Free Egypt from dictators and tyrants from with in and from out. US and Israel would try and block Egyptians being free cos a good goverment for Egypt is a bad goverment for them. Freeom comes with Justice not the freedom with no justice.
The point was a political/social problem...religions there were not treated equally. I hope there will be changes that correct this with the coming change of government.
*Concerning the differences in religion: "Surely pure religion is for Allah only. ...Lo! Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ." and "No laden soul will bear another's burden." (Surah 39:3 &7)
*Point...God judges right/wrong with religions, not us. Let citizens be equal in rights regardless.
The point was a political/social problem...religions there were not treated equally. I hope there will be changes that correct this with the coming change of government.
*Concerning the differences in religion: "Surely pure religion is for Allah only. ...Lo! Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ." and "No laden soul will bear another's burden." (Surah 39:3 &7)
*Point...God judges right/wrong with religions, not us. Let citizens be equal in right regardless.
"As successors of the current revolution, we must take our place as soldiers of justice to rebuild our country and revive its status as a respected nation with a 10,000 year history. And cleaning up corruption in the maritime tourism industry is crucial to the recovery of Egypt's economy," stated Maritime Law Advocate, Said Mamdouh. (+20 10 193 0333) (To open URL remove spaces and replace DOT) prlog DOT org / 11296044
I am a Muslim Egyptian and I and all of my Muslim and Christian friends are against that. The second article of the constitution must be changed and the religion field should be removed from the national ID. Thanks for the movie, it gives a chance for other ppl to think about it and support the removal of the religion field. Good job!
Attention aux touristes car l'egypte a tjrs des attentats comme cette jeune française tueé y a un an aux reveillon par un tir de grenade ou comme ces touristes tué a sharm echeick ou Assouan,caire et autres. Ne depensez pas votre argent pour riquez d'etre tuer en Egypte. c une possibilité grande.
This is a little outdated, though. In August 2009, two Baha'i Egyptians did win the right in court to have their religion left blank on their identity cards.
how do you know that european or american way is good? 'cause you belong there? i was many times in egypt and i'm turning back at list twice a year. in my country we used to say that the rich is not that one who have everything but the one who feel that is enough what he has. we in "western world" lost it. that satisfaction, greed is too big, like an endless hole. that's why i'm coming back again and again. to find that peace.and everything else.egypt rules!
A religion does not have to be accepted as logical in order for it's members to be granted human rights. Most western people (wrongly) consider Islam to be illogical, and yet they allow Mosques to be built and grant human rights to Muslims.
ok like any country in the world you view your religion to the government and it accept it or not it depends on the religion like Islam in most European countries wasn't accepted the accepted so if its logic we'll accept it
and is there any human being on the planet now or has there really ever been that can prove that any religion are the truth? I think the answer is no. THEY ARE ALL MAN MADE PEOPLE ! JUST LIKE SANTA CLAUSE AND THE EASTER BUNNY, BUT AT LEAST NOONE HAS EVER KILL OR DIED FIGHTING FOR THE EASTER BUNNY OR SANTA. RELIGION OF ANY KIND JUST LEAVES ME COLD.
Islam recognizes only Judaism and Christianity as religions, the other religions are clearly branded as a "man-made religion", therefore they must be banned, period.
hehe, its really funny that you are secular and saying this bullshit, according to your logic I think Islam should be banned in Christian countries because Christianity doesn't recognize Islam :-D
Bahais..im sorry. you guys need to get over it because guess what? Muslims dont even accept other MUSLIMS. Shias and sunnis barely get along and u expect the society to accept a brand new religion thats less than 200 years old??when these societies cant even accept each other? a person from medina still treats a person from riyadh differently even though theyre the same religion. and u think that bahais will be accepted easily? GET OVER IT. I wish they can, but this is not reality, okay?
Try to check before replying, cuz that issue was already solved by an the the egyptian supreme court at 16 march 2009, as the court decision was that the religion can be left blank in the ID, and the Egyptian minister of interior issued a Ministerial decision to allow anyone to leave his religion blank in the ID.
Great, JUSTICE! But it's still revolting. It took a 5yr legal BATTLE to get some basic dignity, and MORE than 8yrs in this situation. 8 YEARS, that's like the entire life of a child! Turns out the ministry of interior itself was behind the whole thing. Still makes me wanna puke. And u should too instead of thinking all's fine. How are those people gonna get back the YEARS wasted now? How?
i dont know why did you write this irrelevant comment here instead of sending a message to any egyptian, but anyway the PSP costs about 1400 - 1600 EGP, but the ipod can be anywhere between 500 - 1600 EGP.
Fucking fascists! I didn't even check those allegations to see if they're true but i'm already pissed. How can they have an ID card that not only FORCE people to SPECIFY a religion but ALSO doesn't even allow them to choose THEIRS?! That's total Nazi crap!
Makes me wanna puke, which is perhaps what they expect... like some sort of psy weapon
Now, without a card, you can't get married, can't be born, can't get a job, have no access to education or health insurance, cannot get a passport, cannot rent, cannot do anything. It is not about the card, it is about the rights every citizen is afforded through this card - these Baha'is are true Egyptians. Is this a fair situation to put a citizen who is entitled? Perhaps you say "why don't they lie and just pick one, what does it matter?" Would you put down "male" if you are in fact a woman?
Baha'is weren't getting ID cards because they had to put down one of three religions as their own... Judaism, Christianity or Islam. Now, given that they are none of these three, they asked if at the very least they could just put a "blank" or dash.... but even this was denied. So basically, they had to either lie about their Faith to get a card, or exercise truthfulness and honesty and go without a card.
I am sorry, but if you are not Jewish or Christian, you cannot expect rights. A religion that is a few hundewd years old like Islam also should not be counted as an acceptable religion. Even if Egypt is a Muslim country, it wont be in 100 yrs time
why are bahai people crying about not having (other) on thier ID cards?? i mean bahais doent even play 1 percent in the whole country of egypt alone, please bahai people anser me.
