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  • Hey, ICS, I was wondering if I can put a split gearbox upper and lower into any standard metal m4 body? I really need to get a new gearbox, and I love the idea of the 2 piece gearbox making maintenance much easier, but I don't want to buy both pieces and figure out that they're specific to ICS bodies.

  • i have a ics m4 and i want to run a

    m95 or m100 spring

    9.6 volt 2000mah battery

    and maybe a swiss chessed piston would this gun hold up to the rof? i already have the ics turbo 3000 in it.

    please tell me

  • @RCADuck not for long

  • <3 ICS

  • Is the ICS CPX.08 Sport 11.1 v lipo ready?

  • @andersen8183 No airsoft gun is actually "lipo ready"in the sense that companies want you to believe when handing them your money - that's just a marketing gimmick to make you pay more for a gun. Any real "lipo ready" airsoft gun needs to have metal bushings(not bearings), properly shimmed gears, and most importantly, it needs a reliable Mosfet to prevent your trigger contacts from frying - if it's got these, then I would call it capable of running a lipo. CXP has all but the mofet iirc.

  • that gear box with a 11.1 lipo battery would be shooting lasers

  • do ics guns take standard gearsets e.g. if i wanted to put in some systema high torque gears? Thanks

  • @MistroJoe Yes they do, but don't get systema - it's overpriced garbage. If you're paying that much, get Prometheus, or better yet. Head to AirsoftGI and pick up RiotSC gears - they're a bit more but are virtually indestructible.

  • What do you think the max spring a stock ics lower gearbox and the turbo 300 motor can pull is?

  • Will the ICS Split Gearbox also fit in TM bodies?

  • Why are metal bodies for your guns so effing hard to find?

  • My JG can do that... 

  • Ics team you guns are the best and basically what i only use and want to purchase but i have a few questions if you run them on high powered batteries will they break real fast? Stripped gears, burnt motors and what not? I've been using them stock performance only with only spring up or down grades. i love your split gear box. working on them is alot easier. Thanks. My next gun from you guys is the S&W trades M4

  • This is exactly why I love ICS, great quality inside and out, and great innovation. Anyone can tell, your weapons are one of a kind. Thank you for making such great weapons. My next weapon is the sig 552 command aeg rifle. I look forward to it. :)

  • @thenixter97 Indeed i also have a ICS MP5 SD5 and its damn good!

  • ics ur awesome. I got the ICS M4A1 Fixed Stock Full Metal Tactical Carbine. love the gun but when i got my piston was chipped besides that it is a amazing gun. the split gearbox is awesome. can i put a m113 spring (350-380fps) in it without any up grades or would i have buy some more upgrades?

  • @MrAirsoftNpaintball You can put a M120 in with no problems, My M4 is currently shooting 450FPS with no problem :)

  • Hey ICS, Have your Aks74u, very impressed, excellent weapon! It is jsut a shame the conversion kit to the normal 74 is so expensive :( You get what you pay for I suppose!

  • can i use a 9.6 li po battery on my stock ICS M4

  • @007kly Yes you can use up to a 11.1 lipo, however i highly recommended a 7.4 lipo to preserve your switch assembly

  • Can i upgrade my ICS M4 RIS CQB Sportline to an m140 spring? or should i just use m120?

  • @jellybean8080 Use a M120 :) anything over is just overkill for airsoft

  • @icsofficial is this now in all your guns or in just some

  • I'm thinking about getting an ics m4 sportline. Is the plastic body durable and can it handle an m120 spring?

  • @ShootinCodfish Yes they can handle M120 it is the same gearbox and motor as the steel version

  • i just bought an ics m4 a1 with the folding stock but there are no videos about anything is it because its new or is it just a bad buy plz respond

  • @thesolemgeurrilla It has this gearbox its damn good :) folding stock is just for convenience :)

  • I have the same thing with an 11.1v 1600mah 20c and a mosfet installed. Let me tell you, it is beast! Especially with the mosfet, it increases the ROF on my gun. Although I don't shoot auto often, I'd still like my gun to last longer

  • Hello i buy my m4a1 Eco , can i use an lipo to this gun?

  • ICS i would just like to say that i have your full metal M&P15 and it is an AMAZING gun....it lasted me a long time but like all things, it did wear down and is currently being shipped to you guys to be fixed and so far i see you have great customer servace so thank you very much and keep up the good work

  • is having two seperate sections of the gearbox stable?

