Thanks. I've gotten much better at this since the video was posted. I now measure the painting AFTER it has been stretched, rather than just the stretcher. The paintings actually fit inside my frames now.
I'm not sure if this sounds completely silly, but as far as getting the corners of each side to fit, is there anything in particular you have to do while cutting the pieces to make sure that the angle is correct?
Thanks! Hey, you said you got the belt clamp for about $12, where did you find it? (I've never seen one before.) You mentioned Princess Auto for first black and orange clamp, is that were you got the other clamp too?
YouTube doesn't like links in messages, but if you google "Adjustable Band Frame Clamp" you should find a link to order one. I've seen them at princess auto and canadian tire.
DId you cut by hand or use a machine? The only "mitre" saws I have seen are quite large and expensive. I only have a tiny amount and space..and money to work with.
these boards were cut by machine. I used a small, cheap chop saw with a 10" blade, (80 tooth w/ carbide tips. but 60-tooth is good enough if it's new)
For some reason, I'm never able to get a good, clean cut by hand, even with a miter-box
This video is brilliant. Simple yet informative. I love the ending. Even if you don't want to learn about framing, watch the whole thing just for that ending.
That looks messy and hard. How much would it cost to get someone to do one like that for you? And how much did those materials cost you? How much did all the tools cost you?
depending on the frame shop, hand made wood floats can range from $80-$200, or even higher. Machine-made float frames (usually plastic or plaster coated pine, bass, or even balsa wood) can be as low as $20, but lack durability.
Now that I already have the tools hardware, I only need to worry about the the cost of wood/varnish/paint/glue. For each frame this size, it is probably around $20 or so each. (this was made from leftover scraps from some bigger frames)
I like your idea. I'm a photographer, but I was a woodworker in a past life. I'd like to make a suggestion, it would entail adding another piece of equipment but I think it is essential to strengthen the bond between the two pieces. It's reasonably simple though, drill 3, 4 or 5 matching holes (dependent on length) along the mating surfaces. Make them the diameter of toothpicks. The toothpicks act as mini dowels. Switch to yellow wood glue, it causes the toothpick to expand tightening them.
I'd like to make some of these to use for some pieces on 1/8" thick hardboard. Any suggestions on what to use to connect the hardboard to the frame for the final step. I know it's a really basic question but I've never tried anything like this before. Also, do you use these for your photographs?
I've actually been working on a way to do this and have it look nice. I haven't figured it out just yet, but I'm playing with a table saw, cutting little grooves into the inside of the frame, sliding the hardboard inside, then gluing and clamping it all together. My saw blade is 1/8th thick, the perfect size for the board, but the problem is, if you ever want to disassemble it, some hardware must be visible, or a second frame must be built to go around this one.
@ar4216 I would suggest mounting the hardboard as if you were building a painting panel. Simple connect four mitered sides and glue the hardboard on top of this frame. From here, you can build the floater frame as usual and fasten it to the panel from the back. I would also suggest building the floater slightly larger than the painting. Not only does it look great with a "floating" gap between the work and the frame, but it will not risk being damaged as his painting is forced in in the video.
I have watched several videos on frame making and found this to be the simplest and easiest method. The ending was Funny,but still usefull.I will be sure not to make the same mistake now.Thankyou!
I would love that people like u, who take their time to teach other on video, to prepare first and talk less so that you can improve the more without lost of time. Anyway thank you for teaching.
If I speak too fast, I might be accused of trying to imitate the zero punctuation guy. ;)
This video was a little scattered and random, since it was unscripted, i was just talking as i went, then editing it down later. plus I was testing out some new audio gear, so I was more concerned with technical stuff than I was with content.
In my newer instructional videos, I try to be a little more organized. I plan things out before I shoot now, I hope it helps.
