They think its a smart idea, In THEORY yes. All the corps want is money do when there getting it from the stumulis package there not going to blow it on hireing new workers to (to them) waste there wealth. They just keep it for them selfs the the power hungry capitolists they are
Look the encomny will improve the stimulus plan will move things along faster
its just not way conservatives would like to do things you cant just go around helping people because you think they need help and taking money from the people who are rightfully entilted is just not right
Yay, with this bill, I will get an extra 15 dollars a week on my check. Thank you Obama! Now I can have an extra tank of gas for the month. Now, I can afford to go to one film with my wife every month. STIMULATE!
That stimuliss package is plunder. It takes money from one group and gives to another group.Atilla the hun did the same for his tribe.Shring the wealth,is dividing up booty and giving it to tribal members.This is nothing new.
yea they spent a trillion in iraq but that too 6 years and that is the primary function on goverment NATIONAL SECURITY obama has spent the same amount in 3 weeks he is a joke and the people that voted for him are even worse we only got 3 years and 10 months left
hannity spends every second of his show getting people to hate half the nation especially obama with every bit of their soul. I love listening to rush and beck and every other conservative talk show host, but the hate and pure bias that comes from hannity.... i turn him off immediately and listen to silence or crappy popular music.
$3 billion earmarked to ACORN (You recall ACORN, that "community organization" that gave idiots packs of Newports and alcohol to register multiple times for the presidential election.
$45 million for ATV four wheeler trails and government office renovations.
$30 million for restoration of wetlands in the San Francisco Bay area (Pelosi's district)
yeah scare the hell out of our youth with std's sounds better than abstinence lol. how does that not make sense? everything you just said came I hrd after 5 minutes of listening to hannity on the radio...jesus do some research for yourself
The above is just an iota of "Stimulus" brought to you by B. Hussein Obama and his socialist cohorts.
The bill is generally described as costing $787 billion. The congressional Budget Office reports the actual figure is now closer to $3.27 trillion. That stems from the $744 billion it will take to pay for the additional debt the legislation will create, and $2.527 trillion in increased spending from the new and expanded programs the bill will spawn over the next decade.
its funny how similar the money spent in iraq looks to what your saying here. atleast we can hop on the internet and see where the money is going with the stimulus and its all being invested into the american economy...and im sure i will disagree with a lot of it, just the same you would have disagree with a lot of where the money was/is going in iraq...btw a lot of the money is going to pay off terrorists that want americans dead.
Obama appears to be selected to sell the nation down the river. The Stimulus Package is communist garbage. After being fooled into voting this obama in as president usa stands for the united suckers of america.
Barack Obama is a complete and utter useless failure just like George W. Bush. This "Stimulus" Bill doesn't do jack shit for hard working Americans like me. A 13 dollar a week "Tax Cut"? Thanks for NOTHING Obama. The Right Wing bastards were right, this stupid ass "Bill" is nothing but "Pork" I can't believe i let myself be fooled into voting for this lying "Articulate" hack. Even big Oil think hes a God Damn joke. Gas prices are rising yet a barrel of oil is falling. This "CHANGE" is BULLSHIT
Obama is going to sell this nation down the river. I truly believe it in my heart.
I pray to GOD I am wrong. But as far as your children's future is concerned, you are better off having them go to Canada or South America because the only future they are going to have here is begging the chinese to carry their luggage, shine their shoes, server them dinner, and chauffer them around because the chinese are going to own our asses and you can't blame them. Alot of people out there need to wake up
Proof is in the pudding???? As you can NOW see, they could have passed ANYTHING since 2006 without Republican help IF they had but TRIED. But nooo.... $4.00 a gallon gas, the collapse of the stock market and all that had to be put on Bush's watch. Good old lefty politics as usual. The ride has just started it's already looking like a roller coaster that jumps off of a cliff.
Both Bush and Obama are what you will find out to be Fabian Socialists. But Obama is more Marxist in theory and action. Both men and most in Congress believe in LARGE government because that is how they keep power and money.
You WANT to learn about what is really going on? About the financial system, the FED, the IMF, etc. Without any partisan BS? Read The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve. You can find it on Amazon.
And then please do me a favor and try to find someone or some place that will refute it. Because I have been trying to find someone to refute this information for 5 months and I cannot. The author provides footnotes and reference notes.
Democrats better hope that Obama is not Lincoln because Lincoln led a civil war in America in which more than 600,000 Americans died and that was when the population wasn't as big as it is now.
Lincoln a good soul, freed slaves. Obama an evil soul, freeing Terrorist in Gitmo. Lincoln was known as "Honest Abe", Obama is known as a Liar. Lincoln only spend $700 while in office, Obama is going to put the country in debt for generations to come.
Breaking News! 02/11/09 They've reached an agreement and taxpayers get screwed royally. We pay, they play.
Obama's "Making Work Pay" tax credit would be reduced from $500 per worker to $400, with couples eligible for an $800 credit, instead of $1,000, said a Democratic aide close to the talks. This aide spoke on condition of anonymity because the negotiations are private.
Obama has a chance, he is OUR president. The stimulus package that passed is huge, and it is full of crap that our nation can't afford. This isn't about Dem or Rep this is about our country, our hard earned tax dollars being thrown down the drain.
A chance for what. To screw up our economy even worse. This bill is something this country can't afford. What does he think. Money grows in trees. He knos nothing about economics.
The problem with all these comments: People only watch tv and read crap on the internet. So very FEW of you know what the hell you are talking about. This issue is NOT president specific. Look back in history, you do not have to go very far back. Whenever there is a BAILOUT present BOTH SIDES come to the rescue. Even though the GOP did not vote for this one they DID manage 3 of them in the Senate to push it through.
