Ahmadiyya - Messiah & Mahdi Has Come {Part-2} [English]

[barnzy2302]

So just because everyone says ur completely wrong then that makes you right??? how MESSED UP is your logic??? also why do u just sing songs in urdu

[dawah2]

barnzy2302: It is NOT so. Rather it was our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who gave the VERDICT that "ALL THE 73 SECTS WILL BE HELL BOUND EXCEPT ONE"

[barnzy2302]

Yes i am completely aware of that. My point is just because u go so far away from the truth that the whole ummah clearly aware of it doesnt mean its the truth. According to ur idea -What about osama bin ladens philosophy? The whole world condemns him, maybe this is the true sect. If i come and say i am the mehdi and isa, the whole ummah will say i am either crazy or a liar. I will be distinct outside of islam - DOESNT MAKE ME RIGHT< UR ARGUMENT DOESNT HOLD UP

[dawah2]

barnzy2302: 72 sects on the wrong side while only one on the right side is NOT the ONLY ONE sign of Truth of Jamat Ahmadiyya. Rather there are many signs of the truth of Islam-Ahmadiyya as presented in this documentary.

The one who was to come as Messiah has come. Those who have rejected & under Allah's wrath & facing disaster after disasters.

May Allah open the eyes of Muslims so that they realize the Messiah sent by Allah & come out of Allah's wrath.

[TheSaffyone]

What they just did is making one more sect.

I totally agree you, their arguement is very weak.

Christ is the son of marry, till he comes any one before him will be a dajjal

[dawah2]

@TheSaffyone : When Previous Messiah (Jesus) came then 72 sects of Jews also use 2 allege him that he is further dividing Jews. But it was Messiah sent by Allah who united the people of 72 sects of Jews slowly & gradually - as people from 72 sects continue to believe in him.

Prophet (saw) had given a Clear VERDICT that "Things are surely going to happen to my ummah as it earlier happen to Israelite" {Tirmadhi}. So, similar is happening that people from around the world are accepting & uniting

[dawah2]

@TheSaffyone : Brother, remember that Jews also rejected (& r rejecting) Jesus as their Messiah because as per their understanding of Prophecies Elijah (an old Prophet) was to return in literal sense. PROOF {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}

Jews also rejected Jesus' interpretation that Once gone from this world people NEVER Return rather others come under their name & title.

[TheSaffyone]

@dawah2 Brother, I am open mind. Convince me that Christ came. Provide me sources in Arabic as Arabic is my first language. As well as provide me with sources in English.

What new have you got to provide?

[dawah2]

@TheSaffyone : Brother, If you have watched this documentary then surely you have noticed that even non-Ahmadi Scholars are accepting that All the Sings of Mahdi have been fulfilled. If you really want to know about Islm-Ahmadiyya's arguments about coming of Promised Messiah & about Jesus' (as) surviving crucifixion & his migration to Kashmir where he died like all other human - please visit islamahmadiyya [dot] [net] {Our Arabic website}. Where u can watch our 24 hrs Arabic TV as well.

[iahmedghuman]

@barnzy2302: USAMA is condemned by the whole WORLD but not 72 Sects.. All 72 Sects rather call him HERO of ISLAM. And if you come and say you are Mehdi and actually you are not, then ALLAH will take action against you and will kill you and make you the sign for others. No false or fake Jamat, who claim to be ALLAH's Jamat can survive and spread like Jamat Ahmadiyya

[StudentofKnowledge99]

Some1 has to be really lost if they believe all of this nonsense....this ahmed qadian or whatever is dead so how can he be the messiah and mahdi? In addition, Allah states in the Quran that the sign of the Sun rising from the west in the ulthimate sign of the end....well, im not astronomer but that hasnt happened yet...common sense will tell u that this whole cult of ahmadiyyah is a farse

[dawah2]

StudentofKnowledge99 : Oh I SEE!! Human Bodily flying-up to Allah & living there without taking FOOD for thousand of years is Absolutely Rational - while saying that Jesus was merely a Prophet & a Human & that he has died like all other humans is nonsense.

A Typical Mullahs LOGIC!!