So when someone else is a minority in another country, that means they get their human rights trampled on? I'll be honest in saying that I don't know much about Bahais but I believe that this is why they call it BASIC human rights. Now the question is why don't they put their religion on the card?
How is having other on ID cards getting your Human rights trampled on?? at least these guys have access to ID cards in the first place,,,there are millions in Egypt who dont even have birth cirtificates..let alone have ID cards..
I think I see what you mean. I was under the impression they couldn't get a card at all. But in this case they do; however, they have to list their religion as "other".
While obviously, not as big of an issue as other human rights violations. You could look at it as violation in the sense of denying someone their identity and heritage that defines who they are as a people. Again, something I'm not aware of so I'll remain looking at it from the outside without knowing the details within.
No for real though that is messed up, however, Bahais need to calm down and focus on being allowed to go to hajj, why are they picking on Egypt? They need to focus on Saudi Arabia.
lol thats a lie in 1998 democracy entered Egypt thus the ppl enoyed more rights until they eventually got the same rights as Americans such as education/health care(but not free) etc........plus they have very nice night clubs;)
You're right, you're no good at English so stop trying to type and start learning to read and write. "that is smart question". Maybe you mean "that is a smart question"? You also needed a space between at and least ok. No points for you. Regardless of what is your first language is, English is the universal language so learn it, live it and spell it right at least.
You're right, you're no good at English so stop trying to type and start learning to read and write. "that is smart question". Maybe you mean "that is a smart question"? You also needed a space between at and least ok. No points for you. Regardless of what your first language is, English is the universal language so learn it, live it and spell it right at least.
salgado862002 shut the hell up you nincompoop! You don't even possess half the capacity of a monkey's brain or a grain of a squirrel's balls to say something decent and worth reading. Perhaps you should look into spending sometime reflecting on yours and your country's idiocrasy and then come back to comment when your brain does the thinking and not your nuts!
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bahais r just stupied ppl and they will never lead coz its a cheap way to make this video and attack the country they live in...go outside-to the west specially USA- and say what u want so then at least u will be only ungrateful
and why should anyone have to move somewhere because they're different? this is freaken 2008? you want to talk stupidity? read your statement above again (stupied=stupid specially=especially). you wouldn't even pass immigration if you wanted to come to the u.s. so don't waste your time commenting yourself, go get your education on okay? thank you
I for one like the video. I was not aware this was happening in Egypt. We're living in a century of understanding and light...no one should have to fight for the right to exercise their own religious beliefs...these acts are malicious. Thanks for sharing.
Bahaa is not even a relegion, it is just something bizzare that has no base in any document...it is something created by bunch of ideiots who woke up in the morning deciding to make a relegion.
we still have to follow the verse"lakom dinakom waleya deen" and still we have to respect their beliefs not ridicule them.I'm not defending them but I'm with the fact that we should treat them as we want others treat us.
why is stating your religion should be any different from stating your blod type?
I can find out anyone's religion by knowing his/her name! the problem is not in stating the religion, the real problem is abusing this info.. and that cannot be prevented by eliminating the religion from the ID card!
wow, how can you sit there and call yourself a muslim? would a real muslim use such profanity? why don't you leave egypt so some fresh air can fill the people's nostrils
Why would so many people focus on something so minor such as the creativity of a TV ad, when the greater picture highlights a very urgent and pressing issue?
Egypt spawned so many wondrous creations. Why would a civilisation so rich in history stoop so low so as to mix ones individual right of spiritual practice and belief with politics and chastisement?
Prejudice/racism all stem from one thing. Fear.
Whats so fearful about a faith that preaches the unity of mankind?
Do you know how much painful to live without civil rights. Bahai's are suffering a lot for their believes. Unfortunately it happens to all new religions in mankind history
Do you know how much painful to live without civil rights. Bahai's are suffering a lot for their believes. Unfortunately it happens to all new religions in mankind history
this statement contradicts the Qu'ran!! One God = One Religion, the Messengers are One, mankind is One, Religions are One. To exalt one above another is to deny the Oneness of God!
Islam isn't a bad religion but the reason the western world hates it is because of fanatical and ignorant assholes like you come around spreading your irrational beliefs of hatred.
I love it!!! it's done so well, very clever! its a important topic that needs attention and I think the creators of this clips managed to do just that.
Islam not only recognizes the principle of absolute equality between men irrespective of colour, race or nationality, it makes it an important reality. Almighty Allah has laid down in the Holy Qur'an: "O mankind, we have created you from a male and female." In other words, all human beings are brothers. They all are the descendants from one father and one mother. "And we set you up as nations and tribes so that you may be able to recognize each other" (49:13).
and all humand should have the right to live eqaully. up until the past couple of yrs i loved eygpt, but what the countrys govermant is doing is just disgusting and unhuman.
we are still going to be bahais even if the goverment dosent see us as citizens in eygpt. look at india, there is millions of religons living under one country and they all respect each other, so why cant eygpt do the same and respect all humans and what they belive even if the country dosnt belive in the bahai faith they should still respect us as humans.
i hope eygpt is not following the iranian goverment and what they have done to the bahais and are still doing to the bahais up until this date. takeing away our human rights dosnt effect the beliefs of the bahais.
As Bahais we love all humanity, including (but not limited to) our Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, Christian, Muslim brothers and sisters.
An important principle of the Bahai Faith is independent search for the truth by the individual, instead of following others. We have no clergy in the Bahai faith. We believe in the equality of women and men, as well as the need for harmony between science and religion.
Baha's believe that each manifestation (prophet) of God has come with a divine mesasage to guide humanity for a specific time Period. So Christianity or Islam are not the last religions, neither is the Bahai Faith. God is like a wise physician who, depending on the illness, prescribes a new and different medicine at each era.
As for Baha'u'llah, he was exiled by Muslim authorities to Palestine as a prisoner, where he passed away. Hence his residence there.