I don't believe that you didn't use a pigmented primer on top of that stain Kyle. Yes, I'm an artist too. Nice to know that you are as well. You, and I have alot of similar interests. Too bad I have a crappy camera to make videos! You forgot to allow 1/16-1/8 inch for a snug fit. F___ at the end, doesn't sound good, but it made me laugh. I love it dude. It shows that you aren't afraid to f*ck up even in front of how ever many people view this. Great video.
I stain the wood black before painting in black. I've had frames get chipped before the show, and that little fleck of wood showing through really pops out. the black stain under the paint hides any shipping damage nicely.
I measured the frame to fit the stretcher bars with a 1/4" gap to spare. What I forgot to account for was the thickness of the canvas wrapped around that stretcher. I measured the wrong thing, but I learned an important lesson, so i guess it was worth it.
It was 1/8th of an inch to small. an 8th! i could have fixed that with more sanding!
Since posting this, I've made some smaller stretchers that do fit these frames.
great job! Not criticizing you at all, believe me, your light years ahead of my carpentry skills! Really enjoyed the end of your video as I never seen it coming.
But I can't take all the credit for the skills needed to build this. It pays to have friends who work at a frame shop. it takes time, but its 50%-75% cheaper than buying them.
Haha I feel your pain as well. Great vid! I need to do this and I have the tools but I wasn't sure about the measurements. Thanks!!
cw8307 3 weeks ago
Where did you buy the tool that wraps around the entire frame to hold it together (that cost $12.00) please and what is it called?
verumimillenium 1 month ago
Very well done instructional. Hilarious ending! Sorry, but I laughed out loud at that.
bettysman 1 month ago 3
@bettysman
Thanks for watching right through to the end.
When I make frames now, I never forget to add the 6mm (or 1/4 inch) allowance. It's important.
theheadlessrabbit 1 month ago
@bettysman Bwahahahahhaahaha! Me too. So funny.
AveIvy 3 weeks ago
Thank you so much for your video. This cleared up something for me. It is the inside measurement that counts not the outside. Light bulb moment‼
ginaquinn 1 month ago
Nice vid. Informative. Takes skill and patience.
newsblastsocialmedia 2 months ago
@newsblastsocialmedia
Thanks. I've gotten much better at this since the video was posted. I now measure the painting AFTER it has been stretched, rather than just the stretcher. The paintings actually fit inside my frames now.
theheadlessrabbit 2 months ago
thanks.Very useful. Btw, What was the result? did the painting fit in? :)
beubeu1664 3 months ago
@beubeu1664
The painting shown in the video did not fit. Luckily, I had another painting that was 1/4" smaller, so this frame was a perfect fit for that image.
theheadlessrabbit 3 months ago
the burping is the best part
ckokohotmailcom 3 months ago
I'm not sure if this sounds completely silly, but as far as getting the corners of each side to fit, is there anything in particular you have to do while cutting the pieces to make sure that the angle is correct?
lucesintheattic 3 months ago
Thanks! Hey, you said you got the belt clamp for about $12, where did you find it? (I've never seen one before.) You mentioned Princess Auto for first black and orange clamp, is that were you got the other clamp too?
abrightl 4 months ago
@abrightl
I got the other one at Canadian Tire. It was around $18
theheadlessrabbit 4 months ago
Nice. But I felt your pain at the end. Stuff happens!
ode2reading 5 months ago 2
great ending hilarious
pclubin 5 months ago
awesome video! am going to try this out! thanks!
winstontorr 5 months ago
arh i feel for you at the end, good job though im so gona try this x
bringinghappiness2u 6 months ago
This video was soooo helpful. Thanks for making it ... but OH MY GOD the ending is hilarious dude!!!!!!
jmpabon26 6 months ago 2
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marcellustone 6 months ago
Lol, great ending. That is the funniest thing I've seen in a while
amritsandhu 7 months ago
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anakasato 9 months ago
Hi,
Thanks for the video and nice artworks.
Can you tell me the name of the object you use to tie the frame (3:57) or do you know where to buy it online???