ALL BAILOUTS GET PASSED.... THINK BEYOND CNN People, we are LOSING OUR COUNTRY.
I think all of this is being done on purpose to kill the dollar worldwide and force us into a one world government with one currency. What better way to speed it up that passing the largest spending bill ever in the US
This clown can also take his little address of the nation tonite and stick it up his arse......keep talking BO you're digging a hole and i LOVE seeing this begin to happen....sorry brain washed masses
Crank up the press, fill the ink wells. Mr Obama knock heads, step over the past and take me in to my future ASAP. No harm to all of you that want to keep the money for your grand kids. I want my money and I want it NOW.
In the stimulus theres $198 million to compensate Filipino World War II veterans for their service. Most dont live in the United States. I'm sure that the few left will end up millionaires with that much money to split among them.
What about the vietnam veterans and other Us veterans? And, there is no money in the stimulus for the US Mexican border fence. Now, tell me who Obama is catering to? The answer, "Not the American people."
1 trillion ---- 1 Million for every non-muslim American. It's time for the taxpayers who foot the bill to get rich, not just the lawmakers. Screw the honeybees and the fish, we want our millions.
200 Million ---- To finish the Mexican US border fence
300 Million ---- To depart illegals and their children
The American people could sure stimulate the economy with this type of money.
A spoils system (also known as a patronage system) is an informal practice where a political party, after winning an election, gives government jobs to its voters as a reward for working toward victory, and as an incentive to keep working for the party.
So, I'm sure this means that all the jobs created by the stimulus bill will be for blacks & foreigners. Since, that is mostly who voted for Obama.
Only a dumb ass would NOT be able to tell that Obama is running scared because he might not make his pay off to his crooks if his stimulus bill is not passed. So, Obama is trying to scare the Senate and the American people into passing the stimulus bill because he is the one who is running scared. If the stimulus bill doesn't pass Obama's crisis will be a catastrophe because he won't be able to pay off crooks like Acorn and the other crooks he owes favors to. Sorry, Obama, "You play, you pay!"
this bill will not stimulate the economy! it is the biggest pork spending bill this country has ever seen. Obama said before he got elected that he would cut pork spending. he also said he "would use a scalpel not a slug hammer" to the economy problems. this "stimulus" bill is a big disappointment!
Will you favor the bill? Will you favor paying off Obama's debts? Obama is trying to scare the Senate and the American people into passing the stimulus bill because he is the one who is running scared. If the stimulus bill doesn't pass it will be catastrophe for Obama because he won't be able to pay off crooks like Acorn and the other crooks he owes favors to. Only a dumb ass would not be able to tell that Obama is running scared.
RepubliCONs enjoy the SAME exact "STIMULUS PACKAGE" that Craig, Foley and RepubliCANT Preacher Ted Haggard enjoyed! Indulge yourself; but, don't get too choked up about it! LOL! ~Ban Coulter
obama has already dropped 43% in his popularity poll. His lunatic party is already self destructing. They're all corrupt as hell. The package is full of pure bullshit. Meet the new boss same as the new boss. I voted for him only to get back at the Republicans, and things are going just as I suspected. He's a huge fraud so is his party, America is finished
zinnington; I beleived you meant "meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Now let make some corrections, Prez Obama popularity dropped from 80% to 66% that is not a 43% drop. 2nd Bush left with 20% or lower that is sad.
Actually I got the stats off one of the cable creature stations. Never the less, They are all ready failing. What a dissapoint ment to. His own party namely that creton Pelosi. Back in the 60's when the Dems ruined us with the War on Poverty, they got away with it. There was no Internet or exposure like today. Gurantee they'll be out of business by the mid terms. After that God help us.
The ONLY reason they wanna pass the stimulus package is because our congessmen and senators stand to pocket a lot of money. That's why they want to hurry up and pass it, to line their pockets..
Looks like while were throwing all this money around we could drill in Alaska, lay some pipe, build another oil refinery that would handle all most of the oil we need in the us, and leave the middle east to blow themselves up. Solve two problems at once..... win win
The president of change, lmao. The biggest pork bill in history, definite change. Tougher restrictions on Lobbyist. He hired one that didn't pay his taxes. that is a change for sure as I don't think any administration has hired one this dubious before. they changed the rules so Hilary could have the position she now has, which a law suit was just filed by an employee of the state department about that. The change is more of the same ole BS just on a larger scale, we are all doomed.
"Global Warming" what a load of crap. Temp's fluctuate, ice ages come and go.... yada yada yada... when the human race exterminates it's self, mother earth will simply yawn and start anew....
I have thought for some time that president Obama will end up making President Carter look conservitive. This guy is spending us blind.Can double digit inflation be far behind? The people are getting what they voted for!!
they said they won't him to fail and they mean it. mr pres should use this as a clear indication of where the republicans stand with him. stop wasting time with them and get on with the country business we hire you for. i hope he learn his first lesson here
hey stupid motherfucker didnt we have a 750 billion dolaar plan 6 months ago and now 886 more billion dollars do you know that if we were to spend 1 million dollars a day it would take us 840 ys to spend all that money thats alot of money oh has the 750 billion dollar 6 months ago helped any? now answer that question dumbass
LOOK!!! don't do me!!...cause i hate to have to do damage....seriously!...u might wanna calm yo butt down...and anyway Obama can't do no worse than Bush did...so shut yo dumb butt up..ignorant punk....
Obama just became the worst president and it took him only about three weeks. Wow congrats sheep for voting this unexperienced clown into office. Keep praying to him for things to change and drink the cool-aid.
Yea I agree. He has become the worst president in history as of now. He's passing a bill that we can't even afford. This country will get even worse thanks to Hussein Obama.
