I'm a tenor banjo- mandolin player, wanted a deeper tone instrument, can't wrap my head around the guitar keyboard. Bought a cittern from Lark in The Morning and experimented with strings and tunings. I'm using paired tenor banjo strings plus a pair of .052 wound strings for the bass course tuned DAEBF# I find it extremely versatile for country, bluegrass, and old pop tunes. I have had many questions on this, but here's one bastardization that works.
Thank you Mr. Sobol for this masterpiece with the cittern. when I'm in a bad mood, this song always makes me happy! I hope that you will upload more video!!!
Different tools for different tasks. Long-scale bouzouki is great for power-chord backup, murder on the left-hand for melody playing. If you come from a guitar background cittern is a close adaptation; if you come from a mando background octave mandolin is an easier switch, and it's better for melody.
@Citternalia Thanks for the advice, there's not many people to ask over here in the states so I do appreciate it. I play a lot more guitar than mandolin, and all of my riffs and solos come from chords and open strings, unlike many bouzouki players. I was thinking for more rhythm purposes because of the beautiful full strumming sound.
Whoa! I keep coming back to this over and over again. Smoother than a baby's bottom. I play my bodhran to this or keep a beat on the desk. Just can't help it! Damn fine job!!!
Lo and behold the wonders of YouTube. Yes, if it was the Saturday afternoon before Easter that would have been me, first and only time in Hobgoblin. That was a nice Fylde archtop cittern btw, 1100 quid and a fantastic sounding machine.
Hey i know this guy. I met him in Hobgoblin music in Bristol, I think he played this, he's brilliant. I played along on a Martin 12 string guitar, he introduced me to the cittern.
I am on stefans list for a cittern but cant decide on an 8 string or 10, why do you prefer 10 ( i believe you once had a 12 at dream guitars as well. Did you ever replace it with another 12?
I come from guitar, and prefer the wider melodic and harmonic resources available with more courses. Some players prefer the narrower spectrum for its focus and percussive attack. I do have another Sobell 12-string as well as a 12-string guitar at the moment.
Hard to find a good 10-string. I really like the Fylde archtops, they have the full sound without the sky-high cost. And Roger Bucknall of Fylde is very quick and responds well to custom requests as to scale-length and wood combinations. Nikos Apollonio in Maine is quite reasonable and makes nice instruments. Some of the Canadian builders are worth checking out--Lawrence Nyberg or Peter Cox; or Graham McDonald and Jack Spira in Australia. Or find a local builder that you you can work with.
Where can I buy a cittern that's easy on the wallet? Really the kind of instrument I'm looking for, but I can't find them anywhere, especially not in my price range
(low *cough*). BTW, absolutely great playing. You've been favorited, for sure.
Home-made thumbpick: take Herco heavy flatpick-shaped thumbpick, cut off the picking end and glue a white nylon flatpick tip into the frame--makes a more consistent and natural-sounding striking surface. Acrylic coating on index, middle, and ring fingernails--otherwise they wouldn't last one tune.
Hey Joseph (if this is your profile), it's so great to hear your playing. This is Casey Phillips, the banjo player from Knoxville. We've played together a few times at Patty Sullivans, and I've always admired your work. This is excellent, as usual.
Why the backward pairs of strings? I been playing matched pairs on a 4 course and so far everybody loves the sound. This set went right into my favorites the second it started playing:)
The octaves increase sonority and give some extra cut when the melody dips low. Having the bass note on the bottom keeps the harmonic picture in the proper perspective. It's the sound I prefer--wouldn't say it's for everyone. Thanks.
Oh my, that is amazing. I'm sure it must be so fun to play like that. I'm emigrating from the Irish Zouk to the Cittern shortly. I hope I'll sound like that sometime. I only do flat picking atm. Finger style looks very agreeable though.
What a wonderful performance and great sound. I love early instruments playing celtic or old time music. Thanks for the posting. Zowie!
Broadsidejohn 4 months ago
I'm a tenor banjo- mandolin player, wanted a deeper tone instrument, can't wrap my head around the guitar keyboard. Bought a cittern from Lark in The Morning and experimented with strings and tunings. I'm using paired tenor banjo strings plus a pair of .052 wound strings for the bass course tuned DAEBF# I find it extremely versatile for country, bluegrass, and old pop tunes. I have had many questions on this, but here's one bastardization that works.
dustys1banjo 7 months ago
i love this...
fergohanlon 8 months ago
Thank you Mr. Sobol for this masterpiece with the cittern. when I'm in a bad mood, this song always makes me happy! I hope that you will upload more video!!!
