WindLight atmospheric rendering comes to Second Life!

[LilBaby1366]

I Love Second Life I've been On It Since October of 2009 :) It's Very Awesome..Just Make Sure You Don't Have Too Much Graphic Content In You're Profile People Can View It And Report Because Of Under-age People Seeing Or Something.. :D I Hope All Of You Have A Great Second Life Inworld Experience.

[Timn916]

ww w . tinyurl . com /vlife - vLife Second Life viewer Public Version - Features Client and sim crash Double click teleport Double click copy Hand rainbow particle beam Area scanner Animation list scan and copy Teleport history Phantom Teleport to any avatar everywhere - Credits to jcool410

[BlindedWolf]

It's not even a game, it's waaay to good for a title like that...

[MrTard]

I hate the people who come upto you verbaly abuse you then attack you with orbits and guns, then they fill out an abuse report on you when all your doing is stood there chatting to you freinds minding your own business. I hope the lindens look into the reports and see that it was the guy who filed the report that was doing the grifing....

[Balthane]

They can check the push record and see who pushed who with what. You would be ok.

[shellysstuff]

I've only been on second life for about a week or so and I've already learned how to build structures. This game is awesome! :-)

[nerwus123]

you don't have to get grifed... I always grief back :P none muthafucka will beat my "powers"

[clp120591]

I want to see these clouds but my graphic card sucks :(

[AkashaWoller]

Cut them some slack, they're doing the best they can.

You don't need a high-end graphics card to play the game and your avatar looks crappy only if you don't know how to customize it to look realistic.

SL is great and Torley's tutorials rule. :)

[mumsue]

CHECK OUT AVVY BARZANE THERE

[DaProtagonist]

I hate second life i was building a massive statue that took me 12 hours to make and the game crashed !!!

[Celithralia]

If that's the case, it should have been where you left it and you could have logged back on and finished it. (Unless you were in a sandbox, in which case you should have been saving/making backups, as sandboxes clear out automatically every so often) Any game can crash... even the best designed high price games can, for a number of different reasons.

[marcososa1986]

SL should upgrade the graphics to a THESIMS2-like graphics... or make them BETTER.

entropia universe looks waaaay better... the only bad thing is that u cant build stuff like in SL

[cgman2]

The Sl graphics developers can't develop game code their artists. The Guys working on the game code are learing as they go and take no part in the grphics updates.

[Sehaw]

landscapes are great but people look shit on it

[rashou812]

Lets add more graphics to a system that crashes, has down time, that has lot of bugs, and we need to add cool graphics.. With windlight we are opening a new view to SL and and all new lag long days... sad.. thought they would work a few more bugs out of the viewer first... And can that RAM hog view with something that could be run on a real system..

[DanmEveryNameIsTaken]

Maybe you have a shit graphic card like me. The system requirement for sl is like 500 something.

[whirly03]

windlight ricks ass i love it still buggy though

[nometetdotcodotuk]

Does Windlight increase lag much?

I haven't downloaded it because I get loads of lag as it is.

[PetFreenote]

It actually reduced my lag. And I don't have a very high powered computer.

[thatboyjer]

avatar impostering, reduces lag GREATLY.

[williamlli]

This is a fantastic addition to Second Life, although its realism is in stark contrast to the now backward looking rendering of avatars.

But gods, what's with the psychedelic colour edits and the zooming in and out? It makes one nauseous and doesn't help the tech demonstration one bit.

[gillcarlow]

do u have 2 down load second life because i cant down load thing incas of virises

[solveablesky]

SL is one of the safest things to download .>. you should'nt get a virus

[kittenbut1]

Yeah. And if you do, you can always sue lindens and win :3

[Hodgey1989]

They have bigger problems on sl but they rather add oving clouds geez LL is seriouy losing it.

[kidrips]

Hi there torley i was thinking if you could help me with a problem on second life, i have been urging to get on for ages but it wont let me on because im in the uk, do you think there will ever be a time were uk people can log on,

yours sincerely Kidrips

(one of your subscribers)

[DrSpaghetti]

It doesn't matter where you are logging on from. In fact there are loads of people from the UK on SL. What kind of an error message are you getting?

[stabadymcstab]

well its saying i need to put my number in and i put it in but it says i need a county or somet ???