[sphinxak]

this video is completely incorrect....first of all...ahmadiyyas are not the only sect that all the others dissaprove of...there is also the bahaiis with there supposed mahdi and the druze which also are dissaproved of....secondly once the mahdi and 3Isa (AS) are here then all the muslims will once agai n unite to see the truth and we will be under one ummah one islam therefore no more sects....so this also proves the claim of your FALSE prophet WRONG!!! WAKE UP!!!!

[dawah2]

1) NO ONE can present even a single person who ever claimed 2 b BOTH Messiah & Mahdi according 2 Ahadith saying "there will be No Mahdi EXCEPT Issa". Thus Islam-Ahmadiyya is Unique & only t is the one who has been unanimously declared separate & distinguished from the rest of 72 sects by even the Govt. NO such other example can b presented

2) Watch Jews r also taking prophecies literally & r waiting for Messiah who will the unite Jews & win entire world for them {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}

[sphinxak]

this video is wrong....baha'is and durzes are also singled out as being blasphamies...especially ahmadiyyas.. so ahmadiyyas are not really singled out at all as the one true sect.....your ahmad is a false prophet who sold out to the british....anyway if you understand what that hadith said about the only "sect" that will be accepted is the one that Prophet (SAW) himself lived by...and i dont know about you guys he was a MUSLIM...not a sunni or a shia or a sufi or a salafi any other sect....

[dawah2]

sphinxak: 1) First of all be know that Bahai is a separate religion as they claim themselves. So don't compare it Islam-Ahmadiyya which is revival of Faith through Allah by sending the Messiah & Mahdi.

2) Prophet Muhammad (saw) was not Muslim in NAME only. Don't u know that he (saw) said that "A time will come when ISLAM will b in NAME ONLY". One has to be Muslim in character & spirit & NOT MERELY IN NAME. The Prophet had termed the 72 hell-bound sects as MUSLIM by name.

[sphinxak]

brother...please get your facts right....Bahaiis believe the same the thing that you do..that baha2 allah was the mahdi...i know many baha2iien here in Egypt and they fight for the right to be recognised as muslims....not one of them claims to be a different religion....

secondly in regards to the mahdi after he arrives and the messiah come to clear the air on the correct way of life ISLAM everyone should be muslim by now the one true "sect" of islam....as u can see its not the case....

[dawah2]

sphinxak: Please correct your facts!

I challenge you to present even a single quote from Baha-ullah's own book that he ever claimed

1) To be appointed one by Allah for the guidance of mankind

2) He is MAHDI appointed by Allah

Whenever, Allah send someone then things changed but slowly & gradually and not at once. What happened when Jesus came as Messiah?

It took 300 years for his followers to become considerable in the world.

[sphinxak]

and u definatley cant count out the nation of islam....who also claim the elijah mohamed is also the mahdi....oh n how about the submitters who claim that rashad khalifa is the mahdi and a messenger of Allah....and they also are "singled" out for blasphemy....

[dawah2]

sphinxak: Visit Bahai's own official website. They claim to be a separate Religion & NOT A PART OF ISLAM.

I challenge u to present Elijah's own claim that "He is appointed by Allah as Mahdi or Messiah". Remember u can NEVER.

Yes. Rashid Khalifa claimed to be Messenger & thus according to Al-Quran 69:44-47 he was killed.

[AfghDude]

Dont dare to take anything from the Quran.

You guys are worse then the people of the book.

I cant take any of your vids serious any more.

[dawah2]

AfghDude: Why we cannot use Quran? Is it your personal Property or the property of Mullahs belonging to 72 hell-bound sects?

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Br. what about Hadhrat Ayesha (ra)? Who also interpreted the term Khatam as Ahmadi Muslims do? And what about Mujadid Alif Sani who did the same? And What about Abdul Wahab Sherani? And what about many other saints & great scholars of Islam? Will u expel them all out of Islam?

[ahmd5]

get names of companions who say that there will another prophet beside Issa. Gulam ahmed did not fulfill the literal prophecy, even you admitted to that.

[dawah2]

Hadhrat Ahmad has claimed 2 b that Jesus & Messiah about whom the Prophet (saw) had told the ummah.

