Ok these ladies , and the groups of days gone by paved the road for so many artist, so listen to the lyric, and the music, hell people this was before all the high tech microphones etc... priceless. Maybe that is why today's artist once in a while will record these older songs.... because they are priceless... We just can't get enough. Music the language of the world..
Ooops! This is sounds of the city 1967 and you should know Florence Ballard when you see/hear her, She is right here, By the way she would be the Founding member of the group. Mary Wilson is enchanting as are all of them.
diana was the supremes period,mary and flo were what they were,just back up singers,diana took them to mega fame and wealth and mary and flo should of been gratefull to miss diana for giving them a chance,but what did that slimeball mary do stab diana in the back out of sheer jealousy,diana ross has been a superstar for over 50 years and her music will live on when shes left this earth and mary will be forgotten.
jdpatterson100, you only wish you could be half what Mary Wilson was and is! She could not help being more beautiful and talented than Diana Ross.Do something constructive with yourself, instead of hating her for her looks and natural glamour, try to be like her. I doubt if you could, but you can at least try!
jdpatterson100, you only wish you could be half what Mary Wilson was and is! She could not help being more beautiful and talented than Diana Ross.Do something constructive with yourself, instead of hating her for her looks and natural glamour, try to be like her. I doubt if you could, but you can at least try!
Isn't it hard to believe that they were all 23 years old? Well, okay, Cindy was two months shy of 28...LOL (they kept the age difference hidden) How elegant and professional for such young ladies!
ooweee....talk about bitter people. Why all this bickering over Mary and Diana? Heck I did that years ago, got older and am over it. I am appreciating these ladies today more than ever because we are losing so many heros in music. Damn it, stop the nonsense and enjoy them. They made history and still are doing their thing each woman accomplishing goals that goes beyond the Supremes. All kudos to the Supreme ladies, all 8 of them.
Nothing against Cindy Birdsong, great performer and background singer, but she was no Florence Ballard!!! RIP Florence Ballard!!! Plus here you can tell Diana Ross is really feeling herself as the group headliner, as if now Flo is gone from the group, now she could really shine, plus she had BG in her corner!!
I like this performance but how is this when they became a superstar group. If anything this is when Diana Ross was being pushed in front of the group by Berry Gordy to become a superstar. They only had 2 more number 1 hits after this and only Diana sang on them.
If you Need to believe that, to give your" I hate Diana Ross" Career Meaning, go ahead, It's doesn't change the Fact Miss Mary watched 4 Million Dollars go down The Shitter, & ended up Opening for Joey Heatherton at The Ramada Inn later that Month,. Miss Mary's "Power" will no doubt end with her 2nd Bankruptcy soon
look at the state of ross. should ave a bag over er ed.the beauty of mary and cindy . why was the ugly sister there,she spoilt the song its only the two others that keep the old love going.
manohmanohmanohman. ALL this negative energy towards people you REALLY don't know. MOTOWN, DR&THE SUPREMES gave me MORE than great music and performances. to this day, next to JESUS CHRIST, the most INSPIRATIONAL entities of my life. the BAR is SO HIGHHH. STILL reaching to B!
I hear that they( Hollywood ) are casting for someone to play Linda Lovelace. Can anyone come up with a Damsel to play lead? Oh, what about Mary(slurp,gag burp )Wilson?surely she can get even the Biggest bone to fit into her gullet with room to spare ;-0 !!! Forgive me, maybe there is a more befitting roll for her... Sling-Blade pt.2 lmao !! PEACE2U all....
The only thing that has kept Mary in the tiniest glimmer of limelight for the last 30 years has been her showing her stupidity and bitterness whilst inadvertently trashing her own legacy by constantly trashing Diana Ross. I know who I feel is the real bitch of The Supremes and it isn't Diana. Even Flo is on record as saying she would always rather deal with Diana than Mary because Diana 'shot from the hip' and that she knew where she stood with her. Whereas Mary was sneak and a back stabber.
@SuperSeahorse22 The Image of "The Supremes" is Tarnished beyond repair, it started in 1986 with The Publication of The Bitter, Self Serving & Manipulted Memiores of a Bankrupt Supreme with a Bad Cocaine Habit & a Need for Cash, The Death Nail came in 1999 when The same Bitter Grandiose Supreme decided to put another Knife into the back of The woman most responsible for Lifting her Ass out of the Ghetto to begin with
@kurtsupreme Miss Mary Wilson Barely has enough `Power` to get that Big Black Ass of hers on that Electric Scooter every month & Pick up her 5Lb Block of Government Cheese & Social Security Cheque
@TheReturnOfBigBear Why are you so jealous of Mary Wilson? Did she reject you when you tried out for one of the latter day Supremes? Don't you know the Supremes were always three talented, gorgeous Black Women? Not two gorgeous talented Black Women and one fat, hairy slob of jerk white guy calling himself Bear! Get over it an or start your own group!
Why don't you take your ridiculous comments, and self and go hibernate?I won't dignify anymore of these aburd comments with an answer. I hope no one else does either. Thank you and have a wonderful, happy day!
@aimperator Thats Brilliant, Jealous of Mary Wilson!, Yes, I wish to follow in her Shadow Cocaine Addiction, Bankruptcy & Herpes Really Appeal to me! LOL!!!! & Diana Ross is Desparate to Open for Slim Whitman on a Tour of Bolivia, No Flies on You aimperator, You're the Sharpest Knife in the Drawer!
@DetroitLives313 You got my Number Detroit!, Whew, you're a smart one!, Silly me, I thought you were just trying to signal aimperator to Help you try to defend Miss Mary's No Talent , Backstabbing Ass,
I think you should watch the video again. Not one time do the two beautiful Supremes clap their hands. It would have improved the video immensely, if they had stepped in front of Diana Ross though!
@aimperator I must say I'm so Sorry, I never realized The Blonde Nympho was a "Triple Threat", Humming, Finger Snapping & Hand Clapping! Yes your Absolutely Right, Move her Up Front & Showcase those Abilities!
Everytime I watch this video it gets better and better. Mary Wilson gets more and more gorgeous each time, the gowns they wore were fabulous, of course on Diana Ross it looked like a nightgown, on her skinny stick figure everything did. The supremes are 100% of this video, without them it would be nothing. Bigbear, why did you have to return at all? We are better off without you.
The history of The Supremes is very well documented. The videos are there for the world to remember or discover what consumate performers they were. Beauty, talent and class defined all 3 of them FOREVER. No amount of cheap slander from a couple of mentally retarded individuals can change that history.
Oh Miss "Ramller" The Self Declared "Former Model" Herself, I knew it was just a Matter of Time before you Hit The Cat walk again, If you think Miss Mary is "Georgeous", you must have ben ONE UGLY Model yourself, If you think That Duplicitous, Backstabbing Parasite has Any Class, you must have been raised, by some Tribal Culture in The Rain Forest, Thats all for now, I will be back later to read yours & Miss Mary's menu's
@TheReturnOfBigBear THE ONLY SKIN TAG HERE IS YOU... YOU HATE BECAUSE YOU NEVER GOT THE CLASS AND TALENT THAT ALL THE SUPREMES HAD INCLUDING GORGEOUS MISS WILSON.... DON'T BLAME ANYBODY FOR YOUR "BAD LUCK"...
Let us all stop with the negative, nasty comments and accept the facts: The Supremes enjoyed 24 Top Twenty hits between 1964 and 1972 (half of those went to Number One!)--a record that has YET to be superceded by any girl group.
Their Ed Sullivan DVD peaked at #8 in weekly DVD sales last month!
The first girl group to be inducted in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame!
And why was this group ranked #97 on the Rolling Stones Top 100 Artists chart?!
LOL!!!!, GORGEOUS, Yeah Right, Horny & In Need a Scratching Post is more like it, As for you BellaBitch, Those who forget the Past are Bound to repeat it, Thats why Miss Mary has never Evoloved into anything but a Opening Act for Debbie Boone & Lola Falana
@raremark I AGREE. MARY HAS SUCH A CHARISMATIC STAGE PRESENCE AND MAKES THE CHOREOGRAPHY SEEM EASY, ALMOST SECOND NATURE. Don't get me wrong. All three ladies are AWESOME but on this particular performance Mary shines.
And by the way DetroitLives313, As far as `Being Ugly`` goes, Have you taken a Good Look " Miss Mary`s Mexican Chin Implant`Lately, She looks Like Jay Leno with a $6.00 Wig
@TheReturnOfBigBear Do you all ever notice how "Big Bear" declares himself to be a "silly Ross as a solo act" fan; however, he always returns to the sites of the LEGENDARY trio. In addition to his other "closeted" activities, I believe that he is SECRETLY a fan of the LEGENDARY SUPREMES and that is why he calls himself the "Return of Big Bear"..................because he always "returns" to see Diane in her prime when she was a part of something bigger and greater than herself, THE SUPREMES!
I don't understand why Mary and Cindy are so shallow. It wasn't all about money. After all, how much does Mary make in 6 months or so on her own. And in the future they won't be able to tour together no matter how much they want to. Mary and Cindy will be saying, "Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda", while Diana Ross has always said," I can, and I did."
