Evolution Genetics Embryo's and our Common Ancestor's

[Uenbg]

Haeckel

Look it up.

[TheMrfly007]

well it doesnt support darvins evolution theory at all.

[TheMrfly007]

NO this is a LIE

[hanslol]

@TheMrfly007 What exactly is a lie? The things you see in this video aren't even computer animated, they are real filmed footage.

[slapcompany]

There is no safe container to store your values while you’re at work; not living your deepest values will leak on you

No sudden moves: You’re looking emotional commitment right in the eye. slapCompany Question to you: Where do you stand?

[observingworld]

As an atheist I don't get how a Christian can be comfortable in feeling that they're with the science and that they accept the Theory of Evolution as an explanation of the diversity of animal life. The whole Natural Selection process is utterly heartless. No benevolent god would ever come up with such a system.

And a god could easily create a species just like that. Fully developed. That would be easier and less heartless.

[dltanner99]

Alternative view of evolution see video book trailer

[micah1116]

This video is pure propoganda. This whole idea of the human embryo having similarities to fish and other animals was proven wrong 135 years ago! Ernst Haeckel was conviceted of fraud by his own university, the drawings were fake. Do a simple google search and you will find out that these supposed tails are not tails at all.

[WrathOfDemons]

common ancestor or common designer i dt wanna start any fights about evos and creaos why cant we all just love eachother

[renumeratedfrog]

Goddam mutants! Get away from me, devils!

[bombarderoazul]

all vertebrates share a common ancestor which lived during the early cambrian. some 530 million years ago.

[fyourcouchnigga]

Those embryos look tasty. Id like to deep fry them and eat them like chicken wings

[Muppephile]

it should be noted that embryos would turn to mush if you tried to cook them.

[Bartholomo]

Religious people who actually believe their books to be the word of a God need to get a huge dose of reality before they try and commit a little self-prophecy and destroy the world.

[vital2mi]

"...they try and commit a little self-prophecy and destroy the world."

Silly rabbit...little humans have not that kind of power even with nukes....the planet will continue even if we obliterate our very selves. Did you just graduate from kindergarten?/ Honestly!

[omiteru]

The problem is not their belief in their religious books, but their refusal to realize the world has changed on the past 2000 years. The knowledge that has been gained in those years as improved our understanding of the world. However, no new information has been added to their book.

The most disturbing thing is that they take their religious view on faith, not facts or evidence. Then use their hatred to 'destroy our world (the society that humans live in).'

[MrNocompromise]

@omiteru, oh really? So, are we to change the Word of God every so often to keep up wit new ideas and knowledge to satify man's futile thinking? The fact is we do not have 'common ancestor', but a common Creator. And the Bible is The Truth, and it remains Truth til the end.

[ContraSSU]

@MrNocompromise actually they have changed a lot in the bible since it was first written not to mention a lot of stories removed from the official text, not to mention all of the contradictions, and idiotic statements made in it. its a great story book shouldnt worship a story book though

[MrNocompromise]

Riiiight, riiiiiiight. I think I'll stick with what Jesus said, rather than your ridiculous fables.

[sfsTrader]

@MrNocompromise ............sometimes its good to compromise.

[MrNocompromise]

@sfsTrader , I agree, there are some things that we can compromise with. But not the Word of God, and not God. He either is, or is not. The Bible is, or is not the Word of God. Christianity is, or is not the true religion. If God is real, and the Bible is His revelation to us, and Christianity is the correct religion, then we better take heed. Because if we don't, we will find ourselves in the hands of an angry God when we stand before Him in Judgement as He has warned.

[sfsTrader]

@MrNocompromise .....if you consider it possible for the bible to be completely wrong then it should also be possible that its only partially wrong too.....a 3rd answer, u dont agree?

[MrNocompromise]

@sfsTrader , The Word of God, the Bible is completely true.

[sfsTrader]

@MrNocompromise i see...

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

I'm sorry to break it up to you, but your God has some issues. of course I don't believe in his existence, but the fictive figure of God in the Sci-Fi book called the Bible is one insecure, schizophrenic, blood-thirsty maniac. he made us and designed us and knows perfectly each and every step and decision we will make in our life, yet he gets mad when we make the "wrong" choice. I mean, he designed us so he knows what kind of decisions we're going to take, that' one self-contradictory God.

