Ayami kojima is far more the masterpiece of her own artwork. Her style of gothic made a perfect fit for castlevania since symphony of the night. Also i love Michiru yamane's tunes. kind of creepy music which is awsome!!
I'll bet you $20 I've been playing Castlevania longer than you have. Besides, the Castlevania games back then took actual skill. Not like the ones today.
@KoruKinshi thee old games took skills because they had stiff controls, no mid-air jump control etc. don't think i'm a fool, i know well how cv 1 and 3 are, and about cv 2... i never liked it as i don't like harmony of dissonance (the direct sequel in storyline) oh and... how old were you when you started playing? cause probably you will owe me 20$
@yoster39 I first played Castlevania when it came out to the US back in '87 when I was 6. Back then I didn't know about the MSX. But it was the best Christmas present of my life, heh.
@KoruKinshi of course, due to my date of birth i couldn't do that but... i started playing when i was 4. guess it's a tie about that XD
castlevania is a part of my life (and it seems your's too) and you should not say things like damn iga. and generally people stop with the hatinng on the ps2 cv's. the real problem is the new castlevania on ps3, which looks a lot like a god of war clone. and i think every castlevania fan don't want that to happen.
Lol, fuck Sonia Belmont, ääh I mean Alucard fucked her, do you really think its so nice that the "Belmonts" actually are descandt of the tepes family?
Leon is the greatest of all Belmonts, so please, shut the fuck up
@BlacK40k Leon's a whiny emo git that shouldn't exist. Simon would pimp slap that woman with one hand tied behind his back.
And there's a large following of fans who appreciate the original Legends story. I still have my copy. In any case, let it go. Castlevania was important long before Lament of Ignorance and Symphony of the Night.
Without him, no Belmont would exist, so, epic fail. Your opinion is okay about Sonia Belmont, but Leon was just before her, and I think too its NOT okay that the whole Belmont Family after Sonia are Descendants of Dracula himself, they just should change the Parents of Trevor
I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure Leon was a retcon. In the old Castlevania games, the Belmonts were a different kind of force entirely, and by old, I mean all the way through SOTN, and somewhat on into the excellent "sorrow" games. Other games since then have tried to make the main characters all pale, slim and emo, whether they were vampires or not, and I'm just not into that.
I dont think so. Okay I must admit he doenst look so masculin like Trevor or Simon did before, but only real "Emothing" about him is the tragic End of his Story, and you must admit that he got the most tragic ending of all Belmonts, about his look we can argue, but I think his look does fit well in a "horror" game like Castlevania
See, that's the thing. Leon did things that I could never imagine any other Belmont ever being willing to do, in order to accomplish his goals. Julius, Simon, Trevor, Richter, etc, etc... all seem like basically decent guys with firm morals and really bad life situations, but Leon didn't just have a bad situation. He actually sacrificed somebody else's life in order to defeat his enemy. Yes, it tore him up, but he still did it. Not cool. Way not cool.
His wife wanted it like that, and because he loves her, he took the "torment on his shoulders" and followed her wish, you should listen again what he says to mathias when mathias admit that he became a vampire, he said to dracula that he did this all to follow the wish of his beloved wife, or you really think he sacrafice her only to kill walter? the actual goal of the game is to take sara back
Murdering is still murdering. Even if they want you to kill them, it's still wrong. I excuse it with undead characters like the vampires, and with non-human monsters, but Sara clearly gave up hope, and Leon should have done the noble thing and tried to reassure her that they'd find a way to undo what Walter did, even if he had no idea how.
P.S.: If the point is to recover Sara, how come you don't do that by the end of the game?
Stupid. You think its HER WILL to become a Vampire? She died and give her soul for other innocent people to protect, to found another way, no... not to respect the wish of sara would show that Leon would only think about himself and that he actually dont loving her. You should play the game again, of course he wanted to find another way.