Following the 2 vile and defamatory reviews, which were nothing less than a personal attack on Diana Ross last week, read the Worcester Telegram review for The Hanover Theatre by Richard Duckett...GOOGLE IT!
Headlined:
'DIANA ROSS' STAR POWER IGNITES THE HANOVER"
MISS MARY THING, TWTR and your multiple YT accounts will be "FOAMING AT THE MOUTH"...."EAT YOUR HEART OUT"....**IF** YOU CAN FIND IT!!
SCREW YOU, If not for Diana Ross, Berry Gordy, Motown, HDH & The Funk Brothers, Miss Mary's Massive Ass would Still be Stuck in The Brewster Projects, On her own she's accomplished NOTHING, Except a Bankruptcy, Cocaine Addiction & a Hand Out from Diana Ross
@TheReturnOfBigBear Diana opened wide for Berry Gordy and everyone in the World knows it so you look and sound like a fool trying to make her out to be better than she is. She opened wide and that is how she got the lead spot. Without the Supremes she would not be shit and the Supremes were Mary Wilson, Florence Ballard and later on Cindy Birdsong. Oh and she is ugly!
@DetroitLives313 Well, "Shit 4 Brains", Your Dear Friend Miss Mary Opened Wide for just about Every, TOM, FLIP & Harry she could Find. Didn't she also send Naked Pictures of Herself to "Clive Davis"?, In a Vain Attempt to Secure a Recording Contract for her NO TALENT ASS, As Far Flo goes, She was Talented, but Where was she, when "My World is Empty Without You Recorded? (Off Sick), As for Cindy & Miss Mary, Where were they when "Love Child" & "Someday We'll be Together" Recorded?, NOT NEEDED !
OHHHH SCREW ALL OF YOU MARY HATERS...FLO STARTED THE GROUP WITH MARY DAMN IT!! MARY BROUGHT DI IN AND ASKED FLO TO INCLUDE HER...AND THAT BITCH STARTED FUCKING BARRY AND USED THAT TO MAKE HERSELF THE FOCUS!!! PERIOD. WHEN FLO SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING SHE WAS UNDERSTANDABLY PISSED!! FUCK DI...yes, she had her time...but she fucked her friends over for FAME AND FORTUNE...SHE MESSED UP HER OWN IMAGE!
tinaine & rameller, You Girls need to get yourselves a room, Get Naked & Rub yourselves all over Miss Mary's Trashy Book, That piece of Fiction (Like Miss Mary Herself) is Long Forgotten
Miss Mary has NEVER disputed or attempted any Legal action against either source, so just deal with it bellacharo, Your Hero is a Bitter, Jealous, Duplicitous Bitch
This Little tid bit of Information came to life when Cindy Birdsong contacted the R & R Hall of Fame, after the Induction of "Temptations" (when non Original Members were also included in the ceremony), She was told, Miss Mary had "Threatend" to decline the award "If Non Original" Members were included in the Induction, (Flo was Dead, Diana would Never attend because Mary had just published her book 18 months before) So Miss Mary basked in the Limelight alone
@TheReturnOfBigBear Oh! This story about the R&R Hall of Fame came from those books?? If I had to believe the bad things written in those books about Mary, I'd have to believe all the nasty things they wrote also about Diana and the other ladies also. Consecuently, I don't beleive any of it and I guarantee that the whole induction story was fabricated unless I get a signed affidavit from an official at the R&R Hall of Fame.
@TheReturnOfBigBear Oh really? And you got that juicy gossip from Miss Birdsong herself? However Mary was not alone that night since Flo's girls were there too invited by Mary's request.
@TheReturnOfBigBear Oh really? And you got that juicy gossip from Miss Birdsong herself? However Mary was not alone that night since Flo's girls were there too invited by Mary's request.
Once again, you must be Educated Miss rameller, It is a Well known Fact that Miss Mary Blocked Cindy Birdsong's Induction (as a Supreme) into The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Cindy has said this & it was verified by Tony Turner (Miss Mary's Former Road Manager) in his Book, Fuck rameller, Do some Homework, I like to Learn things on these Blogs
Diana was actually willing to take a Salary REDUCTION to do the RTL Tour, She passed on any sort of Salary Guarantee but every other Supreme was covered, no matter if the tour succeeded or Failed, Diana agreed to a Percentage of Gross, widely expected to be less than her standard fee @ The Time, Do your Homework tinaine
Another little Bit of News, you might like to know, When 'The Supremes" were Inducted into The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Mary Wilson threatened to "Boycott" the Ceremony if "Cindy Birdsong was Included
@TheReturnOfBigBear ANOTHER FALSEHOOD! Do you know where you're going to? Do you like the things that life is showing you? Obviously NOT! But don't blame it on Mary or anybody. You have chosen evil so it's your own problem.
@TheReturnOfBigBear According to you Mary has a lot of power if she can actually make demands on places such as The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. I didn't know she was so POWERFUL. Thanks for the info.
@bellachelito mary did have a little power back in the late 80's as she was basking in the glory of hating on diana. for a fleeting megasecond she had some power. she used it for sure. then, washed up again, forgotten until 1999/2000 when she whinged, whined and lied her way into the public eye again. mary works but she is not in the same superstar mode as diana.
Let me see, You began to admire Miss Mary in 1999, That would make you 11 Years old, I'm sure you knew everything that happend During Negotiations between SFX (The Promoter) & All of "The Supremes?, I suggest you look into the Details on what Actually Happend & not what you Assumed as an 11 year Old
@TheReturnOfBigBear When you say "what actually happened" you mean what YOU THINK HAPPENED...right? When is YOUR BOOK coming out? Ooops! I'm sorry. I forgot you couldn't write English properly. Hey! That's an idea! Why don't you make good use of your time and join some adult education center where you can learn how to spell and some writing skills?
@tinaine1 I Doubt Arthur Fogel has anything to Lose or Gain by releasing the Details of Negotiations for SFX, You seem to Want to believe the Worst when it comes to Diana Ross, As for grammer?, It's a Blog, Fool, I'm not going to Sweat anything I write on here, or Spell Check it Either, Frankly, I could care less What the Hell you Think about Anything, The fact remains, SFX thought 1 Million Dollars was More Than Fair for Miss Mary, When she became THE ONLY OBSTRUCTION to the RTL Tour (Con't)
@TheReturnOfBigBear - Diana Ross encouraged SFX to go back to Mary with a More Generous Offer, By this Time, Mary Had Convinced Cindy, they should "Negotiate Together", SFX, Doulbled the Offer to Mary, (2 Million Dollars), after Miss Mary Turned her Nose up @ That offer, Diana took 2 Million of HER OWN MONEY & offered Miss Mary 4 Million Dollars, Miss Mary never Responded to the Offer, of Bothered to ask for 1 Cent more for Cindy Birdsongs Participation
BigBear: the ONLY OBSTRUCTION to the RTL came from Diva-In-Distress Ross who after years of solo super stardom and of minimizing The Supremes legacy, all of the sudden wanted to cash in on the name Supremes. Her idea of a "reunion tour" was not shared by Wilson & Birdsong and both ladies refused all offers since they thought it was more important to have creative input into the shows. In other words they refused to be Diana's props in a tour that would exploit The Supremes name.
BigBear: the ONLY OBSTRUCTION to the RTL came from Diva-In-Distress Ross who after years of solo super stardom and of minimizing The Supremes legacy, all of the sudden wanted to cash in on the name Supremes. Her idea of a "reunion tour" was not shared by Wilson & Birdsong and both ladies refused all offers since they thought it was more important to have creative input into the shows. In other words they refused to be Diana's props in a tour that would exploit The Supremes name.
What ever you say rameller, Miss Mary would Give her Left Tit to have that 4 Million Dollar offer back on the Table again, I'd bet my 2 Testicles she would trip over herself to Ooh & Ahh now!, Too Late, Too Bad, So Sad
@TheReturnOfBigBear The way you express yourself and the language you use shows what kind of trash you are. I'm sure that if Miss Ross or any of The Supremes see you coming they'd call the cops on you. I'm leaving you in your filthy habitat trapped in a world that's a distorted reality while I'm moving along into something beautiful like watching again this magnificent performance by the world's greatest trio.
Tinaine, you are so right. Mary told the truth and tried to be as diplomatic about it as she could. She didn't just push blame on others, she took some o the responsibility herself, especially when it came to Flo problems, but there was only so much you can do when someone doesn't want to help themselves.
Diana Ross left Motown in 1981 with 250k, far less than Miss Mary made off her "Diana Dearest" Book, In 1999 Diana offered Miss Mary 4 Million Dollars for 3 Months of Ooh's & Ahh's, Diana doesn't OWE anyone Anything, Miss Mary still recieves Royalties from "Supremes" songs (some she never even sang on), An Income of 100k per year, What Senior wouldn't be Happy with & Grateful for That Alone?