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i did read about what u call a religion and i felt that i waste my time in reading that crap
1 you said that bahai s is very similar to Islam and thats becoz u took Quran and bible and Torah and made a religion
2 your BAHAA ELDIN is the jews best friend thats explain his big palace in palatine and how he encourage by Israelis to spread his idea in the Muslims countries
3 if u believe that all religions are right why don't u be a Muslim or Christian ??
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1 prophet Mohamed didn't call for the UNITY between Muslims and nonmuslim
2 prophet Mohamed is the last Messenger of all ages and i dont know how did u get the word (religion cycle )
3 religions came from one source but with big differences that made by man but the religions i mean is : Islam and Christian and Judaism and Islam thats why we can live with them
Proof that the Prophet Mohammed *did* come to bring unity "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good)."
- Qur'an 3:85
This translation of verse [3:85] is by the well known scholar ('Abdullah) Yusuf Ali. In his commentary on this verse (note: 418), Mr. Yusuf Ali writes: (continued in next comment...)
" The Muslim position is clear. The Muslim does not claim to have a religion peculiar to himself. Islam is not a sect or an ethnic religion. In its view all Religion is one, for the Truth is one. It was the religion preached by all the earlier prophets. It was the truth taught by all the inspired Books.
In essence it amounts to a consciousness of the Will and Plan of Allah and a joyful submission to that Will and Plan. If anyone wants a religion other than that, he is false to his own nature, as he is false to Allah's Will and Plan. Such a one cannot expect guidance, for he has deliberately renounced guidance. "
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(Please note, this has all been taken from the Quran and from the famous Muslim scholar, Yusuf Ali).
Exactly, this is a couple of sentences from article 2 of the human rights document, saying that human rights is for all, regardless of religion:
"Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status... ... ..."
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believing in Muhammed as being a Messenger disagree with the existence of another religion because Muhammed is the last Messenger thats what the Quran said and if you believe that the Quran is wrong then u insult every Muslim in that planet not just the Egyptians so if u want to be a bahai get out from our country because this is not a suitable place for your stupid ideas
Muhammad does not disagree with other religions, he came to unite them, he was the last prophet, for that religious CYCLE. You can see that every time a Messenger from God came, the World was in Diar strates.. so he came to unite. He also said that the religions all came from one Source.. Allah, or God. if you believe that what you're saying is correct and it is what Muhammad said then YOU are an insult to every Muslim.
go read about what you call your Faith and you will see that Muhammad wanted UNITY. so by you saying " If you want to be a Bahai get out from our country".. then you're abit of a wolly. and again.. you're very ignorant to say that Bahai's have stupid ideas.. Do your research. Bahai Faith has very very similar Laws to Islam.
How can a religion be built on hate when one of its main aims is the unification of human kind for the progress of all civilisation? Is that really what you would call a 'stupid idea'? and one of the main principles is that all religions are true, and come from the same source - being God - so therefore Baha'is believe in Jesus and Muhammed as being Messengers of God also! If they hated Christianty and Islam, they wouldn't be Baha'is!
No religion is built on hate- and if so then how is it based on hate because the Baha'i Faith believes in unity, Peace and that all religions are based on the same fundamental principals. Also if its based on hate then why don't the Baha'is in Egypt fight back instead of obeying the laws regardless of how absurd and malicious they are?
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this is so pretentious...who r the bahis neway? they probably are a few hundred..The egyptian identity is Muslim and Christian and jewish is alowed...not some random make-shift faith
The five to seven million Baha'is would point out that by allowing only Christian, Moslem and Jew on the ID card, you're also dismissing the billion Buhddists, the several million zoroastrians, the Sikhs, the hundreds of millions of Hindu, the millions of Taoists...
Excellent video. I admire people who fight for the human rights and specially those who support other religious minorities. Thank you so much for your service to the advancement of civilization.
Keep up the GREAT job!!!! Good people have to at least say something about injustices and you guys are doing this. It is amazing how in this age people still have not learned to respect the right to freedom of belief. I understand if they were like that 1000 years ago even 100 but NOW!!! What is going on people?
Hey, most people here DO care about human rights for everyone. The fact that Egypt is denying rights to certain groups is just as unjust as any of the things you listed. But one thing: Kim Jon Il isn't North Korea. He is a dictator who lives in extreme wealth while his people are starving to death. Why the hell would you let him make a nuclear bomb?
is not just a religion.....bahaism is a political maneouver , it's a card Israel is using for pressure...for creating distablization in egypt....bahaists are not seeking a religious freedom, they r seeking to get Israel inside our country
all the bahai organizations are located in Israel, and financed by them.....so stop whatever the fuck u think u r doing
coz u r just supporting some people who want to take a right that doesnt belong to them, a land that doesnt belong to them
You can stop right there. I'm a Baha'i. My family has been Baha'i for 5 generations, and I think it was horrible for Israel to displace Palestinians. Of course everyone deserves their rights. That's the whole point. So, you just belittled my religion and you think THAT'S okay. But we aren't talking about Israel or Palestine. You're avoiding the fact that Egypt is denying rights to minorities in their country, and that is WRONG.
Do you know anything about the Baha'i faith? I'm being totally serious and do not mean to disrespect. But if you did know anything about the Baha'i Faith and it's teachings, I don't think you'd be saying that.
I think it would be good for you to read up on the basic teachings of the Faith. That way, you wouldn't say things that are so far from the truth.
Free Egypt from dictators and tyrants from with in and from out. US and Israel would try and block Egyptians being free cos a good goverment for Egypt is a bad goverment for them. Freeom comes with Justice not the freedom with no justice.
PalestineCitizen2009 9 months ago
sry for dbl post
aaronlee75 11 months ago
The point was a political/social problem...religions there were not treated equally. I hope there will be changes that correct this with the coming change of government.