[Parker1108]

cool.... when do teen grid players get it XD

[Selenicaa]

Looks good, but when are they going to improve the avatar & scenery graphics engine?

[seanlost]

So I have watched you videos and the have been really helpful. I was just wandering if you knew where is a good place to work on my building skills I have no land and Can only get so many L$ at a time. It will be a a while before I can buy any. Any thoughts?

[nemoDaedalus]

You can build in Sandboxes! :) Just do a Search for "sandbox" and you should find them.

[roudango]

lol yes, beware of griefers. Their crawling like insects O_O

[nemoDaedalus]

I usually avoid the larger sandboxes, the ones near Abbotts. There's so many people, it attracts griefers :P There are a few places I know where I can work in peace. I've been griefed there too, but much less than in the sandbox regions.

[Aliceinwire]

impressive

[ikukelas]

u need direct x 10 for this?

[BarfBurt]

NO YOU DONT

[studiochronoqua]

hey...

I'm just wondering

...how do I get windlight on my secondlife?

[nemoDaedalus]

It was away for quite a while, but since yesterday, it's back! See blog [dot] secondlife [dot] com for all the info :)

[Ecocandle]

This was a wonderful video. How does one learn how to use Windlight in SL?

[shey8791]

I bet you composed the background music. Niceee!!! :)

[Feuyaer]

Haha. Looks cool, but I also smell lag-tyme.

Couple these awesome effects with the fact that Linden Labs phails on most levels, and that they haven't found a decent way to make SL run okay on computers with compromised connections, and you've got yourselves lag of the likes of which we've never seen.

[DrOMally]

Did you just hear what you said? "Compromised connections" meaning that the fault is on your end of the connection, not theirs.

[Feuyaer]

Nope. Wrong. Try again, buddy. I run a plethor of other online games fine. From Half Life 2, to MMORPGs. They run FINE. But Shitty Life runs like...well..shit.

I hope Linden Labs gets a plane flown into it.

[lampstink5]

coool!

[LucindaObviate]

The skies were amazing with this viewer...however the odd color of orange avi appeared were bit more then I could handle. LOL Like some strange alien carrot mutation had ravished the grid. Where dead assassin when you need one?!

Seriously hoping to see this stuff ironed out and in play.

[wolfeedarkfang]

I wish this was returned and fixed to work with geforce 7600gs 256mb. when i tried it, i could not render the clouds + the sky flickered black. Still this is a feature I've been itching to have for a long time. On the SL Forums i have complained a few times about the ugly SL sky. ;p I am glad that LL listens to those complaints. :) IMO who cares about unfixed bugs, we need a prettier world.We live in it, we may as well have fun in it. ^^

[grizwald120]

This...is...GREAT!!!!

[makinote9]

but.... we don´t have this yet.... do we? o.O

[kyr4n]

cant wait till this gets either on the main viewer or back on the first look again. Never got the chance to try it n im really curious if it really does make indoor enviorments look awkward n wut can be done with lighting to counter that >.> as for light emitting trough walls... dude, try imagining what would happen if it had to calculate all the lights stopping at every surface >.> it'd be lag-r-us i think. Even if its clientside. just TONS of calculation

[GarethXL]

looks nice, but could LL actualy fix the in game lighting first reather then haveing a new lighting program for the game, light emiting through walls is real realistic :/

[HelloDoh123]

I know, the WindLight first look viewer was really neat when outside, but it made things indoors look even worse than they did before no matter how I forced the sun.

[XionGraves]

smells like more lag for me! DX

[Ptenle]

You can probably turn it off

[pandaphil]

My video runs SL just fine now with all the bells and whistles turned on. But it chokes badly on the beta version of this thing. I hope its optional. At least until I can get a new overpriced video card. :p

[BellaMarch]

Torley, how did you do this ? Or did you have a techie at hand to script the atmospheric stuff ?

Anyway, this is real good stuff. Tnx for sharing this.

[sh0kr0k]

Phenomenal!!!  1:39-1:41 was incredible!

[venerdir108]

All I can say is this torley.. WOW

-From the TG :D

-Scott Deharo

[sharperguy]

looks really nice.

I sort of agree it looks out of place but i think after this is done other improvements will be made like physics/grass/shadows etc.

Of course the bugs need fixing too but I guess you can't have everyone working on them.

