escape and push your head further forward. Once that's done, you can feel free to head but them. Now their bodies natural reactions give you a chance to tuck your face down to your shoulder, and use the leverage gained to pull free. Before he grabs you again, you need to do something to make him realise it's not a good idea. His wrist should still be on your shoulder, so go ahead and grab that...
then use your pressure point hand to reach across his elbow and grab the same wrist. Now roll towards the wrist, his legs will probably stay around you, but that's no big deal, first deal with the breathing issue. From there it's pretty much a standard escape. The other way my Sensei taught me is that you can pull on the elbow of the arm the is grabbing, then his hand will slip off your head if you pull hard enough.
The term mma stands for "mixed martial arts" so your friend that allegedly studies Ninjutsu and Jeet Kune Do is classifed as an MMA fighter........just thought I would clarify that.
why is it that everyone who goes against a mma practioner always gets into a wrestling match, rear naked choke don't count for shit when he's not wearing a cup and he doesn't want to roll with you when you're gonna jab him in the eyes
Maybe it's because that's reality. You can fantasize about poking eyes and hitting groin etc but it's not so easy as you might think. Instead of theorizing over the internet, maybe you should give it a try and find out the hard way yourself.
MMA makes sense. In some situations you have to be offensive to protect yourself. In the case of MMA as the sport, it is the constant practice of being in a one-on-one situation which is common but not always the case on the street. Comparing these two is apples to oranges. Ninjitsu is stealthy, quick, absolute and can never be a sport. It all comes down to the practitioner anyway. Some people are just better athletes and it has nothing to do with style at that point.
how can you compare ninjitsu to mma? a true ninja would not have been seen and the mma fighter would have been dead with out even nowing an oponent was in the room! to different worlds ninjas dont fight the assasinate!
@dakine400 Crazy putting a Ninja against an MMA,two different worlds,that MMA guy would be dead even before he knew it,they are killing machines with no rules.
Two totally different forms of combat. Ninjitsu is as about deception, almost a spy form of combat. Mma is one on one until someone taps or goes lights out. Still expected better with jkd mixed in.
mma? seriously? mma stands for MIXED! martial arts, they don't even know what they're doing... no hooks? he could of had the rear naked from the moment they went to the ground. And yes for all the haters, I do know what I'm talking about, I train Jiu-Jitsu, I know the ground game well
@Lexmark117 The guy had a headlock on him. He had to pop the headlock off first. Once he did that, he moved on his back put his hooks in and got the choke.
@hallpassism That's sad. It really is a shame because the both the media and modern teachers are so overwhelmed with reputation and attention that they forget the full picture. I have travelled the world and met some real, hard-core do not mess with them MA practitioners and the one thing they all had in common: peaceful, respectful and kind. It's as if once a person really knows how to kill, they don't feel fear and don't therefore need to oppress.
@sovietninja3 Maybe useless is a bit harsh, as there is a place for it in our sheltered society, but it certainly isn't useful in a martial/war aspect. I've trained with guys who, if you grab them, will grin, shift, sink, expel and basically destroy your hand/arm/shoulder/hip in a second, making submission arts totally unacceptable... and I'm not flaming anyone's art, it's just fact. We all, as MA students, need to be much more sensible and less directed by media.
@notdrockok well personally as a martial arts student myself, there are several techniques from jujitsu that are useful to me and my style. maybe not for you though
@MrHuntingHawk nor is it on the street... do ninjas fight? I thought they assassinate and disappear undetected... the MMA guy should be in the room on his own, then just fall over dead. That would be MMA vs Ninjutsu lol
Just so you know I'm not disrespecting MMA or any other fighting form, but i have noticed how many MMA students become increasingly aggressive and feel the need to pit themselves against other matial arts, there is nothing to be found but a 'thuggish mentality', where is the enlightenment and honour that needs to be present in any self respecting martial artist? Enjoy whatever works for you, but do not underestimate what works for others> Good luck x
@crabonarock i like your comment , although as an MMA practitioner i can tell you that not all MMA students are aggressive i'm not aggressive neither my training partners , i think that depends of the person and the coach not the discipline
I'm a Krav Maga practitioner which is inherently aggressive. However, even though I'm quite a big and aggressive guy, I'm very controlled. I dislike people (newbies or higher level practitioners) who feel the need to be overly aggressive and actually end up hurting you for no reason. My left quad still hurts from this guy who felt the need to full force knee me whilst sparring. It's just annoying since I'm not out to hurt anybody nor would I full force spar.
@crabonarock A lot of the time I find its the Traditional Martial Artist who come ofter MMA fighters because theyre stuck on the concept of "my style is the best" I started doing tkd when I was 12, stopped at 13 but will start again, then wrestled from 14 to now im 17, and 6 months ago started jiu jitsu, mma, and we have other martial artist teach us some techniques from various arts, even Bruce Lee said he doesnt believe in 1 style, he is the original mixed martial artist, sorry this is so long
@babyblack94 It must be devastating for some martial artists to have spent a great part of their lives to have it so easily dis-proven. Joe Rogan was a Champion of TaeKwondo and said himself how his life of dedication was turned upside down having studied MMA. I still think there is a lot of respect,, GSP Couture are all decent fighters. Now that guys like Tito and Ken Shamrock/Brock are gone things can improve.
@punishr36 Yeah I rememeber watching the video where he says that just a few days ago, im glad he says that its not 100% like most styles will claim but he doesnt completely bash it saying its worthless, just that some moves work in the cage and some dont, some for the street and some for show, ya know?
@crabonarock ...... What works for MMA, generally works. Period. It's called "Mixed Martial Arts" for a reason. You take what is effective and works, and ditch the useless crap.
@crabonarock probably you are right but mma is young .. it will probably end up with some masters who become more passionate about the self developement behind it... i agree with you .. that is why i say mma can be considered a martial art but not deffinetly to me atleast
@crabonarock exactly. the like the ninjitsu guy who got thrown and choked out. he should not be underestimated. after all, he might have pepper spray, or lots of friends
@crabonarock what is it that works for others? we will incorporate it in what we do... because that's what we do... you can like it or hate it, doesn't really matter cause we did it and it stuck..