*Concerning the differences in religion: "Surely pure religion is for Allah only. ...Lo! Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ." and "No laden soul will bear another's burden." (Surah 39:3 &7)
*Point...God judges right/wrong with religions, not us. Let citizens be equal in rights regardless.
aaronlee75 11 months ago
The point was a political/social problem...religions there were not treated equally. I hope there will be changes that correct this with the coming change of government.
*Concerning the differences in religion: "Surely pure religion is for Allah only. ...Lo! Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ." and "No laden soul will bear another's burden." (Surah 39:3 &7)
*Point...God judges right/wrong with religions, not us. Let citizens be equal in right regardless.
aaronlee75 11 months ago
Cheap propaganda. Egypt has been the graveyard for many tourists in the past, and now is definitely not a time to visit.
BoussaFeBazr 11 months ago
"As successors of the current revolution, we must take our place as soldiers of justice to rebuild our country and revive its status as a respected nation with a 10,000 year history. And cleaning up corruption in the maritime tourism industry is crucial to the recovery of Egypt's economy," stated Maritime Law Advocate, Said Mamdouh. (+20 10 193 0333) (To open URL remove spaces and replace DOT) prlog DOT org / 11296044
Aishah41902 11 months ago
I am a Muslim Egyptian and I and all of my Muslim and Christian friends are against that. The second article of the constitution must be changed and the religion field should be removed from the national ID. Thanks for the movie, it gives a chance for other ppl to think about it and support the removal of the religion field. Good job!
elkhial 1 year ago 3
i dont know the way you talk about egypt
but i love my country and all who come here know the love environment
and the wonderful smile from all egyptians
vivia egypt
long live egypt
عاشت مصر
mido451988 1 year ago
Attention aux touristes car l'egypte a tjrs des attentats comme cette jeune française tueé y a un an aux reveillon par un tir de grenade ou comme ces touristes tué a sharm echeick ou Assouan,caire et autres. Ne depensez pas votre argent pour riquez d'etre tuer en Egypte. c une possibilité grande.
frankeur 1 year ago
Egypt tourist the best place because it is a wonderful country and have the greatest civilization in the exciting and very beautiful
el4lcom 1 year ago
This is a little outdated, though. In August 2009, two Baha'i Egyptians did win the right in court to have their religion left blank on their identity cards.
KhalidPaul 1 year ago
please, can you stop fighting?
how do you know that european or american way is good? 'cause you belong there? i was many times in egypt and i'm turning back at list twice a year. in my country we used to say that the rich is not that one who have everything but the one who feel that is enough what he has. we in "western world" lost it. that satisfaction, greed is too big, like an endless hole. that's why i'm coming back again and again. to find that peace.and everything else.egypt rules!
paperce 1 year ago
Who wants to go there anyway? I have been a few times and all I got out of it was a scorpion sting, sand in my shoes, robbed and the shits.
HaligonianType1 1 year ago
A religion does not have to be accepted as logical in order for it's members to be granted human rights. Most western people (wrongly) consider Islam to be illogical, and yet they allow Mosques to be built and grant human rights to Muslims.
danieldemol 1 year ago
Bravo so proud of you for defending the rights of Baháís. More power to you.
yohedayyo 2 years ago 2
ok like any country in the world you view your religion to the government and it accept it or not it depends on the religion like Islam in most European countries wasn't accepted the accepted so if its logic we'll accept it
worldcomander 2 years ago
lol.. religion..
69SwamiG69 2 years ago
حقهم ...أصلان المفروض الدين يتشال من على البطاقة، أنا مش فاهم إيه لازمته أصلان عل بطاقة
EgyptianMasry1919 2 years ago 5
yala yabn el metnaka men hena 3ashan ana law shoftak 7atala3 talata mayteen cos omak yabnel 3ars
marwaneldib 2 years ago
and is there any human being on the planet now or has there really ever been that can prove that any religion are the truth? I think the answer is no. THEY ARE ALL MAN MADE PEOPLE ! JUST LIKE SANTA CLAUSE AND THE EASTER BUNNY, BUT AT LEAST NOONE HAS EVER KILL OR DIED FIGHTING FOR THE EASTER BUNNY OR SANTA. RELIGION OF ANY KIND JUST LEAVES ME COLD.
delvechick 2 years ago 3
What are you talking about, just yesterday I killed an entire family of Jews for not believing in Santa Claus.
!SARCASM!
SteveMcracken 2 years ago
Islam recognizes only Judaism and Christianity as religions, the other religions are clearly branded as a "man-made religion", therefore they must be banned, period.
Secular1000 2 years ago
hehe, its really funny that you are secular and saying this bullshit, according to your logic I think Islam should be banned in Christian countries because Christianity doesn't recognize Islam :-D
elegator911 2 years ago
This is not my logic, but Islam's logic.
I didn't take a stand here.
Secular1000 2 years ago
that advertise isn't the real one .the real one don't talk about religions.
youssef5671 2 years ago
They can thank their REIGION for that, sorry, you'll get no sympathy from me:(
AvestA
AvestAdesigns 2 years ago
i love EGYPT
Egyptahotep 2 years ago 2
lol you want Egypt to change its law for 65 ppl that ridicules
worldcomander 2 years ago
Ah religion and nationalism...
What a combo.
Gotta love the human race...
tovadaq 2 years ago
once more
Fuck bahaism
Fuck zionism
and Fuck America
salgado862002 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
and fuck islam too ;P
elegator911 2 years ago
And you wonder why your country is a shit hole.
Loganton 2 years ago
Bahais..im sorry. you guys need to get over it because guess what? Muslims dont even accept other MUSLIMS. Shias and sunnis barely get along and u expect the society to accept a brand new religion thats less than 200 years old??when these societies cant even accept each other? a person from medina still treats a person from riyadh differently even though theyre the same religion. and u think that bahais will be accepted easily? GET OVER IT. I wish they can, but this is not reality, okay?
nashenas786 2 years ago
i really couldn't belive wt i just saw.
kapaka2001 2 years ago
i have just cancelled my vacation to Egypt, because of the pigs question
wageningen08 2 years ago
het zijn maar varkens.
tamertarek 2 years ago
do u mean beggers?
youssef5671 2 years ago
Absolutely genious video.
