Well its said in some quarters that the merger of Austin and Morris was a huge mistake. Okay hindsight is easy and what is really clear is that if Austin alone was allowed to go with Ford and Morris with GM it would have consolidated the skills of the British Engineers with a viable global operation. The car industry is important as it employs a lot of people and after housing ourselves the next biggest thing we spend out money on is some form of transport.
@kernals12 Sorry to correct you, the Morris Marina was never ever a replacement for the Morris Minor, the Marina was a replacement for the Farina range of cars, Morris Oxford, Austin A60 Cambridge, Wolseley 16/60 all finished production in 1971 [ Riley 4/68, MG Magnette IV, ceased production in 1969]
This is a common myth that is perpetuated by Wikipedia [and lazy journalists] The Morris Minor became simply absorbed into the other cars from British Leyland and never ever directly replaced.
@themaneatingchimp You are probabbly right, the thing is the way the Marina was just a square Minor. Minor suspension, trunnions and torsion, dangerous handeling. The gearbox couldn't take 1300cc never mind 1800cc, they were known for breaking the gearboxes and the prop-shafts. The engines were out of date too, long pushrods and a recessed combustion chamber. When you compare to an Avenger there is no competition.
@Paddy075 Thanks for the reply, in "A" series 1.3 form the engine wore pretty well (discontinued in 2000) but the "B" series1.8 was really on borrowed time even from the cars launch.
If the Marina had only been the stop gap it was first intended to be (5/6 years production at best) then perhaps the critics would have looked more kindly on the car, in truth it lasted to long the "O" series OHC engine didn't arrive untill 78, at least 2 years after the car was originally set to finish production.
@orlando318 If you look at other cars from other makers at the time, they weren't that outdated, they weren't even as badly made as everyone made out (apart from the Metro that rusted like hell)...
That Ambassador trunk makes quite a clunk when closing...! And the Ital in the end must be in the worst color in a car I've ever seen and doesn't help the old Ital one bit!! I didn't mind to have any of them though...!
People are quick to knock these cars, but having been there at the time, they DID sell. the streets were full of Metros, it was a genuinely desireable car at the time. it was a good few years before rusting became a major issue
@rendton What was good about the engines? The design was a bit outdated, considering it was basically the old Marina. The vinyl roof on some models was gastly. Why did they do that?
1982 was the last year of the TR7. The Ital was gastly. The MG Metro could have been fun if it didn't fall apart. The Acclaim was a nippy little number with its twin carb 1275cc Honda unit. The Maestro that came out a year later was a rust bucket. The turbo version was frightingly fast, but rusted like hell.
@supertrix101 I used to work in a Austin/Rover dealership in the early eighties, and i can honestly say the Triumph Acclaim was a very reliable small saloon...i liked them, and they sold well, it was what buyers wanted.
FAMILY CAR.
LUXURY CAR.
COME DOWN TO TERRY TIBBS AUTOCADE.
Doomsday2060 1 month ago
Isn't he in Emmerdale now?
sgb300 3 months ago
Well its said in some quarters that the merger of Austin and Morris was a huge mistake. Okay hindsight is easy and what is really clear is that if Austin alone was allowed to go with Ford and Morris with GM it would have consolidated the skills of the British Engineers with a viable global operation. The car industry is important as it employs a lot of people and after housing ourselves the next biggest thing we spend out money on is some form of transport.
Paddy075 4 months ago
here are all the bad car choices BL made
Morris Minor Replaced by Morris Marina
Austin 1100 Replaced by Austin Allegro
Jaguar E Type Replaced by Jaguar XJS
but the worst one was the one that thank god didn't happen
Mini almost replaced by Metro
kernals12 5 months ago
@kernals12 Sorry to correct you, the Morris Marina was never ever a replacement for the Morris Minor, the Marina was a replacement for the Farina range of cars, Morris Oxford, Austin A60 Cambridge, Wolseley 16/60 all finished production in 1971 [ Riley 4/68, MG Magnette IV, ceased production in 1969]
This is a common myth that is perpetuated by Wikipedia [and lazy journalists] The Morris Minor became simply absorbed into the other cars from British Leyland and never ever directly replaced.
themaneatingchimp 5 months ago
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@themaneatingchimp you get the point
kernals12 5 months ago
@themaneatingchimp You are probabbly right, the thing is the way the Marina was just a square Minor. Minor suspension, trunnions and torsion, dangerous handeling. The gearbox couldn't take 1300cc never mind 1800cc, they were known for breaking the gearboxes and the prop-shafts. The engines were out of date too, long pushrods and a recessed combustion chamber. When you compare to an Avenger there is no competition.
Paddy075 4 months ago
@Paddy075 Thanks for the reply, in "A" series 1.3 form the engine wore pretty well (discontinued in 2000) but the "B" series1.8 was really on borrowed time even from the cars launch.