I didn't say it was her will to become a vampire. I said she gave up hope, and made a choice that essentially amounts to voluntarily consigning herself to Limbo. This was NOT a good choice on her part, and it was just as bad for Leon to agree to it, especially if he actually cared about what happened to her.
P.S.: To "love" someone does NOT mean doing what they tell you. It means that you do what it best for them.
1. I didnt say that you said that she wants to become a vampire
2. How you want to know that she "gave up hope"? its a fucking game
3. It was very bad for leon, or you think he sacrafice his whole family and his bloodline to become vampire hunters?
4. Of course he cared what happens to her, at first, he didnt want to take her cursed soul to create the vampire killer... and of course he wanted the best, as i said, play the game or search for cutscene on youtube
This takes place in 1094 Europe. That means that, like everyone from that time period, Sara was well aware that her soul had a specific purpose; to ascend to the afterlife. It's this that she gave up on.
And yes, it was bad. In fact, it was evil. Interfering with a soul's path to the afterlife makes Leon just as bad as a vampire, in that respect. At least with vampires, you can free their souls by killing them.
Interfering? I told you now like 89325982357982375982375 times that he didnt want to sacrafice Sara, he wanted another way, he wanted the best for her, but SHE didnt want it, her wish was that other people are saved from such evil like walter did to her, and no, i dont think that in her mind she thought her "purpose" is to become vampire food, lol
Yes. You do keep saying that. Apparently, he didn't want it. Apparently, she didn't want it, yet both of them participated in doing this evil thing nonetheless. One of the most basic truths of ethics (and the very point where good and evil are differentiated from one another) is that one must never do evil so that good may come of it. You don't have to be a psychopath, or scheme cruelly in order to do something terribly evil. You just have to compromise. Leon did. Sara did.
I see, I know what you mean and you are right. But it doesnt make Sara evil, it doesnt make Leon evil because at last Sara took something positive out of this evil what Walter did to her... she sacraficed herself to protect other People, and thats something like a holy Act she did there. Also you dont need to forget she had a little time left... what would happen if she became a vampire? A evil they led grown so that evil can spread more evil... In my opinion thats evil too..
Well, sure. But it's not evil that you actively participate in.
Anyway, I guess that was the only point I wanted to make. I didn't mean to imply that Leon or Sara was rotten to the core; just that they did one evil thing together, which I couldn't picture Richter, Simon or the others wanting any part of. It kind of soured it for me.
In the Castlevania Story the Vampires are like the most strongest creature of the night, and Dracula as the "King" also rule Death, and Death is a thing with "divine Power". If there would be another Way, Rinaldo would know about it... Not like you, I cannot see any evil in this sacrafice Sara made or in Leons respect he gave to the last wish of his wife. I think thats the special about Leon's story and that whats make him the first belmont and the start of Castlevania.
I guess I'm not sure where you're going with this. We arrived at a stalemate. I admitted that they weren't irredeemably evil; just horribly misguided in one particular situation. I explained my reasoning, and you agreed. Are you going back on that?
However, on a completely separate note, it's getting hard to find masculine game protagonists who aren't total jerks. I honestly think the massive cultural drive to crush masculinity completely is one of the main reasons why God of War was so popular.
Thats true... Look at the Belmonts, Leon for example is slim, while Richter ane even the New version of Simon (chronicles Version) are still very muscular. Kratos from God of war is in my opinion a little "special" Character, because he is like the personification of masculin beeing but also his character and gameplay is depend on his masculin appereance. But I think in future, game characters will be more muscular again, also Gabriel Belmont in Lords of Shadows was huge, lol
When I specially think about it, Leon was the most slim of all Belmonts. If we look on the modernized Version of Trevor or Simon, they still got a big biceps for example, lol
Trevor is okay I think, rapid change on Simon Belmont, his old Version looked like a swedish Barbarian or just Conan, after it he got red hair and a very funny domina-looking Outfit
Yeah. I actually kind of liked the Conan look somewhat, though I though Richter's outfit was better suited to the whole vampire hunter thing. There's kind of a mix between a warrior and a civilized man to be found there, whereas you know both are present with Trevor and Simon, but more on the inside than the outside.