DietseGeus 2 years ago
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IF you are not Muslim or Christian, maybe jew lol you cannot expect rights
the only thing u can expect is my feet in ur ass :D lool
THATS MUSLIM CRISTIAN COUTNRY GO FK UR SELF AND WORSHIP UR SHIT AWAY OR U CAN COME WORSHIP MY DICK ;)
hackingmachine 2 years ago
that's probably the most retarded comment i read within the last 24 hours
heidji 2 years ago 2
bah's are invited to come suck my (huge) d i c k
and you can invite ur ba2i monkey friends also
hackingmachine 2 years ago
CLICK FLAG
ON THIS VEDIO
hackingmachine 2 years ago
NO U FLAG THIS ALONE LOL
heidji 2 years ago
Shut up u Monkey Kos omen omak yabn el zanya
go fuck ur self or go fk ur mum
hackingmachine 2 years ago
NO U
heidji 2 years ago
why u want to flag that video
youssef5671 2 years ago
yehy can leave it blank now!
omaranasr 2 years ago
bah's in egypt A few dozen people..
sweetashraf 2 years ago
a couple of ten thousands..
heidji 2 years ago
Try to check before replying, cuz that issue was already solved by an the the egyptian supreme court at 16 march 2009, as the court decision was that the religion can be left blank in the ID, and the Egyptian minister of interior issued a Ministerial decision to allow anyone to leave his religion blank in the ID.
kingabso 2 years ago
Great, JUSTICE! But it's still revolting. It took a 5yr legal BATTLE to get some basic dignity, and MORE than 8yrs in this situation. 8 YEARS, that's like the entire life of a child! Turns out the ministry of interior itself was behind the whole thing. Still makes me wanna puke. And u should too instead of thinking all's fine. How are those people gonna get back the YEARS wasted now? How?
Truthble 2 years ago
i didnt say that its fine, i just said that this is a solved issue, so there is no need to discuss it.
kingabso 2 years ago
I TALK about it as long as I feel like it.
If u got a problem with it, u can try revoking my ID or ask me to write down my RELIGION somewhere.
(500 EGP for a new ipod, yeah right)
Truthble 2 years ago
how much does ipod nano and psp cost in egyptian currency
i am travelling to egypt sooner ad i need to buy one
kukillmatic1113 2 years ago
i dont know why did you write this irrelevant comment here instead of sending a message to any egyptian, but anyway the PSP costs about 1400 - 1600 EGP, but the ipod can be anywhere between 500 - 1600 EGP.
kingabso 2 years ago
Fucking fascists! I didn't even check those allegations to see if they're true but i'm already pissed. How can they have an ID card that not only FORCE people to SPECIFY a religion but ALSO doesn't even allow them to choose THEIRS?! That's total Nazi crap!
Makes me wanna puke, which is perhaps what they expect... like some sort of psy weapon
Truthble 2 years ago
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kingabso 2 years ago
luved the video :D enu im a muslim, bas wt if i was living in another country where listing my religion is a must and islam is not listed ??
i will b feeling the same, so, good luck in obtaining all ur rights guys
spikiiii 2 years ago
Now, without a card, you can't get married, can't be born, can't get a job, have no access to education or health insurance, cannot get a passport, cannot rent, cannot do anything. It is not about the card, it is about the rights every citizen is afforded through this card - these Baha'is are true Egyptians. Is this a fair situation to put a citizen who is entitled? Perhaps you say "why don't they lie and just pick one, what does it matter?" Would you put down "male" if you are in fact a woman?
mehranism19 2 years ago
Baha'is weren't getting ID cards because they had to put down one of three religions as their own... Judaism, Christianity or Islam. Now, given that they are none of these three, they asked if at the very least they could just put a "blank" or dash.... but even this was denied. So basically, they had to either lie about their Faith to get a card, or exercise truthfulness and honesty and go without a card.
mehranism19 2 years ago
does enyone know the title of this song?
imsonarked 2 years ago
Omg Chief122 are you fucking retarded?
faitAccomplix 2 years ago
I am sorry, but if you are not Jewish or Christian, you cannot expect rights. A religion that is a few hundewd years old like Islam also should not be counted as an acceptable religion. Even if Egypt is a Muslim country, it wont be in 100 yrs time
Chief122 3 years ago
Fuck Religion.
maximposter 3 years ago
why are bahai people crying about not having (other) on thier ID cards?? i mean bahais doent even play 1 percent in the whole country of egypt alone, please bahai people anser me.
ArabsUnit 3 years ago
So when someone else is a minority in another country, that means they get their human rights trampled on? I'll be honest in saying that I don't know much about Bahais but I believe that this is why they call it BASIC human rights. Now the question is why don't they put their religion on the card?
Is for fear of persecution?
jeddaweeYUL 3 years ago
How is having other on ID cards getting your Human rights trampled on?? at least these guys have access to ID cards in the first place,,,there are millions in Egypt who dont even have birth cirtificates..let alone have ID cards..
ArabsUnit 3 years ago
I think I see what you mean. I was under the impression they couldn't get a card at all. But in this case they do; however, they have to list their religion as "other".
While obviously, not as big of an issue as other human rights violations. You could look at it as violation in the sense of denying someone their identity and heritage that defines who they are as a people. Again, something I'm not aware of so I'll remain looking at it from the outside without knowing the details within.
jeddaweeYUL 3 years ago
Because Bahais number about 2000 in Egypt which means there are more Bahais then Jewish people.
Because it is Egypt's obligation to give the same rights to all its citizens.
Because Bahais pay taxes to the Egyptian government just like any other citizen.
KEngel1021 2 years ago
How about download the video from Youtube?
nhimpu 3 years ago
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Syaelendra 3 years ago
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....sorry this is hilarious.
