Can't wait for the new series this summer! I'll still watch it even without Ianto *tear* (who was my favorite character). The audio books are really great for those of you who want more Torchwood between now and the summer.
how can you forget about Toshiko she was the best character on the show next to Jack I really dont like Gwen but she was great in the children of earth but I also dont like Owen he is so arrogant and gwen was Annoying
... This is slightly scary. I agree with every single word you just said. It can't be normal how you think just like me, it's like you're in my head. o.o
Torchwood is gonna come back. They've got a thing on Wikipedia about series 4. As Far as I know, it's going to have Martha Jones (Doctor Who) Mickey Smith (Doctor Who) with Gwen and Rhys from Torchwood. Not sure if Jacks going to be in it
torchwood is finished the series isnt coming back. they should give jack harkness his own series though and make it like an outer space sci fi opera/adventure series that would be brilliant!
Torchwood is like amazing. i love how it's more CSI and they can have blood and swearing thats no in doctor who. i really did want gwen and jack to get together and that really kept me watching but i understand why they didn't. i love how ianto really stepped up, he was really cute and funny. his death sucked. and i also love the connections back to doctor who, how jack really got his own path and told his story and how it connected back to the doctor.
i love torchwood to! its SO awsome, i love gwen and lanto best!!! ITS AMAZING! i cried so hard when owen and tosh died!! D = it was so sad!! and POOR LANTO!
i know to watch 60s 70s 80s doctor who might feel that youve got to grit your teeth against the unsophisticated BBC effects dept. but like millions of other people you might just fine it fun to fine the Doctor from twenty-thirty years ago. There is no romantic intrigue, but the doctor's still there as the mad, heroic character. If there was one story i would suggest you watch, would be the brilliant "Talons of Weng-Chiang" watch out fot the legends that are jago and Prof Litefoot.
I think The Doctor will find Jack (or vice versa) and they'll have fun and shennanigans, obviously on DT's regeneration episode (sob!) and then The Doctor will take Jack back to Torchwood when it's all over. In CoE Jack mentioned Martha being on her honeymoon, and saying what an inappropriate time it was, so I'm guessing Martha's in Torchwood; they'll be a random excuse for Mickey to come back, & this may be fangirl denial, but I do think Ianto will come back as well!
I know this is kinda random... but I think that if RTD is gonna bring anyone back from the dead for TW Series 4...it's gonna be Owen.
Cause we never actually SAW him die and I imagine if he somehow got out of the nuclear power station...he'd have to stay away from everybody cause he'd be giving off radioactive energy or something. LOL
Plus when Jack's leaving Earth at one point you can hear Owen's theme in the background...which kinda makes me think he's coming back. LOL
i believe Jack just needs to let off some steam. He had to deal with the stupidity of the human race and in dealing with that his partner died. So I think the next season will start with him heading back to earth and greeting Gwen. Or I think the season will start off with a disaster and gwen is trying to deal with it by herself and then jack comes at the last minute to save the day. I would really like to see Mickey in Torchwood i was hoping to see him in season 3 but he wasn't there.
Note: Possible major EOT spoilers ahead. They're claiming on a lot of the internet (including wikipedia) Rose and Jack might be back for End of Time, so Jack might not have left forever like the last COT episode suggested. So we have Jack and Gwen, then we drag Martha back, come up with a reason why we can have Mickey but he wasn't in the last season, and we could have an almost full cast. Plus, I'm hoping we get Bridget Jones' PA person, I forget what she was called, sorry ): 'cause I liked her
Cghidren of earth just showes how currept all govenments are and why we have to vote and listen to what our leaders say and do. And stand up and say no when they do something wrong.
Torchwood really does break your heart, but I just can't stop watching ^__^
I love Rhys, he's lovely. He was great with all of the children too, he will be a great dad. And CoE was when I finally fell in love with Gwen, I didn't like her pining over Jack.
I am sure Jack will be back, he will probably run into the Doctor again and then finally come home again ^__^
sorry. the quick point i wanted to make was Torchwood COE was brilliant. Unlike any mini series i have ever seen before. In the way it was set up, played with and pitched at us. For example, in the end was Frobisher good, bad, coward, hero, loving father or ... just a bullied little man (Peter Capaldi Brilliant!!!). And of course Torchwood will be back and with Captain Jack et al. and Kayley... you are looking very cute.
I was so gutted when Ianto died! I also have no idea what's going to happen with the show, I imagine they might bring in a new group of people. I hope not though.
I have just read all the comments and Freakishlemon really pissed me off. RTD is one of Britains finest screen writers we have ever had. please... he doesn't need your suggestions or advice. He has a proven track record of brilliant, unique thought provoking drama. Like RTD said Drama is not a democracy. Maybe he just thought he was writing for an adult audience who could deal with love, courage & self sacrifice. If you want happy endings & everyone to be alive at the end watch sesame street.
