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  • I put up a video reply for you.

  • @f0xfree Yes, I saw, and am unimpressed.

  • @OmvendtVideo

    Yes you are welcome to be unimpressed. However my intention was not to impress you or unimpress you. My intention was to give a systematic fact based refutation of your points and how the past 150 years of developmental biology is driven by evolutionary biology, especially Haeckels' work and how ID does absolutely nothing or can explain why a 'lie' has produced 150 years of progress in embryology. :)

  • Mr Darwin was a monkey! Descended from an ape. We christians do not see us as an animal. We are created by God.

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    Answer my question first. Are you a CREATure?

  • @ChristJesusReigns Hi CREATure @_@ =P

  • LOL the only place I've ever seen them is in a creatioinist propaganda book. No reputable science book has used them for over a hundred years. I challenge you to post the name of any science book with links to it to prove your self otherwise your video just adds up to more creationist propaganda

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    Are you a CREATure?

  • @CommunistJesusReigns

    I have a better question.

    Were you born from your biological mother and father, or did a stork or God magic make you?

    If you said you were born from your biological mother and father, you're an evolutionist.

    If you think a stork or Jesus magic made you then you are an idiot.

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    Nothing but personal attacks from you. Same thing all evolutionists do....because they don't have an argument or any substance.

  • So you believe you were either magicked here or a stork flew you in? I guess that makes you a self proclaimed idiot then?

    Your question is moronic at best. By bastardizing the word creature to creat<--not even a word, thinking it looks like "create" you think that somehow by me agreeing that we are creatures; I somehow believe in creation. But you're wrong and your attempt to do so is very dishonest not only to yourself but to people that can't use their brain to see past your fallacious intent

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    You can't answer the question. Typical. And I'm very aware that you don't believe in creation. So the next time someone creates and builds a new computer, tell them you don't want it, because you don't believe in creating anything.

    Continue with you ad hominem personal attacks. Its all you can do from your position, because you're scared.

    Good night

  • I answered your fallacious question. I've made no personal attack. Logically you said you were an idiot by the equation I put forth, I can't help it if you don't accept the facts. I never once made any ad hominem attack regardless you still can't prove voodoo magic made everything so you must run away to quiet slumber thinking you've won a great battle but in reality you are lost in la la land.

    When You wake up you can give me a viable scientific alternative to evolution. I doubt you can.

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    You continue to make personal attacks because its all you can do to "defend" your position. Your foundation rests on muddy waters, while mine rests on the the Solid Rock.

  • Your QQ about personal attacks when I've made NONE your comment is just a side step around the center of the argument. I've asked you about 5 times now without calling you anything, but you can't do anything but bring up this bastardized misunderstanding of the word Creature. Seriously is that your alternative to evolution?

    If so I have to laugh at your ignorance

    If not then Show me your viable alternative to evolution and stop crying like a baby about how the big nasty Atheist Pwned your ass

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    The alternative to evolution is Creation, the Almighty God, the Savior, the king of kings, and the giver of eternal life, Jesus Christ, the God you love to hate on.

    Now's the part where you start calling Christ a myth...

    Carry on my atheist friend. :)

    Again, whatever makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. meanwhile we'll just continue to pray for you. There are many Christians in today's world who used to be devout atheists such as yourself. God can change you.

  • Ok lets say I believe you for half a second more than any sane person should.

    How did God(something you still can't define coherently) the savior(Jesus I suppose) and creation(err the act of creating things) function to make All the life forms on earth? magic? or is the logic you're using God used the ability to create things to create things. Circular reasoning? You tell me.

    Sell me your one legged race horse.

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    Not magic. But by His authority. But I'll ask you the same question from the way you look at the world:

    How did Nothing(something you can't define coherently) the savior(Darwin I suppose), function fo make ALL the life forms on earth? Magic? Or is the logic you're using NOTHING used the ability to create things to create things. Circular reasoning? YOU tell me.

    Sell me how nothing made everything? And don't just say "We don't know how it happened" either.

  • Evolution By Natural Selection never says that nothing created everything. EBNS is the way Life forms adapt to nature. Darwin, although boring and misguided by his creationist views couldn't deny his own findings, It took him half his life to stop lying to himself and finally tell the world of his findings.

    Evolution doesn't state how matter was created or even how life was created Research Aboigenesis, RNA world theory. You should research M theory or the big bang for the creation of matter.

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    What started everything? You say, The "Big Bang"?

    Ok, so then the "big bang" just became your "god".

    Its that simple.

    By the way, the Cambrian explosion drove Darwin nuts.

  • Incorrect Atheists don't have a God we have beyond trillions of precise acts of nature interlinking to form what we are today.

    200 year old Darwin did devote a entire section to his book about the Cambrian, recent discoveries have found that creatures were not preserved in the fossil record.

    The explosion taking over a few Million years was caused by the invention of sexual reproduction that accelerated speciation by natural selection.

    I still don't see how your viable alternative functions.

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    "Incorrect Atheists don't have a God "

    -Oh yes you do, its called human beings, and mainly yourselves. The "invention" of sexual reproduction huh?

    God Himself commanded sexual reproduction in the book of Genesis. Humans do indeed have a common ancestor alright.....its called the human.

    Dogs have a common ancester also....the DOG.

    Again, unless you trust in God and not man, you'll always be searching for answers..