Hadhrat Ahmad (as) did fulfilled many prophecies literally & many in allegorical sense. It is Quran who tells us that Allah tells about future in both ways - i.e literal & allegorical. It is not too difficult to distinguish the literal from the allegorical. Because allegorical prophecies when taken literal create contradictions from other prophecies as well as from established laws of nature.

[dawah2]

ahmd5 : Why it is NOT authentic? Because it doesn't suit some Mullahs who are dreaming about someone to come flying from sky like Children fairy tales!!

[ahmd5]

I watched all parts of This documentary. It does not offer any proof that Ghulam Ahmed is the Massaiah. It does not Offer any proof from Quran or Hadeeth to support his claims. If there was a Prophet to come after Mohammed than Prophet Muhammed would have told us. It truely misguides people who lack knowledge in Arabic language

Any claims such as these ones should be verified by Quran, The Quran instruct us to follow Prophet Muhammed so why should we follow Gulam Ahmed.

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Quran clearly tells about Subordinate Prophet to in 4:69. Then it orders us to believe in such future Apostle - thus it says "O ye Children of Adam! whenever there come to you apostles from amongst you, rehearsing My signs unto you,- those who are righteous and mend (their lives),- on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve." 7:35

There r 72 sects claiming to be following the Prophet Muhammad (saw) but can u tell me which one is true in its claim?

[ahmd5]

This Hadeeth is very clear that you should NOT add any new requirement to the religion. You should live by the same principles as the Prophet and his Companions. You should understand the Quran the same way they did to be accpeted by God. You are not required to believe in anything more or any thing less. If you do either you are misguided and this should be a warning sign

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Is it not right that 72 out of 73 sects were to become hell-bound? Is it not right that Islam was to remain in name ONLY. is it Not true that Messiah & Mahdi was to come to revive the Faith?

[ahmd5]

It is true that Messiah & Mahdi was to come to revive the Faith. But Non would change the law. Ghulam Ahmed denys fighting against the British and claimed a prophet status when there lots of Hadeeth that are clear saying there is no prophet after Muhammed.

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Br, the Prophet (saw) had foretold 1,400 years ago that Allah will ORDER Messiah 2 come NOT 2 FIGHT with the Great powers of his time through his revelation. So how could a True Messiah would have acted against this clear revelation of Allah? Is this NOT reported in Sahaih Muslim book 41 Hadith # 7015 that "Allah would reveal to Jesus these words: I have brought forth from amongst My servants such people against whom none would be able to fight; you take these people safely to Tur,.."

[ahmd5]

Ok so did the Gulam Ahmed fulfill this prophecy. There are so many prophecies with the upcoming Massieh that Gulam Ahmed does NOT even come close to fulfill. It is unfortunate that you reject these Ahadeeth.

There is no clear evidence that Gulam Ahmed has any divine inspiration, yet you put his word against The prophets Haddeth. The Masseh PUH will fight and kill the Dajjal, so to say he is not going fight is NOT true.

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Br. Hadhrat Ahmad (as) has fulfilled all the Prophecies of our beloved Prophet (saw) regarding Promised Messiah. Messiah was to fight & kill but through prayers & arguments not with sword. Because the Hadith of Sahaih Muslim tells us that Allah will send revelation towards the Messiah to come saying NOT TO FIGHT RATHER TAKE BELIEVERS TO TUR & pray.

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Brother, if Jesus to come was to FIGHT then NOT only Hadith of Muslim (Book 41 # 7015) becomes False but also the revelation of Allah mentioned in that Hadith also becomes FALSE. Because it says "Allah would reveal to Jesus these words: I have brought forth from amongst My servants such people against whom none would be able to fight; you take these people safely to Tur, " Muslim Book 41 # 7015

[ahmd5]

I have Muslim Book in front of me. It clearly say Issa Bin Maryam (Jesus Son Of Mary.). Not any Issa not Ahmed not any one else. Another Hadeeth It clearly says That Issa will KILL the Daggal and he will kill every non believer within his sight. another hadeeth in the same book says he will rule for 7 years and he will a very pious ruler. in another Hadeeth it says that Jesus will descend onto A FIGHTING group of muslims.