Owen was amazing. And so fraking gorgeous, oh my god. Rhys grew on me a lot this season too. Before he was just kind of a background character but in these 5 episodes he was funny and lovable. I liked Ianto, but he wasnt really my favorite character... I was heartbroken when he died though.
I think they'll bring back Gwen. Hopefully they leave out that new woman they introduced (forgot the name), because she really got on my nerves.
I love your shirt btw, do you know where they got it?
I hated Owen the first season. I've seriously never disliked a character more than I disliked Owen. He got better in the second season, though.
I watched CoE a while ago, and yeah, still upset over Ianto. But I do think CoE was a fantastic series overall, even if I don't think I can ever forgive Jack for what he did to Stephen.
Hopefully, Jack will redeem himself somehow, get over his angst/sorrow, and then go running back to Gwen for Season 4. I want Rhys being a full-time part of the team.
I have a theory , that jack will come back but it will be a diffrent jack ... becaus ethey found only his head shoulder and a leg i think so the rest of him may have grew into another jack who could make a new team etc .. and it may mean that the new jack will be on a revenge hunt for the old jack for killing his grandson ... wierd i know but that would be awesome and it seems plausable
I haven't done any research or anything, but my theory is that, if Torchwood comes back, it wont be Torchwood Cardiff, it will be Torchwood Glasgow- but according to wikipedia (good old wiki) Torchwood 2 has already disbanded.
they gotta hire lois!!! cos she's like the admin, set everything up "ianto" style character that he was in the first series. Martha cud fill in the doc position til they find sum1 new. And they still have the hub 2 so they can operate from there
I dont remember where i read this but i think i saw something that said that season 4 wouldent go along with CoE. idk. my only idea would be that jack comes back. couldent gwen take over toorchwood with resse idk just a thought. i mean they could like get a team together and
I watched CoE along with the British viewers when it first came out over a month ago and trust me, it doesn't hold up. For about a week, I thought it was great (save for the whole Ianto dying bit), but I can't even think about it without being angry about the glaring characterization crap.
And frankly, Russell T. Davies has been a dick about the fan response to Ianto's death, so that's not endearing me to CoE at all.
Don't know if you've heard, but there is a Save Ianto Jones campaign. :D
i agree he has been a dick, but he's point blank said he isn't going to bring ianto back :(:( and he isn't listening to the fans... which is actually a stupid thing to do and say. and i used to like him.
He's also said that he deliberately lies to the press and that he only brought Rose back because of the fans, so I'm not inclined to take anything he says at face value. If the protest reaches the right people and continues strongly, the BBC can tell him what to do in any new seasons. They've done it before.
Yeah, I've heard a lot of crap about RTD. But I can hardly be mad at him; look at all he's done for us fans! We wouldn't even be talking about Torchwood if not for him.
True, we wouldn't be talking about Torchwood, but sometimes I think that might be better. I've been a huge fan for about a year and forced all my friends to watch it, but right now I feel a bit like Suzie. We were promised the universe, but all we got was the "Weevils and bollocks and shit" (except without the Weevils, damn it). I'm tempted to start a shoot-myself-in-the-face-but-come-back-and-wreak-havoc plan of my own.
Damn character limit. I've got far too much to say about this whole thing
Great Jacket. Torchwood better have some life after this. I love it and would be sad to see it leave. Maybe we could have a partial season with Gwen at the helm, with some people with her, maybe even Rhys, and then Jack come back. One could hope.
I don't think there's gonna be any more Torchwood for a while, and then, when they need a big OOH in Dr Who, they'll bring Jack back and TW will start again.
those who are saying, "when jack's in doctorwho then torchwood'll return" he's in one/ two of the 2009 specials... probably the last one... their are spoiler vids from comic con
I watched Children of Earth with my sister, which was luckily on in Australia at the same time as the UK, and my mum only saw the last episode and she just commented on how heartbreaking it was.
My sister did mention that they had Jack leave because if the series did badly it was going to be cancelled, but since it rated so well I'm going to hope/assume that he comes back.
There are a few possibilities for the future of Torchwood:
1) No more Torchwood. It seems like they were trying to bring the show to a close, in a way. Buuuut knowing writers, somebody won't be able to leave the idea alone, so option #1 is out. It may take some time before we see Torchwood again, but SOMEBODY is going to want to continue it.
(Continued in another reply due to the effing character count...)
2) You pointed out how badass Gwen was. This badassery now firmly established, I think Gwen could hold her own as the central leader-type character of a new team. The door is still open for Martha and Mickey to join the team, too (they were only absent, recently, due to the actors having other commitments). It would take better writing - much as I love Jack, he's become the Wolverine of Whoniverse writing. A deus ex machina. A mysterious, unkillable ball of cool providing a last-minute loophole.
In short: Jack, sadly, became an easy tool for cheap writing. Aaand random nude shots. That can still prove a good, entertaining, engaging and all-around quite awesome...but there's no doubt that the writing will have to amp up if they pursue a Jack-less Torchwood series.