Thanks very much.
HBS.
HAPPYBEARSOLUTIONS 1 year ago
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Thanks for watching!
I think it's called a band clamp.
YouTube doesn't like links in messages, but if you google "Adjustable Band Frame Clamp" you should find a link to order one. I've seen them at princess auto and canadian tire.
I'm sure you can find them elsewhere.
theheadlessrabbit 1 year ago 2
Fantastic video, thanks.
DId you cut by hand or use a machine? The only "mitre" saws I have seen are quite large and expensive. I only have a tiny amount and space..and money to work with.
TheWhaler1 1 year ago
@TheWhaler1
these boards were cut by machine. I used a small, cheap chop saw with a 10" blade, (80 tooth w/ carbide tips. but 60-tooth is good enough if it's new)
For some reason, I'm never able to get a good, clean cut by hand, even with a miter-box
theheadlessrabbit 1 year ago
This video is brilliant. Simple yet informative. I love the ending. Even if you don't want to learn about framing, watch the whole thing just for that ending.
msmcguns 1 year ago
I was mezmorized by this video. I learned alot! The ending was hysterical!
sultrysyl 1 year ago 2
@sultrysyl
Thanks!
I ended up just making a new, slightly smaller painting to put in that frame.
theheadlessrabbit 1 year ago
That looks messy and hard. How much would it cost to get someone to do one like that for you? And how much did those materials cost you? How much did all the tools cost you?
danielhall67 1 year ago
@danielhall67
depending on the frame shop, hand made wood floats can range from $80-$200, or even higher. Machine-made float frames (usually plastic or plaster coated pine, bass, or even balsa wood) can be as low as $20, but lack durability.
Now that I already have the tools hardware, I only need to worry about the the cost of wood/varnish/paint/glue. For each frame this size, it is probably around $20 or so each. (this was made from leftover scraps from some bigger frames)
theheadlessrabbit 1 year ago
I like your idea. I'm a photographer, but I was a woodworker in a past life. I'd like to make a suggestion, it would entail adding another piece of equipment but I think it is essential to strengthen the bond between the two pieces. It's reasonably simple though, drill 3, 4 or 5 matching holes (dependent on length) along the mating surfaces. Make them the diameter of toothpicks. The toothpicks act as mini dowels. Switch to yellow wood glue, it causes the toothpick to expand tightening them.
lifesucksdeep 1 year ago
@lifesucksdeep
I'd like to make some of these to use for some pieces on 1/8" thick hardboard. Any suggestions on what to use to connect the hardboard to the frame for the final step. I know it's a really basic question but I've never tried anything like this before. Also, do you use these for your photographs?
ar4216 1 year ago
@ar4216
I've actually been working on a way to do this and have it look nice. I haven't figured it out just yet, but I'm playing with a table saw, cutting little grooves into the inside of the frame, sliding the hardboard inside, then gluing and clamping it all together. My saw blade is 1/8th thick, the perfect size for the board, but the problem is, if you ever want to disassemble it, some hardware must be visible, or a second frame must be built to go around this one.
theheadlessrabbit 1 year ago
@ar4216 I would suggest mounting the hardboard as if you were building a painting panel. Simple connect four mitered sides and glue the hardboard on top of this frame. From here, you can build the floater frame as usual and fasten it to the panel from the back. I would also suggest building the floater slightly larger than the painting. Not only does it look great with a "floating" gap between the work and the frame, but it will not risk being damaged as his painting is forced in in the video.
ringo45 1 year ago
all is well that ends almost well. oooh FFF....! nice work!
kupler 1 year ago
I enjoy your vidoes, not just for their instructional value, but for spirit in which you do them. They're fun, educational, and unpretentious.
useahammer 1 year ago
I have watched several videos on frame making and found this to be the simplest and easiest method. The ending was Funny,but still usefull.I will be sure not to make the same mistake now.Thankyou!
buriedmushroom 1 year ago
thank you.