The plan DOESN'T go far enough...where is the $1 billion for forced sterilization of the "inner-city" deadwood that are a drag on society...the $20 billion to repatriate immigrants (legal and illegal) who came here in the last 5 years....the $1 trillion to build an off-shore island for gays to live openly and in thongs all day..the $2 trillion to develop a colony on Mars for our obese citizens who drive up health costs...and $3 trillion in loans to give to the Canadians to buy Michigan from us?
We did try some of this before. Compulsory sterilization was legal in all 50 states for a good part of this century -- primarily used on minorities, very often American Indians.
And there was also Margaret Sanger's Negro Project in Harlem sponsored by the Rockefeller foundation which also supporter the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany.
In Eugenics and social engineering we have been one of the most successful cultures ever -- more effective than the Spartans or the Nazis.
The vote is partisan. The Dems will support it the Republicans wont. The Democrats who will vote against it are Dems from conservative leaning districts. It shows you what is to come in the next couple years. If the package doesn't make a dent in a bad economy Republicans will say I told you so and they will gain seats in 2010.
What you don't understand bravesfan, Republicans didn't vote for it because it's a bad bill! Fixing up the Smithsonian and giving 400 million for "Global warming research" is not econimic stimulus. Take all the crap out of it, then give it another try! This is truly a Socialist we now have as president. Someone needs to tell him Kark Marx died A LONG TIME AGO!!
It is not a done deal. It has to go to Senate. Procedures for considering a bill from the House goes through different hurdles. Dems/Reps voted along party lines in the House I bet you according to how their constituents voted in the 2008 election. This is the House of Reps fault because I don't think they read through the bill to see all the unecessary items that needed to be eradicated. We've had bills that have passed like this before and nobody called the pres who endorsed those a socialist.
They didn't just vote along party lines bravesfan, 14 Dems voted against it. They should be commended for it. Worst bill that has ever been presented. It's just a disguise for MORE government spending. This bill is hardly a stimulus package with all it's earmarks and pork. Pathetic. We have NEVER had a bill pass like this before, you are dead wrong on that one.
Nobody wanted the TARP -- I certainly thought that was socialist. I certainly thought the auto-bailouts were socialist. More Dems were for it, and the Repubs. were not -- but in the end they caved.
The mess started with the housing bubble, banks lost footing, Lehman crashed... That housing mess is mostly attributed to the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 social engineering policy. I'd call that Socialism as well. But let's just look forward now and tell our reps to be responsible NOW.
Absolutely not President Barack Obama Sir! You make the Republicans eat dirt.. You will not make any compromises in regards to your request on behalf of American Citizens.. You will continue to publicly embarrass and humiliate the very small handful of Republicans who profess to have a disdain for the necessity of economic stimulation.
You will direct the Department of Justice to quickly obtain a list of all campaign contributors, of all Republicans who are presenting you with a problem.
Yes lets socialize auto ownership. Any one living near public transportation will have to use it or ride a bus. We can expand our subways by 825 billion dollars.This will create JOBS. now and latter. Driving in this country has already been determined to be a privilege and not a right. Lets start with NYC. This will stop global warming too. Save a whole lot of gas. Call your Senator now.
Yes lets build subways for all the people living in and around our big city's. Buy everyone a bike and get them off the roads. This will cut the need for road repairs. This will cut our need for oil. It will create jobs building the subways and staffing job will last forever.
Trickle Down Economics does not work. It didn't work 30 years ago, it didn't work 8 years ago, it doesn't work. it's not a political thing. Put people to work building stuff. They'll have jobs, the $ stays here and we get to keep the stuff! Tax breaks will just go to credit card companies or banks, LET'S BUILD STUFF!
It does work. History show it does work -- Reagan had the most terrible economy since the Great Depression in 1981. Ours is not even close. 20% rate for a 30 year mortgage, unemployment 11%, inflation 13.5%. And he nipped in the bud quickly and we had the longest bull market in all of history.
FDR inherited the great depression and we never fully recovered until WWII turned brought us prosperity.
And, just as this stimulus package will do, the New Deal left us with such mismanaged monsters as Welfare, Social Security, Fannie Mae, etc.
Kennedy's tax cuts increased the tax revenues the gov't took in by over 50%. Is it magic -- no it's trickle down economics -- give us our money and we'll do a better job being productive with it.
Sounds like a good point, but the problem is is that people will spend the money and not invest it. If I got a check for 500-1000, I would pay off some credit card bills. Americans just don't do that because many are greedy!
Yes -- which is why I dfid not give Bush's tax cuts as an example of supply-side. A tax rebate historically does not help the economy. As an individual -- I too take the $600 and put it in the bank -- I did it with Bush's check. But I can tell you without a doubt that as a small business owner, that a substantial cut in cap gains and corp taxes would most definitely cause me to invest in the economy -- buy bargains stock, hire people. And I'm nobody -- imagine it on the greater scale.
I'm a small business owner -- if they gave me a significant tax cut, I'd hire two more people, but right now I'm just taking all the work on myself, waiting in the sidelines until I see a sign that something better is coming our way. I just don't have any confidence in this.
I cut jobs in advance of the red tape and taxes Obama is forcing down our throats. The buisness atmosphere is a mess and the democrates are to blame. Welcome to double digit inflation! The market will be under 4000 befor he is out of office. Thank you Illinois democrates!
We have the highest corp. tax rate in the industrialized world. Lowering that would give incentive for companies to stay here -- to come here. States do that -- they want more businesses to come to their state and create jobs, they give tax incentives. You can't say that doesn't work. It just does -- historically speaking.