3) Finally, the oft-used, ever-popular, bring-back-the-mysterious-unkillable-ball-of-cool-just-when-he's-needed-most route. Nothing like a good, easy loophole when your characters are up against the wall, right? :-D
I tend to think option #3 will most likely be used, though I'd love to see option #2 last as long as possible before #3 is implemented. Gwen has proven herself tough, capable, badass and interesting. I say let her shine for a while without the distraction of the charming, immortal beefcake.
As a side-note, it's entirely possible they only had Jack leave to set up whatever role (small or large) he'll play in the Doctor's forthcoming adventure/regeneration. If so, they may well end with him going right back to Torchwood...again, though, I hope not. Let his character reflect and heal for a while. Possibly also brood.
okay series four torchwood... my theories of a way they could recast it... kinda replacing character roles...
Gwen is the new (albeit mortal) Jack
Martha is the new Owen
Mickey is the new Tosh
Lois is the new Ianto
and Andy is new Gwen...
but i think the hub will get rebuilt and gwen may just take over mayhaps... i'm kinda worried that Gray some how got loose... and i'm reaaaally hoping that Myfanwy (the pteranodon) and Janet didn't die cuz that would just be tragic...
I just can't see them continuing Torchwood without Jack, so unless I hear otherwise, I'm thinking he'll eventually come back. I just knew he'd take off in the end, though. I mean, he probably felt like he just keeps losing people and then Ianto AND his grandson? That would be too much for any person to handle. It'd be really cool if Gwen had to go into space and find him or something. Idk. That's immediately what I thought about after he left. I really don't want Torchwood to end, though. :/
I JUST finished Children of Earth on Tuesday, and OMG... I got spoiled for Ianto, but still... the entire special was BADASS. They really went there with the whole "government taking children away from their families" plotline. It shocked me a little bit -- especially the end with Jack. I felt so horrible for him. Torchwood just knows how to always crush my heart into tiny pieces. S2 of Torchwood was one of the best seasons of TV I've probably ever watched I think.
Gwen was amazing in COE!!! And Rhys grew on me as well!! I used to want Gwen and And Jack needs to stop freakin leaving!!!! He better come back :( And I MISS IANTO!!! ugh. I'm sure Jack will come back one day. I mean... he kinda has to if the series wants to continue lol
One of the best scenes in the series is when Gwen says to Ryse "I would marry you even if weevils crawl out of the sewers on St. Mary's street!" I just loved that! I pretty much agree with what you said too. :)
I heard that they (the producers) ended Torchwood because John Barrowman was starting to age and his character isn't supposed to. I hope it keeps going though! If it did I think they'd have to start over with totally new characters at a new hub, because that was destroyed too!
Doesn't Jack just age really slowly, though? Why couldn't they do a fast forward into the future and have a slightly older Jack fifty years later, with a little blip about what happened to Gwen and Rhys and the baby?
In DW, Jack was said to be the Face of Boe, and maybe that's what supposedly happens after Jack ages for millions of years. He'll just be a shriveled up... head.
I'd love to see Lady Christina join Torchwood. They could repair and do up that flying bus too, fit it out, and it could be a mobile Torchwood HQ.... Christina and Jack would have wonderful chemistry in my opinion....!
I'm terribly sorry, I feel really know-it-all-y for saying this but iMandie asked for the spelling, so I shall give it, his name is spelled "Rhys". :P
And lol, I'm still calling the kid Edward in my head. xD Potatoes have never been so hilarious.
nice jacket! The hood make you look a bit little red riding hood but thats cool. Be sure to check out the animated special of Doctor Who: Dreamland. I just found out about that today but it looks cool. check the Doctor who website for details
ive heard that RTD already has all of season 4 planned out in his head. i am so interested to see how he does it. i do like Lois and hope she comes back. I also always wanted Martha to quit UNIT and join Torchwood, so maybe that will happen? and Jack definitely has to come back. its not Torchwood without him.
Appatently Freema said in some interview that she's not going to be a permanent character on Torchwood. I honestly don't remember where I heard that or what the reasons are behind it, though.
Well, they could bring in Lois Habiba (sp?). She wasn't my favorite character, but she's definitely brave enough.
For a second, my crazy mind thought another-Doctor-Who-crossover and suggested Donna as a member of Torchwood (since we know she's going to be in DW again, somehow), but as much as I love her, she doesn't have the right personality. She can be really forceful when she needs to, but I don't think she could handle what Torchwood goes through.
I really liked Children of Earth even though it was heartbreaking. I hope that Capt. Jack comes back! Reese should become a permanete member of Torchwood because he is great. Hopefully they bring back more people? Maybe Martha Jones? I haven't seen Doctor Who in a while so she may be dead/lost her memory...hahaha. And I'm so happy that you've made three videos today, Kayley. This has definitely been a Kayley Wednesday XD Thanks and great video!