Lleyaweem 8 months ago
great playing! love the sound
topper326 1 year ago
Same tuning as mine, any chance of the tab????
paddyryan53 1 year ago
@paddyryan53 --chance, I suppose, but low probability--I've never used tab and have no plans to start!
Citternalia 1 year ago
Do you recomend a Cittern or long scale Bouzouki?
xxguitarhero48xx 1 year ago
@xxguitarhero48xx
Different tools for different tasks. Long-scale bouzouki is great for power-chord backup, murder on the left-hand for melody playing. If you come from a guitar background cittern is a close adaptation; if you come from a mando background octave mandolin is an easier switch, and it's better for melody.
Citternalia 1 year ago
@Citternalia Thanks for the advice, there's not many people to ask over here in the states so I do appreciate it. I play a lot more guitar than mandolin, and all of my riffs and solos come from chords and open strings, unlike many bouzouki players. I was thinking for more rhythm purposes because of the beautiful full strumming sound.
xxguitarhero48xx 1 year ago
incroyable gig man, j'ai été scotché!! bravo, this is a wonderfull work, thank you , RESPECT
orb42 1 year ago
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orb42 1 year ago
jaysus... eveytime i watch this it blows me away. effortless... ^ master
odeamusic 1 year ago
jaysus... eveytime i watch this it blows me away.
odeamusic 1 year ago
Im gonna arrange this set for guitar if it kills me!
MrMichaelEdie 1 year ago
That's tits!!!!
Therion202 1 year ago
This is simply wonderfully perfect musicianship (and a beautiful instrument!).
martifingers 1 year ago
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mandohiker 1 year ago
Beautiful. Thanks.
bass0111 1 year ago
Superb. Absolutely top drawer - this guy is amazing.
wmsang 1 year ago
fantastic
ronimac110 1 year ago
Is there another name for that second tune? It sounds familiar.
M0DEAN 1 year ago
I never comment. Never.
But this was just fantastic! Thanks for posting.
spiderrobby 1 year ago
dazzling!
DeafFret 2 years ago
Congratulations!!
bandruid 2 years ago
awsome tunes! whats the tuning for this?
luderlarsson 2 years ago
GDGDG, with reversed octaves on the bottom three courses (bass string on the bass side of the pair).
Citternalia 2 years ago
really well done man. fantastic. This kind of playing keeps me going. It makes me want to just work harder, ya know.
thanks.
odeamusic 2 years ago 2
what i love best about your playing (other than the obvious smoothness and rhythm)
your triplets! amazing.
thanks for the post,
Ben
Agar101 2 years ago
sorry i meant to ask, it looks like a sort of rasguado idea for those triplets? is that about right? or is it more like a tremolo thing?
Agar101 2 years ago
Tremolo--it's all upstrokes, where rasguados are downstokes.
Citternalia 2 years ago
OMG... Sobel on a Sobel... you can't beat that.
Yavor54 2 years ago
Sobol on a Sobell actually. But thanks.
Citternalia 2 years ago
Hey! Thats really great.
Goes also well with the tenor banjo.
Thanks for the session.
.... and a big, big YEEEEHAAAA!
fanwick 2 years ago
Whoa! I keep coming back to this over and over again. Smoother than a baby's bottom. I play my bodhran to this or keep a beat on the desk. Just can't help it! Damn fine job!!!
9toonsis9 2 years ago
how do you have this tuned?
BmoreBusker 2 years ago
Waoh !
bitekle 2 years ago
Always glad to a musician have fun while he plays :)
MrCopperhead1861 2 years ago
if you can play the cittern, howzabout a british jig & reel....
what? oh...
chavialonso 2 years ago
Terrifically lucid playing. What a dream. Thanks for uploading.
Dracapalley 2 years ago
Lo and behold the wonders of YouTube. Yes, if it was the Saturday afternoon before Easter that would have been me, first and only time in Hobgoblin. That was a nice Fylde archtop cittern btw, 1100 quid and a fantastic sounding machine.