More BS spending. What we need is money spent on public transportation in and around our big city's. Get all the people on both cost out of their cars and on the subway. This will create jobs building the subways and maintaining and staffing them. It will save of %25 of our oil use. Take their cars away.
Firstly, how is any of this stimulative? Even if you think these causes are fine, look at the price tags!! Look at our deficit. Is this what you do in your household -- "honey, I know you lost your job and money is tight and we are taking whatever odd jobs we can find to pay our rent, but let's buy the flat screen TV now and go out to eat every Saturday"
Secondly, whatever happened to "never again will we hand out money with no strings attached" after the TARP passage (which also had to be done immediately without any debate or thought, or else we are doomed). But now we are doling it out to these states (as well as other programs) without forcing them to make cuts in their spending or making sure they will spend these monies properly.
pork barrel mis-spending, obama you are off track with the working class, 10 percent of the population have 90 percent of the money, hey obama dont forget to feed the slaves!
hey blue collar bussiness owners! lets get DC back everyone unite and raise pricing on services 20 - 25 percent fuck these rich assholes....lets get ours
Small businesses account for 55 percent of jobs, 70 percent of new jobs and about 60 percent of all innovation.
Small business owners are a huge part of this economy. We should contact our Senators and tell them what we think of this bill. They may have been sipping top shelf cocktails together last night (I'd like to know the price tag of that party), but we are here struggling to keep it together -- they need a dose of reality and we should give it to them.
what a load of crap, The market is heading higher today on hopes that a 'bad bank/good bank' plan will help resolve the banking crisis," this is the biggest pork barrel spending stimulus package so-far. the rich get richer on the stockmarket, the poor get to buy the bad assets with their tax dollars, loose there jobs to india, and sit in the shadow of the fat cats raping america....hey obama your bankrupting this country, loose bernanke he's the problem.
Im going to cash my stimulus check and make a "Deposit"
I can't wait for my next free check from obama.
Obama is such a tool, i thought he was for the people. With 1 trillion dollars he could give 200million people 50,000 usd.
SoLoLaamer 2 years ago
They think its a smart idea, In THEORY yes. All the corps want is money do when there getting it from the stumulis package there not going to blow it on hireing new workers to (to them) waste there wealth. They just keep it for them selfs the the power hungry capitolists they are
hotel12tango 2 years ago
Too bad we don't have some Founding Fathers around to educate these guys who know so little about economics.
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the
Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
— James Madison
oilhammer04 2 years ago
Look the encomny will improve the stimulus plan will move things along faster
its just not way conservatives would like to do things you cant just go around helping people because you think they need help and taking money from the people who are rightfully entilted is just not right
Conservativesaregood 2 years ago
mystimuluspack com
mystimulus 2 years ago
Republican "Party" = Criminal Corporate capitalism and Ignorant Racist Classicism.
Biafrans7 2 years ago
Yay, with this bill, I will get an extra 15 dollars a week on my check. Thank you Obama! Now I can have an extra tank of gas for the month. Now, I can afford to go to one film with my wife every month. STIMULATE!
HellHammerX 2 years ago
"Yes we can't."
What did you expect, the man had no plan no platform, and no clue.
Conan568 2 years ago 2
So glad everyone voted for him. Hes doing such an amazing job! God hes just making everything worse.
xxxrachell 2 years ago
That stimuliss package is plunder. It takes money from one group and gives to another group.Atilla the hun did the same for his tribe.Shring the wealth,is dividing up booty and giving it to tribal members.This is nothing new.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
yea they spent a trillion in iraq but that too 6 years and that is the primary function on goverment NATIONAL SECURITY obama has spent the same amount in 3 weeks he is a joke and the people that voted for him are even worse we only got 3 years and 10 months left
lobud1 2 years ago
This fucking nigger will run our asses broke...just before our enemies fucking nuke us. Barack Obama...what a fucking joke.
ObamaIsAGayCokeHead 2 years ago
so when is the checks coming in the mail and how much?
martialfan36 2 years ago
It'll show up in your check. Something like 15 dollars a week extra. Thanks Obama, that really isn't going to help that much
*damn, I voted for him too
HellHammerX 2 years ago
One day when you get taxed up the arse and have nothing to show for it you will understand.
modernbutler1 2 years ago
hannity spends every second of his show getting people to hate half the nation especially obama with every bit of their soul. I love listening to rush and beck and every other conservative talk show host, but the hate and pure bias that comes from hannity.... i turn him off immediately and listen to silence or crappy popular music.
helicon289 2 years ago
i think the bill is excessive, but its not the endof the world like sean hannity will have you believe...the guy is a nut.
helicon289 2 years ago
This B. Hussein Obama's 'Stimulus" porker:
$3 billion earmarked to ACORN (You recall ACORN, that "community organization" that gave idiots packs of Newports and alcohol to register multiple times for the presidential election.
$45 million for ATV four wheeler trails and government office renovations.
$30 million for restoration of wetlands in the San Francisco Bay area (Pelosi's district)
kcufmalsi 2 years ago
$50 million for the National Endowment of the Arts.
$1.3 billion to bailout AMTRAK, the perennial money-loser railroad.
$200 million for a coal-fired power plant in B. Hussein Obama's home state of Illinois.
$1 billion for educational programs such as courses on STD's.
kcufmalsi 2 years ago
yeah scare the hell out of our youth with std's sounds better than abstinence lol. how does that not make sense? everything you just said came I hrd after 5 minutes of listening to hannity on the radio...jesus do some research for yourself
helicon289 2 years ago
hannity said himself 1 in 4 americans have genital herpes....THATS FUCKING SCARY.
helicon289 2 years ago
The above is just an iota of "Stimulus" brought to you by B. Hussein Obama and his socialist cohorts.