@TheReturnOfBigBear I began respecting and admiring Miss Wilson for refusing 3 months of Ooh's & Ahh's behind out of control diva. I mean 4 Million is a lot of money but Miss Wilson showed guts, self respect and, most important, respect for The Supremes legacy and for the fans. In reference to the royalties that bother YOU so much, she certainly deserves them since her image was used to sell those recordings and she sang them live numerous times on stages and TV.
Miss Mary has No Talent to Rob?, She has been "Out of The Clutches" of The Evil Motown Empire" for over 34 Years, Why has No One Else Tapped into this Huge Bundle of Talent?
I would really like to read a "Vandella" book, Far More Interesting, Martha Reeves was known to Beat the Piss out of the Girls on Occassion, between her stays in the Mental Asylem, LOL!!!, Miss Mary seems to think she had it so bad, She needs to take a walk in the Pumps of a Vandella!
The problem is Miss Mary, no doubt, has Much more Scandal & Skeletons in her Closet than Diana, But people either don't know who she is or care, so @ some point it becomes extortion
@TheReturnOfBigBear You are wildly exagerating. I think all this BS about Mary's books being exposes of Diana was started by Mary (to sell of course), the media caught on and embelished it; then Diana's fans took it to the max. I've read Mary's books TWICE looking for Diana bashing and don't find anything worthwhile except the Motown 25 push. I keep hearing that Mary never mentioned in her books that she had borrowed money from Diana but IT IS THERE... I've read it.
Miss Mary's Book has No More Cedability than any other Book written, probably less, being that she had Gone Bankrupt not long before the release of the book & was in need of Cash, Smut & Sensationalism Sells
BigBear THAT'S YOUR OWN PERSONAL OPINION. Mine is that Mary's books are objective, restrained and in good taste. There's so much smut she could have written about but she didn't obviously respecting everybody's privacy including Diana's.
@tinaine1 yes, mary could have devestated Dian'as imnage with tales of doctor visits, midnight meetings with men and othjer rumors involving berry and his various strange requests from his partner miss ross, but whether from fear or loyality, she choose to just report the basic truths. that turned out to be enough to destroys both diana's image and her recording sucess.
@etrax2000And do you honestly believe that Diana couldn't have written VOLUMES in her own book about the antics,perversions,substance abuses & laziness of Mizz Wilson?Do you really believe that that Wilson thing is some kind of saint? She's as guilty as the next...even more so with her "oh-I'm-so-sweet-and-lovely, but-turn-your-back-for-a-second-and-I'll-plunge-the-knife-in-as-deep-as-I-can" persona.The woman is clearly a jealous, self centred, talentless bitch. Yes Diana could have said PLENTY!
@ParaFacSub I read Diana's bok. it is the only book in the history of my readings where i actually considered going back to the book store and asking for my money back. there was almost nothing in it of any substance. be honest. What do you remember of that book, let me see, Diana in Africa almost being robbed but her "fame " saved her as the would be robbers recognized her.
@ParaFacSub A line from the book, "Sometimes they talked about me behind my back, others right to my face. that is about all I recall from Ms Ross. many people found the book to be lifeless, devoid of any substance or content. Only her own imagined injustices in the world.That . I am afraid is what has guided Miss Ross throughout her career, a desire to get revenge on the world for all the hurts she may or may have expierenced from others growing up regardless of their importance or justice.
@ParaFacSub i don't believe that mary is jealous. Envious yes, no doubt and quite misguided about her own "Talents" and lack of opportunities to receive accolades. She (Mary) has had countless chances to shine and has managed to just flicker here and there. No where near Diana's star power.Mary is no saint as anyone who has bothered to delve into her relationships with the Hollywod sewers in the seventies. preety shocking stories if even partially true.,
@etrax2000 I'm sorry but I don't agree. Mary is blatantly jealous of Diana.It's the only place where she truly "shines". Her books, her interviews, all scream "I'm a jealous bitch". I don't understand how she can claim that she *LOVES** Diana and yet wrote such dirt about her. Let me ask you a question: regardless of fame, would YOU write a book full of venomous comments about someone YOU profess to love? For no amount of money would I do that regardless of the amount of money I'd make from it.
@etrax2000Thousands of artists(lead singers,backing vocalists,musicians,producers, actors etc)could write volumes so as to rubbish someone they "love" and yet choose NOT to,simply bc they have more dignity.Mary's books are full of pettinesses and childish "I'm going to tell Miss on you" stories. People of the US got taken in by it all.Other people around the world (esp in the UK) read between the lines and read "jealous bitch", or just didn't care about the rantings of a 2nd rate backing singer!
@ParaFacSub LOL!, I agree with you, A lifetime to get here was a Good Read, It was the First Book that actually seemed to make sense to me, Interesting was the Honesty in the book. Marvin Gaye has had No Problem admitting he was Jealous of Diana, but goes out of his way to be Fair, saying she worked Her Ass Off & deserved every bit of the Glory she recieved, Gil Askey also expressed the same thoughts, Too Bad Miss Mary won't acknowlege Certain Facts, Her "Memories" are Self Serving" @ Best
@ParaFacSub perhaps people in Brittain are more enamored with the Glitter of royalty than the substance that causes it to shine when compared to others. Diana and berry and the Motown machine robbed many of their talents , dignity and inherited weath. so many died and have become lost in the transition from MOTOWN FAMILY to coporate "TOUGH LUCK !
@etrax2000 Most people in the UK dont give a fuck about the royal family despite how it might seem to outsiders. Maybe its just that people of America get swallowed in too easily and dont read between the lines when people write rubbish like that Wilson thing did. And maybe most of those artists at Motown didn't have what it took to carry themselves into superstardom...its always easy to blame others for shortcomings...and that includes Mary Wilson!
@ParaFacSub he offered no financial support in teaching them the how to's of business. Only when they started to ask questions, were they then droped from the company or set upon by legal hacthet men. this pratice continued long into the 1990's. it was standard motown operations.. miss Ross found herself in the same predicament, but surely faired better than most .yet offered no help to anyone, on how to triumph financially
@ParaFacSub when she loaned money to mary &Cindy; she had them pay her back with interest.. Mary ? a person with great delusions about her talent and misplaced opportunities, Miss Ross, ? she got what she got and didn'tn't blame or praise anyone but her self. i believe that is how she wished to be remembered. make that wishes as I believe that she is still alive somewhere .
@etrax2000 Wasn't really referring to the brit Royal family ,but just the Glitterai of the world in general. Now we have been bombarded by brit socialites who have purchased beverly Hills mansions and we are now expecxted to give a s###. I ,for one do not.Most people who attack Motown and bery Gordy do so concernng the vast disparages in income that he delt to his "money making" artist. they generated millions and wound up with very little or even nothing,
@ParaFacSub but Diana has legions of haters who know her for what she really is beneath the gltiter, In fact that should be the next title of a book on the "TRUE LIVES OF MISS ROSS." with so many Supremes' anniversities coming in 2014, I don't doubt the knives are being sharpened at this very moment.
@ParaFacSub Diana actually did sign on to write a "Tell All" book a few years ago, but decided against it, Why go out and Retaliate, Trashing Someone else?, She has usually taken the High Road & chose to again, Most of her "Dirt" has been Published Over & Over Again, It all amounts to a Fart in a Wind Storm, I have more Scandal in My Life than her! (Most People do) we are just not Famous (Like Mary Wilson) so no one pays any attention
@TheReturnOfBigBear Most people who didnt enjoy Diana's book only DIDN'T bc she didn't fill it with the dirty gossip & tidbits they wanted to read.I loved the book: it gave me an insight into her own world withOUT trashing the people who put her down.Other than her own book,the closest I've come to knowing the REAL DR is "A Lifetime To Get Here".
Indeed Mary may well have had chances to shine,but without a spark there's no flame,and there's never been a spark in her "talent" as far as I can see!
@etrax2000 Do you really think that Mary's books destroyed Diana's image and recording career? I doubt it. Diana antics have worked more against her than any Wilson book. Plus Ross worst enemy is TIME. She hasn't had big hits lately because she's considered a thing of the past. by the recording and radio industries. They prefer to push something new like Lady GaGa and them other bitches. However Diana is still very popular in concerts and remains a legend forever.
@tinaine1 dIANA WAS at the top of the Hollywood /showbusiness mountain, she could do no wrong. her songs were played on the radio and people thought of her as a true "Sister" who had 'DID IT", but after Mary made officiel the rumors about Miss Ross's true nature, her sales and her standing in all communities started to slide very fast.She has never recovered.it wasn't new singers like Whitney who crushed her, but the truth
@etrax2000 Gone back to your same old tricks Extra2000, Blocking people critical of Mary Wilson from YOUR SITES, while taking Cheap Shots @ Diana Ross on Other Peoples Sites, Duplicitous, The Mark of a True Mary Wilson Fan
Miss Mary has had Something NEGATIVE to say about EVERY OTHER SUPREME, she has Sued, Maniputated, Cried & Whined to Keep as Much of "The Supremes" Legacy for Herself as Possible, Duplicity & Backckstabbing are her 2 Talents, There have been Many Books written since Miss Mary's Fictional Tale, Most place much Doubt on her Story & Credability
BigBear...If Mary, who is certainly an insider in The Supremes history, did not write the truth, there's no reason to believe that outsiders are writing the truth either. There are many books out there and there'll be more because The Supremes are big business, just like Marilyn Monroe, the JFK assasination, UFO's, etc. Somebody will always find new "evidence" about this or that. To end your stupid arguments, remember that NONE of the individuals in this story are saints.