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Brother, In Sahaih Bukhari the Prophet (saw) has clearly said that the Issa whom he met in Miraj with all the passed away Prophet has a different appearance than the issa who was to descend during later days. Then Prophet (saw) further confirmed that the Issa to come will be no other than Mahdi a follower who was to born in the ummah. We have to see the Ahadith collectively in order to recognize the True Issa who was to come from the followers.

[ahmd5]

part II

Non of these prophacies were fulfilled by Gulam Ahmed. Why do keep referring to Saheeh Muslim Book when you ignore all these? Can you read Arabic? In the Hadeeth you quoted God is saying to Jesus that these people are too powerful, you won't be able to defeat them, that is all. God did not say "don't ever fight"

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Brother have a fear of Allah. Do you mean that despite Allah sending revelation that "I have brought forth from amongst My servants such people against whom none would be able to fight; you take these people safely to Tur, " The Jesus to come still be fight against them?

Even in Sahaih Bukhari the Prophet (saw) had further clarified that Jesus to come will cease wars (Yazaul Harb).

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Certainly, there are many Ahadith which says that "There will be NO Prophet after me". But at the same time there are many Ahadith which clearly term the Messiah to come as "Prophet of Allah". The Hadith of Sahaih Muslim (book 41 # 7015) which tells us that Allah will send revelation towards the True Messiah NOT to fight against the powers of his time also tells us that Prophet (saw) had referred him (i.e the Messiah to come) as Prophet of Allah NOT ONCE BUT 4 TIMES!

[dawah2]

Br. Promised Messiah, Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian has not come to add anything to Islam. rather he has come to remove additions already made by the Mullahs belonging to 72 sects.

[ahmd5]

If he is adding nothing new than why should I follow him??

I would follow Prophet Muhammad. Did Qadyan receive Holy Ghost, Gabrial from God.

The danger of Qadyan that he removed lots of Islam teaching esp. Kihad against the british.

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Br, The Messiah & Mahdi has come JUST to revive the True spirit of Islam at the time when it has divided into 72 sects & has become a symbol of terrorism in the world.

If he is true & IF HE IS APPOINTED by Allah then one must have to follow him. Because whoever will follow the appointed one by Allah will himself be benefited.

[ahmd5]

How can you proof that he was appointed by Allah? He lived and died without solving any of our problems. If you can show me a single proof we would not have any problem.

I can point to you many of Prophet Mohamed's miracles.

[dawah2]

The criteria of True appointed one by Allah is given in Quran & v should verify any clam on that basis.

1: Quran as well as Logic tells us that ONLY True Prophets r survived & their movement flourished otherwise False claimants r destroyed. 69:44-47 etc

2: Quran present's earlier pious life of true claimants as a proof of their truth

Both above criteria are fulfilled Because despite sever opposition ahmadiyya movement has spread over the globe & even opponents admit Piousness of claimant

[ahmd5]

At the beginning of the Sura, it talks about story of Adam and than it address his children. This specific aya 7:35 talks about Prophits who come after Adam not after Mohammed. It is very clear if you read the text from the begging.

In the Quran the Future tense is used sometimes to refer to events in the past. There are plenty of this in the Quran for example look at 10:91, in the Arabic Text of the Quran speaks in the FUTURE TENSE that God saved Pharo's body to serve as a a sign

[dawah2]

ahmd5 : 7:35 address all children of Adam. it clearly says that Whenever apostles come among you then whoever going to reject will be in fire. 4:69 of Holy Quran clarifies that Subordinate Prophets can come. This belief is common among great Muslim scholars. Ibn-e-Arabi & Mujadid Alif sani had clearly written that Prophet-hood with new teaching has FINISHED & not just the Prophet-hood.

[dawah2]

Br. are we included in the children of Adam or NOT?

There is a reason of FUTURE TENSE in 10:91. Because Allah saved & was to continue to save the body of Pharo as a sign.

[ahmd5]

and past tense used for the future.

5:116 when God address Prophet Issa "and GOD SAID to Issa" This indecent will occur in the day of Judgment which is in the future. The Quran did not use the Future tense "and God will say to Issa" but the Quran used the PAST TENSE for something that will happen in the future.

There are plenty of example and these are liguistic styles.