The bill is generally described as costing $787 billion. The congressional Budget Office reports the actual figure is now closer to $3.27 trillion. That stems from the $744 billion it will take to pay for the additional debt the legislation will create, and $2.527 trillion in increased spending from the new and expanded programs the bill will spawn over the next decade.
kcufmalsi 2 years ago
its funny how similar the money spent in iraq looks to what your saying here. atleast we can hop on the internet and see where the money is going with the stimulus and its all being invested into the american economy...and im sure i will disagree with a lot of it, just the same you would have disagree with a lot of where the money was/is going in iraq...btw a lot of the money is going to pay off terrorists that want americans dead.
helicon289 2 years ago
heres some money so you dont kill me now....sweet says the terrorist, this money, with some planning will kill two or three americans in the future
helicon289 2 years ago
Republican Party = Criminal Corporate Capitalism and Ignorant Racist Classicism.
Biafrans7 2 years ago
typical leftist rant, capitalism made this country. Stop listening to one side of the issue for a change
HellHammerX 2 years ago
Obama appears to be selected to sell the nation down the river. The Stimulus Package is communist garbage. After being fooled into voting this obama in as president usa stands for the united suckers of america.
xxmonickkkkaxx 2 years ago
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Barack Obama is a complete and utter useless failure just like George W. Bush. This "Stimulus" Bill doesn't do jack shit for hard working Americans like me. A 13 dollar a week "Tax Cut"? Thanks for NOTHING Obama. The Right Wing bastards were right, this stupid ass "Bill" is nothing but "Pork" I can't believe i let myself be fooled into voting for this lying "Articulate" hack. Even big Oil think hes a God Damn joke. Gas prices are rising yet a barrel of oil is falling. This "CHANGE" is BULLSHIT
onerpone 2 years ago
Obama is going to sell this nation down the river. I truly believe it in my heart.
I pray to GOD I am wrong. But as far as your children's future is concerned, you are better off having them go to Canada or South America because the only future they are going to have here is begging the chinese to carry their luggage, shine their shoes, server them dinner, and chauffer them around because the chinese are going to own our asses and you can't blame them. Alot of people out there need to wake up
al080664 2 years ago
Proof is in the pudding???? As you can NOW see, they could have passed ANYTHING since 2006 without Republican help IF they had but TRIED. But nooo.... $4.00 a gallon gas, the collapse of the stock market and all that had to be put on Bush's watch. Good old lefty politics as usual. The ride has just started it's already looking like a roller coaster that jumps off of a cliff.
HouseOfGroove 2 years ago
Both Bush and Obama are what you will find out to be Fabian Socialists. But Obama is more Marxist in theory and action. Both men and most in Congress believe in LARGE government because that is how they keep power and money.
queequegscoffin 2 years ago
You WANT to learn about what is really going on? About the financial system, the FED, the IMF, etc. Without any partisan BS? Read The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve. You can find it on Amazon.
And then please do me a favor and try to find someone or some place that will refute it. Because I have been trying to find someone to refute this information for 5 months and I cannot. The author provides footnotes and reference notes.
READ JUST A FEW PAGES.
queequegscoffin 2 years ago
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Democrats better hope that Obama is not Lincoln because Lincoln led a civil war in America in which more than 600,000 Americans died and that was when the population wasn't as big as it is now.
Lincoln a good soul, freed slaves. Obama an evil soul, freeing Terrorist in Gitmo. Lincoln was known as "Honest Abe", Obama is known as a Liar. Lincoln only spend $700 while in office, Obama is going to put the country in debt for generations to come.
retired77070 3 years ago
cant afford a stimulus package but we can afford a war thats not even ours...lol
aztecheighty 3 years ago
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Breaking News! 02/11/09 They've reached an agreement and taxpayers get screwed royally. We pay, they play.
Obama's "Making Work Pay" tax credit would be reduced from $500 per worker to $400, with couples eligible for an $800 credit, instead of $1,000, said a Democratic aide close to the talks. This aide spoke on condition of anonymity because the negotiations are private.
retired77070 3 years ago
You gave BUSH eight years to mess a lot up! GIVE OBAMA A CHANCE!!!!
kaileys999 3 years ago
Obama has a chance, he is OUR president. The stimulus package that passed is huge, and it is full of crap that our nation can't afford. This isn't about Dem or Rep this is about our country, our hard earned tax dollars being thrown down the drain.
z2two 3 years ago
A chance for what. To screw up our economy even worse. This bill is something this country can't afford. What does he think. Money grows in trees. He knos nothing about economics.
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queequegscoffin 2 years ago
The problem with all these comments: People only watch tv and read crap on the internet. So very FEW of you know what the hell you are talking about. This issue is NOT president specific. Look back in history, you do not have to go very far back. Whenever there is a BAILOUT present BOTH SIDES come to the rescue. Even though the GOP did not vote for this one they DID manage 3 of them in the Senate to push it through.
ALL BAILOUTS GET PASSED.... THINK BEYOND CNN People, we are LOSING OUR COUNTRY.
queequegscoffin 2 years ago
I think all of this is being done on purpose to kill the dollar worldwide and force us into a one world government with one currency. What better way to speed it up that passing the largest spending bill ever in the US
HellHammerX 2 years ago
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In his first big news conference, Obama confirmed what is in this Youtube video titled.
Smoking Gun: Democrat Insider Says "Obama Has Secret Plan to Fund a Patronage System"
Last night Obama said, "Only government can create jobs."