@crabonarock on top of which where's the refinement in the art? It's like two stags locking horns for territory. I see no higher learning from Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Besides, GJJ isn't going to help me with a bunch of angry Millwall football fans armed to the teeth with broken bottles, skivs, knives and grenades...
@crabonarock I dont do MMA myself, but you have to understand that the concept of testing yourself against another martial art is not new. Its been going on since a long time ago where one school will challenge the other.
In general, I think this is good practice. People quickly figure out what works and what do not.
@crabonarock Pressure testing. We feel the need to test ourselves to make sure our stuff actually works without making claims like stuff being "too deadly" to practice.
@crabonarock As I see it... MMA as a sport is more a set of physical skills than a set of principles. This leads to learning combat very well but most dont follow that up with philosophy of any type. Therefore they tend to be agressive and try to be as bad ass as possible. Now, obviously this is not the case for everyone.
@Gioindarkness the philosophy is close to "use what works, discard what doesn't." it's more of a sport with a philosophy than a set of styles. the goal though is to have a complete set of skills in sets of ranges, but not a "specific" style. so you can have an MMA guy that has muai thai, catch wrestling/bjj, boxing and he could be as good as an MMA guy with tkd, karate, bjj, judo/wrestling. as for the aggression, it's the urge to test what you know. how else would you know if it works or not?
@crabonarock ive also have noticed that many ancient martial arts teachers think that their art is the best, but you forget that Bruce Lee said you need to be like water taking the best from each martial art is what you have to do to become the best and I dont see this mma fighter being aggressive he only used his jiu jitsu while ninjitsu guy would of tried to strike
@crabonarock I cant say for others, but what i can say for myself is that i just purely want to test whther my trainning works by competing against others. Its impossible to deny one improve the most through healthy competition against very different opponent. If you been practicing badminton in your backyard for 5 years, woudlnt you want to play against others from all around the world?
@crabonarock There are some like that who make the sport look bad. But for the most part, all the mma fighters I know are really nice people who don't get in anyone's face about anything. They do generally regard BJJ and boxing/muay thai as superior martial arts, but that's not to say that other martial arts don't exist in MMA. Most fighters understand the importance of respecting their opponent's art.
@crabonarock You are beyond retarded. MMA is not an art..it is a mixed of martial arts combine together.
Muay thai, bjj and judo
karate, bjj, boxing
karate and muay thai
all of those can be considered MMA.
"MMA practitioner" LOL, get off the internet you internet martial artist.
As a true "MMA" fighter, I hate these faggots that go around wearing tapout and affliction saying they are "MMA" fighter when they have no idea what the term even means.
@chizokage EXACTLY. IT is a MIXED of MARTIAL ARTS. People are claiming it to be a some type of new fighting style. It is not. Using any different combination of martial arts can be considered MMA.
@HowToDoCalculus Wha? I don't even know what you spelled. To hell with all this terminology shit! USE WHAT WORKS is all I say. Just remember people, if there is no referee "RULES" and "STYLES" go out the fuckin' window. Hopefully along with the guy you just pushed out of it
@crabonarock I'm a traditionalist but I'll defend MMA here. In the old days, fighters always pit themselves against each other to test their skills and see where they were weak. Check out stories of kung fu's lei tai, Okinawa's kake damashi, and samurai duels. It's not a thuggish mentality to wonder how strong your skills actually are and to want to test them out against a real opponent. On the contrary, I think it's the beginning of true humility.
I am so sick of MMA students thinkin they have 're-invented the wheel, these two jokers havn't got a clue. all this crap about Bujinkan not working in real life or its not a combative martial arts, NOT EVERY ARTIST USES THE SAME BRUSH! I am a small petite woman who has worked as door security on nightclubs for many years now, I have over 20 yrs experience of various martial arts, let me tell you something Bujinkan works!(know for sure!!). A true martial artist does not fight for you-tube.
@crabonarock Its not about reinventing the wheel. It is about realizing that the best way to fight is to use the best parts of everything instead of naming your skillset and arguing for that bias. If someone who trains in MMA, and were experienced, you would probably be stunned at how quickly you would be either choked out or knocked out. Nothing against your own abilities but they are narrow.
@crabonarock I think we might be arguing for different goals. My point was more to counter your self appointed authority on the subject because you have "worked the door as security on nightclubs". That doesn't give you any sort of inside edge. I have no disrespect for Bujinkan in any sort of way. I think it has many great elements to it but if someone knows Bujinkan and applies its strong elements to his/her fight game along with a strong wrestling or Muay Thai game they are in a better spot
@beeeri At the end of the day it's all speculation. The problem is, skilled fighters can see a lot of flaws with ... hang on, by MMA do we actually mean people who cross train or MMA as in UFC sport?... flaws in the sport as a means of martial art. I train in 3 arts, so I guess that means I'm MMA and would ALWAYS recommend someone study more than one art. Even the HAGIKURE states that "One should practise other ways to find strength in their own" :)
@notdrockok Yes what I'm saying is exactly that. Training in three different disciplines is mixing martial arts. If you look at someone like Anderson Silva can you call him a Muay Thai fighter? Or a BJJ fighter? Or a boxer? What about Capoeira? All of these are true about Silva but you can't define him as one. He is simply the best fighter in the world.
@josh808m "So much for the "intercepting fist" of Jeet Kune Do"
The description states that they are mates. Punching your mate in the throat or poking him in the eyes isn't very nice.
The fact is that MMA and JKD are two sides of the same coin.
MMA training is great for conditioning and ground skills but you don't want to be on the ground in a street fight. Better to fight standing up with strikes to the eyes, throat, groin and knees & finish up with headsbuts or finger breaks.
I long for the days when the word ninjutsu was obscure and fools didn't prance around proclaiming themselves ninjutsu masters because they saw an episode of Naruto.
@BlueSaryu i think ninjutsu is a funny word.. because it implies that ninja had a technique which to me sounds false.. ninja had a lot of different skills and one was martial arts.. in a way saying there is ninjutsu is like saying there was this one martial arts and that was the true way of the ninja.. a way .. is much more then a jutsu..
even in aikido we are beyond jutsu its a do it has many aspects of the self... its not about jutsu.. therefore i think ninjutsu is a funny name and idea
Nindo is also a thing, if you were unaware. (So is aikijutsu.) The word ninjutsu originally referred to techniques for spycraft and covert operation.