No for real though that is messed up, however, Bahais need to calm down and focus on being allowed to go to hajj, why are they picking on Egypt? They need to focus on Saudi Arabia.
I LOVE EGYPT!!
nashenas786 3 years ago 4
Bahais don't focus on going on hajj because they are not Muslims. They are a separate religion.
KEngel1021 2 years ago
So?
nashenas786 2 years ago
lol thats a lie in 1998 democracy entered Egypt thus the ppl enoyed more rights until they eventually got the same rights as Americans such as education/health care(but not free) etc........plus they have very nice night clubs;)
josephafg 3 years ago
You're right, you're no good at English so stop trying to type and start learning to read and write. "that is smart question". Maybe you mean "that is a smart question"? You also needed a space between at and least ok. No points for you. Regardless of what is your first language is, English is the universal language so learn it, live it and spell it right at least.
cuhzisedso 3 years ago
"is that as intelligent as your vocabulary will take you?"??????
oh...that IS smart question
atleast that isnt my first language, i dont have to be good at it!
hesha3000 3 years ago
You're right, you're no good at English so stop trying to type and start learning to read and write. "that is smart question". Maybe you mean "that is a smart question"? You also needed a space between at and least ok. No points for you. Regardless of what your first language is, English is the universal language so learn it, live it and spell it right at least.
cuhzisedso 3 years ago
fuck bahai's
hesha3000 3 years ago
shut your bitch ass you skank! F_Kk U!
cuhzisedso 3 years ago
hesha3000 shut your bitch ass you skank! F_Kk U!
cuhzisedso 3 years ago
Fucking stupid bahai's bitches
hesha3000 3 years ago
hesha3000 is that as intelligent as your vocabulary will take you? How hilarious LOL! Go F_Kk yourself ho!
cuhzisedso 3 years ago
Fuck Bahaism
salgado862002 3 years ago
salgado862002 shut the hell up you nincompoop! You don't even possess half the capacity of a monkey's brain or a grain of a squirrel's balls to say something decent and worth reading. Perhaps you should look into spending sometime reflecting on yours and your country's idiocrasy and then come back to comment when your brain does the thinking and not your nuts!
cuhzisedso 3 years ago
WOW, very well done.
Speak truth to power-----
ijamsville97 3 years ago 3
yes is the religiom.cus think only kids of marrige muslim have indification card.but u catolic is soooo diferent,,
eliza1516 3 years ago
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bahais r just stupied ppl and they will never lead coz its a cheap way to make this video and attack the country they live in...go outside-to the west specially USA- and say what u want so then at least u will be only ungrateful
zombiman2000 3 years ago
and why should anyone have to move somewhere because they're different? this is freaken 2008? you want to talk stupidity? read your statement above again (stupied=stupid specially=especially). you wouldn't even pass immigration if you wanted to come to the u.s. so don't waste your time commenting yourself, go get your education on okay? thank you
cuhzisedso 3 years ago 3
:) Forgot my score
GracefulLady19 3 years ago
I for one like the video. I was not aware this was happening in Egypt. We're living in a century of understanding and light...no one should have to fight for the right to exercise their own religious beliefs...these acts are malicious. Thanks for sharing.
GracefulLady19 3 years ago 9
Bahaa is not even a relegion, it is just something bizzare that has no base in any document...it is something created by bunch of ideiots who woke up in the morning deciding to make a relegion.
ahhany 3 years ago
we still have to follow the verse"lakom dinakom waleya deen" and still we have to respect their beliefs not ridicule them.I'm not defending them but I'm with the fact that we should treat them as we want others treat us.
elv2003 3 years ago 7
why is stating your religion should be any different from stating your blod type?
I can find out anyone's religion by knowing his/her name! the problem is not in stating the religion, the real problem is abusing this info.. and that cannot be prevented by eliminating the religion from the ID card!
ngnoah 3 years ago
no comment!!!!
egytta1 3 years ago
appalling! why are you forced to list your religion???? what if you don't have a religion???????
adoheissen 3 years ago 4
Very good question!! ... Can you believe that this is happening in the 21st century???
medhatrafik 3 years ago
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just fucken get rid of the bahai then..
we dont want them in the country..
im proud to have my own egyptian id n e way.. listen as a muslim thank god..
omarb007 3 years ago
wow, how can you sit there and call yourself a muslim? would a real muslim use such profanity? why don't you leave egypt so some fresh air can fill the people's nostrils
cuhzisedso 3 years ago
Why would so many people focus on something so minor such as the creativity of a TV ad, when the greater picture highlights a very urgent and pressing issue?
Egypt spawned so many wondrous creations. Why would a civilisation so rich in history stoop so low so as to mix ones individual right of spiritual practice and belief with politics and chastisement?
Prejudice/racism all stem from one thing. Fear.
Whats so fearful about a faith that preaches the unity of mankind?
Arent we all the same?
kamyad 3 years ago 3
Do you know how much painful to live without civil rights. Bahai's are suffering a lot for their believes. Unfortunately it happens to all new religions in mankind history
amalekhnawi 3 years ago 3
Do you know how much painful to live without civil rights. Bahai's are suffering a lot for their believes. Unfortunately it happens to all new religions in mankind history
amalekhnawi 3 years ago 2
not a big deal there are a lot worse things in other countries
maddinenprimetime 3 years ago
Gotta start somewhere.
MorganMan09 2 years ago 2
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down with bahai and all the other infidel religion! ISLAM is the only true religion!
cairoboy 3 years ago
this statement contradicts the Qu'ran!! One God = One Religion, the Messengers are One, mankind is One, Religions are One. To exalt one above another is to deny the Oneness of God!
adoraburl 3 years ago 3
i kind of want an infidel shirt...
GO CATHOLICS
Emster007 3 years ago
Islam isn't a bad religion but the reason the western world hates it is because of fanatical and ignorant assholes like you come around spreading your irrational beliefs of hatred.