Now it's up to us the people to empower ourselves. Go to nostimulus(dot)com and sign the petition to scrap the stimulus package.
retired77070 3 years ago
This clown can also take his little address of the nation tonite and stick it up his arse......keep talking BO you're digging a hole and i LOVE seeing this begin to happen....sorry brain washed masses
howdythere38 3 years ago
Crank up the press, fill the ink wells. Mr Obama knock heads, step over the past and take me in to my future ASAP. No harm to all of you that want to keep the money for your grand kids. I want my money and I want it NOW.
mudboney 3 years ago
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In the stimulus theres $198 million to compensate Filipino World War II veterans for their service. Most dont live in the United States. I'm sure that the few left will end up millionaires with that much money to split among them.
What about the vietnam veterans and other Us veterans? And, there is no money in the stimulus for the US Mexican border fence. Now, tell me who Obama is catering to? The answer, "Not the American people."
retired77070 3 years ago
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Burp! 1st pkg wrong!
Retired77070's Stimulus Bill:
1 trillion ---- 1 Million for every non-muslim American. It's time for the taxpayers who foot the bill to get rich, not just the lawmakers. Screw the honeybees and the fish, we want our millions.
200 Million ---- To finish the Mexican US border fence
300 Million ---- To depart illegals and their children
The American people could sure stimulate the economy with this type of money.
retired77070 3 years ago
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retired77070 3 years ago
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Smoking Gun: Democrat Insider Says "Obama Has Secret Plan to Fund a Patronage System"
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retired77070 3 years ago
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A spoils system (also known as a patronage system) is an informal practice where a political party, after winning an election, gives government jobs to its voters as a reward for working toward victory, and as an incentive to keep working for the party.
So, I'm sure this means that all the jobs created by the stimulus bill will be for blacks & foreigners. Since, that is mostly who voted for Obama.
retired77070 3 years ago
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Only a dumb ass would NOT be able to tell that Obama is running scared because he might not make his pay off to his crooks if his stimulus bill is not passed. So, Obama is trying to scare the Senate and the American people into passing the stimulus bill because he is the one who is running scared. If the stimulus bill doesn't pass Obama's crisis will be a catastrophe because he won't be able to pay off crooks like Acorn and the other crooks he owes favors to. Sorry, Obama, "You play, you pay!"
retired77070 3 years ago
this bill will not stimulate the economy! it is the biggest pork spending bill this country has ever seen. Obama said before he got elected that he would cut pork spending. he also said he "would use a scalpel not a slug hammer" to the economy problems. this "stimulus" bill is a big disappointment!
LOUISIANAforlife 3 years ago
Will you favor the bill? Will you favor paying off Obama's debts? Obama is trying to scare the Senate and the American people into passing the stimulus bill because he is the one who is running scared. If the stimulus bill doesn't pass it will be catastrophe for Obama because he won't be able to pay off crooks like Acorn and the other crooks he owes favors to. Only a dumb ass would not be able to tell that Obama is running scared.
retired77070 3 years ago 2
You mean like Bush did when he scared the us in to war or when he scared us to pay his wall street friends.
UColey 3 years ago
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RepubliCONs enjoy the SAME exact "STIMULUS PACKAGE" that Craig, Foley and RepubliCANT Preacher Ted Haggard enjoyed! Indulge yourself; but, don't get too choked up about it! LOL! ~Ban Coulter
mavrek47 3 years ago
obama has already dropped 43% in his popularity poll. His lunatic party is already self destructing. They're all corrupt as hell. The package is full of pure bullshit. Meet the new boss same as the new boss. I voted for him only to get back at the Republicans, and things are going just as I suspected. He's a huge fraud so is his party, America is finished
zinnington 3 years ago
zinnington; I beleived you meant "meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Now let make some corrections, Prez Obama popularity dropped from 80% to 66% that is not a 43% drop. 2nd Bush left with 20% or lower that is sad.
UColey 3 years ago
Actually I got the stats off one of the cable creature stations. Never the less, They are all ready failing. What a dissapoint ment to. His own party namely that creton Pelosi. Back in the 60's when the Dems ruined us with the War on Poverty, they got away with it. There was no Internet or exposure like today. Gurantee they'll be out of business by the mid terms. After that God help us.
zinnington 3 years ago
I hope for all of us the DEMS and REP do the right thing for the people and not themself.
UColey 3 years ago
The ONLY reason they wanna pass the stimulus package is because our congessmen and senators stand to pocket a lot of money. That's why they want to hurry up and pass it, to line their pockets..
ViperIce1976 3 years ago
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Fed debt per person: $58K
Un-funded Medicare/Medicaid per person: $332K
Fed's plundered trusts per person: $30K
Un-funded SS: $166K
Every American owes: $586K for FED debt
Gov grows 4 Xs faster than economy
Fed spending grows 16 times faster than economy, (16 fold expansion in control & gov dependence)
The US gov now holds 57% share of entire National Income = Government makes more than all the money made in private sector!
How long does the USA honestly think it will last?
sugarpuddin88 3 years ago
Looks like while were throwing all this money around we could drill in Alaska, lay some pipe, build another oil refinery that would handle all most of the oil we need in the us, and leave the middle east to blow themselves up. Solve two problems at once..... win win
paleoman1999 3 years ago
We can never repay this money and the weight of the interest on it alone assures us this country will crumble,
Obama is the last US president. That would be quite a distinction provided there would be history books to record it.
Pap1010 3 years ago
The president of change, lmao. The biggest pork bill in history, definite change. Tougher restrictions on Lobbyist. He hired one that didn't pay his taxes. that is a change for sure as I don't think any administration has hired one this dubious before. they changed the rules so Hilary could have the position she now has, which a law suit was just filed by an employee of the state department about that. The change is more of the same ole BS just on a larger scale, we are all doomed.
rodzilla255 3 years ago
What ever happened to I will go line by line and cut out frivolous spending?