  • @KincaidBass that was the whole purpose of the video

  • i have a ics m4 2006 anniversary i want to put a ics fixed stock on do i have to put a adapter for the stock to fit if so what adapter

  • we need metal hop up pleaseeeee!!!!

  • Hi there ICS guys!

    I have a ICS M4 SIR (ICS-26) and i love it! Please come out with a Metal Hop up Chamber!

  • please ICS team help me and tell me what kind of battery can use with the CXP 08 for the best performance 7.4 2000 or higher mah or 9.6 3300 or 4000mah or 10.8 1600mah??? which one yall recommend me??? thanks

  • hi ICS Team, i have a CXP 08 that i have a littel issue with, the gun is fully stock and i was running a 9.6 1200mah. but in a games after shoot for no more that 30 min the battery goes totally dry no power at all, i know the gun have m120 spring and im not sure if the ICS 3000 motor. so my questions is if i can use a 7.4 3300 or 4000 mah lipo battery or a 9.6 3300mah or 10.8 1600mah? in the gun without no braking my piston or messing with the gearbox that actually i have a split gearbox too.

  • is this gearbox compatable with other aeg? i got on coming in the mail that i had purchase for cheap brand new from ebay with out doing research and now worry that it might not work with my g&g gr16.

  • I have the ICS M4 M&P15 sportline. Am I able to urgarde to an M12o spring with a new metal piston and head and put in a systema torque motor?

  • What motor are you running in that? thats amazing!

    I wanna buy one of these

  • I have the Magpul Vltor body and it's housing the G&P 8mm gearbox, will the split ICS gearbox fit in the body? I love the design of split gearbox. Also I would put every G&P internal into the ICS gearbox but will it fit? And what size are the bearings?

    Thanks

    -JEAirs0ft

  • hi can my ics cxp handle the lipo 7.4 or 11.1 even in stock?

  • will this gearbox hold up if i put in a M150 or M170 spring?

  • whats the highest fps rate that this gearbox can handle?

  • Hi,

    I have just purchased a MP5A3 from your line of airsoft guns, btw it is AMAZING, but i was wondering if i could use an 11.1v lipo with it? or will it damage the internals?

  • is this the same gearbox that goes in the ICS Sport line m4?

  • not sure if its lipo ready but i use LiFePO on my CXP without any problem for 2 months now.

  • WAIT WHATT?!?! ICS IS LIPO READY?!?!??

    are there any modiycations to this? like the lower gear box?? WTF??

    MOSFET??

    SOMONE REPLY!!!

  • what happens if you use a higher voltage

  • Hi, i have a ICS M4 CQB Pistol new,. can i upgrade to m120 and lipo 7.4 or 11.1? thx

  • Yes, you can! No, problem at all

    ICS team

  • @icsofficial hi ICS team! i want to ask you where i can actually buy an ICS split gearbox for my M4 rifle, as how much i searched i cant find anywhere, so, can you tell me from where can i buy one?! i want this gearbox so much

  • hello ICS team! almost all my airsoft guns are ICS: 3 M4 1 MP5 1 AK74 I plan on getting the L85, SIG and Galil in the future. I love the split gearbox. field repair is easy and it has happened to me many times where i just get an extra upper gearbox and replace. it takes 2 minutes! two problems: plastic hopup on M4 is no good -- breaks too much, please make metal. please use Modify style gearbox for V3 boxes. keep up the good work! ICS FOREVER!!!
  • Excellent !

    ICS Always need the fans like you! It's our motive power for innovation. And your advice will send to our R&D dept. thanks a lot !

    ICS team

  • thank you very much. i like your product very much.  i play with Mike Force Airsoft in California where skill level is very high. ICS guns do well with other players who use Systema and KWA. My guns continue to work even after Systema breaks.

    Even after 3 years of service, all my ICS work great and continue to do so.

    Question: I want to upgrade all my guns to Li-Poly. What is maximum voltage for standard 3000 motor on M4? Can I use WITHOUT fuse protection?

  • Hi, there Imission

    All 7.4~11.1 Li-Poly are absolutely no problem for ICS split gear box. I know you are the master of ICS, but please use fuse, just in case.

    ICS team

  • Hi ICS team,

    thank's  a lot, LOVE my new ics-60 cxp.