The key "did the prophet and companion explained this as a sign of a prophet to come in the fututre" the Answer is NO

[ahmd5]

I found more examples of past events and actions reported in future tense. 21:73 Prior to this God talked about the story of Ibrahim in past tense and then he mentioned Lott, Jacob and Ishaq also in past tense, suddenly he says that he made them Imams that Guide people in future tense.

21:78 David and Solomon judge "future tense", 21:79 The mountains glorifying god with David in future tense 21:81 Solomon ordering the wind mentioned also in future tense, 21:82 Shaytan serves Solomon.

[dawah2]

Ibn-e-Arabi wrote a) "That prophethood which ended with the advent of the Prophet (pbuh), is only law-bearing prophethood and not the status of prophethood. Thus now there will be no law that cancels the law of the Prophet (pbuh) or that adds to its commandments" (Fatoohaati Makkiyyah, vol. 2, p. 3)

[ahmd5]

In these example Godis talking about these events in future tense. It is ridiculous to say that these events will happen because it is mentioned in future tense.

We have to understand article of faith in a manner that is consistent with the prophet and his companions, Who all recognized the Messiah as Issa, and No more prophets. You have to show me that the companions understood 7:35 as evidence of a future prophet. It wasn't until the 19th century when Gulam Ahmed came with this wild idea.

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Br. you are ABSOLUTELY WRONG. Read what companions & Great scholars use to say about this issue:

1: Hadhrat Syesha (ra) Said "Say he is 'seal of prophets' but do NOT say 'there is no prophet after him' " (Takmilah Majma'ul Bihaar, p. 85)

2: Imam Raghib said "Prophethood is of two kinds, general and special. The special prophethood, viz: the law-bearing prophethood is now unattainable; but the general prophethood continues to be attainable." (Bahr al Muheet, vol. 3, p. 28)

Cont'd..

[ahmd5]

who is Hadhrat Syesha? who is Imam Ragib? I don't know them if you kindly give me a link to them so I can read about them,

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Sorry, for typo error. I meant Hadhrat Ayesha (ra). Imam Raghib was one of the great imams of the past. You can search him on the internet.

[ahmd5]

Ayhah umm Almomenin never said that there will be a prophet after Prophet Muhammad. It is true that Prophet Muhammad is the best prophet, no one will argue that so this not a point of debate.

You agreedthat the there are ahadeeth "No prophet after me". where did the comapnion say there will be a prophet after Muhammad. We should believe in the same way that the Prophet and the companions had to believe. they did not believe in Gulam Ahmed and Muslims should NOT believe in Gulam Ahmed also.

[dawah2]

ahmd5: Brother, the Prophet (saw) who said that THERE WILL BE NO PROPHET AFTER ME ALSO SAID THAT THERE WILL BE NO PROPHET BETWEEN ME & ISSA & SOON YOU WIlL MEET HIM".

So, Brother, we believe in the one who has come as Jesus & no one else.

There is a clear saying of Hadhrat Ayesha (ra) that "Say He is Khamataman-Nabiyeen but do not say that there will be NO prophet after him". Certainly she said that keeping in mind that the Jesus to come will have to be a Prophet.

[ahmd5]

So you agree that There will be no prophet between Muhammad and Issa. You claim that Ahmad gulam is Issa. Issa is a name which totally different than Gulam Ahmed so How could he have fulfilled that !!

Can't you see this simple logical problem you are facing? Don't you see why Muslims can never get pass that problem. Why didn't prophet Muhamed say, His name will be Gulam? Do you think that prophet Muhamed lied to us? or did not know? or God mislead him or us? Why give us wrong information

[dawah2]

Prophet (saw) clearly told that Jesus whom he saw during Miraj with all the passed away prophets is a different from Jesus who was 2 come in future. Because in Bukhari he (saw) clearly told appearance of 2 Jesus differently.

Matters of faith r test for people & thus prophecies never told future events as 2+2=4.

Jews were also told about return of Elijah but did Elijah returned in person or John came under his name? Were Prophet (saw) not warned Muslims about repeating mistakes of Jews?

[dawah2]

3: Ibn-e-Arabi wrote a) "That prophethood which ended with the advent of the Prophet (pbuh), is only law-bearing prophethood and not the status of prophethood. Thus now there will be no law that cancels the law of the Prophet (pbuh) or that adds to its commandments" (Fatoohaati Makkiyyah, vol. 2, p. 3)

b) "Jesus, may peace be upon him, will descend upon us as a Hakam, without a law and will be a prophet without any doubt."