I could have sworn that BO said he would put an end to ear marks? This was 4 months ago.
This is BOs first let down to the American people and his promise.
Yereviltwin2 3 years ago
$20 billion to increase the food stamp benefit
$2 billion for child-care subsidies
$400 million for global-warming research
50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
$650 million for digital TV conversion coupons
Does this sound like a stimulus package to create jobs?
Double the deficit in one swoop and I thought Bush had irresponsible fiscal policies!
Thank Mr President for bankrupting our future
AssHatSockPuppet 3 years ago
"Global Warming" what a load of crap. Temp's fluctuate, ice ages come and go.... yada yada yada... when the human race exterminates it's self, mother earth will simply yawn and start anew....
paleoman1999 3 years ago
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Jaraviyana 3 years ago
I have thought for some time that president Obama will end up making President Carter look conservitive. This guy is spending us blind.Can double digit inflation be far behind? The people are getting what they voted for!!
john51880 2 years ago
they said they won't him to fail and they mean it. mr pres should use this as a clear indication of where the republicans stand with him. stop wasting time with them and get on with the country business we hire you for. i hope he learn his first lesson here
bloom0591 3 years ago
oh Shut up...he knows what he is doin.....he's the president not you ....
Jaraviyana 3 years ago
hey stupid motherfucker didnt we have a 750 billion dolaar plan 6 months ago and now 886 more billion dollars do you know that if we were to spend 1 million dollars a day it would take us 840 ys to spend all that money thats alot of money oh has the 750 billion dollar 6 months ago helped any? now answer that question dumbass
jmsteele24 3 years ago
LOOK!!! don't do me!!...cause i hate to have to do damage....seriously!...u might wanna calm yo butt down...and anyway Obama can't do no worse than Bush did...so shut yo dumb butt up..ignorant punk....
Jaraviyana 3 years ago
Obama just became the worst president and it took him only about three weeks. Wow congrats sheep for voting this unexperienced clown into office. Keep praying to him for things to change and drink the cool-aid.
z2two 3 years ago
Yea I agree. He has become the worst president in history as of now. He's passing a bill that we can't even afford. This country will get even worse thanks to Hussein Obama.
cchank1 3 years ago
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bloom0591 3 years ago
The plan DOESN'T go far enough...where is the $1 billion for forced sterilization of the "inner-city" deadwood that are a drag on society...the $20 billion to repatriate immigrants (legal and illegal) who came here in the last 5 years....the $1 trillion to build an off-shore island for gays to live openly and in thongs all day..the $2 trillion to develop a colony on Mars for our obese citizens who drive up health costs...and $3 trillion in loans to give to the Canadians to buy Michigan from us?
ATRUEAMERICAN10000 3 years ago 2
We did try some of this before. Compulsory sterilization was legal in all 50 states for a good part of this century -- primarily used on minorities, very often American Indians.
And there was also Margaret Sanger's Negro Project in Harlem sponsored by the Rockefeller foundation which also supporter the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany.
In Eugenics and social engineering we have been one of the most successful cultures ever -- more effective than the Spartans or the Nazis.
socecil 3 years ago
The vote is partisan. The Dems will support it the Republicans wont. The Democrats who will vote against it are Dems from conservative leaning districts. It shows you what is to come in the next couple years. If the package doesn't make a dent in a bad economy Republicans will say I told you so and they will gain seats in 2010.
bravesfanforever31 3 years ago
What you don't understand bravesfan, Republicans didn't vote for it because it's a bad bill! Fixing up the Smithsonian and giving 400 million for "Global warming research" is not econimic stimulus. Take all the crap out of it, then give it another try! This is truly a Socialist we now have as president. Someone needs to tell him Kark Marx died A LONG TIME AGO!!
inkydinkydooky 3 years ago
It is not a done deal. It has to go to Senate. Procedures for considering a bill from the House goes through different hurdles. Dems/Reps voted along party lines in the House I bet you according to how their constituents voted in the 2008 election. This is the House of Reps fault because I don't think they read through the bill to see all the unecessary items that needed to be eradicated. We've had bills that have passed like this before and nobody called the pres who endorsed those a socialist.
bravesfanforever31 3 years ago
They didn't just vote along party lines bravesfan, 14 Dems voted against it. They should be commended for it. Worst bill that has ever been presented. It's just a disguise for MORE government spending. This bill is hardly a stimulus package with all it's earmarks and pork. Pathetic. We have NEVER had a bill pass like this before, you are dead wrong on that one.
inkydinkydooky 3 years ago
Nobody wanted the TARP -- I certainly thought that was socialist. I certainly thought the auto-bailouts were socialist. More Dems were for it, and the Repubs. were not -- but in the end they caved.
The mess started with the housing bubble, banks lost footing, Lehman crashed... That housing mess is mostly attributed to the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 social engineering policy. I'd call that Socialism as well. But let's just look forward now and tell our reps to be responsible NOW.
socecil 3 years ago
Absolutely not President Barack Obama Sir! You make the Republicans eat dirt.. You will not make any compromises in regards to your request on behalf of American Citizens.. You will continue to publicly embarrass and humiliate the very small handful of Republicans who profess to have a disdain for the necessity of economic stimulation.
You will direct the Department of Justice to quickly obtain a list of all campaign contributors, of all Republicans who are presenting you with a problem.