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , since you dont believe in God, your disapproval of His ways are invalid.

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , the 'god' that you are describing is not the God of the Bible. You seem to have a misinformed, misguided, warped idea of who God is. Maybe if you would read the Bible in context you would have a better understanding.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise you're kidding me right? you think I haven't read the Bible? I was a Christian until I reached the age of reason.

"since you don't believe in God, your disapproval of His ways are invalid", so basically you're saying that only if I believe in God I will find Genocide, Raping, Murder, Child Sacrifice and Incest reasonable? hey buddy, I don't care who your God is, if he finds no problem drowning his children in a vicious flood for sinning, then yes he IS a blood-thirsty maniac.

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , No, you thought you were a 'christian'. But you never was. By what standards do you say that God is wrong in all His actions? God is the Creator of all. He is Holy, Just, and Righteous in all His ways. He has the Supreme Authority and Right to justify who He wills, and condemns who He wills.

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi, He has shown His great love for us by allowing His Son, Jesus, to pay the penalty of breaking His Laws committed by you and me. We can have forgiveness and eternal life by repenting of our sins, and receiving His forgiveness. If we choose to reject His love, He will reject us on the Day of Judgement.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise @MrNocompromise it's sad that you believe in these things. I judge God by standards that he supposedly imposed on us. If God tells us not to murder, then commits Genocide, if he tell's us not to commit adultery and then condones rape then yes I have the right to judge this fictive blood-thirsty character because if his standards are being able to commit even the ugliest crimes just because he made us and he'll do whatever he wants then yes I think he's evil

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , you have no leg to stand on. Did you create the universe? Did you give life to all creatures that exist? Where were you when God created matter, space, and time? God is Perfect in all His ways. All creatures are wicked, sinful, rotten to the core. We all deserve to be destroyed in His sight. Are you holier, more righteous, and more just than God Himself? It is only by His mercy that we are all not consumed.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise I have never killed anybody nor sent my own child to eternal misery just because he disobeyed me, therefore I am holier, more righteous and more just than fictive God. if we are all sinners and imperfect, and he is the one who created us this way, then he has nobody else to blame for our sins than himself =)

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , yeah, you tell Him that when you stand before Him on Judement Day. See how far that'll get ya. Peace.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise why? would he be angry? but anger is a negative trait. being unable to solve problems by means other than anger and violence makes God automatically imperfect. LOL :D just hoping you'd see the self-contradiction of the concept "God"

peace

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , ever heard of Righteous Anger? Let man be a liar, and let God be true. Only the fool says 'there is no God'.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise I'm sorry, but as long as there is no single evidence for the existence of God, and as long as science continues to make the Bible sound stupid, it would take a fool to believe in God and a rationalist to be an atheist.

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , "If [you] have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, [you] are worse off at the end than [you] were at the beginning...A dog returns to its vomit." 2Peter 2:20-22

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise I love it when you guys run out of thing to say and start quoting the very book we don't believe in. first give me a reason to believe this science fiction, then quote it

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , If there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing? Also, Life does not consist merely of chemicals, It also includes specified complexity(which comes only from a mind). There are no known natural laws that create specified complexity(only intelligence can). Spontaneous generation of life has never been observed.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise that specified complexity, or mind, is also a result of chemical reactions. deal with it, better sooner than later.

"There are no natural law that create specified complexity" this is pretty much like saying "There are no natural laws of why we get hungry", there are natural chemical reactions, please learn more about the model of Abiogenesis.

"Spontaneous generation of life has never been observed" as opposed to creation of life by God? a man walking on water? a worldwide flood?

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , If God didnt create us then you have to believe that, without intelligent intervention, something arose from nothing, order arose from chaos, life arose from non-life, new life forms arose from existing life forms despite evidence to the contrary.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise that's the biggest load of crap I've ever encountered I don't even know where to start from, but I'll try anyway.