Ross also sang on the 10 flops they had before they found the right formula and hit it big, she was a contributing factor of course, but not the only reason for their success. Mary was very candid about herself as well in her book. She also told the truth about Diana, and as I said before no matter how diplomatic you try to be it is not flattering.Accept the truth and get over it! You idol has been tarnished, its not the end of the world. Dry your eyes and move on!
Hey rameller, Before it's too Late, Take a Deep breath & repeat to yourself, I wasn't even born when The Supremes were around & I know Nothing about what I'm saying, You might actually read a book or Learn something
@TheReturnOfBigBear I only read good books by notable authors. I do not read gossip books or tell-all biographies. They are a waste of time and money plus they do violence to your brain and intelect.
One doesn't have to be Diana Ross to expect, Integrity & Honesty when talking about the accomplshments of Diana Ross, The Supremes, Berry Gordy or Motown
Nothing Nasty or Bitter about On Line, To attempt to Elevate others by Constantly putting down The Lead Singer deserves a response, Diana Ross was the right person with the right voice at the right time, She appealed to EVERYONE & opened doors for others, Her Background Singers were well compensated & lived a life few living in a Housing Project could ever dream of, Diana Ross left Motown in 1981 with 250k, (Not much more than Florenece 14 Years Earlier), She's Paid her Due's & Deserves Respect
@TheReturnOfBigBear Please before is too late. Follow the advise someone else gave you. Close your eyes, take a big breath and repeat to yourself: "I am not Diana Ross....I am not Diana Ross" You might find peace of mind.
@bellacharo Bless you sweetie for setting the record straight. Don't worry about that evil character that doesn't have anything better to do in his lonely life. Think about it. His life must be hell when he carries all that hate and resentment inside. He should get medical attention before it's too late.
Half a Century ago!, Miss Mary remains Motown's Most Successful No Talent Parasite till this Day!, Don't try to Minimize her Accomplishments, Her Legacy of Lives on!
@anfieldlegend Thanks for bringing common sense to this unfortunate situation. Some people are stuck forever on things that happened in this group many years ago instead of focusing on the great things they accomplished together. The Supremes are legendary and nothing can change that.
Beautiful, Talented Mary Wilson?, LOL!!!!, What exactly was her Talent?, Humming?, Hand Clapping?, What Exactly did she Survive?, Herpes?, She made a Fortune off The Reflected Glory of Diana Ross, just because she Chose to Snort most of it up her Nose, is her Problem
@bellacharo yes but MARY abused drugs so bad that she caused the new supremes to quit the qroup..that being Jean, Cindy, Sherrie Payne and Lynda Lawernce ..so jus because she Didnt get Caught dont mean she Didnt abuse drugs she was on cocaine so bad the other supremes quit the group. she also killed her kid. also refuses to share any of the money with Cindy or Flos children..shes quite a cow. and slept with married Tom Jones Steve Mcqueen and Flip Wilson ALL MARRIED at the time.
@blkshepherd OMG! You guys are getting nuttier by the minute. Still bitching about things that happened 40 years ago! By the way...aren't you normal enough to realize that those accusations will never hold up in a court of law? What you're doing here is called SLANDER...
No Kurt Darling, You & Miss Mary are Pathetic, How has your Solo Career gone?, Are you worth over 150 MIllion? Odd & Telling isn't it, That Diana Ross didn't become a Wealthy Woman for more than a Decade after LEAVING the Supremes, As Far as Fox news goes, Thats an American Creation, Largely ignored here, Much like Mary Wilson & Yourself
Ok these ladies , and the groups of days gone by paved the road for so many artist, so listen to the lyric, and the music, hell people this was before all the high tech microphones etc... priceless. Maybe that is why today's artist once in a while will record these older songs.... because they are priceless... We just can't get enough. Music the language of the world..
dragonfly5372 50 minutes ago
Ooops! This is sounds of the city 1967 and you should know Florence Ballard when you see/hear her, She is right here, By the way she would be the Founding member of the group. Mary Wilson is enchanting as are all of them.
thatbritts 1 day ago
the audience is dressed up to attend the taping of a television show; another indication of the low standards today. God Bless the Supremes.
Teixeira25ify 2 days ago
diana was the supremes period,mary and flo were what they were,just back up singers,diana took them to mega fame and wealth and mary and flo should of been gratefull to miss diana for giving them a chance,but what did that slimeball mary do stab diana in the back out of sheer jealousy,diana ross has been a superstar for over 50 years and her music will live on when shes left this earth and mary will be forgotten.
SuperGraystoke 4 days ago
@SuperGraystoke Miss Mary was a Talented Finger Snapper & Hand Clapper, Her Bumping & Grinding are 2nd to none
Perhaps the Grammy Awards will Honour her with a Lifetime Achievement Award?
(If they can remember who she was)
TheReturnOfBigBear 2 days ago
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jdpatterson100, you only wish you could be half what Mary Wilson was and is! She could not help being more beautiful and talented than Diana Ross.Do something constructive with yourself, instead of hating her for her looks and natural glamour, try to be like her. I doubt if you could, but you can at least try!
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jdpatterson100, you only wish you could be half what Mary Wilson was and is! She could not help being more beautiful and talented than Diana Ross.Do something constructive with yourself, instead of hating her for her looks and natural glamour, try to be like her. I doubt if you could, but you can at least try!
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Isn't it hard to believe that they were all 23 years old? Well, okay, Cindy was two months shy of 28...LOL (they kept the age difference hidden) How elegant and professional for such young ladies!
profesorhaven 2 weeks ago
Beautiful, classy and professional. Entertainment at it's best
We miss you , Supremes. Love the dresses
remymarco 2 weeks ago
These are beautiful women who didn't have to perform like strippers to sell records.
MrTars9 4 weeks ago
From a far distance Cyndi, does look like Florence but, Flo was better. R.I.P. Flo u were my fav
Hoopz10001 1 month ago
Now that's class! Why can't these younger performers act even remotely like this? SMH
princessfam 1 month ago
@ 5:16 love how they put Cindy Birdsong on blast, seems she have some humor taste !
87rejis 1 month ago
love those ladies, always have, always will
2323giggity 1 month ago
ooweee....talk about bitter people. Why all this bickering over Mary and Diana? Heck I did that years ago, got older and am over it. I am appreciating these ladies today more than ever because we are losing so many heros in music. Damn it, stop the nonsense and enjoy them. They made history and still are doing their thing each woman accomplishing goals that goes beyond the Supremes. All kudos to the Supreme ladies, all 8 of them.
Vincent50 1 month ago
God Nellie David, Miss Mary's "Fans" are such Vicious Closet Cases!, Are you a Scientologist too?
TheReturnOfBigBear 1 month ago
Nothing against Cindy Birdsong, great performer and background singer, but she was no Florence Ballard!!! RIP Florence Ballard!!! Plus here you can tell Diana Ross is really feeling herself as the group headliner, as if now Flo is gone from the group, now she could really shine, plus she had BG in her corner!!
LadeeCen 1 month ago
@LadeeCen Yep! Say what you want about Ms. Ross, but she's a bad, bad b@#$%! She is still one of my heroes.
tayneshia 1 month ago
you a wanker bear ass a big gay wanker. go av a and job.
neildavid1000 2 months ago
WTF "Nellie David"?, Are you on Drugs?
TheReturnOfBigBear 2 months ago
shame bout v ugly sister.any horrer film offers anyone.
neildavid1000 2 months ago
cindy birdsong took florence place is on the left diana ross is in the middle and mary wilson is on the right
tylean210 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
So who is who? i know it's ross and wilson, who is the third, and who is who?
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FYI
This aired Tuesday September 26, 1967. Great stuff!
profesorhaven 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
I like this performance but how is this when they became a superstar group. If anything this is when Diana Ross was being pushed in front of the group by Berry Gordy to become a superstar. They only had 2 more number 1 hits after this and only Diana sang on them.
stu0812 2 months ago
If you Need to believe that, to give your" I hate Diana Ross" Career Meaning, go ahead, It's doesn't change the Fact Miss Mary watched 4 Million Dollars go down The Shitter, & ended up Opening for Joey Heatherton at The Ramada Inn later that Month,. Miss Mary's "Power" will no doubt end with her 2nd Bankruptcy soon
TheReturnOfBigBear 2 months ago
Hardly Nellie David, Miss Ross is Entertaining us, Miss Mary is Like a Horny Old Alley Cat, Humping & Pumping a Scratching Post
TheReturnOfBigBear 2 months ago
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look at the state of ross. should ave a bag over er ed.the beauty of mary and cindy . why was the ugly sister there,she spoilt the song its only the two others that keep the old love going.
neildavid1000 2 months ago
timeless... iconic... what a range!