Citternalia 2 years ago
Hey i know this guy. I met him in Hobgoblin music in Bristol, I think he played this, he's brilliant. I played along on a Martin 12 string guitar, he introduced me to the cittern.
JakcF 2 years ago
I am on stefans list for a cittern but cant decide on an 8 string or 10, why do you prefer 10 ( i believe you once had a 12 at dream guitars as well. Did you ever replace it with another 12?
nohomatt 2 years ago
I come from guitar, and prefer the wider melodic and harmonic resources available with more courses. Some players prefer the narrower spectrum for its focus and percussive attack. I do have another Sobell 12-string as well as a 12-string guitar at the moment.
Citternalia 2 years ago
The best cittern playing I have seen.
abraxas123 2 years ago
hoHA :O
Uuuuurk 2 years ago
Hard to find a good 10-string. I really like the Fylde archtops, they have the full sound without the sky-high cost. And Roger Bucknall of Fylde is very quick and responds well to custom requests as to scale-length and wood combinations. Nikos Apollonio in Maine is quite reasonable and makes nice instruments. Some of the Canadian builders are worth checking out--Lawrence Nyberg or Peter Cox; or Graham McDonald and Jack Spira in Australia. Or find a local builder that you you can work with.
Citternalia 3 years ago
Where can I buy a cittern that's easy on the wallet? Really the kind of instrument I'm looking for, but I can't find them anywhere, especially not in my price range
(low *cough*). BTW, absolutely great playing. You've been favorited, for sure.
ProfQ 3 years ago
Home-made thumbpick: take Herco heavy flatpick-shaped thumbpick, cut off the picking end and glue a white nylon flatpick tip into the frame--makes a more consistent and natural-sounding striking surface. Acrylic coating on index, middle, and ring fingernails--otherwise they wouldn't last one tune.
Citternalia 3 years ago
I've got your Citternalia CD & it's one of my favorites. I see you've got your cittern capo'd... What do you have on your picking fingers?
barbarashultz 3 years ago
Joseph, new cittern player here. What tuning(s) do you use?
bookpacker 3 years ago
GDGDG. Bottom pair are octaves with the the bass string on the bass side of the pair (reverse of a typical 12-string).
Citternalia 3 years ago
Thanks, Casey. See you at Sullivan's!
Citternalia 3 years ago
Hey Joseph (if this is your profile), it's so great to hear your playing. This is Casey Phillips, the banjo player from Knoxville. We've played together a few times at Patty Sullivans, and I've always admired your work. This is excellent, as usual.
tantoonie0 3 years ago
Thank you. Wonder how many cittern players could play it that well in the olden times :)
BubCar2 3 years ago
Wow! that is a beautiful instrument you have there!! where did you buy it? and for how much?
llamadan40 3 years ago
I got it from Elderly Instruments in Michigan, in 1990, when Sobells were quite inexpensive. Nevermore.
Citternalia 3 years ago
Why the backward pairs of strings? I been playing matched pairs on a 4 course and so far everybody loves the sound. This set went right into my favorites the second it started playing:)
hamrzlawnlake 3 years ago
The octaves increase sonority and give some extra cut when the melody dips low. Having the bass note on the bottom keeps the harmonic picture in the proper perspective. It's the sound I prefer--wouldn't say it's for everyone. Thanks.
Citternalia 3 years ago
Lovely stuff, Joseph. Glad to see here on YouTube. How are you, my friend?
Zac
Legertymusic 3 years ago
Still holding down the 2nd Tues. at the Acoustic Coffeehouse. Hope to see you there one of these...
Citternalia 3 years ago
Oh my, that is amazing. I'm sure it must be so fun to play like that. I'm emigrating from the Irish Zouk to the Cittern shortly. I hope I'll sound like that sometime. I only do flat picking atm. Finger style looks very agreeable though.
wolfandraven9999 3 years ago
Impressing! How is the instrument tuned?
andfon7a 3 years ago
Fantastic, Joseph - a real master!
orpharion 3 years ago
Huge tecnic! Congratulations, very beautiful tunes, but excellent swing and rythm, I love it!!!
What about some videos on English Guitar? ;)
Cheers
ceteracorsa 3 years ago