Yes they static, they are suboscillators what do you expected? :-) You know any (non modular) synthesizer with suboscillator with full blown OSC functionality?
In your point of view, wavetable OSC in Q aren't true wavetable OSC. Why? because Q lacks in "startwave" or antialiasing function. What you think?
You don´t have any clue. A PPG plus some reverb or delay on stage is not to compare with any other synth. It cuts through the band like butter - I love it.
Blofeld is your best bet. Q has only 2 wavetables with a special mixture of waveforms in them, while Blofeld has about 70-ish wavetables, including those from PPG, Wave, Microwave, XT and Q.
Waldorf Q has 3 oscillators and 2 of them can be switch to wavetable oscillators. Each of them (wavetable oscillators) has 128 waves so you got 128 x 2=256 waves. More, each of wavetable oscillators can have sub oscillator, which can be detune or pitch in octaves. Summary you got 4 wavetable oscillators and 1 analog modeling oscillator = 5 oscillators.
Blofeld is great bet for the price but it never be Q or XT. It's different instrument.
Correction. Each wavetable on PPG has 32 waves, each wavetable on Blofeld (there's about 70 wavetables in it!) has 64 waves. Q only has TWO wavetables with 128 waves each, and suboscillators can only produce a SQUARE wave (not a wavetable!)... so - Q can have only 2 wavetables and 3 usual waveforms. XT's oscillators are limited in that they can only use waves from the SAME wavetable, while on Q or Blofeld you can select separate wavetable for each osc - except Blofeld has more tables.
Yes and NO. Q suboscillators produce Square wave but nowhere is written that it is Square wave from "analog modeling". It is in wavetable section so it could be wavetable waveform, and I treat it like that.
XT's - Yes, but you can load your own wavetables or even do modification of existed one's. Maybe blofeld can do this by some of updates but nothing compensates blofeld vst like sound.
If You want 4 or even more separate wavetable oscillators go to multimode :)
Blofeld, to me, sounds wonderful. Granted it sounds DIFFERENT than XT or Q, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. To me, it has its own character, and I like it very much, personally.
However, in Q manual it is said that suboscillators produce a square wave, and it doesn't matter if it's from wavetable or not - it is STATIC, which means it cannot be modulated in the same way as if it were a wavetable - which breaks the whole point of calling it a "wavetable oscillator"!
The sound of the wave 2 is fantastic, the best of the ppg wave series and only single osc/wavetable as well, wonder if it the curtis filters, as I know the 2.2/2.3 uses ssm, thanks for uploading :-)
What will an original PPG do that a cheap 1 U rack mount Waldorf from their wave family not do? Or are we into the whole real Moog vs virtual analogue argument field here?
@TeeJF A lot of differences in hardware and sound too it's not any type of snobbery. For example Waldorf's don't have the BIAS knob that the PPG's have which is a key to a lot of their sounds but there are work arrounds in the Waldorf's
Also Microwave 1 is totally different sounding from Microwave 2/XT and so on
The PPG's are lovely sounding machines, if you want the sound of a PPG but don't have big money buy the Waldorf Plug-In
When you hear it dry like this it's amazing how similar it sounds to my old Yamaha TX81z rack.
audiotrax2000 1 month ago
Browsing around getting WT patch ideas for designing on Blofeld. Such potential in those tables. Thanks for the nice preview.
djemptyx 1 month ago
This is great for IDM. Timbre of everything is so weird.
DonnieDirtbox 1 month ago
Musical jewelry.How lucky he is!
MrLufiwo 2 months ago
Seriously, my ass makes better sounds. I'm sure the synth is great if the filters are set well.
Ictrlurmnd 2 months ago
cool, never heard a wave 2. was listening trying to figure how different it sounds from my 2.2. a tiny bit different maybe but its subtle.
lobit12 3 months ago
Great piece of gear.
freethoughtmusic 4 months ago
Wonderful PPG Wave 2
gennargiu 6 months ago
Real sound monster ...
delfreak 6 months ago
where do you get the shirt
FSK1138 6 months ago
This beauty has endless possibilities !
docfraktal 8 months ago
Rupert Greenald used this about as good as anyone could have musically during his time with the Fixx in the 1980's.
carriersignal 10 months ago
i have got to get an anolog synth
HypeRhymz 11 months ago
Nice sounds!!
IcarusTuga7 1 year ago
Yes they static, they are suboscillators what do you expected? :-) You know any (non modular) synthesizer with suboscillator with full blown OSC functionality?
In your point of view, wavetable OSC in Q aren't true wavetable OSC. Why? because Q lacks in "startwave" or antialiasing function. What you think?
nord384 1 year ago
@vannin666
You don´t have any clue. A PPG plus some reverb or delay on stage is not to compare with any other synth. It cuts through the band like butter - I love it.
anonymusum 1 year ago
cool synth and sounds. can the waldorf blofeld or q phoenix make these sounds?