WHY IANTO?! The way he delivered the funnies in his monotone was just priceless. SO awesome.
I felt Tosh's death the most. Maybe because she was overlooked so often. Her little goodbye video after she died had me sobbing really embarassingly.
They ended COE really cleanly. I mean, Jack could come back, and then the new season could circle around the conflict of Gwen trying to raise a kid while fighting aliens and Jack dealing with Ianto's death and all. Maybe some new cool characters, too.
NEW TORCHWOOD coming out this year YAY!
forwardslashAWESOME 7 months ago
Toshiko's death video. Gahhhhhh tears tears tears tears
fantasticmrmatthew 8 months ago
Pirates of the caribbean couldn't go on without Captian Jack Sparrow.
Torchwood can't go on without Captain Jack Harkness.
mushroomshrub 9 months ago 3
I probably shouldn't have watched 'Countrycide' in the dark at 3 in the morning D:
xCurlGrlx 9 months ago 4
where do i find the 3rd season, with my being broke and not being able to actually by the box set. . . (sigh)?. . . anyone. . . please?
BriarNeverSay 11 months ago
very nice jacket and t-shirt :)
NicoleCorp77 1 year ago
Can't wait for the new series this summer! I'll still watch it even without Ianto *tear* (who was my favorite character). The audio books are really great for those of you who want more Torchwood between now and the summer.
Also, I love love love that jacket.
craisins95 1 year ago
There won't be another Torchwood I don't think :(
welshchick1993 1 year ago
What did you think about the Countrycide episode? That one blew my mind.
luvsthespotlight 1 year ago
OMG, I love how nerdy you are. The Jacket was the best part.
ctk86 1 year ago
how can you forget about Toshiko she was the best character on the show next to Jack I really dont like Gwen but she was great in the children of earth but I also dont like Owen he is so arrogant and gwen was Annoying
bigvampire21 1 year ago
how can you like Owen when he's such a conceited, not very attractive, man whore? :/
heyitsleeuhh 1 year ago
... This is slightly scary. I agree with every single word you just said. It can't be normal how you think just like me, it's like you're in my head. o.o
hollabooiers 1 year ago
i think Jack should bring Alonso with him when he comes back...
JessMeg7 1 year ago
I have a Doctor Donna coat. It's a cross between Donna's and the Doctor's !!!
lamarnza 2 years ago
Torchwood is gonna come back. They've got a thing on Wikipedia about series 4. As Far as I know, it's going to have Martha Jones (Doctor Who) Mickey Smith (Doctor Who) with Gwen and Rhys from Torchwood. Not sure if Jacks going to be in it
ss4706 2 years ago
if jack isnt in it its not torchwood and nobody is going to watch it.
doctorw2 2 years ago
torchwood is finished the series isnt coming back. they should give jack harkness his own series though and make it like an outer space sci fi opera/adventure series that would be brilliant!
doctorw2 2 years ago
It is coming back!! Read Wiki. It's gonna be Martha Jones, Mickey Smith, Gwen, Rhys and maybe Jack!
ss4706 2 years ago
I actually didn't Torchwood until the Children of Earth. Oh and cool jacket.
larsreal9 2 years ago
Torchwood is like amazing. i love how it's more CSI and they can have blood and swearing thats no in doctor who. i really did want gwen and jack to get together and that really kept me watching but i understand why they didn't. i love how ianto really stepped up, he was really cute and funny. his death sucked. and i also love the connections back to doctor who, how jack really got his own path and told his story and how it connected back to the doctor.
ThatsJustBrilliant 2 years ago
I loved Rhys since the very beginning, he's just so sweet.
ChamelionCircuit 2 years ago
i agree on evryhting apart from rhys. he really pisses me of! (i was suppost to post that yesterday but i accidently pressed *post comment*"
martha368 2 years ago
i love torchwood to! its SO awsome, i love gwen and lanto best!!! ITS AMAZING! i cried so hard when owen and tosh died!! D = it was so sad!! and POOR LANTO!
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josie6275 2 years ago
There is no torchwood team since its only gwen.
watts4563 2 years ago
Ow BTW the waters of mars is a anagram for; the master's return.
watts4563 2 years ago
Where does the w of "waters" go in "The Master's Return"? or the o and the f from "of"?
You didn't quite think that through now did you.