(Fatoohati Makkiyyah, vol. 1, p. 570)

4:

[ahmd5]

Ibn Arabi is a well known figure born in 560, his views are not accpeted by Main streem islam.

I dpn't have a problem with Jesus descending on us. This is totally aceptable by me. my problem with any one (not only Ghlam Ahmed) else cliaming to be a prophet.

[itcrowdfan92]

hadeeth inform us about mahdi:

He will be tall

He will be fair complexioned

His facial features will be similar to those of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam

His character will be exactly like Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam

His father's name will be Abdullah

His mother's name will be Aamina

He will speak with a slight stutter + sometimes this stutter will frustrate him causing him to hit his hand upon his thigh.

He will be 40 when he emerges

He will receive Knowledge from Allah.

[dawah2]

itcrowdfan92 : Quran tells us that Allah tells about future events to His servants usually through Dreams & Visions & that these dreams & visions cannot be taken literally rather they had to be interpreted.

As shown in this video, even the non-ahmadi Scholars r compelled to admit that All the signs of Mahdi has been fulfilled.

As far as Names of Mahdi & His father etc. r concerned then watch what Mullahs did with a Mahdi fulfilling all these signs in literal sense {watch?v=yD0ZUeMHKU8}

[ahmd5]

The Mehdi is mentioned in various hadeeths. His name is Mohamed Bin Abdullah and he is descendant from Imam Hasan the prophet grand son. He will be chosen by the people in Mecca among other signs. Gulam Ahmed does not fulfill these signs.

I watched this video you listed. If event of 1400 was not Al mehdi. To bigen with he is Qahtani which is a very big trib that has nothing to do with Quraish like that video is suggesting and he is not descendant of Imam Hasan

[dawah2]

ahmd5 : Dear, Quran tells us that Allah usually informs about future events through Dreams & visions & that these Dreams & visions needs interpretation & doesn't fulfill in literal sense. Watch why Jews r still rejecting Jesus (as)? at {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}. U will realize that they r doing exactly the same thing i.e taking prophecies too literal.

Prophet (saw) had warned that 72 out of 73 sects of Muslims r going to repeat the mistakes of Jews. Isn't it?

[ahmd5]

The Holy Quran 53:3 "Nor does he speak of (his own) desire." every thing that the prophet has said is literal sense. Do you take what Gulam Ahmed says in a literal meaning. How about you civil law, If you don't take that literally you come across disorder.

The prophet companions believed what the profit used to say literally. after all that what faith is. Now you know the way of the companion, it is the literal words of the Quran and the Prophet. If you take them that way you'll be saved.

[dawah2]

ahmd5 : Quran says that "Your spouse are your garments". Will you take it as literal as well? Because it is saying of Allah?

Quran itself tells us that it contain two types of verses - ONE Firm other allegorical. Similarly, many news about future events told by Prophet (saw) based on his True Dreams & visions are allegorical. Taking them literal make them against the established Laws of Allah as well as ridiculous.

[ahmd5]

who's dreams are we gonna follow? A dream could also come from Satan.

brother, When there is a clear cut Quran and Hadeeth you don't follow a dream. You follow the clear instruction from the prophet. a dream might give guidance to single person but not to dictate for the entire nation. Allah won't punish me because Gulam Ahmed or you saw a dream.

[dawah2]

ahmd5 : Many Ahadith about Dajjal & future events are based on Dreams & visions of the Prophet (saw). Quran tells us that such dreams are to be interpreted & do not fulfill in literal sense.

HOPE NOW U UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT I MEANT ABOUT DREAMS.

[IQ233]

Dawah2, if you are really being Truthful, why Do you Keep Blocking my comments??

[dawah2]

IQ233: Brother, these so-called Muslims belonging to 72 sects are of so high character that they use such filthy and abusive language that cannot be allowed to appear directly. Thus, I have to first read the comments & allow them. This takes time. Otherwise. NO comment - no matter how harsh it may be is deleted. Only abusive & filthy comments are NOT allowed.