TOMofLA 2 months ago
manohmanohmanohman. ALL this negative energy towards people you REALLY don't know. MOTOWN, DR&THE SUPREMES gave me MORE than great music and performances. to this day, next to JESUS CHRIST, the most INSPIRATIONAL entities of my life. the BAR is SO HIGHHH. STILL reaching to B!
tofelt 2 months ago
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Yes Diana, you are tramp.
MrStyle23 2 months ago
@MrStyle23 Yes. She took afer your momma...
bellacharo 2 months ago
I hear that they( Hollywood ) are casting for someone to play Linda Lovelace. Can anyone come up with a Damsel to play lead? Oh, what about Mary(slurp,gag burp )Wilson?surely she can get even the Biggest bone to fit into her gullet with room to spare ;-0 !!! Forgive me, maybe there is a more befitting roll for her... Sling-Blade pt.2 lmao !! PEACE2U all....
jdpatterson100 2 months ago 4
The only thing that has kept Mary in the tiniest glimmer of limelight for the last 30 years has been her showing her stupidity and bitterness whilst inadvertently trashing her own legacy by constantly trashing Diana Ross. I know who I feel is the real bitch of The Supremes and it isn't Diana. Even Flo is on record as saying she would always rather deal with Diana than Mary because Diana 'shot from the hip' and that she knew where she stood with her. Whereas Mary was sneak and a back stabber.
SuperSeahorse22 3 months ago 2
@SuperSeahorse22 The Image of "The Supremes" is Tarnished beyond repair, it started in 1986 with The Publication of The Bitter, Self Serving & Manipulted Memiores of a Bankrupt Supreme with a Bad Cocaine Habit & a Need for Cash, The Death Nail came in 1999 when The same Bitter Grandiose Supreme decided to put another Knife into the back of The woman most responsible for Lifting her Ass out of the Ghetto to begin with
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
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@TheReturnOfBigBear Boy, it really bothers you that Mary has that kind of powere, doesn't it? It bothers DIANE, too!!!!!!!!!!
kurtsupreme 2 months ago
@kurtsupreme Miss Mary Wilson Barely has enough `Power` to get that Big Black Ass of hers on that Electric Scooter every month & Pick up her 5Lb Block of Government Cheese & Social Security Cheque
TheReturnOfBigBear 2 months ago
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@TheReturnOfBigBear Yeah? Well, she had enouigh power to SINGLEHANDEDLY take down Diane and the Return to Love Tour, didn't she?????????
kurtsupreme 2 months ago
Such a "Sensitive Little Diva" aimperator, Toss That Scarf around your Neck & Storm off on those Heels!
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
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@TheReturnOfBigBear Why are you so jealous of Mary Wilson? Did she reject you when you tried out for one of the latter day Supremes? Don't you know the Supremes were always three talented, gorgeous Black Women? Not two gorgeous talented Black Women and one fat, hairy slob of jerk white guy calling himself Bear! Get over it an or start your own group!
DetroitLives313 3 months ago
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TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
@DetroitLives313 How Dare you Call me "White" Is there No Level to which you will not Stoop!, She Devil!
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear You are the kind of TRASH that give black people a bad reputation.
bellacharo 2 months ago
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@bellacharo Girl, you just need to Hush, You have NO CLUE what you're Talking About,
TheReturnOfBigBear 2 months ago
Why don't you take your ridiculous comments, and self and go hibernate?I won't dignify anymore of these aburd comments with an answer. I hope no one else does either. Thank you and have a wonderful, happy day!
aimperator 3 months ago
You only wish you had half of her abilities, so does Diana Ross. I think you are both just jealous of her.
aimperator 3 months ago
@aimperator Thats Brilliant, Jealous of Mary Wilson!, Yes, I wish to follow in her Shadow Cocaine Addiction, Bankruptcy & Herpes Really Appeal to me! LOL!!!! & Diana Ross is Desparate to Open for Slim Whitman on a Tour of Bolivia, No Flies on You aimperator, You're the Sharpest Knife in the Drawer!
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
@aimperator I think you are very much onto something here...... They are jealous of Mary!
DetroitLives313 3 months ago
@DetroitLives313 You got my Number Detroit!, Whew, you're a smart one!, Silly me, I thought you were just trying to signal aimperator to Help you try to defend Miss Mary's No Talent , Backstabbing Ass,
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
I stand Corrected, The Blonde Nympo is Finger Snapping!, Such a Talented Girl!
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
wow
LeighFeatherstone 3 months ago
I think you should watch the video again. Not one time do the two beautiful Supremes clap their hands. It would have improved the video immensely, if they had stepped in front of Diana Ross though!
aimperator 3 months ago in playlist aimperator's favorites
@aimperator I must say I'm so Sorry, I never realized The Blonde Nympho was a "Triple Threat", Humming, Finger Snapping & Hand Clapping! Yes your Absolutely Right, Move her Up Front & Showcase those Abilities!
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
aimperator Without Diana Ross this Video would be Nothing but a Few Ooh's & Ahh's with a Smiling Nymphomaniac Clapping her Hands in the background
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
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TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
Everytime I watch this video it gets better and better. Mary Wilson gets more and more gorgeous each time, the gowns they wore were fabulous, of course on Diana Ross it looked like a nightgown, on her skinny stick figure everything did. The supremes are 100% of this video, without them it would be nothing. Bigbear, why did you have to return at all? We are better off without you.
aimperator 3 months ago in playlist aimperator's favorites
These gowns were really fabulous
leadsupreme1 3 months ago
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TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
Dream girls??
blackjack18md 3 months ago
Miss rameller "Male Models" Past or Present are made to be Seen & Not Heard, Hush & Return to the Cat Walk or to Obscurity with Mary Wilson
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
The history of The Supremes is very well documented. The videos are there for the world to remember or discover what consumate performers they were. Beauty, talent and class defined all 3 of them FOREVER. No amount of cheap slander from a couple of mentally retarded individuals can change that history.
rameller1 3 months ago
Oh Miss "Ramller" The Self Declared "Former Model" Herself, I knew it was just a Matter of Time before you Hit The Cat walk again, If you think Miss Mary is "Georgeous", you must have ben ONE UGLY Model yourself, If you think That Duplicitous, Backstabbing Parasite has Any Class, you must have been raised, by some Tribal Culture in The Rain Forest, Thats all for now, I will be back later to read yours & Miss Mary's menu's
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
Yeah Right, Diana was Fab, Cindy was sweet, Mary was just there, Like a Skin Tag, You know its there, but you just can`t be bothered to remove it
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
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@TheReturnOfBigBear THE ONLY SKIN TAG HERE IS YOU... YOU HATE BECAUSE YOU NEVER GOT THE CLASS AND TALENT THAT ALL THE SUPREMES HAD INCLUDING GORGEOUS MISS WILSON.... DON'T BLAME ANYBODY FOR YOUR "BAD LUCK"...
rameller1 3 months ago
Let us all stop with the negative, nasty comments and accept the facts: The Supremes enjoyed 24 Top Twenty hits between 1964 and 1972 (half of those went to Number One!)--a record that has YET to be superceded by any girl group.
Their Ed Sullivan DVD peaked at #8 in weekly DVD sales last month!
The first girl group to be inducted in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame!
And why was this group ranked #97 on the Rolling Stones Top 100 Artists chart?!
And no F&*%ING Grammys either!
gayboymotown 3 months ago 6
LOL!!!!, GORGEOUS, Yeah Right, Horny & In Need a Scratching Post is more like it, As for you BellaBitch, Those who forget the Past are Bound to repeat it, Thats why Miss Mary has never Evoloved into anything but a Opening Act for Debbie Boone & Lola Falana
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
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OMG! LOOK AT MARY WILSON MOVE! SHE'S SO FEMENINE AND GORGEOUS!
raremark 3 months ago
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@raremark I AGREE. MARY HAS SUCH A CHARISMATIC STAGE PRESENCE AND MAKES THE CHOREOGRAPHY SEEM EASY, ALMOST SECOND NATURE. Don't get me wrong. All three ladies are AWESOME but on this particular performance Mary shines.
rameller1 3 months ago
Look at those outfits!!!! and the stage is just a set builders DREAMS!!!
greg44jack 3 months ago
And by the way DetroitLives313, As far as `Being Ugly`` goes, Have you taken a Good Look " Miss Mary`s Mexican Chin Implant`Lately, She looks Like Jay Leno with a $6.00 Wig
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear Do you all ever notice how "Big Bear" declares himself to be a "silly Ross as a solo act" fan; however, he always returns to the sites of the LEGENDARY trio. In addition to his other "closeted" activities, I believe that he is SECRETLY a fan of the LEGENDARY SUPREMES and that is why he calls himself the "Return of Big Bear"..................because he always "returns" to see Diane in her prime when she was a part of something bigger and greater than herself, THE SUPREMES!
kurtsupreme 3 months ago
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TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear ........................coming from a SILLY "Ross as a solo act" fan like yourself, I'll take that as a compliment!
kurtsupreme 3 months ago
I don't understand why Mary and Cindy are so shallow. It wasn't all about money. After all, how much does Mary make in 6 months or so on her own. And in the future they won't be able to tour together no matter how much they want to. Mary and Cindy will be saying, "Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda", while Diana Ross has always said," I can, and I did."