SpiralTrance 1 year ago
@SpiralTrance
Blofeld is your best bet. Q has only 2 wavetables with a special mixture of waveforms in them, while Blofeld has about 70-ish wavetables, including those from PPG, Wave, Microwave, XT and Q.
dragonsagoth666 1 year ago
@dragonsagoth666
cool thanks
SpiralTrance 1 year ago
Waldorf Q has 3 oscillators and 2 of them can be switch to wavetable oscillators. Each of them (wavetable oscillators) has 128 waves so you got 128 x 2=256 waves. More, each of wavetable oscillators can have sub oscillator, which can be detune or pitch in octaves. Summary you got 4 wavetable oscillators and 1 analog modeling oscillator = 5 oscillators.
Blofeld is great bet for the price but it never be Q or XT. It's different instrument.
nord384 1 year ago
@nord384
Correction. Each wavetable on PPG has 32 waves, each wavetable on Blofeld (there's about 70 wavetables in it!) has 64 waves. Q only has TWO wavetables with 128 waves each, and suboscillators can only produce a SQUARE wave (not a wavetable!)... so - Q can have only 2 wavetables and 3 usual waveforms. XT's oscillators are limited in that they can only use waves from the SAME wavetable, while on Q or Blofeld you can select separate wavetable for each osc - except Blofeld has more tables.
dragonsagoth666 1 year ago
@dragonsagoth666
Yes and NO. Q suboscillators produce Square wave but nowhere is written that it is Square wave from "analog modeling". It is in wavetable section so it could be wavetable waveform, and I treat it like that.
XT's - Yes, but you can load your own wavetables or even do modification of existed one's. Maybe blofeld can do this by some of updates but nothing compensates blofeld vst like sound.
If You want 4 or even more separate wavetable oscillators go to multimode :)
nord384 1 year ago
@nord384
Blofeld, to me, sounds wonderful. Granted it sounds DIFFERENT than XT or Q, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. To me, it has its own character, and I like it very much, personally.
However, in Q manual it is said that suboscillators produce a square wave, and it doesn't matter if it's from wavetable or not - it is STATIC, which means it cannot be modulated in the same way as if it were a wavetable - which breaks the whole point of calling it a "wavetable oscillator"!
dragonsagoth666 1 year ago
the sound of this synth is awful maybe it just not for me.
lookingbill1 1 year ago
@lookingbill1 : the factory presets are weak. Properly programmed, and especially in the context of a song, the PPG can sound brilliant.
theoriginalmrsm 1 year ago
anyone have the manual to this? if so, please let me know. thanks
BreakBoy45 1 year ago
wunderful Synth - very good demonstration!
micromoog11 1 year ago
The BBC Radiophonic workshop had one of these!
Laura041974 1 year ago
The sound of the wave 2 is fantastic, the best of the ppg wave series and only single osc/wavetable as well, wonder if it the curtis filters, as I know the 2.2/2.3 uses ssm, thanks for uploading :-)
youwantotestmykungfu 1 year ago
@youwantotestmykungfu
Yes - but the best patches come from two-voice/layered sounds - only 4 note polyphony at that point.
calyx93 1 year ago
Thanks for the heads up, I have often wondered.
TeeJF 1 year ago
What will an original PPG do that a cheap 1 U rack mount Waldorf from their wave family not do? Or are we into the whole real Moog vs virtual analogue argument field here?
TeeJF 1 year ago
@TeeJF A lot of differences in hardware and sound too it's not any type of snobbery. For example Waldorf's don't have the BIAS knob that the PPG's have which is a key to a lot of their sounds but there are work arrounds in the Waldorf's
Also Microwave 1 is totally different sounding from Microwave 2/XT and so on
The PPG's are lovely sounding machines, if you want the sound of a PPG but don't have big money buy the Waldorf Plug-In
vinyljunkie07 1 year ago
This sounds like the Ensoniq Sq80!!!
MrGeorgios2020 1 year ago 2
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whiteeagle1973made 1 year ago
Thanks for video!
I love PPGs sound.
dxmat 1 year ago
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whiteeagle1973made 2 years ago
thank you for the demonstration.....my dream synth, I'm in love with this thing and it's primitive, untamed beauty....
whiteeagle1973made 2 years ago
for shure i like your PPG vids very much.
"pure, rough and grainy" discribe the wonderfull sound from the PPG 2.0.For me the best PPG ever :)
ms20user 2 years ago
pure, rough and grainy :)
nice emu stuff in the back^^
ms20user 2 years ago
Very nice video.... Great to see the variety of sounds..Very cool indeed...
PeterTheSAGAFan 2 years ago