Ninjutsu, in it's modern usage, is more referring to several styles of kobudo jujutsu utilized by families that were involved in ninja activities. Please don't argue with me on semantics, that wasn't at all the point of my comment.
@BlueSaryu Nindo- quit watching Naruto like my daughter and thinking that this must be what everyone uses. NINPO (more current term) instead of Ninjutsu. I agree with everything else you say about the mixture of the families of the stealth assassination arts with Jiujutsu. The bujinkan is actually 9 ryuha, which Hatsumi has the scrolls to. 6 jiujutsu scrolls and 3 ninjutsu schools thus forming the fusion of Ninpo not do. Instead of being do (way) it is po (perseverance).
@BlueSaryu i wsnt arguing with you... i was agreeing with someone saying that ninjutsu this and that... that they teach ninjutsu where as its not just one martial art..as you youself said it is a whole array of things to be a ninja... aikijutsu is a martial art i dont think its the same as being a samurai in teh traditional sense... you are not a samurai just because you know a jutsu or technique.. tha tis what i mean.. just casue you can knock someone out does that make you a ninja?
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
@MumbIingMickey Doesn't matter if I don't know him, it's the fact that he doesn't know me, so the info hes trying to argue isn't readily available to him.
Just like I wouldn't argue with you saying you took a shit 30minutes ago. Because I don't know you, therefore that info isn't readily available to me.
I was introduced to gracie jujitsu in the 1980s its been taught in our jkd class since the begining. Some of my students like to compete look for them representatives of Jeet Kune Do. I'm the teacher
And as far as them punching you while you try. The footwork and body movement done in Aikido moves you out of the alignment of the attack. In Japanese martial arts you move JUST ENOUGH to evade attacks and still be in a good position to counter or destroy the opponent RIGHT AFTER moving. So to the average person it goes unnoticed because we didn't "jump out the way"
that guy in skinny jean definietly doesnt do ninjuitsu...ninjuitsu does joint lock system and bits of geappling similar to jujuitsu as well so where the arm bar either that or this is vdideo must be a propaganda bideo to disrespect ninjuitsu to mma which is clearly obvious for there is dozen of other mma propaganda video
ooo interesting the MMA guy was pretty good but the ninjutsu guy had a big oppoprtunity to turn the tables on him and he missed it actually I several times where he couldve escaped by simply standing back up, he needs a bit of work. this isnt a street fight more of a competition kinda like MMA a street fight is a lot sloppier this look far to organized to call it a street fight
i don't think this video is titled properly, but let's get one thing straight...in combat everyone will be bringing a weapon. so ninjitsu or not, everyone is going to going away bleeding. but correct me if i'm wrong but weapons are only the extension of the hand...a 'NINJA' should be adept in hand-to-hand combat.
i guess real-world application is MUCH different than your sensei saying, see you hold him right here and you can do....THIS. ...and THAT!
@specialforces69 Boxing reigns in hand to hand. BJJ is pure grappling competition. MMA is what the true essence of what Bruce Lee thought of, and that is to take in what is useful and use it through combinations of martial arts. JKD specializes in that.
real ninjutsu is combat not sport. several areas he could have defeated him if it was a real fight. groin shots/ripping, grabbing ripping ears, and from the naked choke clip folder blades can come into play and opened his inner thigh up. There are no rules in ninjutsu. combat isnt sports.
@KageyamaBujinkan wow...i'm all for martial arts...but not martial arts fuckery. ninjitsu is at best effective when taking on a person who is not expecting an attack or skilled to defend. ufc fighters aren't the pedigree by no means, but what people are seeing is that a navy seal, ninja master, etc. still can get their asses kicked by a simple take down, punch, knee...
it's all about application and if you're art doesn't provide a direct approach to application...well?
@BlackShinobiShozoku ...so you're saying the ninjitsu shouldn't be application ready? i'm confused. ninjitsu is a practical and straight forward discipline. even the spiritual aspect is not just about meditating for the sake of centering the mind, but essentially a practice to further propel a practitioner FORWARD.
ninjitsu is about getting IT DONE. i'm sure there are practitioners that exemplify ninjitsu...but mastery of it ELUSIVE.
@heykevinb Ninjutsu has everything to do with enduring. Historically Shinobi had to endure a lot during their missions and be very patient. And it wasn't always about being elusive.
A little known fact about Ninjutsu; it is the original Historic version of battlelfield MMA. Thats why there are so many different styles hidden within the art of MMA. You have Koto ryu Koppojutsu, Gyokko Ryu Kosshijutsu and especially ground fighting; which this TV watching guy in the Jeans clearly has no clue how to ground fight; he even makes JKD look bad.
put fight videos on youtube and everyone's a black belt. MMA is a sport yes. So are any martial arts in the form of a competition. Just because the MMA fighter is doing a sport, doesn't mean he can't use what he knows to kick your sorry ass out of your computer chair. it doesn't matter whether you do MMA or karate or ninjutsu. How much time did you spend training? how hard do you train? How hard do you physically condition? (if you ask bruce lee the latter is the most important)
@2PacsUncle in mma training you're not prepared for any attack do the groin or mouth when training JJ for example you get techniques that require you to attack there or even in the eyes for kung fu
@BlackShinobiShozoku ok so let me get this straight... im gonna throw a punch and they will dodge it and grab my arm before i pull it back from the punch somehow then get in position to try to throw me and blah blah blah
You don't understand whats going on. That's a drill.
That's like watching a BJJ video about shrimping and saying "so let me get this straight, I am going to slide my butt across the floor to defend myself? Yeah right!"