Coffeeaddict101 2 years ago
OOps i got its mixed up its; War of the masters.
watts4563 2 years ago
I don't think they'll do Torchwood without Jack. I think they'll just give him a new team, in a new place.
saraxhp 2 years ago
Ianto was always my favorite. His death was completely unnecessary and ugh. He was such a good character. I cried for HOURS.
saraxhp 2 years ago
I just watched Florence & The Machine and then watched this and was like 'woah.'
hollium 2 years ago
i know to watch 60s 70s 80s doctor who might feel that youve got to grit your teeth against the unsophisticated BBC effects dept. but like millions of other people you might just fine it fun to fine the Doctor from twenty-thirty years ago. There is no romantic intrigue, but the doctor's still there as the mad, heroic character. If there was one story i would suggest you watch, would be the brilliant "Talons of Weng-Chiang" watch out fot the legends that are jago and Prof Litefoot.
logopolis63 2 years ago
Your jacket is amazing <33
I think The Doctor will find Jack (or vice versa) and they'll have fun and shennanigans, obviously on DT's regeneration episode (sob!) and then The Doctor will take Jack back to Torchwood when it's all over. In CoE Jack mentioned Martha being on her honeymoon, and saying what an inappropriate time it was, so I'm guessing Martha's in Torchwood; they'll be a random excuse for Mickey to come back, & this may be fangirl denial, but I do think Ianto will come back as well!
loveisallineedXx 2 years ago
didnt the doctor stop jack from teleporting after the master died?!?!?
legoguy2894 2 years ago
Torchwood is terrific. I really hope they do more. The jacket is great, glad you got something so awesome in NYC.
seurat2 2 years ago
I know this is kinda random... but I think that if RTD is gonna bring anyone back from the dead for TW Series 4...it's gonna be Owen.
Cause we never actually SAW him die and I imagine if he somehow got out of the nuclear power station...he'd have to stay away from everybody cause he'd be giving off radioactive energy or something. LOL
Plus when Jack's leaving Earth at one point you can hear Owen's theme in the background...which kinda makes me think he's coming back. LOL
RnDFoever25 2 years ago
I said I was going to spoil! You were warned xD
owlssayhooot 2 years ago
I really really kinda love the Rose/Martha jacket. It's amazing! WANTZ.
~Kiera
ianswertobob 2 years ago
i believe Jack just needs to let off some steam. He had to deal with the stupidity of the human race and in dealing with that his partner died. So I think the next season will start with him heading back to earth and greeting Gwen. Or I think the season will start off with a disaster and gwen is trying to deal with it by herself and then jack comes at the last minute to save the day. I would really like to see Mickey in Torchwood i was hoping to see him in season 3 but he wasn't there.
animaguspadfoot 2 years ago
I love your hair :)
PrincessPotato 2 years ago
Note: Possible major EOT spoilers ahead. They're claiming on a lot of the internet (including wikipedia) Rose and Jack might be back for End of Time, so Jack might not have left forever like the last COT episode suggested. So we have Jack and Gwen, then we drag Martha back, come up with a reason why we can have Mickey but he wasn't in the last season, and we could have an almost full cast. Plus, I'm hoping we get Bridget Jones' PA person, I forget what she was called, sorry ): 'cause I liked her
IntaXonem 2 years ago
Yes, Torchwood broke my heart many times. But I still watch it, because it's too good.
Cute jacket.
arthurweasley 2 years ago
i love Torchwood as well:)
by the way, Kayley, you look adorable as a red head! ^_^
KennilworthyWhisp 2 years ago
Season 3 of Torchwood was just sensational.
It is a must WATCH !!!
DanielJones2291 2 years ago
Cghidren of earth just showes how currept all govenments are and why we have to vote and listen to what our leaders say and do. And stand up and say no when they do something wrong.
Endathecyberlord 2 years ago
Children of Earth was a brilliant piece of drama and by far the best summer TV event in a while...even it was depressing to watch...i loved it
Timeforthaunted 2 years ago
You're hair looks so pretty ^__^
Torchwood really does break your heart, but I just can't stop watching ^__^
I love Rhys, he's lovely. He was great with all of the children too, he will be a great dad. And CoE was when I finally fell in love with Gwen, I didn't like her pining over Jack.
I am sure Jack will be back, he will probably run into the Doctor again and then finally come home again ^__^
Silver1226 2 years ago
sorry. the quick point i wanted to make was Torchwood COE was brilliant. Unlike any mini series i have ever seen before. In the way it was set up, played with and pitched at us. For example, in the end was Frobisher good, bad, coward, hero, loving father or ... just a bullied little man (Peter Capaldi Brilliant!!!). And of course Torchwood will be back and with Captain Jack et al. and Kayley... you are looking very cute.
logopolis63 2 years ago
I was so gutted when Ianto died! I also have no idea what's going to happen with the show, I imagine they might bring in a new group of people. I hope not though.
TheSalmonShoes 2 years ago
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TheSalmonShoes 2 years ago
I have just read all the comments and Freakishlemon really pissed me off. RTD is one of Britains finest screen writers we have ever had. please... he doesn't need your suggestions or advice. He has a proven track record of brilliant, unique thought provoking drama. Like RTD said Drama is not a democracy. Maybe he just thought he was writing for an adult audience who could deal with love, courage & self sacrifice. If you want happy endings & everyone to be alive at the end watch sesame street.
logopolis63 2 years ago
Owen was amazing. And so fraking gorgeous, oh my god. Rhys grew on me a lot this season too. Before he was just kind of a background character but in these 5 episodes he was funny and lovable. I liked Ianto, but he wasnt really my favorite character... I was heartbroken when he died though.