"if there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing?" if it was that obvious, we wouldn't be arguing that much about it would we? NEXT

"life does not consist merely of chemical" - false. up to this date there have been no scientific documentations in any organism which tell that there is something besides matter.

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , your darwinian views are nothing more than a secular religion masquerading as 'science'. Your evidence is supported by natural laws because you dont consider other options. However, Spontaneous generation isnt supported by empirical observation or forensic science principles.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise my darwinian views are supported by the different fields of geology, anatomy, archaeology, biology, embryology and they all give the exact results and predictions. you really have nothing against that :) because not a single evidence supports the existence of the super-natural, nor it has ever been observed. you really don't take the thou shall not lie commandment too seriously

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi, Hubble showed in 1929 that the universe is expanding. At some point in the past,as we go back in time, we get to a singularity. Therefore, the universe had a beginning. The Law of cause n effect states that anything that had a beginning, has a cause. What caused it? If you say, matter. Where did matter come from?

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise FAIL. the laws of cause and effect aren't relevant in quantum mechanics, therefore it is possible that this is the case with the big bang.

however, there could still be cause for the big band, something like a previous universe imploding and then exploding again to form the current universe, but as Carl Sagan said: whatever happened before the big bang, has no effect on our universe whatsoever

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , Do you mean the oscillating model? sorry, but thats all guess work, not science. There was nothing prior to the big bang; no time, space, nothing. But even if there was a previous universe as you say, still, how did it come into being? It doesnt explain the how. It only pushes it back further.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise sure it's a guess, nobody said it's scientific. we can only guess what was before (if there was anything) the big bang.

there might have been nothing prior to the big bang as you said, therefore I gave you the quantum mechanics analogy :) are you heading somewhere with this argument or are you going to keep going in circles?

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , I'm gonna keep pushing along.....whatever caused the big bang or anything prior to it, has to be infinite, transcendent, Uncaused, otherwise, we'll be right back at 'what caused that?' No? And this Uncaused cause we know as God.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise we are not sure that anything caused it at all, and even if something did we don't know if it still exists. so there you go, doesn't have to be infinite nor uncaused.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise if something hasn't been observed, doesn't mean it can't possibly happen if it is supported by numerous evidence.

and please show me evidence that contradict that something arose from nothing, order arose from chaos, life arose from non-life, new life form arose from existing life form, or else cut the bullshit. you can't throw the word "evidence" just like that to make it look like it strengthens your position, when there are absolutely no such evidence.

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi, your 'chemical reaction' discounts intelligence. Specified complexity shows intelligence, information;therefore, a Mind. Creation of life by a transcendent, Uncaused cause, intelligent being has been observed. You just choose to ignore it. If there's only matter, where did it come from?

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise intelligence is caused by different brains executing different actions in different frequencies, you really shouldn't argue a medical student over that ;)

and for the millionth time, show me your evidence. when has creation of life by a transcendent, uncaused cause, intelligent being has been observed? you're loosing your ability to make a complete sentence.

nobody knows where matter came from, but it doesn't mean it came from nothing. where did God come from?oh I forgot, nowhere

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi you're saying more of the same. spontaneous generation hasn't been observed because it's a slow process with a very low probability of happening again, doesn't mean it didn't happen. we have every reason to believe it did.

we've already been through the whole "Darwinism is a religion" thing and I though I made it clear to you that it isn't because it has no superstitious beliefs, just pure tangible evidence, must we go through that again?

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , Stuart Hackett said,"Cogito, ergo Deus est! I think, therefore God is."

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise WOW! very informative and completely backed by evidence, a masterpiece by Stuart Hackett (who?)

haha, sure, refuge to quoting some priest when you have no reasonable reply. I'll give you the honor of the last comment because you are not worth the time :)

[MrNocompromise]

@John MATT Mazzawi, you as a medical student should know that intelligence doesnt come from just chemical brain waves interacting with each other. If your 'intelligence' is just as you say, then your thoughts, reason, mind, cant be trusted. How do you know that your brain reactions are true then? My view seems more plausable than your "I don't know". Your view takes more faith to believe. God did not 'come from' nowhere. He is eternal.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise I have no idea why my thoughts, reason, mind can't be trusted, but I'll skip that.