  • In the book of Genesis God created light after there was water and water existed before there was matter. all observations of our universe contradict this. by this logic it's like reading a parking ticket and saying "I don't have to pay it because I got payed yesterday

    Actually with genetics we know the ancestor of dogs came from the same that wolves, foxes are from, the Canidae

    How can I trust in what is less than nothing? I can trust an apple is red but would you trust what cannot be known?

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    Actually Darwin rejected the Bible and Christianity, so I'm not quite sure where you're getting his "creationist views" from. You need to do more research.

  • Still your post is a side step I'd really like to know how God thing that lives out of space and time (reality) made everything out of nothing.

    I'm giving you a chance to explain your beliefs in a logical manner, most people wouldn't waste their time. Perhaps for you its not worth the effort to put forth a viable alternative

    This is how it reads to me, The washing machine clock and cold fridge made my car shinny because it did. This is a horrible explanation, clarify please how it functions

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    The irony in your question is this. We're talking about GOD here. God is Almighty and powerful and He doesn't work under human authority. There's the answer to your question.

    It really isn't that difficult to understand when you realize who you're talking about here. Its GOD you are talking about. Unless of course you can tell me about a human being who has been able to successfully create a universe,planets, stars, and all living creatures. Know one?

  • If my question is unanswerable why not go with Evolution since it's a more sufficient explanation? You can even rationalize to yourself that God invented Evolution as a mechanism for life to survive.

    The Facts are, Evolution was proven long ago its used every day even if you don't understand how it functions.

    By thwarting science you hold back nations from progressing For instance communist china is cloning human parts, in 10 years you will have to go to China for a heart transplant

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    What you don't understand is that unless you trust in Christ, you'll never accept God's Creation. You'll spend the rest of your life looking for the answers. Look at it this way: God created you. He put you on this planet for a purpose and reason. He didn't want to leave you in the dark not knowing the answers, so He has given you His Word, the Bible. He has instilled morals and principles in your heart (you know its wrong to murder, steal, etc..).

  • I've read the bible many many many times and its inaccuracies are an assault on any sane persons intelligence. There is no knowledge in the bible

    I implore you to show me one verse in the bible that holds unknown technological knowledge that could help humanity.

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    You can read the Bible a trillion times, but unless you've confessed your sins and come into a relationship with Christ, the Bible will mean nothing to you. To say there is no knowledge in the Bible is patently dishonest. Do you know what would HELP humanity?

    LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

    Which is exactly what Christ commanded.

    But you know what has prevented people from doing this?

    SIN, and "religion". That's what.

  • But what is sin? a vile act against God. Even you can't coherently define what God is so how can you do a vile act against something that is impossible to define?

    While the bible is concerned with eating shellfish and wearing mixed fabrics I'd say a few things that would help humanity would be: Food, off world colonies, medical endeavors unhindered by religious zealots(vaccines, cloning, genetic immortality) End oceanic nuclear waste dumping, End religious wars, Abolishment of money, education

  • @GodKillerAtheist

    If there is no knowledge in the Bible, then are you saying its ok to murder?

  • You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

    Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

    The bible thinks its ok to kill

  • As all atheists and liberals do, you always bring up Old Testament laws of the ancient Israelites and try to equate them to Christians. You know you don't have a case and you are proving that you really haven't read the entire Bible, because if you have, you would understand the difference between living under the Old Testament punishments and living under New Testament love and grace given through Christ, the sacrifice for mankinds sin. Atheists like yourself always try this. Nice try :)

  • There is only one sentence in the bible that is against murder and about 100 more for it.

    You're assuming that I'm saying its ok to do the opposite of what is in your book and that's not very honest.

    What if you must murder someone before they do something that would harm millions of people?

    One life for one million, your book is not very moral.

  • I know what's in the Bible, which is exactly why I'm a Christian and understand God's loving grace and redemption given through Jesus Christ in the New Testament, which is why we are not bound to the punishments and laws of the ancient Israelites. You know this, and I know this, but as all atheists do, you always bring up Old Testament punishments and ignore the rest of the Scripture. You cherry pick it just like satan tried on Christ during the temptation.

  • So let's see what the New Testament says, shall we?:

    Romans 6:14

    For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.

    John 1:17

    For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

  • So we should keep the law so that means we should keep slaves and be racists, or Kill our children when they hit us? Jesus did say to follow the law of the OT.

    The verses you posted are meaningless since they do not define spiritual sin.

  • As most atheists do, you take the Bible completely out of context. But you already knew that, didn't you?

    Also, nowhere in the Bible is racism endorsed either. But this is a common childish attack on Scripture that atheists normally use. You know what the Bible teaches? That we are all ONE race. The HUMAN race. It is Darwinian evolution that encourages racism, hence the whole "survival of the fittest", "one race is stronger than the other" mantra. Eugenics 101 aka Darwin's teachings

  • As most atheists do, you take the Bible completely out of context

    The bible said the same thing when I was a christian as it does when I was an Atheist. The main reason I became an Atheist is because I actually READ the bible. Its racist as hell it promotes slavery murdering your children ETC... to say it doesn't' is either a lie or just pure ignorance. Instead of talking about what you think is in the bible you should read the bible again and see what's really in it.