[Haji78692]

when hazarat isa arrives, at that time he will pray behind hazarat mehndi. so does this mean hazarat isa and hazarat mehndi came few years ago and left without the muslim ummah knowing.ummmmm NO!! so the truth is that they are still to come. and the leader who claimed to be the final prophet (the leader of qadiyani) was a total fake and the fact is he died in a toilet (that is the death of a kafir that claims to be a prophet or a god) may allah safe the sunni jammat of islam, the true and one.

[dawah2]

Haji78692 : There is another Hadith in Sahaih Muslim which says that "On descend, Jesus will lead the prayers while Imam Mahdi will offer prayers behind him". Then as per Ibn-e-Maja the Prophet said that " There will be NO MAHDI EXCEPT ESSA".

Brother why 2 accept ONLY one Hadith while reject many others?

Regarding Mullahs FALSE allegation about the Death of Promised Messiah, I say nothing except in Allah's words that "Alas for My servants, there come not a Messenger 2 them but they MOCK AT HIM"

[ahmd5]

" There will be NO MAHDI EXCEPT ESSA".

"very week"

Shaikh Nasser Uddein Al-Albani comment on this hadeeth, Very week

look at

"Dhaeef Sonan ibn Majah" first edition 1988-1408

Hadeth number 4039-785 page 325

[dawah2]

ahmd5: What about the Hadith saying "Very Soon you are going to meet Issa as IMAM MAHDI" Ref: Musnad-e-Ahmad

[RealAhmadiyyat]

This is All True Mashallah.

(Ahmadiyyat Zindabaad)

[bomber1986]

Ok, they did and reject him as the messiah. But the mahdi and the 2nd coming are literally at armagadon..where is it? Also, the Jews rejected Jesus although he did numerous miracles but they still stubornly rejected him. U still didnt answer my question, what Did Mirza Goulam do? what did he achieve that is so great and worthy of him being entitled as messisah or mahdi?

[dawah2]

Type "Rejection of Messiah - By Jews:By Muslims" at youtube search & Watch the video on the top of the list - you will get answers to all of your questions.

[Clausen554]

bomber1986, being messiah does not mean coming right at the throes of end times. Ahmadis don't believe that a messiah is supposed to come "literally at Armageddon." A messiah comes at a time in which both, a people have splintered from the original doctrine, and the prophesied time. According to hadith, the Promissed Messiah (AS) came right at the prophesied time AND the Muslim world was in disarray. Now that does not mean that overnight people will come around. Did they for Jesus (AS)?

[bomber1986]

Ok, the mahdi and the 2nd coming of Christ is supposed to get rid the world of injustice and bring all the world to accepting Islam. Also, it is at the end of times(Judgment day)....none of these happened,and we passed 200 yrs already. I mean, what did Ahmad Ghulam do on the ground, to mankind, to be deserving of those titles?

[dawah2]

bomber1986: Watch the video "Rejection of Messiah - By Jews:By Muslims" & u will b amazed to see that Jews r also raising exactly same objections against Jesus (as) - the previous Messiah! Jews also took the prophecies too literally & when saw that those did not fulfilled rejected Jesus (as) as Messiah. Same was to happen with Muslims. Because Prophet (saw) had said that Muslims r going to repeat exactly same mistakes as Jews did (i.e. They will attain exact resemblance to Israelite).

[everyoneonfire21]

I disagree, the Quran if you read says Mohammed PBUH is the final messenger

[dawah2]

everyoneonfire21 : Quran says that "Muhammad (saw) is the SEAL of the Prophets". Can you quote a single verse of Quran that says that "No Prophet (even subordinate) can come after him?"

[bomber1986]

The SEAl of prophets...which means, he is the final prophet.END OF STORY!

[dawah2]

bomber1986 : Then how Prophet Jesus will return without breaking this seal?

[bomber1986]

That would be at arrmagadon....its his second coming. He cant be considered as the final Prophet or the seal b/c he already came before.

[dawah2]

bomber1986: Who will then be Last Prophet coming to his world?

[brucelee2000]

Isa (AS) does not come back as a Prophet.