If the Marina had only been the stop gap it was first intended to be (5/6 years production at best) then perhaps the critics would have looked more kindly on the car, in truth it lasted to long the "O" series OHC engine didn't arrive untill 78, at least 2 years after the car was originally set to finish production.
themaneatingchimp 4 months ago
@kernals12 You're right, BL really wanted to stop production of the mini as it was quite a difficult car to build compared to the metro
rich17279 5 months ago
@rich17279 and because they were idiots
kernals12 5 months ago
HE WAS IN THE SWEENEY
timpriddy73 5 months ago
That car showroom looks like a scrapyard now.
PGPyramid1 6 months ago
so ashamed i love the TR7. its a bit like saying your HIV positve after swingers do; when your a mechanic it makes you want to hide!!!!
MrDischargeandi 6 months ago
i love mini
linkinpark53236 6 months ago
BRILLIANT! quality British cars
radleytube 6 months ago
BRILLANT! quality British cars
radleytube 6 months ago
he never mentioned the lovely Morris Ital, I wonder why :)
vincelockyer 7 months ago
even then, the design looked hopelessly outdated......No wonder the british car industry is buried now......
orlando318 8 months ago
@orlando318 If you look at other cars from other makers at the time, they weren't that outdated, they weren't even as badly made as everyone made out (apart from the Metro that rusted like hell)...
discocreator76 7 months ago
These cars were a beauty we use to see them in every road in Malta and there are still some running.thanks for the upload.
joluqa 9 months ago
In their defence, Itals-although old fashioned- were dirt cheap at the time. a cortina sized car for basic escort money
mrspivvy 10 months ago
Does anyone else think the front of the Ambassador looks like the front of a Ford Escort Mk3?
kazimann 10 months ago
That Ambassador trunk makes quite a clunk when closing...! And the Ital in the end must be in the worst color in a car I've ever seen and doesn't help the old Ital one bit!! I didn't mind to have any of them though...!
vitorskoda 10 months ago
@vitorskoda they called it "mercury poisoning grey"
jemimallah 2 months ago
Great video thanks for uploading
horracewimp 11 months ago
People are quick to knock these cars, but having been there at the time, they DID sell. the streets were full of Metros, it was a genuinely desireable car at the time. it was a good few years before rusting became a major issue
mrspivvy 1 year ago
@rendton What was good about the engines? The design was a bit outdated, considering it was basically the old Marina. The vinyl roof on some models was gastly. Why did they do that?
1100HondaCB 1 year ago
1982 was the last year of the TR7. The Ital was gastly. The MG Metro could have been fun if it didn't fall apart. The Acclaim was a nippy little number with its twin carb 1275cc Honda unit. The Maestro that came out a year later was a rust bucket. The turbo version was frightingly fast, but rusted like hell.
1100HondaCB 1 year ago
Rodney Blackstock advertising Austin cars wow!
meowthx1985 1 year ago
it looked like that triumph acclaim red (honda ballade) was going to crash into that beige metro before they cut that scene.
jaggass 1 year ago 10
@jaggass With the quality of the breaks I don´t think so :)
drc911 4 months ago
lol the ital disgusting
BillznDealz 1 year ago
NICE !!!!!!!!
carzmine9 1 year ago
Rodney Blackstock flogged British Leyland cars for years did he....
RetroCool73 1 year ago
The Triumph Acclaim was the only decent car in this, mainly because it was a Honda Ballade.
kazimann 1 year ago
Wasen't the Triumph Acclaim the only relaible British Leyland car of the 80s?
LaugermanPROductions 1 year ago
@LaugermanPROductions
And the Honda engined Rover 213, light years ahead of anything else they made, although the Rover V8 was tempting if you had the cash.
Glenn1967ful 1 year ago
@LaugermanPROductions Yes, I think so. My dad had one and it was a superb car, but not particularly attractive to look at, but was good fun to drive.
1100HondaCB 1 year ago
Patrick Mower?
thesupahfly 2 years ago
Sadly yes!
darrowby1972 2 years ago
im proud to own 2 Austin Rover cars at the moment, the Ambassador & an MG Montego :) fab cars i love them!
PatrickIngham21 2 years ago 2
The dressed up SD1 at the end was no gimmick - they were regularly used as touring cars on European racetracks in the 80s...
joh2 2 years ago 6
hahaha, the 'acclaim' is just a rebadged Honda. I did not know this...
bajabusta 2 years ago 2
@bajabusta But at least it was reliable, perhaps it should have been sold as a Morris or an Austin
supertrix101 11 months ago
@supertrix101 I used to work in a Austin/Rover dealership in the early eighties, and i can honestly say the Triumph Acclaim was a very reliable small saloon...i liked them, and they sold well, it was what buyers wanted.
GRAHAM5020 11 months ago
@bajabusta Yeah, but no doubt the most reliable 'Triumph' ever made!
kazimann 10 months ago
@kazimann the Triumph Acclaim wasn't a real Triumph. The best Triumph was the Mark 2 2000/2500TC I jnow I had several!
uzzle65 9 months ago