SpazChat 3 months ago
This is The Supremes at their very best. Performing live and enchanting audiences. Pure Magic, Diana, Mary & Cincy.
tinaine1 3 months ago 2
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DIANA REIGNS SUPREME AGAIN!
Following the 2 vile and defamatory reviews, which were nothing less than a personal attack on Diana Ross last week, read the Worcester Telegram review for The Hanover Theatre by Richard Duckett...GOOGLE IT!
Headlined:
'DIANA ROSS' STAR POWER IGNITES THE HANOVER"
MISS MARY THING, TWTR and your multiple YT accounts will be "FOAMING AT THE MOUTH"...."EAT YOUR HEART OUT"....**IF** YOU CAN FIND IT!!
OnlineAdministrator1 3 months ago
@josquinquin I totally agree!
Beaulechat 3 months ago
I love the Supremes! .. And this song, and the way they present it, is the quintessence of their era.
Josquinquin 3 months ago 2
SCREW YOU, If not for Diana Ross, Berry Gordy, Motown, HDH & The Funk Brothers, Miss Mary's Massive Ass would Still be Stuck in The Brewster Projects, On her own she's accomplished NOTHING, Except a Bankruptcy, Cocaine Addiction & a Hand Out from Diana Ross
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear Diana opened wide for Berry Gordy and everyone in the World knows it so you look and sound like a fool trying to make her out to be better than she is. She opened wide and that is how she got the lead spot. Without the Supremes she would not be shit and the Supremes were Mary Wilson, Florence Ballard and later on Cindy Birdsong. Oh and she is ugly!
DetroitLives313 3 months ago
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TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
@DetroitLives313 Well, "Shit 4 Brains", Your Dear Friend Miss Mary Opened Wide for just about Every, TOM, FLIP & Harry she could Find. Didn't she also send Naked Pictures of Herself to "Clive Davis"?, In a Vain Attempt to Secure a Recording Contract for her NO TALENT ASS, As Far Flo goes, She was Talented, but Where was she, when "My World is Empty Without You Recorded? (Off Sick), As for Cindy & Miss Mary, Where were they when "Love Child" & "Someday We'll be Together" Recorded?, NOT NEEDED !
TheReturnOfBigBear 3 months ago
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@TheReturnOfBigBear GEE ALL THAT TRIVIA FROM 30, 40 YEARS AGO! IT MUST BE HORRIBLE LIVING IN THE PAST LIKE THAT... BUNCH OF SICKOS...!
bellachelito 3 months ago
OHHHH SCREW ALL OF YOU MARY HATERS...FLO STARTED THE GROUP WITH MARY DAMN IT!! MARY BROUGHT DI IN AND ASKED FLO TO INCLUDE HER...AND THAT BITCH STARTED FUCKING BARRY AND USED THAT TO MAKE HERSELF THE FOCUS!!! PERIOD. WHEN FLO SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING SHE WAS UNDERSTANDABLY PISSED!! FUCK DI...yes, she had her time...but she fucked her friends over for FAME AND FORTUNE...SHE MESSED UP HER OWN IMAGE!
Mspendragon72 3 months ago
WHO IS MARY, WHAT DID SHE SAY ABOUT DIANA IM GAGGING TO KNOW
TheJohnnywalker123 4 months ago
@TheJohnnywalker123 Who is Diana ?
DetroitLives313 3 months ago
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tinaine & rameller, You Girls need to get yourselves a room, Get Naked & Rub yourselves all over Miss Mary's Trashy Book, That piece of Fiction (Like Miss Mary Herself) is Long Forgotten
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
Miss Mary has NEVER disputed or attempted any Legal action against either source, so just deal with it bellacharo, Your Hero is a Bitter, Jealous, Duplicitous Bitch
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
This Little tid bit of Information came to life when Cindy Birdsong contacted the R & R Hall of Fame, after the Induction of "Temptations" (when non Original Members were also included in the ceremony), She was told, Miss Mary had "Threatend" to decline the award "If Non Original" Members were included in the Induction, (Flo was Dead, Diana would Never attend because Mary had just published her book 18 months before) So Miss Mary basked in the Limelight alone
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear Details of The induction "Fiasco" are Published in the Books of J. Randy Taraborrelli & Tony Turner (Mary's Former Road Manager)
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear Oh! This story about the R&R Hall of Fame came from those books?? If I had to believe the bad things written in those books about Mary, I'd have to believe all the nasty things they wrote also about Diana and the other ladies also. Consecuently, I don't beleive any of it and I guarantee that the whole induction story was fabricated unless I get a signed affidavit from an official at the R&R Hall of Fame.
bellachelito 4 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear Oh really? And you got that juicy gossip from Miss Birdsong herself? However Mary was not alone that night since Flo's girls were there too invited by Mary's request.
bellachelito 4 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear Oh really? And you got that juicy gossip from Miss Birdsong herself? However Mary was not alone that night since Flo's girls were there too invited by Mary's request.
bellachelito 4 months ago
I'm not versed in Supremes politics and what not but what I do know is that this song is one of the best songs of the 1960's! And this is live!
1jimbones 4 months ago
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Once again, you must be Educated Miss rameller, It is a Well known Fact that Miss Mary Blocked Cindy Birdsong's Induction (as a Supreme) into The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Cindy has said this & it was verified by Tony Turner (Miss Mary's Former Road Manager) in his Book, Fuck rameller, Do some Homework, I like to Learn things on these Blogs
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
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I'll Give you Some "Creative Input" Miss tinaine, Miss Mary SCREWED Cindy Birdsong out of a Comfortable Retirement because of Her Greed & Stupidity
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
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Diana was actually willing to take a Salary REDUCTION to do the RTL Tour, She passed on any sort of Salary Guarantee but every other Supreme was covered, no matter if the tour succeeded or Failed, Diana agreed to a Percentage of Gross, widely expected to be less than her standard fee @ The Time, Do your Homework tinaine
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
Another little Bit of News, you might like to know, When 'The Supremes" were Inducted into The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Mary Wilson threatened to "Boycott" the Ceremony if "Cindy Birdsong was Included
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear ANOTHER FALSEHOOD! Do you know where you're going to? Do you like the things that life is showing you? Obviously NOT! But don't blame it on Mary or anybody. You have chosen evil so it's your own problem.
rameller1 4 months ago in playlist More videos from motownbaby
@TheReturnOfBigBear According to you Mary has a lot of power if she can actually make demands on places such as The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. I didn't know she was so POWERFUL. Thanks for the info.
bellachelito 4 months ago
@bellachelito mary did have a little power back in the late 80's as she was basking in the glory of hating on diana. for a fleeting megasecond she had some power. she used it for sure. then, washed up again, forgotten until 1999/2000 when she whinged, whined and lied her way into the public eye again. mary works but she is not in the same superstar mode as diana.
wonderboyjoy 4 months ago
Yes Move On Little Girl, Get your Facts right, before you Open your Trap Again
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
Let me see, You began to admire Miss Mary in 1999, That would make you 11 Years old, I'm sure you knew everything that happend During Negotiations between SFX (The Promoter) & All of "The Supremes?, I suggest you look into the Details on what Actually Happend & not what you Assumed as an 11 year Old
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear When you say "what actually happened" you mean what YOU THINK HAPPENED...right? When is YOUR BOOK coming out? Ooops! I'm sorry. I forgot you couldn't write English properly. Hey! That's an idea! Why don't you make good use of your time and join some adult education center where you can learn how to spell and some writing skills?
tinaine1 4 months ago
@tinaine1 I Doubt Arthur Fogel has anything to Lose or Gain by releasing the Details of Negotiations for SFX, You seem to Want to believe the Worst when it comes to Diana Ross, As for grammer?, It's a Blog, Fool, I'm not going to Sweat anything I write on here, or Spell Check it Either, Frankly, I could care less What the Hell you Think about Anything, The fact remains, SFX thought 1 Million Dollars was More Than Fair for Miss Mary, When she became THE ONLY OBSTRUCTION to the RTL Tour (Con't)
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear - Diana Ross encouraged SFX to go back to Mary with a More Generous Offer, By this Time, Mary Had Convinced Cindy, they should "Negotiate Together", SFX, Doulbled the Offer to Mary, (2 Million Dollars), after Miss Mary Turned her Nose up @ That offer, Diana took 2 Million of HER OWN MONEY & offered Miss Mary 4 Million Dollars, Miss Mary never Responded to the Offer, of Bothered to ask for 1 Cent more for Cindy Birdsongs Participation
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
BigBear: the ONLY OBSTRUCTION to the RTL came from Diva-In-Distress Ross who after years of solo super stardom and of minimizing The Supremes legacy, all of the sudden wanted to cash in on the name Supremes. Her idea of a "reunion tour" was not shared by Wilson & Birdsong and both ladies refused all offers since they thought it was more important to have creative input into the shows. In other words they refused to be Diana's props in a tour that would exploit The Supremes name.