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SuperOwni 5 days ago
That dude wasn't doing anything like Ninjutsu. In Ninjutsu, we never let ourselves become off balance, we always have something to guard our face, and neither of locks the MMA guy used were particularly difficult to escape from, in fact there's ways to kill him from inside both locks.
teagm003 1 week ago
@teagm003 that's funny that you say theres a way to kill someone from inside a rear naked choke. a rear naked choke is a pretty easy way to kill someone too. id like to hear your explanation.
stevedusome 5 days ago
@stevedusome The most common mistake is trying to pull yourself out, that just puts their arm further up your neck and stops your blood flow faster. If you hold your arm out as if it's around someone neck, you'll find there is a pressure point on the underside of the elbow joint. And I'm sure you're familiar with the 'funny bone' thing. if you use your knuckles to tap the funny bone, and then a thumb to push the pressure point.. PART 1
teagm003 5 days ago
@stevedusome PART 2:
MOST (not all) people will loosen up a tiny bit for a half second or less... This is almost time to turn your head towards their other arm. At the same time you use your other hand to pull your own head to the side, this allows one side of your neck to be free, so you have a few more seconds of conciousness. Then you use the pressure point hand to reach around and rip their hand off the back of your head...
teagm003 5 days ago
@stevedusome PART 3:
This is hard, but made possible my the fact they now know you're trying to escape and push your head further forward. Once that's done, you can feel free to head but them. Now their bodies natural reactions give you a chance to tuck your face down to your shoulder, and use the leverage gained to pull free. Before he grabs you again, you need to do something to make him realise it's not a good idea. His wrist should still be on your shoulder, so go ahead and grab that...
teagm003 5 days ago
@stevedusome PART 4:
then use your pressure point hand to reach across his elbow and grab the same wrist. Now roll towards the wrist, his legs will probably stay around you, but that's no big deal, first deal with the breathing issue. From there it's pretty much a standard escape. The other way my Sensei taught me is that you can pull on the elbow of the arm the is grabbing, then his hand will slip off your head if you pull hard enough.
teagm003 5 days ago
Bro that street looks like a basement gym.
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what is fuxxxx nin jitsu?????
beastjung 1 week ago
idiots
TheLastFraudster 1 week ago
That couldn't have been a ninjutsu street fight, I didn't see anyone get stabbed.
SysAdmin86851 1 week ago 5
that is not ninjutsu
we have to remember ninjas were high level special force spys of feudal japan
first of all the ninja would not even have been seen and if he was he would be pulling out a craftly weapon to kill his enemy
but hey that MMA guy in the video did a good job in taking his prey down.It was like watching a spider crawl all over a poor house fly
NYWAORCANZ 1 week ago
The term mma stands for "mixed martial arts" so your friend that allegedly studies Ninjutsu and Jeet Kune Do is classifed as an MMA fighter........just thought I would clarify that.
SandmanFightingSys 1 week ago
MMA IS A SPORT NOT A TYPE OF MARTIAL ARTS
Retarded shit. Look at the description of this shitty video "one trained in muay thai/mma"
LOL, fucking retarded wanna be fighters. the fact that you are using muay thai combining it with another martial arts make it MMA..
HowToDoCalculus 1 week ago
good lesson for all martial artists who think that a style is not important
marekmaxpabianice 1 week ago
why is it that everyone who goes against a mma practioner always gets into a wrestling match, rear naked choke don't count for shit when he's not wearing a cup and he doesn't want to roll with you when you're gonna jab him in the eyes
chizokage 1 week ago
@chizokage
Maybe it's because that's reality. You can fantasize about poking eyes and hitting groin etc but it's not so easy as you might think. Instead of theorizing over the internet, maybe you should give it a try and find out the hard way yourself.
mild7p 1 week ago
@mild7p maybe I said it because I've done it, but you could learn all about if you want to meet up and have a round
chizokage 1 week ago
MMA makes sense. In some situations you have to be offensive to protect yourself. In the case of MMA as the sport, it is the constant practice of being in a one-on-one situation which is common but not always the case on the street. Comparing these two is apples to oranges. Ninjitsu is stealthy, quick, absolute and can never be a sport. It all comes down to the practitioner anyway. Some people are just better athletes and it has nothing to do with style at that point.
jabreninja 2 weeks ago
i dont think that dude knew how to fight at all much less was he a ninja
theannunakikid 2 weeks ago
MMA is a sport. I've been training MMA. But a Real Ninja would have cut off his head by now.
luckydogvegas 2 weeks ago
how can you compare ninjitsu to mma? a true ninja would not have been seen and the mma fighter would have been dead with out even nowing an oponent was in the room! to different worlds ninjas dont fight the assasinate!
dakine400 2 weeks ago
@dakine400 Crazy putting a Ninja against an MMA,two different worlds,that MMA guy would be dead even before he knew it,they are killing machines with no rules.
remotaurog 1 week ago
why do i keep seeing "MMA vs Ninjutsu" everywhere?what's with all the rivalry? lol
DarkSignal59 2 weeks ago
@hallpassism
Have you ever seen a ninja. Yeah thats what i thought. Find me a REAL ninja then we'll talk. otherwise this video looks stupid. BJJ all the way.
MrHuntingHawk 2 weeks ago
wasnt these fucking idiots on dr phil
dawud12341 2 weeks ago
the ninjutsu guy can hardly be called a ninjutsu practitioner since he did not demonstrate anything that look like ninjutsu
MaestroKong 2 weeks ago
of course he lost he's wearing capris and a vest, girly boy
onthenashwaak 2 weeks ago
jajaja
peinethc 2 weeks ago
When did MMA become it's own martial art?
AMillerStephen 2 weeks ago
Two totally different forms of combat. Ninjitsu is as about deception, almost a spy form of combat. Mma is one on one until someone taps or goes lights out. Still expected better with jkd mixed in.
spartan1171984 2 weeks ago
they both suck.
BuckeyeRedTV 2 weeks ago
lol Where the ninjutsu? where the shooto. All i see is bs.
tombslasher 3 weeks ago
mma? seriously? mma stands for MIXED! martial arts, they don't even know what they're doing... no hooks? he could of had the rear naked from the moment they went to the ground. And yes for all the haters, I do know what I'm talking about, I train Jiu-Jitsu, I know the ground game well
Lexmark117 3 weeks ago
@Lexmark117 The guy had a headlock on him. He had to pop the headlock off first. Once he did that, he moved on his back put his hooks in and got the choke.