  • I'd like to know how a fact that species changing over time by adapting to their environment is racist. Even if you manipulate the environment to change the life forms characteristics artificially (eugenics) doesn't support racism, but it does get you a fat hamburger at McDonalds or a beautiful red apple every time the Genes you want are propagated more Each time you drink a glass of milk or eat those very plump blue berries you are consuming the byproducts of eugenics. Your argument is invalid

  • I'd like to know how you depict the Bible as racist. As I said, God creates us all, regardless of skin color. That's the problem with people. People look on the outside of a person instead of the inside, a person's heart. The true character of an individual lies from within, not their outer shell.

  • Jesus fulfilled the laws upon Himself. But I'm glad you admit that Jesus did say certain things, which means you admit you do indeed believe in the Bible, otherwise you wouldn't use it as a source to claim what Jesus said or didn't say.

    I also love how you neglect to mention how God freed the Israelites from the slavery of the ancient Egyptian Pharaoh, and you also fail to realize that slaves mentioned in the Bible were servants, and their masters were to treat them with respect. Read more

  • "Jesus fulfilled the laws upon Himself"

    YAY circular logic!

    "you admit you do indeed believe in the Bible"

    As much as any horrific fairy tale.

    Let me rephrase so you don't get confused again "The made up Character Jesus in the fictional story of him the writers wrote that he said ETC"

    "you neglect/how God"

    What is this God thing? Please Define This God thing Coherently.

    Ps I've read it and it makes NO sense there is no historical record of any of it, proving the bible is a fairy tale

  • Not circular logic mr. atheist, just Biblical truth. To say there is no historical record of Biblical events is about as intellectually dishonest as it gets which makes it impossible to carry on a logical mature conversation with people like you, no offense. Even most atheists beleive in the historical Christ, they just deny His divinity, that's all.

  • I'm aware the bible has Pseudo History that some times even coincides somewhat with the history that was actually recorded by various sources of that time period. Jesus was Cesar.

    Lets forget that I'm a sane rational person for your next post. I want you to convince me with all the proof you have that God created everything. BTW don't use the bible. It should be simple unless you are a liar deluded by a fairy tale. Thanks!

  • If you're not convinced already, you never will be, without Divine Intervention in your life. You're mocking the Bible, calling it a fairy tale, writing it completely off before you even get started, so there honestly is no point in even further discussing it with you. You write off the historical value of the Bible, for which archaeologists continue to verify and discover as truth, but you write it all off, out of pure and utter pride and lack of honesty within yourself. It is that simple

  • I've seen many archaeologists prove that every single artifact that proved Christianity was a fraud

    So far you have been the only one lacking honesty with yourself and me. Yes it is that simple.

  • Not sure what "archaeologists" you're referring to, but the credible ones continue to find Biblical artifacts in abundance, and most honest people know this. Just a couple of years ago the tomb of King Herod was found, the king who ruled during the time of Christ' birth. This is just one example. No matter how much you try to distort the facts, people can and will do their own research and will discover how dishonest you are being all on their own.

  • "but the credible ones continue to find Biblical artifacts in abundance"

    Can you name one biblical supporting artifact found in the last ten years? More lies huh?

    Last find of great importance found that the Egyptians didn't use Jewish slaves to build the pyramids they used Pork eating Egyptians.

  • "Can you name one biblical supporting artifact found in the last ten years"

    -Already did buddy. Can't you read? Just a couple of years ago the tomb of King Herod was found, the same king who ruled during the time of the birth of Christ. But even so, why do the artifacts have to be found in the "last 10 years"? Is this your line of time in which archaeological findings are credible, only in the last 10 years? Nowhere in the Bible does it say the Jews built the pyramids. Next!

  • The tomb of King Herod doesn't prove that Christ died on a cross and went floating into the sky magically, sorry.

    At best it proves the bible, like I stated before, had small bits of pseudo history within it. At very best it Proves that the pagan roman records were correct in stating that they made Herod the king of the Jews.

  • There is plenty of proof of Christ existence on earth. Even several secular scholars agreed He was here. There is however zero proof of your made up assumptions, which are that He did not die on the cross and did not raise from the grave. This is simply something you deny yourself because if Jesus is who He said He is and who He claimed to be, you will be held accountable, and that is what you don't want. The fact is Jesus is either who He said and claimed to be or He is not. You've chosen not

  • "There is plenty of proof of Christ existence on earth"

    Yes Since Jesus is Cesar there is loads of proof.

  • You'll never listen. Its that simple. Nothing is "proof" to you if it contradicts your worldview of dying and that's it. You have no proof whatsoever that you will just die and cease to exist. Unless of course you have died and come back to talk about it. Have you?

  • LISTEN UP, YOUR WORLD VIEW CAN'T BE PROVEN OUTSIDE OF YOUR BOOK, if it could I'd be more than obliged to believe you.

    I'll have NO BODY WHEN I DIE what will I feel, with no body to feel? This spirit you can't prove?

    You are a Liar and a FOOL! By your fallacious false dichotomy What cannot be proven is fact. Your cult programming will have you reboot to chanting "this is evil Atheist trickery" because its the TRUTH and you can't stand Real Truth because your whole life is built on a lie.