I think they'll bring back Gwen. Hopefully they leave out that new woman they introduced (forgot the name), because she really got on my nerves.
I love your shirt btw, do you know where they got it?
SirMalrose 2 years ago
Rhys was so sweet with all of the children :)
You mean Lois? I adored her!
Online, I'm sure! Dunno where.
owlssayhooot 2 years ago
I hated Owen the first season. I've seriously never disliked a character more than I disliked Owen. He got better in the second season, though.
I watched CoE a while ago, and yeah, still upset over Ianto. But I do think CoE was a fantastic series overall, even if I don't think I can ever forgive Jack for what he did to Stephen.
Hopefully, Jack will redeem himself somehow, get over his angst/sorrow, and then go running back to Gwen for Season 4. I want Rhys being a full-time part of the team.
thephantommilk 2 years ago
I like Rhys' balance. I like that he can help without the constant danger. He's like a secret weapon or theirs. :)
owlssayhooot 2 years ago
I have a theory , that jack will come back but it will be a diffrent jack ... becaus ethey found only his head shoulder and a leg i think so the rest of him may have grew into another jack who could make a new team etc .. and it may mean that the new jack will be on a revenge hunt for the old jack for killing his grandson ... wierd i know but that would be awesome and it seems plausable
helloitsmasterhulk 2 years ago
I haven't done any research or anything, but my theory is that, if Torchwood comes back, it wont be Torchwood Cardiff, it will be Torchwood Glasgow- but according to wikipedia (good old wiki) Torchwood 2 has already disbanded.
sk8erguy39 2 years ago
they gotta hire lois!!! cos she's like the admin, set everything up "ianto" style character that he was in the first series. Martha cud fill in the doc position til they find sum1 new. And they still have the hub 2 so they can operate from there
clazluvsdolphins 2 years ago
Yeah, I think Lois could "replace" Ianto and Martha could "replace" Owen (I use quotations because obviously they could never really be replaced.)
owlssayhooot 2 years ago
I dont remember where i read this but i think i saw something that said that season 4 wouldent go along with CoE. idk. my only idea would be that jack comes back. couldent gwen take over toorchwood with resse idk just a thought. i mean they could like get a team together and
doomdude1234 2 years ago
I watched CoE along with the British viewers when it first came out over a month ago and trust me, it doesn't hold up. For about a week, I thought it was great (save for the whole Ianto dying bit), but I can't even think about it without being angry about the glaring characterization crap.
And frankly, Russell T. Davies has been a dick about the fan response to Ianto's death, so that's not endearing me to CoE at all.
Don't know if you've heard, but there is a Save Ianto Jones campaign. :D
freakishlemon 2 years ago
i agree he has been a dick, but he's point blank said he isn't going to bring ianto back :(:( and he isn't listening to the fans... which is actually a stupid thing to do and say. and i used to like him.
clazluvsdolphins 2 years ago
He's also said that he deliberately lies to the press and that he only brought Rose back because of the fans, so I'm not inclined to take anything he says at face value. If the protest reaches the right people and continues strongly, the BBC can tell him what to do in any new seasons. They've done it before.
freakishlemon 2 years ago
Yeah, I've heard a lot of crap about RTD. But I can hardly be mad at him; look at all he's done for us fans! We wouldn't even be talking about Torchwood if not for him.
And I have heard of the campaign. xD
owlssayhooot 2 years ago
True, we wouldn't be talking about Torchwood, but sometimes I think that might be better. I've been a huge fan for about a year and forced all my friends to watch it, but right now I feel a bit like Suzie. We were promised the universe, but all we got was the "Weevils and bollocks and shit" (except without the Weevils, damn it). I'm tempted to start a shoot-myself-in-the-face-but-come-back-and-wreak-havoc plan of my own.
Damn character limit. I've got far too much to say about this whole thing
freakishlemon 2 years ago
Great Jacket. Torchwood better have some life after this. I love it and would be sad to see it leave. Maybe we could have a partial season with Gwen at the helm, with some people with her, maybe even Rhys, and then Jack come back. One could hope.
DukeofYar 2 years ago
I don't think there's gonna be any more Torchwood for a while, and then, when they need a big OOH in Dr Who, they'll bring Jack back and TW will start again.
fivebyfivewhat 2 years ago
those who are saying, "when jack's in doctorwho then torchwood'll return" he's in one/ two of the 2009 specials... probably the last one... their are spoiler vids from comic con
clazluvsdolphins 2 years ago
I watched Children of Earth with my sister, which was luckily on in Australia at the same time as the UK, and my mum only saw the last episode and she just commented on how heartbreaking it was.