IpponDropkick 2 weeks ago
Nigga got got!! lol
cabrame 3 weeks ago
yes this is ninjutsu im sure
biggymaxigo 3 weeks ago
mma best
biggymaxigo 3 weeks ago
@hallpassism That's sad. It really is a shame because the both the media and modern teachers are so overwhelmed with reputation and attention that they forget the full picture. I have travelled the world and met some real, hard-core do not mess with them MA practitioners and the one thing they all had in common: peaceful, respectful and kind. It's as if once a person really knows how to kill, they don't feel fear and don't therefore need to oppress.
notdrockok 3 weeks ago
@hallpassism how is bjj useless?
sovietninja3 3 weeks ago
@sovietninja3 Maybe useless is a bit harsh, as there is a place for it in our sheltered society, but it certainly isn't useful in a martial/war aspect. I've trained with guys who, if you grab them, will grin, shift, sink, expel and basically destroy your hand/arm/shoulder/hip in a second, making submission arts totally unacceptable... and I'm not flaming anyone's art, it's just fact. We all, as MA students, need to be much more sensible and less directed by media.
notdrockok 3 weeks ago
@notdrockok well personally as a martial arts student myself, there are several techniques from jujitsu that are useful to me and my style. maybe not for you though
sovietninja3 3 weeks ago
that... was not...ninjitsu lol
MrHuntingHawk 3 weeks ago
@MrHuntingHawk nor is it on the street... do ninjas fight? I thought they assassinate and disappear undetected... the MMA guy should be in the room on his own, then just fall over dead. That would be MMA vs Ninjutsu lol
notdrockok 3 weeks ago
@notdrockok yeah thats exactly what i meant. A ninja would not fight like that lol
MrHuntingHawk 2 weeks ago
No offence to any style. Hopefully our comments will educate people. I do agree with TheRogueMonk and hope to see more development in MMA. x
crabonarock 1 month ago
Just so you know I'm not disrespecting MMA or any other fighting form, but i have noticed how many MMA students become increasingly aggressive and feel the need to pit themselves against other matial arts, there is nothing to be found but a 'thuggish mentality', where is the enlightenment and honour that needs to be present in any self respecting martial artist? Enjoy whatever works for you, but do not underestimate what works for others> Good luck x
crabonarock 1 month ago 34
@crabonarock I believe that is because many martial artists from other martial arts styles often discredit and disrespect MMA
wipeoutolympics 1 month ago
@wipeoutolympics
I agree. They just consider mma fighters as thugs with no skill. Big mistake to underestimate them on their part
fromstart2finish 1 month ago
@crabonarock i like your comment , although as an MMA practitioner i can tell you that not all MMA students are aggressive i'm not aggressive neither my training partners , i think that depends of the person and the coach not the discipline
ultimatemanofwar 1 month ago 4
@ultimatemanofwar
I'm a Krav Maga practitioner which is inherently aggressive. However, even though I'm quite a big and aggressive guy, I'm very controlled. I dislike people (newbies or higher level practitioners) who feel the need to be overly aggressive and actually end up hurting you for no reason. My left quad still hurts from this guy who felt the need to full force knee me whilst sparring. It's just annoying since I'm not out to hurt anybody nor would I full force spar.
dazzelya 1 week ago
@crabonarock A lot of the time I find its the Traditional Martial Artist who come ofter MMA fighters because theyre stuck on the concept of "my style is the best" I started doing tkd when I was 12, stopped at 13 but will start again, then wrestled from 14 to now im 17, and 6 months ago started jiu jitsu, mma, and we have other martial artist teach us some techniques from various arts, even Bruce Lee said he doesnt believe in 1 style, he is the original mixed martial artist, sorry this is so long
babyblack94 1 month ago
@babyblack94 It must be devastating for some martial artists to have spent a great part of their lives to have it so easily dis-proven. Joe Rogan was a Champion of TaeKwondo and said himself how his life of dedication was turned upside down having studied MMA. I still think there is a lot of respect,, GSP Couture are all decent fighters. Now that guys like Tito and Ken Shamrock/Brock are gone things can improve.
punishr36 1 month ago
@punishr36 Yeah I rememeber watching the video where he says that just a few days ago, im glad he says that its not 100% like most styles will claim but he doesnt completely bash it saying its worthless, just that some moves work in the cage and some dont, some for the street and some for show, ya know?
babyblack94 1 month ago
@crabonarock ...... What works for MMA, generally works. Period. It's called "Mixed Martial Arts" for a reason. You take what is effective and works, and ditch the useless crap.
migraine516 1 month ago
@crabonarock probably you are right but mma is young .. it will probably end up with some masters who become more passionate about the self developement behind it... i agree with you .. that is why i say mma can be considered a martial art but not deffinetly to me atleast
TheRogueMonk 1 month ago
@crabonarock exactly. the like the ninjitsu guy who got thrown and choked out. he should not be underestimated. after all, he might have pepper spray, or lots of friends
TheLimivorous 1 month ago
@crabonarock what is it that works for others? we will incorporate it in what we do... because that's what we do... you can like it or hate it, doesn't really matter cause we did it and it stuck..
TopShelfization 4 weeks ago
@crabonarock on top of which where's the refinement in the art? It's like two stags locking horns for territory. I see no higher learning from Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Besides, GJJ isn't going to help me with a bunch of angry Millwall football fans armed to the teeth with broken bottles, skivs, knives and grenades...
notdrockok 3 weeks ago
@crabonarock I dont do MMA myself, but you have to understand that the concept of testing yourself against another martial art is not new. Its been going on since a long time ago where one school will challenge the other.
In general, I think this is good practice. People quickly figure out what works and what do not.
MrBadabing1234 3 weeks ago
@crabonarock Pressure testing. We feel the need to test ourselves to make sure our stuff actually works without making claims like stuff being "too deadly" to practice.
IpponDropkick 2 weeks ago
@crabonarock As I see it... MMA as a sport is more a set of physical skills than a set of principles. This leads to learning combat very well but most dont follow that up with philosophy of any type. Therefore they tend to be agressive and try to be as bad ass as possible. Now, obviously this is not the case for everyone.
