I'm afraid I must reiterate my point that you obviously have never sung with real chamber ensemble and have absolutely no idea as to what you are talking about.
IF and this is a big I F - if your choral group needs the baton then your conductor FAILED at teaching you the music properly in the first place. It is always about ego.
I am very good and both spelling and grammar unless of course its when I am very tired. Yes it is the conductors choice to use a baton but it has been my experience that the baton is only used when the ego is involved. They couldn't get the real job they wanted conducting an orchestra so they over compensate by using the baton to conduct chamber. I cannot, I will not submit to your notion that using a baton is more effective in conducting choral ensembles.
Of all the conductors I have ever sung under this one was my favorite because he used a baton and actually knew how to properly use it. For complex choral instruction, it is a great aid.
Also, he has a history with the Air Force Band which uses a baton so old habits die hard.
@prayn4daylighthc Ignorant, simply ignorant.. You clearly have no idea what a baton or hands are used for in conducting nor the merits and weaknesses of both. Learn your subject before you criticise.
On the actual subject of choral directing, whether or not to use a baton is a conductor's personal preference. Either method is valid. However, I have heard of a study where performances of orchestras and choral ensembles were analyzed and those that were conducted without a baton went out of tune quicker and farther. A baton gives one clear reference point...
@prayn4daylighthc ...rather than multiple unclear points and tends to keep an ensemble in better time and closer intonation. This is not to say that one cannot successfully conduct with their hands, one can. But a baton is a VERY valid and probably more efficient and effective method of conducting a choral ensemble.
@prayn4daylighthc Also, I've studied with that conductor for years now in various musical capacities and he has more talent and knowledge than anyone you will ever meet. So keep your ignorant and, I must stoop to pointing out, very inarticulately stated thoughts to yourself.
one of my favorite performances of this song! fantastic job!
frogpink25 10 months ago
I'm afraid I must reiterate my point that you obviously have never sung with real chamber ensemble and have absolutely no idea as to what you are talking about.
Muffynz 1 year ago
IF and this is a big I F - if your choral group needs the baton then your conductor FAILED at teaching you the music properly in the first place. It is always about ego.
prayn4daylighthc 1 year ago
IF and this is a big I F - if your choral group needs the baton then your conductor FAILED at teaching you the music properly in the first place.
prayn4daylighthc 1 year ago
I am very good and both spelling and grammar unless of course its when I am very tired. Yes it is the conductors choice to use a baton but it has been my experience that the baton is only used when the ego is involved. They couldn't get the real job they wanted conducting an orchestra so they over compensate by using the baton to conduct chamber. I cannot, I will not submit to your notion that using a baton is more effective in conducting choral ensembles.
prayn4daylighthc 1 year ago
Of all the conductors I have ever sung under this one was my favorite because he used a baton and actually knew how to properly use it. For complex choral instruction, it is a great aid.
Also, he has a history with the Air Force Band which uses a baton so old habits die hard.
Muffynz 1 year ago
So is the guy conducting or direction - He needs to learn how to coral direct - put the baton down - I am sure you are using it for ego
prayn4daylighthc 1 year ago
@prayn4daylighthc Ignorant, simply ignorant.. You clearly have no idea what a baton or hands are used for in conducting nor the merits and weaknesses of both. Learn your subject before you criticise.
MusicStudyMan 1 year ago
@prayn4daylighthc You need to learn how to spell. Also, grammar is a fun subject. You should study it sometime.
MrWoodard91 1 year ago
@prayn4daylighthc @prayn4daylighthc You need to learn how to spell. Also, grammar is a fun subject. You should study it sometime.
On the actual subject of choral directing, whether or not to use a baton is a conductor's personal preference. Either method is valid. However, I have heard of a study where performances of orchestras and choral ensembles were analyzed and those that were conducted without a baton went out of tune quicker and farther. A baton gives one clear reference point...
MrWoodard91 1 year ago
@prayn4daylighthc ...rather than multiple unclear points and tends to keep an ensemble in better time and closer intonation. This is not to say that one cannot successfully conduct with their hands, one can. But a baton is a VERY valid and probably more efficient and effective method of conducting a choral ensemble.
MrWoodard91 1 year ago
@prayn4daylighthc Also, I've studied with that conductor for years now in various musical capacities and he has more talent and knowledge than anyone you will ever meet. So keep your ignorant and, I must stoop to pointing out, very inarticulately stated thoughts to yourself.
MrWoodard91 1 year ago
You guys sound fantastic!
jenmoa 2 years ago
"OI" and, again I say,"OI" for Kutler.
IUFTR 3 years ago
yay Mads! thanks for putting these videos up! Man I'm gonna miss Mads!
goldberry921 4 years ago