  • "LISTEN UP, YOUR WORLD VIEW CAN'T BE PROVEN OUTSIDE OF YOUR BOOK, if it could I'd be more than obliged to believe you"

    -Not true, but you'll never believe me anyhow, and you won't listen. The Bible tells us why you're not listening. It doesn't matter what you believe. Your militant brand of atheism is the product of years of hatred and dispicable anger because you can't get anyone to convert to your deceptive lifestyle. The Truth is Jesus Christ. Not you, and not your fellow humanist pals.

  • Then prove your bible out side of itself

    You said it wasn't true so Prove it or forever accept the title of LIAR!

  • the Bible is proven to be true all the time by undeniable prophecy which you will try to deny until the Lord returns to no avail. I don't care if you call me a liar. I know the Truth, and it has set me free. The false accusations are to be expected. The Bible told us about this in Matthew 5:11-12

    so once again, thank you for affirming the precious Words of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the one you love to hate.

  • Again Mathew 5:11-12 does not prove the bible outside of itself. You are simply calling me a evil dishonest Atheist to avoid the point (ad hominem fallacy) just shutting off your brain like your cult programming instructs you to do when some truth starts to leak in is not Moral. I've proven you and your book to be lies.

    Even the bible says that your superstitious deity Satan you have faith in is a God of lies.

    Perhaps I've read you wrong and you are a Satanist not a hypocrite christian.

  • My life is built on the rock of salvation, Jesus Christ, the way, the Truth, and the Life. Your life is built on hatred, lies, mockery, scoffing, you name it.

    You've chosen that. Not me. You can name call all you'd like, you can mock my faith all you'd like, you can make up lies about me all you'd like, but guess what, people like you did the SAME THING to my Savior 2,000 years ago when He was on earth, so thank you for affirming the Scripture again. Matthew 5:11-12

    God bless you! Thanks!

  • WRONG My life is built on making a future for my child in a world full of crazy psychotic nuts like yourself that can't stop lying to them self because they live in Fear of death. People like you are so arrogant close minded. You want to talk shit to me and look like the good guy, but in the end of the debate you prove nothing after so many tries you have nothing that can prove, what does that say to you? Can you even think about that? ...have you become a zombie like your God Cesar?

  • "WRONG My life is built on making a future for my child in a world full of crazy psychotic nuts like yourself that can't stop lying to them self because they live in Fear of death."

    -There you go again with your vicious slander. Thank you again for affirming Matthew 5:11-12. God bless you! And by the way, when you know the Lord, death isn't something to be fearful of. The fact is you're the one who is scared, which is why you have to attack others who aren't with your vicious slander

  • Quoting things from a fairy tale book doesn't make it a fact BTW what version of your bible out of the hundreds out there should I look up your verse?

    by the context in the king James you are trying to say I'm not telling the truth, so I'd like you to read the current headlines

    "Hundreds slaughtered in Nigeria religious violence - Yahoo! News" over 300 Muslims killed by Christian violence! GOOGLE IT! and then tell me I'm Slandering your DEATH CULT!

  • Call it a fairy tale all you'd like. Again, when you die, you get to see if your humanistic worldview was correct.

    Your problem is you can't live and let live because you're angry and full of nasty hate.

  • Pascals wager fallacy with ad hominem fallacy you fail at logic

  • in September 2001 killed more than 1,000 people. Muslim-Christian battles killed up to 700 people in 2004. More than 300 residents died during a similar uprising in 2008.

    STOP DENYING THE TRUTH!

  • Can you tell me how the United States of America would be enjoying freedoms right now had we not won wars in our history?

    9-11-01 was the product of evil. Just as Stalin was the product of evil. Stalin was a militant atheist, just like yourself.

  • 9-11 was a product of your cults religious violence towards Islam don't cry when they bite you back. if this was a secular nation they wouldn't attack us for religious reasons.

  • "People like you are so arrogant close minded"

    -Look in the mirror and repeat this to yourself about 10,000 times, and perhaps you'll begin to see the light, but I doubt it.

  • "Look in the mirror and repeat this to yourself "

    What a Childish reply LOL it just go's to show your mentality.

  • If you want childish replies try reading all of your posts pal. You're whole life is devoted to lies and vicious intolerance of others who you can't get to convert to your hateful brand of atheism.

  • more ad hominem fallacy, still this doesn't prove the bible outside of the bible you fail

  • Listen I don't care how intelligent you think you are. The fact still remains that when you die you're going to find out if you were right or not. That's a fact, Jack.

  • Caesar was the god of the Pharisees, so he would've been your god 2,000 years ago, and you would've been right alongside the rest of the Pharisees spitting on Christ and mocking Him as He made His way to the cross.

  • Google: JESUS DIVUS JULIUS

    Jesus WAS Cesar!

  • But just for the record, its not "archaeology" that proves Christ, it is He who lives in your heart. You wouldn't know, sadly. But archaeology certainly has discovered numerous Biblical artifacts and proofs of Bible accounts, and continues to do so. It only affirms the faith, and even still people like you will continue to turn their backs on your Creator until the day you die, and then you'll find out if you were right. This is the chance you're willing to take. Foolish, but not surprising.

  • "Christ, it is He who lives in your heart. You wouldn't know,"

    Demons and ghosts living inside of a biological pump is a foolish primitive assumption from the Pre-Christian pagan era where they thought the mind lived in the heart not the brain we know the heart is a PUMP not large enough for another person to live even if they did somehow fit in there it would KILL you.