Gioindarkness 2 weeks ago
@Gioindarkness the philosophy is close to "use what works, discard what doesn't." it's more of a sport with a philosophy than a set of styles. the goal though is to have a complete set of skills in sets of ranges, but not a "specific" style. so you can have an MMA guy that has muai thai, catch wrestling/bjj, boxing and he could be as good as an MMA guy with tkd, karate, bjj, judo/wrestling. as for the aggression, it's the urge to test what you know. how else would you know if it works or not?
idleeidolon 2 weeks ago
@crabonarock ive also have noticed that many ancient martial arts teachers think that their art is the best, but you forget that Bruce Lee said you need to be like water taking the best from each martial art is what you have to do to become the best and I dont see this mma fighter being aggressive he only used his jiu jitsu while ninjitsu guy would of tried to strike
missionkid 2 weeks ago
@crabonarock I cant say for others, but what i can say for myself is that i just purely want to test whther my trainning works by competing against others. Its impossible to deny one improve the most through healthy competition against very different opponent. If you been practicing badminton in your backyard for 5 years, woudlnt you want to play against others from all around the world?
lain777 2 weeks ago
@crabonarock There are some like that who make the sport look bad. But for the most part, all the mma fighters I know are really nice people who don't get in anyone's face about anything. They do generally regard BJJ and boxing/muay thai as superior martial arts, but that's not to say that other martial arts don't exist in MMA. Most fighters understand the importance of respecting their opponent's art.
Idrivethe405 2 weeks ago
@crabonarock You are beyond retarded. MMA is not an art..it is a mixed of martial arts combine together.
Muay thai, bjj and judo
karate, bjj, boxing
karate and muay thai
all of those can be considered MMA.
"MMA practitioner" LOL, get off the internet you internet martial artist.
As a true "MMA" fighter, I hate these faggots that go around wearing tapout and affliction saying they are "MMA" fighter when they have no idea what the term even means.
HowToDoCalculus 1 week ago
@HowToDoCalculus You do know that M.M.A. is an abreviated term and not a word? It stands for Mixed Martial ARTS
chizokage 1 week ago
@chizokage EXACTLY. IT is a MIXED of MARTIAL ARTS. People are claiming it to be a some type of new fighting style. It is not. Using any different combination of martial arts can be considered MMA.
HowToDoCalculus 1 week ago
@HowToDoCalculus Wha? I don't even know what you spelled. To hell with all this terminology shit! USE WHAT WORKS is all I say. Just remember people, if there is no referee "RULES" and "STYLES" go out the fuckin' window. Hopefully along with the guy you just pushed out of it
chizokage 1 week ago
@crabonarock I'm a traditionalist but I'll defend MMA here. In the old days, fighters always pit themselves against each other to test their skills and see where they were weak. Check out stories of kung fu's lei tai, Okinawa's kake damashi, and samurai duels. It's not a thuggish mentality to wonder how strong your skills actually are and to want to test them out against a real opponent. On the contrary, I think it's the beginning of true humility.
TrueAustinite1 1 week ago
I am so sick of MMA students thinkin they have 're-invented the wheel, these two jokers havn't got a clue. all this crap about Bujinkan not working in real life or its not a combative martial arts, NOT EVERY ARTIST USES THE SAME BRUSH! I am a small petite woman who has worked as door security on nightclubs for many years now, I have over 20 yrs experience of various martial arts, let me tell you something Bujinkan works!(know for sure!!). A true martial artist does not fight for you-tube.
crabonarock 1 month ago
@crabonarock Thank you.
shengchenfan 1 month ago
@crabonarock Its not about reinventing the wheel. It is about realizing that the best way to fight is to use the best parts of everything instead of naming your skillset and arguing for that bias. If someone who trains in MMA, and were experienced, you would probably be stunned at how quickly you would be either choked out or knocked out. Nothing against your own abilities but they are narrow.
beeeri 1 month ago
@beeeri hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! x
crabonarock 1 month ago
@crabonarock I think we might be arguing for different goals. My point was more to counter your self appointed authority on the subject because you have "worked the door as security on nightclubs". That doesn't give you any sort of inside edge. I have no disrespect for Bujinkan in any sort of way. I think it has many great elements to it but if someone knows Bujinkan and applies its strong elements to his/her fight game along with a strong wrestling or Muay Thai game they are in a better spot
beeeri 1 month ago
@beeeri At the end of the day it's all speculation. The problem is, skilled fighters can see a lot of flaws with ... hang on, by MMA do we actually mean people who cross train or MMA as in UFC sport?... flaws in the sport as a means of martial art. I train in 3 arts, so I guess that means I'm MMA and would ALWAYS recommend someone study more than one art. Even the HAGIKURE states that "One should practise other ways to find strength in their own" :)
notdrockok 3 weeks ago
@notdrockok Yes what I'm saying is exactly that. Training in three different disciplines is mixing martial arts. If you look at someone like Anderson Silva can you call him a Muay Thai fighter? Or a BJJ fighter? Or a boxer? What about Capoeira? All of these are true about Silva but you can't define him as one. He is simply the best fighter in the world.
beeeri 2 weeks ago
How is ninjutsu June kun do? You don't have a clue what your talking about
BlueF0x93 1 month ago
Shouldn't this be trained fighter vs. no practical experience?
pandnh4 1 month ago
So much for the "intercepting fist" of Jeet Kune Do
josh808m 1 month ago
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@josh808m "So much for the "intercepting fist" of Jeet Kune Do"
The description states that they are mates. Punching your mate in the throat or poking him in the eyes isn't very nice.
The fact is that MMA and JKD are two sides of the same coin.
MMA training is great for conditioning and ground skills but you don't want to be on the ground in a street fight. Better to fight standing up with strikes to the eyes, throat, groin and knees & finish up with headsbuts or finger breaks.
Do both
baldieman64 1 month ago
BTW- Ninjas are ghey
rojoification 1 month ago
why would they ever post this? DISLIKE!!
rojoification 1 month ago
With the rise of MMA everyone and their mother think they are a MMA fighter.