Also the sculpties thing will help lag by reducing prim counts, and gradually should make the things we make look more realistic to match the other visual improvements :)

[willrein]

What's the name of the song at the beginning? Is it from second life? I like it.

[Rcrby525]

second life does not HAVE a soundtrack, the music ingame is actualy streams from servers either run by residetns or internet radio streams,. reguardless, i like it to

[cristianodiaz]

Great video, Torley. I won't rehash the "fix the bugs" comments, you know where I stand with that one :) I am curious, what ever became of the SpeedTree implementation announced ages ago? I am still waiting to see lush forests and fields of grass and flowers in SL. They would look even better with realistic skies :)

[Torley]

Sigh, YouTube comments. ;)

[TheSimsrox123459]

Torley your videos are great! add me on secondlife shoo broome if u please.

[64s]

By the way... if you really want it. Please add "disable/enable" feature. First of all. FIX the bug and everything to make things work THEN you can create many new features as possible as you crave for. Try to be common sense :D We are waiting for our bugs to FIX... because... BUGS ARE annoying more than the features. SQUISH THE BUGS! :D

[lordfirefox]

Why the hell would you want the old sky after seeing this? Also they already said there is no going back to the old sky, because this totally replaces it. The old sky has outlived its usefulness and badly needs a replacement.

By the way if you want the bugs fixed, stop being a whiny little baby and BETA TEST. Also it wouldn't hurt for you to do some reading, read the blog post about WindLight before you get all mopey about it.

[64s]

Woah, I see how fucked up you are. You are shouting at me for what? I see how whining you are right now. Learn to respect other people's own option, I tell what I think/see of. It is not your business. You say what you think. Nobody cares. BUT YOU DO, dumbass! GEt a life and grow the fuck up, kid!

[lordfirefox]

You grow the fuck up you asshole, you bitch and moan about new features instead of helping the Lindens fix the problems. And it's apparent you read very little of the blog post before smacking your big fat head on the Reply button. Go read the blog before you come back here smack-talking you jackass.

[lordfirefox]

And another thing, if you were paying attention Wednesday there was a shit load of fixes and only 1 god damn new feature added. Seems to me LL is doing what they're supposed to be doing, you people are just nit-picking.

[64s]

That feature is an okay because we are 3D people, 3d objects and everything but the cloud/sky/sun/whatever is a tad too realistic, that doesn't look great because they are mismatch. If you are an artist, then you know what I am talking about.

[Octamed]

oh btw, there's no point putting on more programmers to fix bugs. Programming reaches a critial mass where more programmers don't help. They aquired WindwardMark so it won't hurt the existing team.

[Octamed]

Very nice, but shadows will make WAY more difference to visual quality. A good shadowmap algorithm will handle the variable geometry well. Shadows is by far the biggest missing graphical thing in SL.

[IamAdamWe]

ok assholes, anyone whos talking about how they should spend more time fixing sl's stuff let me just say this: you guys are idiots. your to stupid to reaalise that even with a few problems, secondlife is still a glorius game and with the new skies it will be better than it ever was so stop bitching!

[ccoraxfan]

Amen!

[MayaAlineatedByBadSL]

Forget lag, people, just look at how it looks - am laughing thru TEARS

[MayaAlineatedByBadSL]

Great video, Torley!...yeah, but the whole thing seems....incongruent...Yeah, we residents are to blame to a great extent. Still aren't we jumping the gun...errr...in terms of technology? Egalitarian, or not - altogether it looks ridiculous...to say the least (without enumerating the issues mentioned in previous comments) Please, PLEASE - DO statistics on comments...unless...you don't want to know

[rustyhonda]

Absolutely gorgeous skies. I can't wait to get some skydiving videos with that!

And nice editing on the video too.

[CutterRubio]

What a colossal waste of time. Most people could care less. How about focusing on replacing the antique physics engine or something else remotely useful. This is nothing but useless fluff.

[annebythegate]

Tech Heaven. Bless

[TenebrousPau]

Awesome video Torley!

[ccoraxfan]

Cool!  The skies have been bugging me so long...

I'm a bird in SL, and I spend a lot of time flying around up there. This is a great improvement!

Great video as usual, Torley! :)

[grasshopperziro]

humm...looks like NekoChan is gonna enjoy the beach one more time. ~_^

[MelissaYeuxdoux]

Earth to kvetchers: LL already has over two thirds of its programming staff working on bug fixes; what more do you want? Haven't you ever heard of Brooks's Law?