S197V6TT 3 years ago
Yes lets socialize auto ownership. Any one living near public transportation will have to use it or ride a bus. We can expand our subways by 825 billion dollars.This will create JOBS. now and latter. Driving in this country has already been determined to be a privilege and not a right. Lets start with NYC. This will stop global warming too. Save a whole lot of gas. Call your Senator now.
rvisaac 3 years ago
Yes lets build subways for all the people living in and around our big city's. Buy everyone a bike and get them off the roads. This will cut the need for road repairs. This will cut our need for oil. It will create jobs building the subways and staffing job will last forever.
rvisaac 3 years ago
Trickle Down Economics does not work. It didn't work 30 years ago, it didn't work 8 years ago, it doesn't work. it's not a political thing. Put people to work building stuff. They'll have jobs, the $ stays here and we get to keep the stuff! Tax breaks will just go to credit card companies or banks, LET'S BUILD STUFF!
jrubin22 3 years ago
It does work. History show it does work -- Reagan had the most terrible economy since the Great Depression in 1981. Ours is not even close. 20% rate for a 30 year mortgage, unemployment 11%, inflation 13.5%. And he nipped in the bud quickly and we had the longest bull market in all of history.
FDR inherited the great depression and we never fully recovered until WWII turned brought us prosperity.
socecil 3 years ago
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And, just as this stimulus package will do, the New Deal left us with such mismanaged monsters as Welfare, Social Security, Fannie Mae, etc.
Kennedy's tax cuts increased the tax revenues the gov't took in by over 50%. Is it magic -- no it's trickle down economics -- give us our money and we'll do a better job being productive with it.
socecil 3 years ago
Sounds like a good point, but the problem is is that people will spend the money and not invest it. If I got a check for 500-1000, I would pay off some credit card bills. Americans just don't do that because many are greedy!
bravesfanforever31 3 years ago
Yes -- which is why I dfid not give Bush's tax cuts as an example of supply-side. A tax rebate historically does not help the economy. As an individual -- I too take the $600 and put it in the bank -- I did it with Bush's check. But I can tell you without a doubt that as a small business owner, that a substantial cut in cap gains and corp taxes would most definitely cause me to invest in the economy -- buy bargains stock, hire people. And I'm nobody -- imagine it on the greater scale.
socecil 3 years ago
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I'm a small business owner -- if they gave me a significant tax cut, I'd hire two more people, but right now I'm just taking all the work on myself, waiting in the sidelines until I see a sign that something better is coming our way. I just don't have any confidence in this.
socecil 3 years ago
I cut jobs in advance of the red tape and taxes Obama is forcing down our throats. The buisness atmosphere is a mess and the democrates are to blame. Welcome to double digit inflation! The market will be under 4000 befor he is out of office. Thank you Illinois democrates!
john51880 2 years ago
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We have the highest corp. tax rate in the industrialized world. Lowering that would give incentive for companies to stay here -- to come here. States do that -- they want more businesses to come to their state and create jobs, they give tax incentives. You can't say that doesn't work. It just does -- historically speaking.
socecil 3 years ago
More BS spending. What we need is money spent on public transportation in and around our big city's. Get all the people on both cost out of their cars and on the subway. This will create jobs building the subways and maintaining and staffing them. It will save of %25 of our oil use. Take their cars away.
rvisaac 3 years ago
Repub or Dem -- who cares what you are. Think more! This is stimulus?? I call this INSANE!!!
socecil 3 years ago
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ACORN -- $4 billion for neighborhood stabilization
Hollywood movie making -- $246 million
universal health care advertising --$600 millio
Unspecified green job projects --$24 billion a carbon-capturing contest -- $1.5 billion
ATV trails -- $45 mil
smoking cessation -- $75 million
irresponsible states -- $200 billion (the states who have surplus $0 -- because they did their jobs and ran their states responsibly).
new cars for DC politician -- $600 million
etc.
socecil 3 years ago
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Firstly, how is any of this stimulative? Even if you think these causes are fine, look at the price tags!! Look at our deficit. Is this what you do in your household -- "honey, I know you lost your job and money is tight and we are taking whatever odd jobs we can find to pay our rent, but let's buy the flat screen TV now and go out to eat every Saturday"
socecil 3 years ago
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Secondly, whatever happened to "never again will we hand out money with no strings attached" after the TARP passage (which also had to be done immediately without any debate or thought, or else we are doomed). But now we are doling it out to these states (as well as other programs) without forcing them to make cuts in their spending or making sure they will spend these monies properly.
socecil 3 years ago
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BillyCronin822 3 years ago
still waiting on the marijuana decriminalization...
cmc30250 3 years ago
Don't worry, you'll get it. Barry is George Soros's boy.
Oh, and Afghanistan opium too.
socecil 3 years ago
pork barrel mis-spending, obama you are off track with the working class, 10 percent of the population have 90 percent of the money, hey obama dont forget to feed the slaves!
tbackes 3 years ago
hey blue collar bussiness owners! lets get DC back everyone unite and raise pricing on services 20 - 25 percent fuck these rich assholes....lets get ours
tbackes 3 years ago
Small businesses account for 55 percent of jobs, 70 percent of new jobs and about 60 percent of all innovation.
Small business owners are a huge part of this economy. We should contact our Senators and tell them what we think of this bill. They may have been sipping top shelf cocktails together last night (I'd like to know the price tag of that party), but we are here struggling to keep it together -- they need a dose of reality and we should give it to them.
socecil 3 years ago
what a load of crap, The market is heading higher today on hopes that a 'bad bank/good bank' plan will help resolve the banking crisis," this is the biggest pork barrel spending stimulus package so-far. the rich get richer on the stockmarket, the poor get to buy the bad assets with their tax dollars, loose there jobs to india, and sit in the shadow of the fat cats raping america....hey obama your bankrupting this country, loose bernanke he's the problem.
tbackes 3 years ago 4
Your 100% right!Thank you for telling the truth!!!
killergames187 3 years ago 2
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