I can trll neither of you have any trainning in MMa
DGN615 1 month ago
that was actually an ok fight compared to all the other fake youtube fights, what's with all the dislikes? fuckin keyboard warriors lol
ykcor69 1 month ago
@ykcor69 they don't understand grappling
ngtobzzz 1 month ago
@Vangw0830 what do you know about fight ? --'
lesgrosporcdesifs 1 month ago
Why do these things always end in the missionary position?
DirtyCommunist 1 month ago
I long for the days when the word ninjutsu was obscure and fools didn't prance around proclaiming themselves ninjutsu masters because they saw an episode of Naruto.
BlueSaryu 1 month ago 31
@BlueSaryu i think ninjutsu is a funny word.. because it implies that ninja had a technique which to me sounds false.. ninja had a lot of different skills and one was martial arts.. in a way saying there is ninjutsu is like saying there was this one martial arts and that was the true way of the ninja.. a way .. is much more then a jutsu..
even in aikido we are beyond jutsu its a do it has many aspects of the self... its not about jutsu.. therefore i think ninjutsu is a funny name and idea
TheRogueMonk 1 month ago
@TheRogueMonk
Nindo is also a thing, if you were unaware. (So is aikijutsu.) The word ninjutsu originally referred to techniques for spycraft and covert operation.
Ninjutsu, in it's modern usage, is more referring to several styles of kobudo jujutsu utilized by families that were involved in ninja activities. Please don't argue with me on semantics, that wasn't at all the point of my comment.
BlueSaryu 3 weeks ago
@BlueSaryu Nindo- quit watching Naruto like my daughter and thinking that this must be what everyone uses. NINPO (more current term) instead of Ninjutsu. I agree with everything else you say about the mixture of the families of the stealth assassination arts with Jiujutsu. The bujinkan is actually 9 ryuha, which Hatsumi has the scrolls to. 6 jiujutsu scrolls and 3 ninjutsu schools thus forming the fusion of Ninpo not do. Instead of being do (way) it is po (perseverance).
jerrwolf 3 weeks ago
@BlueSaryu i wsnt arguing with you... i was agreeing with someone saying that ninjutsu this and that... that they teach ninjutsu where as its not just one martial art..as you youself said it is a whole array of things to be a ninja... aikijutsu is a martial art i dont think its the same as being a samurai in teh traditional sense... you are not a samurai just because you know a jutsu or technique.. tha tis what i mean.. just casue you can knock someone out does that make you a ninja?
TheRogueMonk 3 weeks ago
@BlueSaryu if you can kill someone swiftly does that make you a ninja? or just a murderor..or a vioent and dangerous individual
TheRogueMonk 3 weeks ago
@BlueSaryu the leather vest didn't help either
TheLimivorous 1 month ago
@BlueSaryu Thats impossible, because no one only sees an episode
lain777 2 weeks ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku
Learn English before speaking with grown ups kid
MumbIingMickey 1 month ago
lol i love this video~ he released a shadow clone at 0:06 >_<
ShuyuKoukin 1 month ago
u have disapointed me young ninja'h o.o
ThePeopleneedhelp 1 month ago
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TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
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TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
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TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
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Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
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Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
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Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
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TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
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TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
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TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
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TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
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TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
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TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku
how do you know hes not teling the truth? What if he is and you're lying?
MumbIingMickey 2 months ago
@MumbIingMickey Mostly because he doesn't know me.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 months ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku What if you don't really know him and he's telling the truth? What's to say he's not right?
MumbIingMickey 2 months ago
@MumbIingMickey this guy was a chinese ninja. only japanese martial arts work. no others do
TheKanegawaboy 2 months ago
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@TheKanegawaboy
Hey kane, it's chris again. You keep deleting my message. This is me in the video. I was drunk off my ass. But my name isn't paul vunak. Why do you say it is? Is he like a karate guy or something? Also you made that keysi vs mma and mma vs tma and are hounding some guy named blackshinobishozoku. Why are you trolling on youtube, dog? We've got like tests coming up and shit. You should be studying like the rest of us or we aint gonna graduate this year...
TheKanagawaboy 2 months ago
@MumbIingMickey Doesn't matter if I don't know him, it's the fact that he doesn't know me, so the info hes trying to argue isn't readily available to him.
Just like I wouldn't argue with you saying you took a shit 30minutes ago. Because I don't know you, therefore that info isn't readily available to me.
Anyways don't waste my time. Kiddo.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 months ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku Well if the info isn't available then his story is just as legitimate as yours.
MumbIingMickey 2 months ago
@MumbIingMickey Obviously you don't understand english very well.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 months ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku Coming from a guy who doesn't capitalize the E in English.
MumbIingMickey 2 months ago
@MumbIingMickey Oh my?!?! I missed a capitalization, well I guess I better recant everything I said.
You would like that wouldn't you?
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 months ago
I was introduced to gracie jujitsu in the 1980s its been taught in our jkd class since the begining. Some of my students like to compete look for them representatives of Jeet Kune Do. I'm the teacher
dawadah67 2 months ago
And as far as them punching you while you try. The footwork and body movement done in Aikido moves you out of the alignment of the attack. In Japanese martial arts you move JUST ENOUGH to evade attacks and still be in a good position to counter or destroy the opponent RIGHT AFTER moving. So to the average person it goes unnoticed because we didn't "jump out the way"
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 months ago
that guy in skinny jean definietly doesnt do ninjuitsu...ninjuitsu does joint lock system and bits of geappling similar to jujuitsu as well so where the arm bar either that or this is vdideo must be a propaganda bideo to disrespect ninjuitsu to mma which is clearly obvious for there is dozen of other mma propaganda video
asian714cali 2 months ago
>Mexican in skinny jeans prancing around
Even my lazy non-fighting ass knows that guy hasn't been trained in shit.