My sister did mention that they had Jack leave because if the series did badly it was going to be cancelled, but since it rated so well I'm going to hope/assume that he comes back.
lrocke08 2 years ago
I am infinitely jealous of your shirt.
There are a few possibilities for the future of Torchwood:
1) No more Torchwood. It seems like they were trying to bring the show to a close, in a way. Buuuut knowing writers, somebody won't be able to leave the idea alone, so option #1 is out. It may take some time before we see Torchwood again, but SOMEBODY is going to want to continue it.
(Continued in another reply due to the effing character count...)
AdamTheAlien 2 years ago
2) You pointed out how badass Gwen was. This badassery now firmly established, I think Gwen could hold her own as the central leader-type character of a new team. The door is still open for Martha and Mickey to join the team, too (they were only absent, recently, due to the actors having other commitments). It would take better writing - much as I love Jack, he's become the Wolverine of Whoniverse writing. A deus ex machina. A mysterious, unkillable ball of cool providing a last-minute loophole.
AdamTheAlien 2 years ago
In short: Jack, sadly, became an easy tool for cheap writing. Aaand random nude shots. That can still prove a good, entertaining, engaging and all-around quite awesome...but there's no doubt that the writing will have to amp up if they pursue a Jack-less Torchwood series.
3) Finally, the oft-used, ever-popular, bring-back-the-mysterious-unkillable-ball-of-cool-just-when-he's-needed-most route. Nothing like a good, easy loophole when your characters are up against the wall, right? :-D
AdamTheAlien 2 years ago
I tend to think option #3 will most likely be used, though I'd love to see option #2 last as long as possible before #3 is implemented. Gwen has proven herself tough, capable, badass and interesting. I say let her shine for a while without the distraction of the charming, immortal beefcake.
AdamTheAlien 2 years ago
As a side-note, it's entirely possible they only had Jack leave to set up whatever role (small or large) he'll play in the Doctor's forthcoming adventure/regeneration. If so, they may well end with him going right back to Torchwood...again, though, I hope not. Let his character reflect and heal for a while. Possibly also brood.
AdamTheAlien 2 years ago
okay series four torchwood... my theories of a way they could recast it... kinda replacing character roles...
Gwen is the new (albeit mortal) Jack
Martha is the new Owen
Mickey is the new Tosh
Lois is the new Ianto
and Andy is new Gwen...
but i think the hub will get rebuilt and gwen may just take over mayhaps... i'm kinda worried that Gray some how got loose... and i'm reaaaally hoping that Myfanwy (the pteranodon) and Janet didn't die cuz that would just be tragic...
squirrelyTONKS 2 years ago 2
I don't think Andy could be Gwen. And Mickey is definitely not tech-savvy enough, from what we've seen, to be Tosh.
owlssayhooot 2 years ago
Maybe not Tosh but Mickey and Martha are going to come back and be members. I'm not sure if Jack will be back in it thhough
ss4706 2 years ago
i saw torchwood and i came running!!!! XD
ugggghhh CoE put me in the worst sort of depression ever... it was not fun... specially Ianto dying and Jack leaving...
but ANDY was freaking AWESOME...
Rhys became one of my favourites after Meeting Kai at Gallifrey One.
ugghh torchwood theories are going in another comment they won't all fit in this one XD
squirrelyTONKS 2 years ago
I saw Kai in panto a few years ago, and I agree with you, after seeing him properly, it's IMPOSSIBLE not to like Rhys. xD
missmossxx 2 years ago
I just can't see them continuing Torchwood without Jack, so unless I hear otherwise, I'm thinking he'll eventually come back. I just knew he'd take off in the end, though. I mean, he probably felt like he just keeps losing people and then Ianto AND his grandson? That would be too much for any person to handle. It'd be really cool if Gwen had to go into space and find him or something. Idk. That's immediately what I thought about after he left. I really don't want Torchwood to end, though. :/
electricmermaids 2 years ago
I JUST finished Children of Earth on Tuesday, and OMG... I got spoiled for Ianto, but still... the entire special was BADASS. They really went there with the whole "government taking children away from their families" plotline. It shocked me a little bit -- especially the end with Jack. I felt so horrible for him. Torchwood just knows how to always crush my heart into tiny pieces. S2 of Torchwood was one of the best seasons of TV I've probably ever watched I think.
electricmermaids 2 years ago
argggggg xx u have a spring awakening poster xx luv it
and torchwood rules xx lol =D
xkadie999x 2 years ago
Kayley, where can I find the radio special? This is the first I'm hearing about it! :/
humiliat3dGrape 2 years ago
Rply to comment -
The radio specials are called -
Lost Souls (Guest Starring Freema Agyeman as Martha)
Asylum (Guest Starring Tom Price as PC Andy)
Golden Age (No team guest stars)
and The Dead Line (Guest starring Kai Owen as Rhys (note spelling) )
flaziola 2 years ago
yeah, they're all on youtube. see flaziola's comment. :)
owlssayhooot 2 years ago
Torchwood FTW!