  • Hi, elmoyayay

    You can upgrade to M120 and ICS turbo 3000 Motor with no doubt !

    Thanks

    Regards

    ICS team

  • i have ics-60 cxp .08 concept riple right now i has infinite motor, m100 spring and 9.6 v 1100. how to upgrade this baby? thx

  • ics sure has some clever design for the version 2 gearbox. hands down to all the people from ics!!!

    i wonder how long an ics gearbox would last, if it would be paired with an sp170 spring???

  • one guy is runing M190 on with stock upper on ASR. Ask him.

  • Hi, there

    When everything is origional stander from ICS, we will recommand M140 as heavist spring with turbo 3000 high troque motor.

    Because the infinit is high speed motor, so you better switch to turbo 3000 motor when you upgrade!

    Regards

    ICS team

  • Hi,

    ICS use strong and hard gear, so the sound of gearbox is knod of loud. it is not because of the Split design!

    ICS team

  • hey, im interested in ICS very much! and i was wondering what is the heaviest spring this gearbox shell can handle, and will i have to upgrade internals such as piston and etc. to withstand the new spring. Also what is the motor or what is it equivilant to? I read the description for the gun i was interested in and it said the motor type was: infinit

    is that = to a guarder infinit torque motor?

    Thank you. Please respond

  • hey guys.

    I'm wondering why is the gearbox noise so loud. Is it coz of the split design or what?

  • I don't think it's loud. this is STANDARD volume for new out of the box gears. everything airsoft sounds like this, admittedly clone guns are louder, but ICS/KWA/CA all sound about the same in terms of loudness. if you want quieter parts it will cost you. why do you want it to be quiet anyway? seriously -- it's a replica firearm.

  • DUDE...

    Have you ever fired a CA G36c or a stock TM?

    Those are nice, smooth, soft, chugging sounds of muted gearboxes doing their jobs.

    THIS monster, however, is ridiculously loud.

    Perhaps you've been playing with upgraded gearboxes?

    Yes, I agree that it doesn't need to be quiet. But this is not a pleasant sound to be heard. It's like a loud siren screaming at your ears.

    That's annoying. Explosions i can handle, but THIS?

    leik nooo.......

  • I've fired all types of CA and stock TM. as far as I'm concerned it's about the same. all of these things make a sound and maybe you think ICS is louder. it doesn't make any difference to me. 'quiet' guns don't make a damn bit of difference in airsoft- only how you play it. same as in Iraq. a SAW was one of the loudest things I've ever heard fired but after a while it didn't make any difference -- it's all loud. it's only if you can stand up and walk back to your unit is what counts.

  • We're talking about airsoft.

    Airsoft. Electric airsoft. Not gas or spring or whatever. ELECTRIC!!!!

    We're also not talking about real steel, like SAWs or artillery. Yes, that's loud. Guns operate by exploding explosive. Electric airsoft operates by using electricity to drive a motor then blah blah blah. Either way, what you're comparing this to is wrong.

    War is loud. Yes.

    Does airsoft need to be?

    Besides, it's only the operator that hears the sound of his gun. Others hear clicks.

  • you're one of the sneaky types who camps out with a 500fps gun, right? find a nice shady area and wait...

    how old are you kid? 15?

    it's not the gun, it's how you play. ICS is NOT loud. get over it. ICS makes great guns that are easy to work on -- you have done that right? bet you like looking for the anti-reverse latch when it pops out of the gun onto your mom's basement's rug.

    real-steel and airsoft in MY WORLD don't change. except for one thing: airsoft doesn't kill people.

  • Nope. I hate field games and given the choice, I would play CQB every game.

    I'm 13. OK? My age doesn't matter.

    Yes I agree that its not the gun. Okay, yes ICS makes great guns that are easy to work on. Okay YOU think that ICS is not loud. OKAY, in YOUR WORLD, real steel and airsoft are the same. Then you're gonna kill someone as you treat Real steel as airsoft and vice versa.

    Okay. You win.

  • thanks son. no hard feelings ok?

    another reason why i like these guns is they are cheaper than the other guns and this is why I stick with ICS. times have been tough since getting back and I can't afford much -- it all goes to everything else and the airsoft thing keeps me 'sharp' before i have to go back.

    but i'm noticing now ICS guns are not so cheap anymore but i still like it. and btw, i do modify everything internally to make the guns better. but doesn't everyone?

    cheers.