SeaShellNecklaceBrah 2 months ago
ooo interesting the MMA guy was pretty good but the ninjutsu guy had a big oppoprtunity to turn the tables on him and he missed it actually I several times where he couldve escaped by simply standing back up, he needs a bit of work. this isnt a street fight more of a competition kinda like MMA a street fight is a lot sloppier this look far to organized to call it a street fight
acefrom1836 2 months ago
@acefrom1836 This is not Ninjutsu in any shape or fashion.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 months ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku lolz thanks for the correction I simply used the ninjutsu as a way of labeling the guy thank you though
acefrom1836 2 months ago
i love ninjitsu....but that guy with the jeans needs to train more cuz from wat im seeyin' is not that good....but that block waz pretty good.
erijohn2000 2 months ago
i don't think this video is titled properly, but let's get one thing straight...in combat everyone will be bringing a weapon. so ninjitsu or not, everyone is going to going away bleeding. but correct me if i'm wrong but weapons are only the extension of the hand...a 'NINJA' should be adept in hand-to-hand combat.
i guess real-world application is MUCH different than your sensei saying, see you hold him right here and you can do....THIS. ...and THAT!
you got to be able to apply the art.
heykevinb 2 months ago
@specialforces69 Boxing reigns in hand to hand. BJJ is pure grappling competition. MMA is what the true essence of what Bruce Lee thought of, and that is to take in what is useful and use it through combinations of martial arts. JKD specializes in that.
PimpingRice 2 months ago
What a joke.
TehNavySeal 2 months ago
real ninjutsu is combat not sport. several areas he could have defeated him if it was a real fight. groin shots/ripping, grabbing ripping ears, and from the naked choke clip folder blades can come into play and opened his inner thigh up. There are no rules in ninjutsu. combat isnt sports.
KageyamaBujinkan 2 months ago
@KageyamaBujinkan wow...i'm all for martial arts...but not martial arts fuckery. ninjitsu is at best effective when taking on a person who is not expecting an attack or skilled to defend. ufc fighters aren't the pedigree by no means, but what people are seeing is that a navy seal, ninja master, etc. still can get their asses kicked by a simple take down, punch, knee...
it's all about application and if you're art doesn't provide a direct approach to application...well?
heykevinb 2 months ago
@heykevinb If you think that about Ninjutsu, then you obviously don't know anything about Ninjutsu.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 months ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku ...so you're saying the ninjitsu shouldn't be application ready? i'm confused. ninjitsu is a practical and straight forward discipline. even the spiritual aspect is not just about meditating for the sake of centering the mind, but essentially a practice to further propel a practitioner FORWARD.
ninjitsu is about getting IT DONE. i'm sure there are practitioners that exemplify ninjitsu...but mastery of it ELUSIVE.
heykevinb 2 months ago
@heykevinb Ninjutsu has everything to do with enduring. Historically Shinobi had to endure a lot during their missions and be very patient. And it wasn't always about being elusive.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 months ago
A little known fact about Ninjutsu; it is the original Historic version of battlelfield MMA. Thats why there are so many different styles hidden within the art of MMA. You have Koto ryu Koppojutsu, Gyokko Ryu Kosshijutsu and especially ground fighting; which this TV watching guy in the Jeans clearly has no clue how to ground fight; he even makes JKD look bad.
Keaos0 2 months ago
put fight videos on youtube and everyone's a black belt. MMA is a sport yes. So are any martial arts in the form of a competition. Just because the MMA fighter is doing a sport, doesn't mean he can't use what he knows to kick your sorry ass out of your computer chair. it doesn't matter whether you do MMA or karate or ninjutsu. How much time did you spend training? how hard do you train? How hard do you physically condition? (if you ask bruce lee the latter is the most important)
Nolan5k 2 months ago
they both suck
TheYogibear111 2 months ago
mma always wins
SStrangeMoFlo 2 months ago
@SStrangeMoFlo MMA is a SPORT not a street fight.
jfwatson10 2 months ago
@SStrangeMoFlo If only you had more knowledge of real martial arts, rather than what you watch on UFC.
SwordOfWulves 2 months ago
@SwordOfWulves Hiya!
SStrangeMoFlo 2 months ago
@SwordOfWulves rofl
all that "real" martial arts like ninjustu would get killed in the ufc.
2PacsUncle 2 months ago
@2PacsUncle and mma training would get you killed in real life situations...
desitedecave 2 months ago
@desitedecave how?
learning all effective martial arts has no harm in "real life situations"
2PacsUncle 2 months ago
@2PacsUncle in mma training you're not prepared for any attack do the groin or mouth when training JJ for example you get techniques that require you to attack there or even in the eyes for kung fu
desitedecave 2 months ago
@desitedecave ur retarded, kungfu is fake, and what do u mean by JJ?
2PacsUncle 2 months ago
@2PacsUncle ok you should just stop arguing if you don't know what jiu jitsu is and if you think kung fu is fake.
desitedecave 2 months ago
@desitedecave say jiu jitsu, not JJ.
and kungfu is fake just like alkido and all that crap.
and mma has TONS of high level jj guys
2PacsUncle 2 months ago
@2PacsUncle Kung Fu and Aikido isn't fake.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 months ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku they arnt fake they just dont work very well in a fight.
2PacsUncle 2 months ago
@2PacsUncle Yeah they do. Throwing someone onto a hard surface and joint locking someone will definitely be effective during a fight.
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 months ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku ok so let me get this straight... im gonna throw a punch and they will dodge it and grab my arm before i pull it back from the punch somehow then get in position to try to throw me and blah blah blah
yeah.. right..
2PacsUncle 2 months ago
@2PacsUncle
-sigh-
You don't understand whats going on. That's a drill.
That's like watching a BJJ video about shrimping and saying "so let me get this straight, I am going to slide my butt across the floor to defend myself? Yeah right!"
BlackShinobiShozoku 2 months ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku ok so explain to me how alkido or whatever will be used in a fight?
2PacsUncle 2 months ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku EXPLAIN BUDDY! EXPLAIN HOW ALIKDO WILL WORK IN A FIGHT
2PacsUncle 2 months ago
@2PacsUncle why don't u try answering a question, like, how boxing works in a fight?
DespairIIIX 2 months ago
@DespairIIIX u punch them and knock them the fck out?
2PacsUncle 2 months ago
@2PacsUncle then you can also slam them on the ground and break their back. Whatever you decide to do, it's gunna work.
DespairIIIX 2 months ago
@DespairIIIX sorry but thats not gonna happen
2PacsUncle 2 months ago