JXintheZ 2 years ago
agreed FTW!
nothingtado1 2 years ago
Gwen was amazing in COE!!! And Rhys grew on me as well!! I used to want Gwen and And Jack needs to stop freakin leaving!!!! He better come back :( And I MISS IANTO!!! ugh. I'm sure Jack will come back one day. I mean... he kinda has to if the series wants to continue lol
CallesCrazyCorner 2 years ago
One of the best scenes in the series is when Gwen says to Ryse "I would marry you even if weevils crawl out of the sewers on St. Mary's street!" I just loved that! I pretty much agree with what you said too. :)
I heard that they (the producers) ended Torchwood because John Barrowman was starting to age and his character isn't supposed to. I hope it keeps going though! If it did I think they'd have to start over with totally new characters at a new hub, because that was destroyed too!
MichelleTells 2 years ago
Doesn't Jack just age really slowly, though? Why couldn't they do a fast forward into the future and have a slightly older Jack fifty years later, with a little blip about what happened to Gwen and Rhys and the baby?
In DW, Jack was said to be the Face of Boe, and maybe that's what supposedly happens after Jack ages for millions of years. He'll just be a shriveled up... head.
midaftermoon 2 years ago
Maybe! That'd be really cool! :)
MichelleTells 2 years ago
I'd love to see Lady Christina join Torchwood. They could repair and do up that flying bus too, fit it out, and it could be a mobile Torchwood HQ.... Christina and Jack would have wonderful chemistry in my opinion....!
EmeraldGemstar09 2 years ago
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She's pathetic
ss4706 2 years ago
oh that shirt is super awesome!
memorexx08 2 years ago
I have a feeling that Gwen will start up torchwood with Reese (sp?) after the baby is born, and eventually Jack has to come back
iMandie 2 years ago 2
Reese Jr will be in Torchwood, obv. He'll learn to chew, walk, use the toilet and use a gun. xD
owlssayhooot 2 years ago
I'm terribly sorry, I feel really know-it-all-y for saying this but iMandie asked for the spelling, so I shall give it, his name is spelled "Rhys". :P
And lol, I'm still calling the kid Edward in my head. xD Potatoes have never been so hilarious.
missmossxx 2 years ago
oh, thanks!
owlssayhooot 2 years ago
nice jacket! The hood make you look a bit little red riding hood but thats cool. Be sure to check out the animated special of Doctor Who: Dreamland. I just found out about that today but it looks cool. check the Doctor who website for details
grnlfe01 2 years ago
um?
ss4706 2 years ago
ive heard that RTD already has all of season 4 planned out in his head. i am so interested to see how he does it. i do like Lois and hope she comes back. I also always wanted Martha to quit UNIT and join Torchwood, so maybe that will happen? and Jack definitely has to come back. its not Torchwood without him.
laurdas620 2 years ago
Appatently Freema said in some interview that she's not going to be a permanent character on Torchwood. I honestly don't remember where I heard that or what the reasons are behind it, though.
humiliat3dGrape 2 years ago
Well, they could bring in Lois Habiba (sp?). She wasn't my favorite character, but she's definitely brave enough.
For a second, my crazy mind thought another-Doctor-Who-crossover and suggested Donna as a member of Torchwood (since we know she's going to be in DW again, somehow), but as much as I love her, she doesn't have the right personality. She can be really forceful when she needs to, but I don't think she could handle what Torchwood goes through.
lynxdaemonskye 2 years ago
Donna would be awful. She'd just start crying. :P
owlssayhooot 2 years ago
Donna's the best
ss4706 2 years ago
I really liked Children of Earth even though it was heartbreaking. I hope that Capt. Jack comes back! Reese should become a permanete member of Torchwood because he is great. Hopefully they bring back more people? Maybe Martha Jones? I haven't seen Doctor Who in a while so she may be dead/lost her memory...hahaha. And I'm so happy that you've made three videos today, Kayley. This has definitely been a Kayley Wednesday XD Thanks and great video!
emmfan09 2 years ago
WHY IANTO?! The way he delivered the funnies in his monotone was just priceless. SO awesome.
I felt Tosh's death the most. Maybe because she was overlooked so often. Her little goodbye video after she died had me sobbing really embarassingly.
They ended COE really cleanly. I mean, Jack could come back, and then the new season could circle around the conflict of Gwen trying to raise a kid while fighting aliens and Jack dealing with Ianto's death and all. Maybe some new cool characters, too.
whyyohyou 2 years ago
Her video was so hard to watch through the tears!
And I hope Lois come back; she was awesome.
owlssayhooot 2 years ago
Watching this because of Tumblr, but . . . honestly, im confused.
Thomidnight19 2 years ago