  • No. it's for M4 series!

    ICS team

  • is the mp5 as durable

  • We will insist our quality stander in every product

    ICS team

  • and thats why i love you guys thanks

  • is this gearbox in the mp5

  • ten facet jest zajebisty ja nie wiem jak on to robi ale wierze ze to nie jest nic podkladane a ni nic czyste i już xd ja tez tak chce

  • Hi, there

    I suggest you better ask the retailer where you bought it. Because some time the problem is kind of complex. If it is not convenient for you to reach the retailer. you can take some photos, then sent it to ICS service email. We will figure it out for you!

    ICS team

  • i wanna get the upgraded upper GB with the M120 in it....will the lower GB be able to handle it?

  • Sure, no problem!

    ICS team

  • ok thanx...i also have another problem...my m4 has gone thru 3 tappet plates and not my piston just snapped, im using a regular 84V battery and the gun is stock...what could the problem be??

  • they shoulda just made it with 8mm metal bushings

  • My ICS clocks 400fps @ 29rpm with a 20c lipo+shs 13:1 gear+EG1000+PDI 170+proper AOE. The only problem was the bushings. 6mm cant survive. The bushings gave up after 5 450rnd mag. The bevel gear bushing came loose. Replaced twice already.

  • I'd like to see a video that can really prove or test the limit of the ICS upper gearbox. High FPS in high ROF. Coz ive seen a ver 2 and 3 gearbox that can survive 33-36rps @ 440fps with proper set up.

  • C'mon, I have already change a lot of this ICS upper GB, with our set up of 350FPS at 25-35ROF, They break easily.

  • The gearbox itself has no problem with reasonable springs. High RoF puts no extra actual strain on the gearbox, it simply causes the same amount of wear but at a faster rate. The split gearbox can easily handle 38rps on an M110 spring, for many hundreds of thousands of rounds. Obviously not stock parts, but anyone trying to reach extreme levels of performance isn't best advised to be using stock parts unless they are extremely high quality already.

  • Pretty fast for just 7,4V!

  • Li-poly batteries have very high-tension current, this battery is like the 9.6v or even higher Ni-Cd/Mh.

  • so typically a 7.4v li-po is sufficient if I want to raise the ROF?

  • 7.4V lipo battery is only equal to a 9.6V standard nimh or nicad battery ... So if you want crazy ROF , the 7.4V lipo is not for you but the 11.1V lipo which will give you crazy ROF though if your gearbox is not ready for it and that you have a HIGH FPS spring, it will most likely rip the shit out of the gearbox.

    Ideally, 7.4V lipo does not hurt the gearbox but the 11.1V lipo does.

  • 7.4 lipo = 9.6v nimh in rof

  • Li-Poly though.

  • Not really die hard, but still it shows it can handle full auto @m120 without crackin instantly like relgular Marui ver2 would (mine did with m100, but i have heard ppl using m120 without problmes). But i think the big thing here is that you can change cylinder in seconds (which id like to see in action) like in systema PTW without paying as much.

  • Any gearbox with AoE can take a li-po, this video doesn't test shit...

  • please tell me what AOE means.  thank you

    and would this gearbox last very long with the 11.1 li poly and m120? Or will it strip or snap quickly.

  • This video doesnt prove anything. They didnt mention the internals of the upper and lower gearbox, it plays a big role in this test. Any gearbox can survive this test if your using soft spring. The main problem of the ICS is the sector gear and piston teeth meshing.

  • I have an ICS M4A1 (2007 edition). Internals are pretty good though, but yeah this video isn't so much of a "Die Hard Test". It isn't as good as a KWA or G&P, but it is high quality. The thing that bothers me is that I'm stuck with 6mm bushings!

  • Wow it can run on a Li-Po for a few bursts wonderfull let me see it after 100k rounds on that Li-Po I can get any clone gun and run it on a Li-Po for awhile. While running a gun on a Li-Po like this is cool I wouldn't consider this a "Die Hard" test, more of just a cool ROF video for ICS. Anyway ICS you should send me a CXP for free and I'll do a reveiw for it and a few real die hard tests for you :D

  • It's great ICS can take a Li-Po, but so can every other gearbox. The REAL test is how long it will last long term.

  • WOOT! First comment.

    Those split gearboxes are pretty much indestructible.

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