    This kind of Ignorance lets me know that your cult has no real knowledge just superstitious nonsense not worth my time

  • "Demons and ghosts living inside of a biological pump is a foolish primitive assumption from the Pre-Christian pagan era "

    -Then you're still a part of that era, because a demon has total control of your heart right now, whether you realize it or not. That's why you cannot see the Truth, Jesus Christ. I may not be "worth your time", but I can assure you Christ is. Whether you repent and come to Him before you die is entirely up to you. If you do things "your way" instead, not wise.

  • If Jesus had any truth you would be able to prove it but you are a liar. You need to give up your foolish sheep herder book and your gay love for a telepathic man zombie.

  • Jesus already proved Himself. You just don't believe in Him or the eye-witness accounts of Him on earth, that's all. Just as you deny the undeniable prophecy that is occurring right now as we speak, as the Bible foretold, especially with what's happening in Israel and the Holy Land. You're just scared that you don't know the Truth, so you mock and ridicule people like myself who do. Again, if you're right, then go with it and see what happens. See if "your way" does you any good when you die.

  • "You're just scared that you don't know the Truth, so you mock and ridicule people like myself who do"

    This comment of yours is so fallacious.

    If I don't know the Truth of something I ask questions of people who claim to know the truth, but you sir have answered nothing of any of my questions. You continue to dodge any and all questions I've put forth.

    Logically anyone reading your statements will conclude you are afraid of telling the truth regardless how many times you may call me a liar.

  • I already did answer your questions. You just don't like the answers you were given, that's all. Fact is you could be given all the answers in the world, but unless you repent and come to Christ, you will never listen. This is covered in Scripture as well. The Truth is Jesus Christ is the Savior of mankind. he is Lord of all. That my friend is the Truth. So who's afraid of telling the truth you say?

  • No you haven't proven anything your religion claims outside of your bible. You used Trickery and loopholes to explain why you Must use your book to prove your book. I used the example of Alice in wonderland to show your error, but you closed your eyes to the truth and called me a evil prophesy. You claimed Proof of artifacts, you told me of of Herod; this doesn't prove Christianity it proves Roman history.

    You haven't proven anything that's why I'm still an ex-christian

  • "No you haven't proven anything your religion claims outside of your bible"

    -Again, I'll use the Bible as much as need be as it is the Truth. It is God's precious Word, and you don't get to tell me not to use it because you are no authority despite your striving lust for power and control that is in your heart. You're an "ex" Christians because you were never a true Christian to begin with. You are accurately described in Scripture.

  • "still people like you will continue to turn their backs on your Creator until the day you die, and then you'll find out if you were right. This is the chance you're willing to take. Foolish, but not surprising."

    pascals wager Fail!

  • Your choice. Again, if you're right, you will simply cease to exist when you take your last breath and your whole life on earth will amount to a meaningless accident, again, if you're right. But if you're wrong....

    You just can't handle being wrong, that's all.

  • "you will simply cease to exist when you take your last breath and your whole life on earth will amount to a meaningless accident"

    This is the Key to what separates us, you view your life greater than the future. You see this one point in time as your trash can on the way to paradise. Your reckless destructive world view is killing the planet and you feel justified here and now. I'm looking to the future even past the future to events I will not be a part of, that is something you can not do.

  • I view my life as created by God and you don't. That's the difference. I don't have a wreckless destructive worldview. That's what you have. Because I believe in life eternally, while you believe in death eternally. So what's more destructive? Life? or death? I'm also looking to the future, and I know what it holds for my eternity, thanks to my precious Savior Jesus Christ, not because of anything I've done.

  • Your world view is reckless because you view this place as a pit stop on the way to eternity that you can trash.

    You Gleefully await the destruction of this planet because you BELIEVE your deity will come back and save you from yourself. That is your vision of the future total annihilation of humanity to appease your imagined, coherently undefinable Deity that only exists in your brain as a delusion Your Precious Savior is CESAR! Open a history book and discover you have been tricked by FOOLS!

  • I'm not trashing the planet buddy, so keep making up dispicable lies. Its all atheists-the militant ones-like yourself do. I view the earth as God's magnificent beautiful planet that He created in all His glory. You view it as a product of NOTHING but naturalistic materialism. Your vision is that all Christians should be annihilated. That is what you wish. I wish for everyone to come to Christ and experience the love and joy and forgiveness and eternity that He gives. You're so angry and hateful

  • "I'm not trashing the planet buddy"

    So you don't believe in heaven or life after death? You don't believe this planet is a temporary place, a pit stop on the way to eternal bliss?

  • LOL. How is believing in heaven or life after death "trashing the planet"?

    God created this planet buddy, just as He created heaven. Jesus Christ is going to reign from THIS PLANET for 1,000 years when He returns. The planet that HE Created. He is going to reign from the new Jerusalem in Israel, as it is written. My eternity is wherever Christ is. That is heaven. He will be here live and in person on THIS EARTH for 1,000 years, and I'll be right alongside Him with all His other children.

  • "How is believing in heaven or life after death "trashing the planet"?"

    I believe DeistPaladin said it best:

    Belief in an afterlife, particularly one with a faith-based salvation message cheapens the value of this life.

    basically you think destroying this planet will bring back Jesus faster and he will come fix all your problems with magic and there will be peace for 1000 years and you will be his yes man and get to clip his toe nails for ever.

    What a waste of all the efforts of humanity.