ANY large piece of software has bugs; to insist that SL have no new features until all bugs are fixed is to insist on SL's stagnation. Is that what you want?

[Thulen]

try stage6 next time, Youtube quality is horrible -.-

[Dagarvs]

This is good to cause it will make most of the crappy builds look even more ridic! so when do we get new anatomy, hmm? HMMM?

[ShinaKitsune]

what about the stuff thats above thats like why in the sky as is right now? like above the 300(?) m current cloud line?

[Ozlin]

I think this is awesome and can't wait for the end of shitty skies! Very nice effects.

Torley, for future things showing off visual effects I'd suggest not using any video visual effects as it makes it confusing what is part of the SL visualness and what is part of stuff you added, i.e. sky changing colors and such. :)

For anyone asking about why LL isn't fixing bugs instead... I'm one who desperately wants LL to concentrate on that too, but THINK... LL *acquired* the company behind this.

[sweetheart30904]

SL needs to quit coming up with all these new features until they can fix what is wrong with the the rest of the client...first things first...at the rate SL is going now there will be no SL because peoples computers won't be able to keep up with all the updates...so keep on SL greed gets nowhere but downfall...fix SL first then give us new features...

[ElectronCleanslate]

Fix the bugs. Fix the crashing. Stop losing inventory. Then you can do tricks

[GameCubeHero]

Yay! Looks great! almost good enough to set fire to a sandbox under while crossing the streams.

[Maringodc]

Wow it looks amazing!

[dfennec]

Three words.

Open.

Letter.

Project.

Once again, LL ignores the residents and adds something, while cool, to a very buggy world.

Please.

Fix the bugs.

Don't add features.

[DamienFate]

Amazing, thank you for this!

[melodychild77]

Does this mean at some point we may have the moons change? I mean, it's always a full moon in SL. I'm thinking that may be why everyone is always so crazy. :)

[Sanshine020]

I love it!!! This looks really amazing!

Torley thanks for all your helpful tutorials, I learned to build a flag that waves in the wind! Yeah!!! I was soooo proud!

Keep up the good work!

[GwynethLlewelyn]

dannycolt, very likely you will have an option to turn it off, do not worry :)

Way to go, LL, and thanks for the fantastic video + soundtrack, Torley :) I look forward to the First Look viewer that will show this technology off for us common mortals :)

[dannycolt]

Well, if it´s gonna be "switchoffable", then it won´t affect me in any way, wich is kind of the point. :-)

I mean, most people allready have to turn off "ligthts" and "shiny" to cope with the lagg when they are in a crowded space.

I just think Linden ought to try and make the old eyecandy-toys more acessable before they squeeze in new ones like this one. Otherwise they´re just catering to an shrinking elite, and ailenating the rest of us.

[SmileyMan45]

WHOO! Go Lindens!

[dannycolt]

Well, whoop-de-f*ckin-doo, lets just add on even more superflous animations that will slow down the rendering even more.

Got lagg allready? Only solution is to get an even broader broadband, ´cause the Lindens ar busy with windowdressing like this instead of solving problems.

And the real tragedy here is that it appearently only imitates RL. If I could get a red martian sanstorm or two moons at the same time, that at least would make a difference.

[Johigglesvash]

Actually, this probably won't slow down the client much if any. Right now SL is still mostly CPU-bottlenecked. Rendering like this would be mostly GPU oriented. You'll find that if you have a decent graphics card, say anything above a 6600 GT, this probably won't slow you down at all. And the removal of cloud particles may even speed you up.

[sharperguy]

because we all know nVidia is the only graphics chipset :P

[DavePakaPali]

Can't wait to go skydiving with these conditions

[shaunathon6]

lol true, meh im only a teen so im trapped in the teen grid but aparently the mg is ALOT laggier than tg, i cant imagine how!

[shaunathon6]

whoah, this is amazing but soon enough no one will notice it any more. the same will hapen with sculpties, just you wait. lol i sound like such a ass wipe :-D

[AngryAtheist]

Not noticing things is GOOD. It means people are being emerged in SL more. People only notice things when they are going wrong, or are different from what they expect. :D I wish they'd fix the lag issues though...but shiny clouds are cool too lol

[stickhrk]

WOAH! SL is getting closer to looking like RL lol. that is awsome!