I've gotten a bit better, and have refined the process a bit since posting this video.
apply the varnish very thinly with a sponge, not a brush like I used (not shown in this video)
Way easier to prevent drips with a sponge.
The strip of wood on the back can be pine, not poplar. (pine's cheaper)
Other than that, its only a matter of practice.
theheadlessrabbit 1 year ago
the ending was sooo EPIC!!!!
pepeduki008 2 years ago 2
I would love that people like u, who take their time to teach other on video, to prepare first and talk less so that you can improve the more without lost of time. Anyway thank you for teaching.
nicorap74 2 years ago
Thanks for watching.
If I speak too fast, I might be accused of trying to imitate the zero punctuation guy. ;)
This video was a little scattered and random, since it was unscripted, i was just talking as i went, then editing it down later. plus I was testing out some new audio gear, so I was more concerned with technical stuff than I was with content.
In my newer instructional videos, I try to be a little more organized. I plan things out before I shoot now, I hope it helps.
theheadlessrabbit 2 years ago
I don't believe that you didn't use a pigmented primer on top of that stain Kyle. Yes, I'm an artist too. Nice to know that you are as well. You, and I have alot of similar interests. Too bad I have a crappy camera to make videos! You forgot to allow 1/16-1/8 inch for a snug fit. F___ at the end, doesn't sound good, but it made me laugh. I love it dude. It shows that you aren't afraid to f*ck up even in front of how ever many people view this. Great video.
useahammer 2 years ago
Oh, I did, I just didn't show it in the video.
I stain the wood black before painting in black. I've had frames get chipped before the show, and that little fleck of wood showing through really pops out. the black stain under the paint hides any shipping damage nicely.
theheadlessrabbit 1 year ago
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useahammer 2 years ago
brilliant! this is why I buy mine instead of trying to build them! However, I'm sure you have made many that fit just right. They look real nice!
maswebvideo 2 years ago
I measured the frame to fit the stretcher bars with a 1/4" gap to spare. What I forgot to account for was the thickness of the canvas wrapped around that stretcher. I measured the wrong thing, but I learned an important lesson, so i guess it was worth it.
It was 1/8th of an inch to small. an 8th! i could have fixed that with more sanding!
Since posting this, I've made some smaller stretchers that do fit these frames.
theheadlessrabbit 2 years ago
great job! Not criticizing you at all, believe me, your light years ahead of my carpentry skills! Really enjoyed the end of your video as I never seen it coming.
Thanks for the tips!
maswebvideo 2 years ago
haha, thanks.
But I can't take all the credit for the skills needed to build this. It pays to have friends who work at a frame shop. it takes time, but its 50%-75% cheaper than buying them.
theheadlessrabbit 2 years ago
lololol end was great
djsproductions 2 years ago
the real annoying part: I built 4 frames, all of which are 2mm too small. 2mm!
I didn't account for the edges of the painting, where the canvas folds over itself twice.
While the stretcher fits inside the frame perfectly, when the canvas is over it, its just a tiny bit too big to fit inside the frame.
so, important lesson for next time:
measure the painting AFTER the canvas is on the stretcher, don't just measure the stretcher. it seems kinda obvious in hindsight.
theheadlessrabbit 2 years ago
awesome tutorial - thats some nice canvas work you have there too
again great video kyle thanks =]
garylewis91 2 years ago 2
Thank you.
I'm really excited about this series of work, and I can't wait to show it off in a gallery setting.
theheadlessrabbit 2 years ago
you look thiner then when i last saw you
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danielberrydaneil 2 years ago
Thanks!
I'm down to 206lbs.
I was 225lbs last year at this time, and 250lbs before leaving for Korea 2 years ago.
At this rate, I will hit 0lbs in 8 years. unless I totally missed something in my calculations...
theheadlessrabbit 2 years ago