  • Do you think I really care what DeistPaladin said?

    I'm not harming your life whatsoever buddy, and you aren't the victim. Again, if you want to believe nothing is going to happen when you die, then that's your right. Meanwhile stop trying to shove your militant atheism down everyone's throats and live and let live.

    You don't get to force change someone's faith. Just like I can't force you to stop believing in absolutely nothing but death. Because that's what you believe in. Death.

  • I don't think you care about anyone but your shallow little self

  • Look in the mirror buddy. that's you.

  • Obviously if I look in a mirror I'll see a reflection of me, but how does that prove the bible out side of the bible here in reality?

  • And you continue to lie, lie and lie some more. You don't know me, have never met me. You're just angry and terrified inside so you have to spend every day waking up pushing your militant atheism on others in order to temporarily make yourself "feel better" inside. Not working, is it?

  • I'll feel better when I go to sleep For now You are just my toy. I kick you and you softly bounce back to get kicked again. =)

    I'm just wondering if you are learning anything or if you are just on a cultist reboot session. You need to look up "Logical Fallacies" Your Propaganda is using you to make cash because you are too ignorant to understand what a fallacy even is. you sound like a big fan of con man Kent Hovind he couldn't prove anything either all his nonsense is debunked ...to death

  • "You need to look up "Logical Fallacies"

    -Don't need to, you demonstrate them in each and every one of your posts. I'm not making any cash off of any of this buddy, and you can take that to the bank (no pun intended).

    Again, you're just furious that you can't get everyone to convert to your militant vicious brand of atheism, which is why you've created the youtube account "GodKillerAtheist" in order to draw attention to your self. Life is all about YOU. And nobody else.

  • "Don't need to, you demonstrate them in each and every one of your posts"

    I'd like you to point one out then.

    So far your entire argument is fallacious ad hominem!

    Prove your point that the bible can be proven outside of the bible or else stop replying to me.

    Calling me a evil Atheist that wants to convert you is not proof of your bible outside of your bible. its a ad hominem fallacy. That makes you a liar and you lose the argument to any one viewing the conversation.

  • You don't want proof of the Bible. If you did, you'd look for it on your own.Your sole mission in life is to mock and ridicule others who don't convert to your hateful form of atheism. Again, live and let live. You are more harmful to yourself more than anything.

  • more absurd ad hominem attacks to draw attention away from the point you can't prove

  • And you don't get to tell anyone not to use the Bible either. (this is what all atheists do..they accept any source outside of the Bible but not the Bible itself which was recorded by the actual eye-witnesses who were there during the time).

    Good day to you!

  • I can prove Alice in Wonderland is Pure fact as long as I use the book to prove itself. If I want real answers I don't want you to prove the book is correct by using the book and that's all dirty lying Theists can do.

    Your EYE witnesses existed maybe fifty to one hundred years after the myth of Jesus had circulated enough like a telephone game. The church destroyed many of the Gospels because everyone was writing them to make cash, it was a huge scam and the church wanted power and money.

  • The Bible doesn't lie, and your false accusations are nothing I haven't seen before. You see my friend, this is all you can do. You HAVE to ridicule and falsely accuse others of the things that YOU are actually doing (lying), in order to push your agenda. You're no different then liberal politicians, really. You're pushing an agenda through lying and deception.

    Christ doesn't care about power and your money. Try reading the Gospels and the rest of the NT and you'd clearly see this.

  • "You're no different then liberal politicians"

    I'm a antiabortion pro gun republican

    I've read the gospels your inability to understand this is a lie.

  • If you've read the Gospels this explains why you are anti-abortion. The Truth is in your heart, even though you don't want to admit it

    ;)

  • But as I said, just because you've read the Gospels doesn't mean you believe in them.

    Tell me, what do you see so wrong about loving one another, loving your enemies, and doing good to those who persecute you?

    Do you call these things a "fairy tale"?

  • By the way I'm a Conservative, pro-gun and anti-abortion.

    I bet you hate the fact that you are in agreement with me on some issues :)

  • Prove that Christ is a myth. You can't.

  • "Prove that Christ is a myth. You can't."

    You can't disprove a negative. Without any proof of Christ there is nothing to disprove.

  • Prove that Christ is a negative mr atheist.

  • And again, even most atheists don't deny Christ existence, they merely don't believe in His divinity, that's all.

    You are a part of the new militant atheist movement that has devouted your time and efforts to trying to disprove Jesus Christ' existence. False documentaries like "Zeitgest" have helped with your militant cause. Notice you don't focus on any other historical figure, just Christ? You want to disprove Christ, but don't care about Muhammed or Buddha's existence. Notice that?

  • 2 Peter 1:16

    We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

    -Peter wrote this, and Peter was a direct disciple of Christ. He walked right alongside Him.

    What eye-witnesses do you have to present to Darwin's version of "history'?

  • nor did Alice think it so very much out of the way to hear the Rabbit say to itself, `Oh dear! Oh dear! I shall be late!'

    -Alice was a direct eye witness of the rabbit she followed him down the rabbit hole and heard his words.

    Your DNA, Fossils, Erv's

    What outside of the bible can prove your fairy tale?

    I can prove rabbits dig holes so Alice in wonderland is more credible than the bible so far .. your turn.