tinaine1 4 months ago
BigBear: the ONLY OBSTRUCTION to the RTL came from Diva-In-Distress Ross who after years of solo super stardom and of minimizing The Supremes legacy, all of the sudden wanted to cash in on the name Supremes. Her idea of a "reunion tour" was not shared by Wilson & Birdsong and both ladies refused all offers since they thought it was more important to have creative input into the shows. In other words they refused to be Diana's props in a tour that would exploit The Supremes name.
tinaine1 4 months ago
What ever you say rameller, Miss Mary would Give her Left Tit to have that 4 Million Dollar offer back on the Table again, I'd bet my 2 Testicles she would trip over herself to Ooh & Ahh now!, Too Late, Too Bad, So Sad
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear The way you express yourself and the language you use shows what kind of trash you are. I'm sure that if Miss Ross or any of The Supremes see you coming they'd call the cops on you. I'm leaving you in your filthy habitat trapped in a world that's a distorted reality while I'm moving along into something beautiful like watching again this magnificent performance by the world's greatest trio.
rameller1 4 months ago
there are stars and superstars and then you have the SUPERGIANTS
Bruce99100 4 months ago
Diana Helped Both Mary & Flo when they needed it, She found a way, that seems to be forgotten or overlooked
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
Tinaine, you are so right. Mary told the truth and tried to be as diplomatic about it as she could. She didn't just push blame on others, she took some o the responsibility herself, especially when it came to Flo problems, but there was only so much you can do when someone doesn't want to help themselves.
aimperator 4 months ago in playlist aimperator's Favorited Videos
Diana Ross left Motown in 1981 with 250k, far less than Miss Mary made off her "Diana Dearest" Book, In 1999 Diana offered Miss Mary 4 Million Dollars for 3 Months of Ooh's & Ahh's, Diana doesn't OWE anyone Anything, Miss Mary still recieves Royalties from "Supremes" songs (some she never even sang on), An Income of 100k per year, What Senior wouldn't be Happy with & Grateful for That Alone?
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear I began respecting and admiring Miss Wilson for refusing 3 months of Ooh's & Ahh's behind out of control diva. I mean 4 Million is a lot of money but Miss Wilson showed guts, self respect and, most important, respect for The Supremes legacy and for the fans. In reference to the royalties that bother YOU so much, she certainly deserves them since her image was used to sell those recordings and she sang them live numerous times on stages and TV.
rameller1 4 months ago
Miss Mary has No Talent to Rob?, She has been "Out of The Clutches" of The Evil Motown Empire" for over 34 Years, Why has No One Else Tapped into this Huge Bundle of Talent?
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
I would really like to read a "Vandella" book, Far More Interesting, Martha Reeves was known to Beat the Piss out of the Girls on Occassion, between her stays in the Mental Asylem, LOL!!!, Miss Mary seems to think she had it so bad, She needs to take a walk in the Pumps of a Vandella!
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
The problem is Miss Mary, no doubt, has Much more Scandal & Skeletons in her Closet than Diana, But people either don't know who she is or care, so @ some point it becomes extortion
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
is that Turner turner in the front aisle? he never explained how he got the money to travel all the country to catch up with the ladies.
etrax2000 4 months ago
Miss Mary simply wrote a Believeable book, that was perhaps not all that Honest, It was a "NO WIRE HANGERS!" Diana Dearest Type book,
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear You are wildly exagerating. I think all this BS about Mary's books being exposes of Diana was started by Mary (to sell of course), the media caught on and embelished it; then Diana's fans took it to the max. I've read Mary's books TWICE looking for Diana bashing and don't find anything worthwhile except the Motown 25 push. I keep hearing that Mary never mentioned in her books that she had borrowed money from Diana but IT IS THERE... I've read it.
rameller1 4 months ago
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TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
Miss Mary's Book has No More Cedability than any other Book written, probably less, being that she had Gone Bankrupt not long before the release of the book & was in need of Cash, Smut & Sensationalism Sells
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
BigBear THAT'S YOUR OWN PERSONAL OPINION. Mine is that Mary's books are objective, restrained and in good taste. There's so much smut she could have written about but she didn't obviously respecting everybody's privacy including Diana's.
tinaine1 4 months ago
@tinaine1 yes, mary could have devestated Dian'as imnage with tales of doctor visits, midnight meetings with men and othjer rumors involving berry and his various strange requests from his partner miss ross, but whether from fear or loyality, she choose to just report the basic truths. that turned out to be enough to destroys both diana's image and her recording sucess.
etrax2000 4 months ago
@etrax2000And do you honestly believe that Diana couldn't have written VOLUMES in her own book about the antics,perversions,substance abuses & laziness of Mizz Wilson?Do you really believe that that Wilson thing is some kind of saint? She's as guilty as the next...even more so with her "oh-I'm-so-sweet-and-lovely, but-turn-your-back-for-a-second-and-I'll-plunge-the-knife-in-as-deep-as-I-can" persona.The woman is clearly a jealous, self centred, talentless bitch. Yes Diana could have said PLENTY!
ParaFacSub 4 months ago
@ParaFacSub I read Diana's bok. it is the only book in the history of my readings where i actually considered going back to the book store and asking for my money back. there was almost nothing in it of any substance. be honest. What do you remember of that book, let me see, Diana in Africa almost being robbed but her "fame " saved her as the would be robbers recognized her.
etrax2000 4 months ago
@ParaFacSub A line from the book, "Sometimes they talked about me behind my back, others right to my face. that is about all I recall from Ms Ross. many people found the book to be lifeless, devoid of any substance or content. Only her own imagined injustices in the world.That . I am afraid is what has guided Miss Ross throughout her career, a desire to get revenge on the world for all the hurts she may or may have expierenced from others growing up regardless of their importance or justice.
etrax2000 4 months ago
@ParaFacSub i don't believe that mary is jealous. Envious yes, no doubt and quite misguided about her own "Talents" and lack of opportunities to receive accolades. She (Mary) has had countless chances to shine and has managed to just flicker here and there. No where near Diana's star power.Mary is no saint as anyone who has bothered to delve into her relationships with the Hollywod sewers in the seventies. preety shocking stories if even partially true.,
etrax2000 4 months ago
@etrax2000 I'm sorry but I don't agree. Mary is blatantly jealous of Diana.It's the only place where she truly "shines". Her books, her interviews, all scream "I'm a jealous bitch". I don't understand how she can claim that she *LOVES** Diana and yet wrote such dirt about her. Let me ask you a question: regardless of fame, would YOU write a book full of venomous comments about someone YOU profess to love? For no amount of money would I do that regardless of the amount of money I'd make from it.
ParaFacSub 4 months ago
@etrax2000Thousands of artists(lead singers,backing vocalists,musicians,producers, actors etc)could write volumes so as to rubbish someone they "love" and yet choose NOT to,simply bc they have more dignity.Mary's books are full of pettinesses and childish "I'm going to tell Miss on you" stories. People of the US got taken in by it all.Other people around the world (esp in the UK) read between the lines and read "jealous bitch", or just didn't care about the rantings of a 2nd rate backing singer!
ParaFacSub 4 months ago
@ParaFacSub LOL!, I agree with you, A lifetime to get here was a Good Read, It was the First Book that actually seemed to make sense to me, Interesting was the Honesty in the book. Marvin Gaye has had No Problem admitting he was Jealous of Diana, but goes out of his way to be Fair, saying she worked Her Ass Off & deserved every bit of the Glory she recieved, Gil Askey also expressed the same thoughts, Too Bad Miss Mary won't acknowlege Certain Facts, Her "Memories" are Self Serving" @ Best
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
@ParaFacSub perhaps people in Brittain are more enamored with the Glitter of royalty than the substance that causes it to shine when compared to others. Diana and berry and the Motown machine robbed many of their talents , dignity and inherited weath. so many died and have become lost in the transition from MOTOWN FAMILY to coporate "TOUGH LUCK !
etrax2000 4 months ago
@etrax2000 Most people in the UK dont give a fuck about the royal family despite how it might seem to outsiders. Maybe its just that people of America get swallowed in too easily and dont read between the lines when people write rubbish like that Wilson thing did. And maybe most of those artists at Motown didn't have what it took to carry themselves into superstardom...its always easy to blame others for shortcomings...and that includes Mary Wilson!