I don't say any way in which a supernatural explanation is "plausable" (did you mean plausible? why are you ignoring youtube's spelling checker? LOL). the supernatural has no evidence to back it up, therefore it is the least plausible of all explanations. my "I don't know" comes when I REALLY don't know, unlike religion science doesn't pretend to explain something unknown with guessing.

[MrNocompromise]

@JohnMUTDMazzawi , like I said, since your opinions, thoughts, and reason are just chemical reactions bouncing off your brain walls, no one can trust it as truth or fact, not even you. So, you have fun following your faith of nonsense, and I'll keep following the God that created all and will judge all in the end.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise people happen to trust my "interacting waves" (this still makes me laugh).

but come on, let's suppose everything I say is false. let's say evolution and all that are wrong, you know that it still doesn't mean the God you believe in exists.

I wanted to end this argument, but I'm going to give you a chance to convince me to believe the Bible.

[JohnMUTDMazzawi]

@MrNocompromise btw, "chemical brain waves interacting with each other"? wtf? since when waves interact? stacking up cool words together in a sentence doesn't make you smarter.

admitting I don't know when I really don't know is called being realistic, pretending to explain the unknown with obscurities is the thing that takes faith. hope we settled that.

[MrNocompromise]

People need to take Evolution theory by faith as well. Haeckel's embryos diagram was proved to be false yet many modern science books still print it as true. Before the Cambrian explosion, there were jellyfish, sponges, and worms. Then, bang! We see arthropods,echinoderms,chordat­es. Mammals came later, but the chordates,the major groups to which they belong, were right there in the beginning of Cambrian, contrary to Darwin's tree of life.

[aquatix]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from my studies, they quit using Haeckel's embryo's within the past ten years...

And I disagree that science of any kind needs faith. I believe it takes understanding...and understanding is susceptible to change...

[MrNocompromise]

Actually, they r still printin Haeckel's embryos diagram in tex books, some in color or some variation. But they still pass it as valid, even though many scientists take issue wit it. While understanding is susceptible to change, science( as pertaining to evolution) is passed off as factual, and the only truth that can be considered reasonable, n empirical. But evolution does take faith to believe somethin came out of nothing, non-living produced living creatures, all came from common ancestors.

[omiteru]

Science in not the same as religion.

Nothing can be gained by comparing different religious belief or deciding with religious doctrine is correct. It is the individuals choice what religious belief they have and they should be respected for that.

Science is an enterprise of discovery and understand the natural (material) world. The Cambrian explosion, embryos are all just one word in any book in the library of science.

Evolution is a science that is dependent on all sciences and itself.

[dawkinsfan41]

Neo, somebody clicked "spam" on you. Maybe we should stoop to their level and click "spam" on all of their superstitious propaganda. That must be what jesus would do.

[Ryansarcade9]

Check out my reply to this video!

[mobiltec]

A fascinating comparison. The more science I witness the harder it is to understand why so many people refuse to accept what is right in front of thier faces. We finally have proof positive shedding light on our origins and the creationists refuse to accept it. The human species is doomed without intervention.

[TheRealArchAngel]

A Master Genetic Sequence that you "flip the switches" a certain way and get a Panda "flip the switches" another way and get a Pig, and "flip the switches" yet another way and get a Human. Fundamental question is can the "frankentstien effect" (shocking primordial goop) make this Master DNA Code, and if so then how did the Premodial goop and Earth and Universe get here? And if there was a magical "Big Bang"(beginning) then how or why did that happen?

[mobiltec]

"And if there was a magical "Big Bang"(beginning) then how or why did that happen?"

At this time there are no available answers for your question. However just because we still don't know the real answers, it does not mean that we should turn to fairy tales of gods and spooks and demons as our default answer. That's like saying that before Newton discovered gravity, the gods kept us glued to the earth. Now we know why we don't fall off and it's not because of any gods.

[mobiltec]

"A Master Genetic Sequence that you "flip the switches" a certain way and get a Panda "flip the switches" another way and get a Pig, and "flip the switches" yet another way and get a Human."