  • DNA, Fossils, etc...all point towards a Designer, not an "evolver"..

    lol. There's no arguing the evidence. I love fossils and DNA. That's not the issue. The issue is the Darwinian false interpretation and blind assumption of the things we can see with our own eyes, and the made-up timelines.

    That's the problem

    True Science points towards Design in Nature, not "evolution". But you see, the irony in it all is you call the Bible a fairy tale, yet Darwin's story has ZERO eyewitnesses

  • So by definition Darwin's silly book would fall under the category of a fairy tale, since it contains no eye-witnesses, no direct or indirect accounts, no true historical facts, nothing. Its just a concocted story, based on philosophical assumptions, not eye-witnessed facts, and you very well know it, you're just too proud to admit it, which is why you have to mock the Bible...because inside you know you don't have a case.

  • I can prove the fact of Evolution without any books can you prove the religion of creationism without yours?

    Ah that's right you already said you couldn't. Guess that's why Evolution through natural selection is still a fact like it's always been for the last 150 years. =)

  • "I can prove the fact of Evolution without any books"

    -lol. Um no, you can't. It was a book (Darwin's the Origin of Species by means of Natural Selection), which made evolution main-stream to begin with. I don't follow a "religion". That's what you follow.

    You follow a book that was written 150 years ago. Darwin is basically your "messiah".

  • "You follow a book that was written 150 years ago. Darwin is basically your "messiah". "

    Honestly Darwin's book was so boring, it was so inaccurate of what science knows now about evolution.

    Darwin didn't have electricity he didn't have fossils, he didn't even have DNA or a microscope that could look at bacteria. We have come so far in our understanding in 150 years the facts of evolution are undeniable. All Darwin did was prime the pump with one grand idea that gave us biology and genetics

  • LOL. You call Darwin's book "boring", but then you admit it started 150 years ago, when Darwin wrote it..

    :)

    Again, nothing wrong with biology and genetics. It is your interpretation of the facts that is the problem.

    True Science points towards Design in Nature, and no true intellectually honest person can deny this.

  • Cambrian explosion drove Darwin nuts.

  • "Darwin is basically your "messiah". "

    Perhaps I read this wrong maybe you were crying for help and trying to tell me that messiah worship is wrong.

    The real you must be slipping past the childhood Jesus programming.

  • No, wrong Messiah worship is wrong. Not Messiah worship.

    Worshipping the Lord Jesus Christ is awesome, as we love Him, because He first loved us, and He is our heavenly Father.

    The "darwin programming" is evident in your posts. :)

  • LOL darwin programming is that a new show on TV showing how animals evolved you should watch it because you sound like a uneducated nut that believes in fairy tales you can't prove out side of your fairy tale book.

    Grow up what are you 40 (only old people believe in this crap) and you still believe in unicorns and fish, men can live inside for 40 days and nights?

    How is loving a man NOT GAY! You go love your MAN zombie I'll find me a sexy woman.

  • You speak of love as if love must mean that you desire sexual relations with a person. How absurd. So you don't believe you can love others without desiring them in the flesh? How patently dishonest and immoral. I happen to be married with 4 beautiful children and my wife and I are one. She is a Godsend. The LORD brought her in my life and I am forever grateful for her. Again, if you are right about your belief in nothing, it will be confirmed when you die. So go with it and see what happens.

  • Good to hear you have a nice life, but I'm 100% sure your wife was interested in more than your beliefs.

    I'm sure if you were flat broke and unattractive to her your beliefs wouldn't mean squat. Genetics got you your wife to be attracted, hard work got you money to afford four children. God did nothing but take all the credit. When you do something horrible do you credit that to God also? You need better critical thinking skills.

  • My wife and I weren't even Christians when we met, so you really have no idea what you're talking about, besides, who are you to claim anything about my wife and my family? Btw, when I met my wife, I WAS flat broke. Literally. You need the Lord Jesus my friend. What you're doing is not worth it in the end.

  • In the end like every other Muslim you don't get back up from your grave.

    What you are doing is making humanity stupid and credulous. Our entire species will die on this planet a testament to the more advanced species that I hope live outside our solar system, of how religion is a deadly virus. They will look in horror of the centuries religion Murdered people in the name of a mental disorder. You are so sick you can't even see your errors in logic you just keep rebooting to the fear. Sad!

  • Your Darwinian world view is what fueled the likes of the Stalin's and Hitler's in the world. Not saying you're a Hitler, but there's no denying you share his philosophy about "species".You're right, "religion" is a deadly virus, including your religious view of secular humanism, which has caused more death and destruction than any other religious world view.That's why I don't follow "religion", but rather the way, the Truth,and the Life, Jesus Christ, instead. You don't need "religion" with Him

  • "Stalin's and Hitler's in the world. Not saying you're a Hitler,"

    Debate over I call Goodwins Law YOU FAIL LOL!

    I'd love for you to name one act of secular Humanism that's killed anyone. You sound like a Kent Hovind lecture LOL! Jesus is Cesar!

  • Stalin was a devout atheist. It is the humanistic worldview that drove Hitler to slaughter 6 million Jews. Hitler and the Nazis thought they were doing the world a "favor" by trying to rid it of Jews. They used Darwinian philosophy to justify this. As Hitler thought the Jews were an "inferior race" in the evolutionary spectrum. "Survival of the fittest" at its best.