Loganton 3 years ago 5
this is an important topic, however using it in a tourism commercial is stupid nd gay, nd it demotes egypt instead of promoting it...
moustafa69 3 years ago
I love it!!! it's done so well, very clever! its a important topic that needs attention and I think the creators of this clips managed to do just that.
thanks!
cu81sm 3 years ago 2
Sorry, but this video is absolutely hideous.
It is in a bad taste to do such a thing with a successful tourism video.
Lots of greetings to Egypt, see you in summer!
Nikotina05 3 years ago
If you want to promote your ideas post your own video. Don't fake a video that was created to benefit the Egyptian tourism.
meazouz 3 years ago
exactly, especially when the original video is sucha beautiful one
moustafa69 3 years ago
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its a silly and fake vidio
hhrafzfs 3 years ago
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تم التعديل على الفيديو بواسطة واحد عبيط غبي وربنا يهديه
alshemeri 4 years ago
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instead of welcoming people to our country this is what show them?!
I just wonder about the real intentions of whoever created this video!
meazouz 4 years ago
exactly!! wtf was the dumbass who made this thinking??
moustafa69 3 years ago
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its a silly and fake vidio
koollaw 4 years ago
Islam not only recognizes the principle of absolute equality between men irrespective of colour, race or nationality, it makes it an important reality. Almighty Allah has laid down in the Holy Qur'an: "O mankind, we have created you from a male and female." In other words, all human beings are brothers. They all are the descendants from one father and one mother. "And we set you up as nations and tribes so that you may be able to recognize each other" (49:13).
niaz84 4 years ago 4
and all humand should have the right to live eqaully. up until the past couple of yrs i loved eygpt, but what the countrys govermant is doing is just disgusting and unhuman.
niaz84 4 years ago 4
we are still going to be bahais even if the goverment dosent see us as citizens in eygpt. look at india, there is millions of religons living under one country and they all respect each other, so why cant eygpt do the same and respect all humans and what they belive even if the country dosnt belive in the bahai faith they should still respect us as humans.
niaz84 4 years ago 3
i hope eygpt is not following the iranian goverment and what they have done to the bahais and are still doing to the bahais up until this date. takeing away our human rights dosnt effect the beliefs of the bahais.
niaz84 4 years ago 3
As Bahais we love all humanity, including (but not limited to) our Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, Christian, Muslim brothers and sisters.
An important principle of the Bahai Faith is independent search for the truth by the individual, instead of following others. We have no clergy in the Bahai faith. We believe in the equality of women and men, as well as the need for harmony between science and religion.
Essan7 4 years ago 8
Dear friends,
Baha's believe that each manifestation (prophet) of God has come with a divine mesasage to guide humanity for a specific time Period. So Christianity or Islam are not the last religions, neither is the Bahai Faith. God is like a wise physician who, depending on the illness, prescribes a new and different medicine at each era.
As for Baha'u'llah, he was exiled by Muslim authorities to Palestine as a prisoner, where he passed away. Hence his residence there.
Essan7 4 years ago 9
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i did read about what u call a religion and i felt that i waste my time in reading that crap
1 you said that bahai s is very similar to Islam and thats becoz u took Quran and bible and Torah and made a religion
2 your BAHAA ELDIN is the jews best friend thats explain his big palace in palatine and how he encourage by Israelis to spread his idea in the Muslims countries
3 if u believe that all religions are right why don't u be a Muslim or Christian ??
hosniadel 4 years ago
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1 prophet Mohamed didn't call for the UNITY between Muslims and nonmuslim
2 prophet Mohamed is the last Messenger of all ages and i dont know how did u get the word (religion cycle )
3 religions came from one source but with big differences that made by man but the religions i mean is : Islam and Christian and Judaism and Islam thats why we can live with them
hosniadel 4 years ago
(Comment 1 of 3)...
Proof that the Prophet Mohammed *did* come to bring unity "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good)."
- Qur'an 3:85
This translation of verse [3:85] is by the well known scholar ('Abdullah) Yusuf Ali. In his commentary on this verse (note: 418), Mr. Yusuf Ali writes: (continued in next comment...)
PleasantPenguin 4 years ago 3
(Comment 2 of 3)...
" The Muslim position is clear. The Muslim does not claim to have a religion peculiar to himself. Islam is not a sect or an ethnic religion. In its view all Religion is one, for the Truth is one. It was the religion preached by all the earlier prophets. It was the truth taught by all the inspired Books.
PleasantPenguin 4 years ago 4
(Comment 3 of 3)...
In essence it amounts to a consciousness of the Will and Plan of Allah and a joyful submission to that Will and Plan. If anyone wants a religion other than that, he is false to his own nature, as he is false to Allah's Will and Plan. Such a one cannot expect guidance, for he has deliberately renounced guidance. "
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(Please note, this has all been taken from the Quran and from the famous Muslim scholar, Yusuf Ali).
PleasantPenguin 4 years ago 3
This argument doesn't have to center around what's an acceptable faith. The real question is why it's even a government's business!
gary
gdstark 4 years ago 8
Exactly, this is a couple of sentences from article 2 of the human rights document, saying that human rights is for all, regardless of religion:
"Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status... ... ..."
PleasantPenguin 4 years ago 5
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believing in Muhammed as being a Messenger disagree with the existence of another religion because Muhammed is the last Messenger thats what the Quran said and if you believe that the Quran is wrong then u insult every Muslim in that planet not just the Egyptians so if u want to be a bahai get out from our country because this is not a suitable place for your stupid ideas
hosniadel 4 years ago
Muhammad does not disagree with other religions, he came to unite them, he was the last prophet, for that religious CYCLE. You can see that every time a Messenger from God came, the World was in Diar strates.. so he came to unite. He also said that the religions all came from one Source.. Allah, or God. if you believe that what you're saying is correct and it is what Muhammad said then YOU are an insult to every Muslim.
you're a bit of a contradiction.