ParaFacSub 4 months ago
@ParaFacSub he offered no financial support in teaching them the how to's of business. Only when they started to ask questions, were they then droped from the company or set upon by legal hacthet men. this pratice continued long into the 1990's. it was standard motown operations.. miss Ross found herself in the same predicament, but surely faired better than most .yet offered no help to anyone, on how to triumph financially
etrax2000 4 months ago
@ParaFacSub when she loaned money to mary &Cindy; she had them pay her back with interest.. Mary ? a person with great delusions about her talent and misplaced opportunities, Miss Ross, ? she got what she got and didn'tn't blame or praise anyone but her self. i believe that is how she wished to be remembered. make that wishes as I believe that she is still alive somewhere .
etrax2000 4 months ago
@etrax2000 Wasn't really referring to the brit Royal family ,but just the Glitterai of the world in general. Now we have been bombarded by brit socialites who have purchased beverly Hills mansions and we are now expecxted to give a s###. I ,for one do not.Most people who attack Motown and bery Gordy do so concernng the vast disparages in income that he delt to his "money making" artist. they generated millions and wound up with very little or even nothing,
etrax2000 4 months ago
@ParaFacSub but Diana has legions of haters who know her for what she really is beneath the gltiter, In fact that should be the next title of a book on the "TRUE LIVES OF MISS ROSS." with so many Supremes' anniversities coming in 2014, I don't doubt the knives are being sharpened at this very moment.
etrax2000 4 months ago
@ParaFacSub Diana actually did sign on to write a "Tell All" book a few years ago, but decided against it, Why go out and Retaliate, Trashing Someone else?, She has usually taken the High Road & chose to again, Most of her "Dirt" has been Published Over & Over Again, It all amounts to a Fart in a Wind Storm, I have more Scandal in My Life than her! (Most People do) we are just not Famous (Like Mary Wilson) so no one pays any attention
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear Most people who didnt enjoy Diana's book only DIDN'T bc she didn't fill it with the dirty gossip & tidbits they wanted to read.I loved the book: it gave me an insight into her own world withOUT trashing the people who put her down.Other than her own book,the closest I've come to knowing the REAL DR is "A Lifetime To Get Here".
Indeed Mary may well have had chances to shine,but without a spark there's no flame,and there's never been a spark in her "talent" as far as I can see!
ParaFacSub 4 months ago
@etrax2000 Do you really think that Mary's books destroyed Diana's image and recording career? I doubt it. Diana antics have worked more against her than any Wilson book. Plus Ross worst enemy is TIME. She hasn't had big hits lately because she's considered a thing of the past. by the recording and radio industries. They prefer to push something new like Lady GaGa and them other bitches. However Diana is still very popular in concerts and remains a legend forever.
tinaine1 4 months ago
@tinaine1 dIANA WAS at the top of the Hollywood /showbusiness mountain, she could do no wrong. her songs were played on the radio and people thought of her as a true "Sister" who had 'DID IT", but after Mary made officiel the rumors about Miss Ross's true nature, her sales and her standing in all communities started to slide very fast.She has never recovered.it wasn't new singers like Whitney who crushed her, but the truth
etrax2000 4 months ago
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@etrax2000 Gone back to your same old tricks Extra2000, Blocking people critical of Mary Wilson from YOUR SITES, while taking Cheap Shots @ Diana Ross on Other Peoples Sites, Duplicitous, The Mark of a True Mary Wilson Fan
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
Miss Mary has had Something NEGATIVE to say about EVERY OTHER SUPREME, she has Sued, Maniputated, Cried & Whined to Keep as Much of "The Supremes" Legacy for Herself as Possible, Duplicity & Backckstabbing are her 2 Talents, There have been Many Books written since Miss Mary's Fictional Tale, Most place much Doubt on her Story & Credability
TheReturnOfBigBear 4 months ago
BigBear...If Mary, who is certainly an insider in The Supremes history, did not write the truth, there's no reason to believe that outsiders are writing the truth either. There are many books out there and there'll be more because The Supremes are big business, just like Marilyn Monroe, the JFK assasination, UFO's, etc. Somebody will always find new "evidence" about this or that. To end your stupid arguments, remember that NONE of the individuals in this story are saints.
tinaine1 4 months ago
Ross also sang on the 10 flops they had before they found the right formula and hit it big, she was a contributing factor of course, but not the only reason for their success. Mary was very candid about herself as well in her book. She also told the truth about Diana, and as I said before no matter how diplomatic you try to be it is not flattering.Accept the truth and get over it! You idol has been tarnished, its not the end of the world. Dry your eyes and move on!
aimperator 4 months ago
Noteable does not equate to "Credible", Slander for " Profit & Self Interest" should not be rewarded by anyones silience
TheReturnOfBigBear 5 months ago
All three ladies are terrific. Talented and glamorous. A perfect combination.
raremark 5 months ago
Hey rameller, Before it's too Late, Take a Deep breath & repeat to yourself, I wasn't even born when The Supremes were around & I know Nothing about what I'm saying, You might actually read a book or Learn something
TheReturnOfBigBear 5 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear I only read good books by notable authors. I do not read gossip books or tell-all biographies. They are a waste of time and money plus they do violence to your brain and intelect.
rameller1 5 months ago
One doesn't have to be Diana Ross to expect, Integrity & Honesty when talking about the accomplshments of Diana Ross, The Supremes, Berry Gordy or Motown
TheReturnOfBigBear 5 months ago
Nothing Nasty or Bitter about On Line, To attempt to Elevate others by Constantly putting down The Lead Singer deserves a response, Diana Ross was the right person with the right voice at the right time, She appealed to EVERYONE & opened doors for others, Her Background Singers were well compensated & lived a life few living in a Housing Project could ever dream of, Diana Ross left Motown in 1981 with 250k, (Not much more than Florenece 14 Years Earlier), She's Paid her Due's & Deserves Respect
TheReturnOfBigBear 5 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear Please before is too late. Follow the advise someone else gave you. Close your eyes, take a big breath and repeat to yourself: "I am not Diana Ross....I am not Diana Ross" You might find peace of mind.
rameller1 5 months ago
The Supremes are the greatest female trio in history and pissed-off sick characters can't change that. It's history!
bellacharo 5 months ago 9
@bellacharo Bless you sweetie for setting the record straight. Don't worry about that evil character that doesn't have anything better to do in his lonely life. Think about it. His life must be hell when he carries all that hate and resentment inside. He should get medical attention before it's too late.
rameller1 5 months ago
Half a Century ago!, Miss Mary remains Motown's Most Successful No Talent Parasite till this Day!, Don't try to Minimize her Accomplishments, Her Legacy of Lives on!
TheReturnOfBigBear 5 months ago
Money for New Teeth! LOL, Your soooooooo Funny Miss Anita!, Were you the one who raised the Cash for Miss Mary's "Jay Leno", Chin Implant?
TheReturnOfBigBear 5 months ago
Miss Anita, Nothing "Plain" about me, I'm Colorful, Your world is Nothing but Shades of Gray
I will admit Diana had a "Few Too Many" in Arizona one night, But Miss Mary spent Most of the Late 70's & Early 80's with a Straw up Her Nose
TheReturnOfBigBear 5 months ago
lol we should focus on the one thing thats important....the music.....as a whole they are magical together
, it doesnt matter who did what or who had a more successful solo career. thats just my opinion.
anfieldlegend 5 months ago 18
@anfieldlegend Thanks for bringing common sense to this unfortunate situation. Some people are stuck forever on things that happened in this group many years ago instead of focusing on the great things they accomplished together. The Supremes are legendary and nothing can change that.
MsAnitaFlores1 5 months ago
Beautiful, Talented Mary Wilson?, LOL!!!!, What exactly was her Talent?, Humming?, Hand Clapping?, What Exactly did she Survive?, Herpes?, She made a Fortune off The Reflected Glory of Diana Ross, just because she Chose to Snort most of it up her Nose, is her Problem
TheReturnOfBigBear 5 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear If I remember correctly the only Supreme arrested for substance abuse is Miss Ross. Is she out of rehab now?
bellacharo 5 months ago
@bellacharo yes but MARY abused drugs so bad that she caused the new supremes to quit the qroup..that being Jean, Cindy, Sherrie Payne and Lynda Lawernce ..so jus because she Didnt get Caught dont mean she Didnt abuse drugs she was on cocaine so bad the other supremes quit the group. she also killed her kid. also refuses to share any of the money with Cindy or Flos children..shes quite a cow. and slept with married Tom Jones Steve Mcqueen and Flip Wilson ALL MARRIED at the time.
blkshepherd 5 months ago
@blkshepherd OMG! You guys are getting nuttier by the minute. Still bitching about things that happened 40 years ago! By the way...aren't you normal enough to realize that those accusations will never hold up in a court of law? What you're doing here is called SLANDER...
tinaine1 4 months ago
@tinaine1 Who the Fuck asked you? go back down in your hole and continue eating sad. DUMB ass
blkshepherd 4 months ago
@tinaine1 Fact REMAINs I will ATTACK ANYONE who ATTACKS Diana Ross. It is what it is.
blkshepherd 4 months ago
Yes Miss Mary's Hand Clapping Ability was 2nd to None & Cindys talent of not Farting During Performances was Pivitol in their success
TheReturnOfBigBear 5 months ago
@TheReturnOfBigBear How nasty! Do you do this for a living or are you just plain trash?
MsAnitaFlores1 5 months ago
No Kurt Darling, You & Miss Mary are Pathetic, How has your Solo Career gone?, Are you worth over 150 MIllion? Odd & Telling isn't it, That Diana Ross didn't become a Wealthy Woman for more than a Decade after LEAVING the Supremes, As Far as Fox news goes, Thats an American Creation, Largely ignored here, Much like Mary Wilson & Yourself
TheReturnOfBigBear 5 months ago