Although genetic engineering is becoming common place, you don't just flip switches and go from a panda to a pig. And no one claimed anything about primordial goop.

[TheRealArchAngel]

Heh,heh. Take a closer loos at the fairy tale that is Macro Evolution that says "all animals came from a common ancestor" and that is magical flipping of switches to make one animal magically another. Evolution is another myth pulled out of an ass of someone trying not to be religious but still grasping at straws with pseudoc reationist bullshit. Totally unscientific to make such claims like Man came from apes then 'finding the proof" with the likes of "lucy"

[mobiltec]

I'm not going to argue science with a person who believes in magic.

[JMcH]

Well, good, because if you believe in the bullcaca in this video, you don't know anything about science, either.

[sandwiches1976]

Its the 21st century jackass. When you want to come join the rest of us please feel free.

[JMcH]

Oooh! I'm a "jackass." What a crippling argument.

Why don't you go back to your Shaolin testicle training? The adults are talking.

[Nebontha]

@sandwiches1976 Who was that directed towards?

[mxnad535]

This "bullcaca" is scientific theory based on physical evidence that, after being tested and studied thousands of times, always points to the same conclusion.

[nefrinhayat]

@mobiltec it's funny how we brand people as "evolutionists" and "creationists", I believe in God and also accept evolution and my religion (islam) doesn't reject evolution.

[TECHKLEC]

Will we ever get an answer to the question 'Are we alone"?

[noobiepai]

Given enough time, Yup.

Maybe life is so extremely unlikely to come about that we are the only ones. But that thought makes me shiver:)

So i prefer to think of life as something that just happends to pop up wherever there is organic molecules.

[TECHKLEC]

Right, I guess water, oxygen and the right temperatures.

[TheRealArchAngel]

For Earth life yes, THinking outside the box Life might somehow come out of silicon,Sulfer,and mercury dioxide. To ASSume a world must meet Earth's criteria is basically wishful thinking that Humans magically popped up somewhere else in the universe too.

[Salmo77]

Actually oxygen was mostly likely poisonous at the start, firs organisms produced first energy out of other elements, like Sulfur.

[TheRealArchAngel]

They have found the "building blocks of life" scattered among the dust among the cosmos and some scientist believe that why there is no evidence of a disease anywhere on earth and then it suddenly apears is because it actually comes down from Space (Viruses and Bacteria that prey on life on earth are "alien invaders")

[gaathiestsociety]

in less than fifty years,we will have first contact

[TECHKLEC]

Perhaps even less, but considering the Drake equation, I'm sure there will be lifeforms we will never know about...taking into account the vast distances involved!

[TheRealArchAngel]

Yes,Yes, and the problem with programs like SETI is that they ASSume that Intelligent life Elsewhere would use Radio Waves despite the fact that with about 30 million different life forms on Earth the chance that anything would develop the way humans did and use Radiowaves for communication is very slim.

[TECHKLEC]

Well, a good point,but...regardless of how advanced we get in exploring the universe, we will never have all the answers.

[yippittydoda]

and isn't that comforting to know... that we never will have all the answers... because that makes God who God is.... some "ONE" with a lot more know-how and know-about that we have or ever will have. the more that science "discovers," the more impressed I am with God

[Hottides]

The more science uncovers, the greater is my utter contempt for the unimaginative, parochial and petty concepts enshrined by the concept of God.

[Atheistjeremy]

"because that makes God who God is" Which god are you talking about and what evidence do you have for its existence?

[daughtry4eva]

wow

[daughtry4eva]

yeah it's maybe a chance of 50-50.. just a matter of time? i'm not a scientist so well smby can correct me :-)

[TECHKLEC]

Then, did you see the recent(6 Nov.) reports of the discovery of a five planet solar system 41 light years away around the star Cancri (in the constellation Cancer) with a planet in the 'habitable' zone?

[TECHKLEC]

The star is similar in size to our sun and the planet, although a 'gas giant' is about 71 million miles away (as compared to our distance of 93 million). The thought is that there may be hard surface moons which would support liquis water.

[daughtry4eva]

wow ok thanks !