  • Goodwins LAW fail #2 Debate over!!!!!!

    listen to your comment why kill Jews? can't you put 2n2 together? Hitler was a Right wing Conservative christian he was killing the Jews because the Jews Killed Christ. You have been tricked by people trying to make money off propaganda.

    I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.

    Adolf Hitler

    Mein Kampf

  • Hitler hated Christianity buddy. And I already knew you were going to bring up this garbage because all athiests do it. So to rebuke your ridiculous absurd claim(even though you clearly already know that Jesus Christ tells us to love one another, not slaughter 6 million Jews, as JESUS was a JEW Himself on earth, the KING of the Jews as a matter of fact, here you go (see next post):

  • Hitler wanted POWER! your claims are beyond absurd

  • Exactly, Hitler wanted power, and more power, just as you want power, and more power. That's what humanism is all about, making humans the POWER over everything because humanists don't believe that there is a higher authority other than HUMANS.

  • Reductio ad Hitlerum

    a humanist is someone that cares about humanity do you hate humanity? I could call you a misanthropist I suppose for your hatred of humans

    The dictionary definition for humanist is:

    1.a person having a strong interest in or concern for human welfare, values, and dignity.

    2.a person devoted to or versed in the humanities.

    3.a student of human nature or affairs.

    4.a classical scholar.

  • Misanthropic Liar, that name suits you well. Thank you for being honest for once about what you really are.

  • Go ahead and call me childish names and insult me as much as you'd like. You only affirm the faith every time you do. Matthew 5:11-12. Again, you are no different than every militant atheist on the internet who hides behind a computer screen insulting people for whom you can't get to convert to your militant vicious brand of humanism.

  • I'm not calling you names from your comments you are what I've deduced I'm not calling you a faggot or a bitch or a fuckwit like a child would.

    I'm calling you what you have shown me you are a misanthropic Liar, you said you hate humanist so you are a misanthrope and you can't prove the bible outside of the bible so you're a liar.

  • "I'm calling you what you have shown me you are a misanthropic Liar, you said you hate humanist so you are a misanthrope and you can't prove the bible outside of the bible so you're a liar"

    -Nowhere did I say I "hate" humanists". This is just you trying to play the "victim" role, while trashing me with insult, after insult, after insult. Hate the sin, love the sinner.

    And you sir are a pathological sinner.

  • You haven't proved sin, you said it just is. The fact is you are a liar

    1 you can't prove the bible outside of the bible like you said you could. that makes you a LIAR

    2 you said humanism is evil. That makes you a misanthorpist.(hatter of humanity)

    And YOU Sir are trying to play the victim because I've shown the snake its fangs. Now slither back into your dark deep hole I'm tired of your foolish lies.

  • Only a fool could believe a book that says you're a fool if you don't believe it is real and not fairy tale, a fool!

  • Keep thinking that.

  • Hitler may in public have claimed to be doing the will of God, but records of his private conversations show otherwise. Many of these were recorded by his secretary and published in a book called Hitler's Table Talk (Adolf Hitler, London, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, 1953).:

    Night of 11th-12th July, 1941 :

    "Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." (p 6 & 7)

    -Hitler promoting EVOLUTION! Imagine that! (next)

  • He did what he did for Power not because no one could prove a invisible deity!

  • More Adolph Hitler quotes:

    "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... "

    14th October, 1941, midday

    "The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... "

  • As I said Hitler did what he did for power not the lack of theists to convince him that there was a deity.

    Even thought the fact Nazism in it self was a christian ideology Germany was a Highly christian country why would they let a hard core militant atheist take over? Only a liar could say Hitler wasn't a christian he DIED killing the Jews because they killed Jesus

    You can read a hand full of propaganda quotes on Jewish sites, but I've read his entire book with My own eyes He was a christian

  • Jesus CAME to die on the cross and raise from the grave. that's what Jesus CAME to do.

    Also, Jesus Christ tells us to love one another an love our enemies, and pray for those who persecute us. Did Hitler do these things?

    Again, if you think for one instant that I haven't heard the aburd insane lie that Adolph Hitler, one of the most evil men in history, was a "Christian", then think again.. Tell me, how did HITLER follow Christ' example? Think buddy. I gave you Hitler's direct quotes

  • He attacked Christianity just like YOU do. This is historical fact. Hitler wanted to be worshipped himself. He wanted people to bow down to him. Hence the Nazis and the "Sieg Heil" chant. He used schools to brainwash children into singing songs declaring him as "GOD". These are again historical facts. Your lies do nothing to change history, despite your relentless efforts to do so.

  • Hitler is starting to sound more and more like the things YOU are saying

    13th December, 1941, midnight

    "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery."

  • You still don't get it Regarding Hitler even if he was a pure hard core atheist he did what he did for POWER not the lack of proof for a deity. I swear you have NO Brain. You have got to be the MOST credulous person afraid of death I've ever met but still you will die and you will not find Zues or Allah Johova or YAHWEH since you won't have a body to find anything with.

  • Atheists want "power" and control of the masses as well. Just as Stalin. Also, you want to control what people learn, and prevent them from being able to scrutinize or even critique Darwinian evolution in any way. You want the power to control people's thoughts, and lives. That's why you've used any avenue in our culture to do so. You don't afford others the right to oppose your worldview, because again, you're full of nothing but hatred and anger towards any opposition of YOU