[dawah2]

brucelee2000: Dear, once gone from this world people NEVER return. Look at the Jews, they are also waiting for Elijah 2 return. But despite more than 2,000 years he didn't. Jews even rejected Jesus because Elijah did not returned. For proof watch {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}. The Prophet (saw) had warned that the things are destined to repeat in Muslims as it happened to Israelite. Thus u people r committing exactly same mistake as Jews did in taking prophecy of coming of an old prophet literally.

[dawah2]

bomber1986 : And Joseph, indeed, came to you before with clear proofs, but you ceased not to be in doubt concerning that which he came to you till, when he died, you said, `ALLAH will never raise a Messenger after him.' Thus does ALLAH adjudge as having gone astray every transgressor, doubter " Al-Quran 40:34

[brucelee2000]

Well im sorry but I'm not mistaken. It says clearly in hadiths that Isa (AS) will return to kill the Dajjal. Hadith: "The Last Hour will not come until you see the descent of Isa (as) son of Maryam (as)." Muslim

Hadith: "The Hour will not be established until the son of Maryam (as) (i.e. Isa (as)) descends amongst you as a just ruler."

Bukhari. What is there to misunderstand.

[dawah2]

brucelee2000: Why are you ignoring following Ahadiths

1) There will be NO Mahdi except Essa (Ibne Majah)

2) The Prophet (saw) mentioned TWO DIFFERENT appearances of the two Messiahs. i.e. The Messiah whom he (saw) saw among all passed away Prophets & the one who was to come in future

3) Essa (as) died at the age of 120 years (Kanzul-Aamal)

4) The Prophet (saw) said that "If Moses & Jesus would HAVE ALIVE then they had to follow me" (Tafseer Ibne Kaseer)

[dawah2]

brucelee2000: We believe the Ahadith you mentioned and reconcile them with others to remove contradiction. While your Molvis overemphasize on some Ahadith while reject the others. So, who follow Muhammad (saw) more?

In Sahaih Muslim the Prophet (saw) had clearly indicated that prophecies regarding Jesus to come r metaphoric by attributing two different acts towards him on his decent. a) He will offer prayer behind Mahdi b) He will lead the prayers & Mahdi will offer prayers behind him

[dawah2]

brucelee2000: Bible clearly mentioned that Elijah will return before advent of Messiah. When Jesus claimed 2 b Messiah then same point was raised before him. Do you know that he did not say that this prophecy is wrong. Rather he gave the verdict that Once gone, no 1 return. Elijah did appear but NOT Physically rather in the person of John. But Jews did not accepted his interpretation & rejected him as Messiah. Same was 2 happen among Muslims according to the Hadith telling about resemblance

[makhawaja]

Dear Readers,Muslims (other than Ahmadi Muslims) has become jews-like and gone ashtray from the true preaching of Islam and its Messenger (pbuh). They fight with each other but when they oppose Ahmadis, they oppose together.They fulfill the prophesy of Mohammad(pbuh)with their own action that they are liars and they are trying to suppress innocent Ahmadi Muslims. Shame upon their Ulemas who don't teach them manners and shame to their mothers who have borne such extremist and shameless broods.

[islamiminaar]

mr. giant said "qadian was a liar"

^^ mashaAllah, who was qadian?

[filistin4life]

Ahmadis are not Muslims, the Quran clearly says that MUHAMMED is the last prophet, so ACCEPT ISLAM or you will stay misguided.

[cosmic4peace]

it is also stated that a misiah will come in the last days!, are you by this statment denying this comming of missiah? that is recorded in the traditions!

[giant24us]

Qadian was a liar.

[dawah2]

giant24us: The Jews says the same about Jesus. The Prophet (saw) had foretold that a time will come when the 72 sects of Muslims will attain exact resemblance to the 72 sects of Jews. So be happy to follow the footsteps of your forefathers!!!

[giant24us]

There's one difference. Jesus PBUH was a prophet.  You claim to be Muslim, but you deny the finality of the Prophethood of Muhammad PBUH. If you deny it, you are not a Muslim. If you wanna be qadiani, go ahead, but don't claim to be Muslim.

[dawah2]

giant24us: We Ahmadi Muslim believes in Finality of Prophet-hood of Muhammad (saw). We believe Hadhrat Ahmad to be the same Messiah who was to come as a subordinate Prophet according to the sayings of the Prophet himself.