ShadehR 4 years ago 10
go read about what you call your Faith and you will see that Muhammad wanted UNITY. so by you saying " If you want to be a Bahai get out from our country".. then you're abit of a wolly. and again.. you're very ignorant to say that Bahai's have stupid ideas.. Do your research. Bahai Faith has very very similar Laws to Islam.
Wise up. Dont follow a Religion blindly.
ShadehR 4 years ago 9
How can a religion be built on hate when one of its main aims is the unification of human kind for the progress of all civilisation? Is that really what you would call a 'stupid idea'? and one of the main principles is that all religions are true, and come from the same source - being God - so therefore Baha'is believe in Jesus and Muhammed as being Messengers of God also! If they hated Christianty and Islam, they wouldn't be Baha'is!
VictoriaAandA 4 years ago 8
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bahai religion (the new religion ) is built on hate and it hate Muslims and Christians so we cant live with youre stupid ideas
hosniadel 4 years ago
Haha.. built on HATE?! thats HILARIOUS
do your research love. i think you'll find you are very.. VERY wrong
ShadehR 4 years ago 9
No religion is built on hate- and if so then how is it based on hate because the Baha'i Faith believes in unity, Peace and that all religions are based on the same fundamental principals. Also if its based on hate then why don't the Baha'is in Egypt fight back instead of obeying the laws regardless of how absurd and malicious they are?
Loganton 3 years ago 5
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Egypt rocks! This is propogonda.
tarsam17 4 years ago
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this is so pretentious...who r the bahis neway? they probably are a few hundred..The egyptian identity is Muslim and Christian and jewish is alowed...not some random make-shift faith
kibris123 4 years ago
Lol.. the Bahai Faith is the 2nd most wide spread religion in the world. bit more than a few hundred id say.
ShadehR 4 years ago 12
Actually, more like 6 million. There are a few hundred Bahai's in my community.
MorganMan09 2 years ago
its not a ramdon makeshift faith. do ur homework and find out about something before you make an assumption like that.
Thiorus 4 years ago 16
The five to seven million Baha'is would point out that by allowing only Christian, Moslem and Jew on the ID card, you're also dismissing the billion Buhddists, the several million zoroastrians, the Sikhs, the hundreds of millions of Hindu, the millions of Taoists...
RickBoat 4 years ago 12
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Bahai's are not a recognisable faith
kibris123 4 years ago
...in Egypt, which is the problem here. It has been long recognized by the International Community (i. e. the United Nations and other institutions).
ceci2176 4 years ago 7
Good job!
I really hope the religion field is eliminated in all Government documents. Some heavy lobbying must take place by all Egyptians!
ossBASHA 4 years ago 4
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your point is.....bro egypt is the best place in the world. every body knows that.
7adari 4 years ago
Excellent video. I admire people who fight for the human rights and specially those who support other religious minorities. Thank you so much for your service to the advancement of civilization.
cparvini 4 years ago 11
We should work to stop racism and discrimination everywhere !
Apartheid is no longer the law in South Africa.. one day Egipt will be free from this sort of policies too.
FlavioAzm 4 years ago 11
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another bqahai propogonda
persianmad 4 years ago
What makes you think that?
berrygoodstuff 4 years ago 2
if it was a propaganda then the UN wouldnt become involved!
PleasantPenguin 4 years ago 4
Thank you for getting this out.
laughingmeadow 4 years ago 6
that's sad and how it's going to be in turkey so soon...
deasence 4 years ago 3
so sad...
matin9a 4 years ago 3
well done , good job mate.
mehran9 4 years ago 7
Thank you
sarmast 4 years ago 6
cleverly put together
samzamir 4 years ago 8
Keep up the GREAT job!!!! Good people have to at least say something about injustices and you guys are doing this. It is amazing how in this age people still have not learned to respect the right to freedom of belief. I understand if they were like that 1000 years ago even 100 but NOW!!! What is going on people?
radiantmelody 4 years ago 20
ohhh
do u respect the rights of the blacks and latino...do u respect the rights of Iraq and Afghanistan
fuck u
fuck u all
u have a huge number of nukes and u r not allowing northern korea to have one
what kind of justice is that
fuck u all.....u silly selfish, arogant people
salgado862002 2 years ago
Hey, most people here DO care about human rights for everyone. The fact that Egypt is denying rights to certain groups is just as unjust as any of the things you listed. But one thing: Kim Jon Il isn't North Korea. He is a dictator who lives in extreme wealth while his people are starving to death. Why the hell would you let him make a nuclear bomb?
MorganMan09 2 years ago
Wow....That's horrible...
MorganMan09 4 years ago 8
plus bahaism
is not just a religion.....bahaism is a political maneouver , it's a card Israel is using for pressure...for creating distablization in egypt....bahaists are not seeking a religious freedom, they r seeking to get Israel inside our country
all the bahai organizations are located in Israel, and financed by them.....so stop whatever the fuck u think u r doing
coz u r just supporting some people who want to take a right that doesnt belong to them, a land that doesnt belong to them
salgado862002 2 years ago
You can stop right there. I'm a Baha'i. My family has been Baha'i for 5 generations, and I think it was horrible for Israel to displace Palestinians. Of course everyone deserves their rights. That's the whole point. So, you just belittled my religion and you think THAT'S okay. But we aren't talking about Israel or Palestine. You're avoiding the fact that Egypt is denying rights to minorities in their country, and that is WRONG.
MorganMan09 2 years ago
@salgado862002
Do you know anything about the Baha'i faith? I'm being totally serious and do not mean to disrespect. But if you did know anything about the Baha'i Faith and it's teachings, I don't think you'd be saying that.
I think it would be good for you to read up on the basic teachings of the Faith. That way, you wouldn't say things that are so far from the truth.
much love :)
xtinct2 2 years ago 4
BULL SHITTTTT
samielf 2 years ago