OCTOBER - 1927 - Sergei Eisenstein

[twilight15911]

oui mais j'ai la symphonie 7 de Chostakovitch en entier (les 4 mouvements) et je n'arrive pas à trouver ce moment. J'écoute tout en entier et c'est pas sur le CD. C'est autre part?

[ARoublev68]

@twilight15911

Oui, en effet, tu as raison, c'est le premier mouvement de la Symphonie n°12 "Pétrograd révolutionnaire" (je l'écoute là sur ma chaine hifi donc c'est sûr), excuse-moi de m'être trompée, ils utilisent plusieurs symphonies dans le film

[Einheitsfrontlied]

il y a aussi la symphonie n°11 intitulée "1905" qui est utilisée pour le film.

[MrJoseir]

Fantástico, cenas e música!

[twilight15911]

c'est quoi la musique svo j'en ai besoin pour l'histoire des arts?????

[ARoublev68]

@twilight15911 La musique, c'est la symphonie n°7 de Chostakovitch "Léningrad"

[GiantEnemyCrab63]

The machine gunner "firing" at the crowd really isnt shooting at all. It's just rapid crosscutting that makes it appear to be firing

[porchezazou]

Monsieur villard le boss : signé : un élève de 3éme5 ! xDD

[Olekander]

hmmmm

[AnimeCrazzy]

lol Peta would have a field day if this was used in this day and age.

[TurkeyProphet]

You are all idiots who have been fed capitalist lies!

The storming of the winter palace was even bloodier than Eisenstein depicts.

I should know I was there. I ran up the steps of the palace with my dual machine guns whilst Trotsky fed ammo to them. Together with Lenin, the three of us killed about 3 million members of the provisional government (after we emptied our three crates of machine gun ammo we just used our fists and teeth, Lenin, being the thinker, had of course brought his own knife)

[chemicaldali]

LOL  turkey :D

[chairkickersunion]

hahahahahahah

[zabotlivaya]

This is such complete and UTTER BULLSHIT !! The "storming" of the Winter Palace never happened this way. It was actually a small number of Commies walking up some rear staircase. I worked a the Hermitage and have seen the place and have heard the account from numerous historians ! Eisenstein was a Marxist shill like the rest of them ! PURE PROPOGANDA !

[mangafantasy]

Oui biensur c'est beau la chute du Capitalisme, le manifest du parti communiste dont Marx est l'auteur, mon livre favoris c'est magnifique mais c'est une théorie qui a jamais existé, mais qui a géré ?? qui ? ils ont tous fait la révolution mais les socialistes ont jamais su géré, que se soit la Russie l'Italie l'Allemange Cuba... etc! Voyez les choses en face!

[howlburton]

hail hitler

[ramberghini]

even though this film is communist propaganda, it still is amazing to see how rapidly film would evolve into what we know it as today. this is great filmmaking.

[thesecondshelf]

definatly- though isn't all art distributed in mass a source of propaganda?? I love Eisenstein's parallel between nature and humans....

[nimesse]

it is not just propaganda. it is art.

absolutely.

[ramberghini]

the white russians didnt help their cause by mowing down protesters with machine guns. i feel equally sorry for the green nationalist russians, who wanted a democratic republic.

[victorFbaradit]

Revolution!!!!!! For equality , no capitalism, viva russia! and his grates director, Eisenstain!

[ramberghini]

you dirty little communist. you would rather live in incurable poverty, under the will of an iron dictator and military police. a communist :people's republic" is a land where every one is equal, but some people are more equal than others.

[MarxBakuninMe]

Give the cliches a rest.

[nielsiozo]

the socialist movement will conquer the world and will defeat all the dirty capitalists,

[DJMANIFESO]

Beautiful

[AndrewMann552]

Workers Unite!

[luisfiori]

El cine en estado puro, la verdadera cultura de masas del siglo XX.

[mfwettlaufer]

As for Eisenstein, he was a genius--he has influenced ever major film maker since. Only Orson Welles comes close to his brillance.

From my memory I thought there was more to this clip--the bridge scene--than is shown but perhaps I'm wrong.

[Nornegest]

You are not alone to suppose there is another version of the bridge scene. If memory serves me correctly, the one I saw years ago had the woman lying face up and not downwards.

I've been trying to locate that version, but have so far not met with success. I can only hope it isn't banned.

[edgar0001]

Film is more than a chain of effects - Orson Wells has no content, nothing to say or just relatively poor stuff. That is different in case of Eisenstein.

[mfwettlaufer]

For rjhowie, whether you like it or not, without the revolution Russia would be a third world country today. The revolution yanked Russia into the 20th century. Tsarism was thrown out because it no longer worked--if it ever did work--and the Soviet Union also was thrown out because it no longer worked. Give them another few decades and this mafia supported form of government will also go the way of the dust bin.

[Amatherasu1789]

Very good film...but the reality was other, not violence, It was very easy, the perfect coup d´etat...

[IneptTroopr]

Except this is earlier in the film, being either the February Revolution or the July Days (can't remember which), which were both relatively bloody compared to October. Plus October wasn't a coup, it was a worker revolution; nearly the entire working class was behind the Bolsheviks when the Provisional Government was overthrown.

[Amatherasu1789]

I mean the taking of Winter palace by Trotsky and his boys...

[IneptTroopr]

Well I'm agreeing with you that the real storming of the palace was pretty much bloodless from what I remember, but it doesn't make a very good climatic battle does it :)

I also don't like how people refer to it as a coup. Coups imply that a small group overthrows a government regardless of what the majority of the population thinks. October was a revolution, because regardless of what you think of the Bolsheviks, the vast majority of the urban workers were behind them.

[Amatherasu1789]

OF COURSE A REVOLUTION!

[schlagerhansi]

Nun hört doch auf, über Politik zu streiten, es geht doch um den Film! Man hat immer "Panzerkreuzer Potemkin" als E.'s Meisterwerk bezeichnet; aber dieser Streifen ist m.E. noch besser gemacht.

[aspub]

super film

[convoy1999]

wow...

[marxistule]

Long live the Great October Revolution!

Capitalism is doomed and the working class will overthrow this murderous system.

[patricapedrosa1]

spetacular!

nothing could be more expressive than eisenstein and shostakovich...