I think they should reduce the muscles on a "athletic" level. I think Trevor got the best modernized Version of every Belmont, the new Richter on Dracula X Chronicles is somewhat too slim I think, about Simon, I think this look does fit him very well, the old barbarian look wasnt bad too, but he was too mascular, like a Bodybuilder... I think this was a Arnold Schwarzenegger Trend and they made the first Simon after this Picture
Yeah, I think you may be right. For someone fighting vampires, the most important thing, naturally, would be not getting hit, so while it makes no sense for a vampire hunter to be skinny, per se, it's also hard to picture them surviving long with exceptionally bulky muscles, since they just can't match the superhuman strength of the vampires.
On they other hand, if they do possess superhuman strength, they can be as bulky as they need to be. The Kratos equation again.
where can i get the music? I badly want it!!!!!
shb8739 1 year ago
0:16 - 0:30 reminds me of car select from F-Zero X for N64
kirbysuperstar5 1 year ago
Music Epic!, Battle Epic!!
TheSirvladimr 1 year ago
Ewww. That 3D picture of Sonia Belmont looks like an angry cross dresser man.
Charleyx10 1 year ago
Hey, I like the music! Where can I get it?
greenii 1 year ago
Where's Shanoa?
LordofDragns 1 year ago 2
Ayami kojima is far more the masterpiece of her own artwork. Her style of gothic made a perfect fit for castlevania since symphony of the night. Also i love Michiru yamane's tunes. kind of creepy music which is awsome!!
Andrew824100 1 year ago
Yay. You didn't leave out Juste Belmont. He's so underlooked.
TranceCore3 2 years ago
Not to sound mean but Simon in that outfit he may as well be singing lesbian transvestite song.
beatcher1 2 years ago
Richter FTW
iammr24 2 years ago
there is to john/johnathan morris 0_0
littlesaiyan 2 years ago
Alucard,then Simon for me,and also Richter.
thegreatcyke4ever 2 years ago
lol Cristopher f***s up the storyline
yoster39 2 years ago 8
Lol Christopher is the bastard son of the belmonts that nobody likes
littlesaiyan 2 years ago
@yoster39
No, Leon screwed up the story line. It was a crime when they retconned Sonia Belmont for that 'woman'. Damn Igarashi...
KoruKinshi 1 year ago
@KoruKinshi you... said... damn iga? you're not a castlevania fan.
and leon is a lot better than other belmonts like simon, who dies every time he gets hit because there was a pit behind him
yoster39 1 year ago
@yoster39
I'll bet you $20 I've been playing Castlevania longer than you have. Besides, the Castlevania games back then took actual skill. Not like the ones today.
KoruKinshi 1 year ago
@KoruKinshi thee old games took skills because they had stiff controls, no mid-air jump control etc. don't think i'm a fool, i know well how cv 1 and 3 are, and about cv 2... i never liked it as i don't like harmony of dissonance (the direct sequel in storyline) oh and... how old were you when you started playing? cause probably you will owe me 20$
yoster39 1 year ago
@yoster39 I first played Castlevania when it came out to the US back in '87 when I was 6. Back then I didn't know about the MSX. But it was the best Christmas present of my life, heh.
KoruKinshi 1 year ago
@KoruKinshi of course, due to my date of birth i couldn't do that but... i started playing when i was 4. guess it's a tie about that XD
castlevania is a part of my life (and it seems your's too) and you should not say things like damn iga. and generally people stop with the hatinng on the ps2 cv's. the real problem is the new castlevania on ps3, which looks a lot like a god of war clone. and i think every castlevania fan don't want that to happen.
yoster39 1 year ago
@yoster39 Then it would appear that we have something in common, the dislike of the new Castlevania included. :)
KoruKinshi 1 year ago
@KoruKinshi
Lol, fuck Sonia Belmont, ääh I mean Alucard fucked her, do you really think its so nice that the "Belmonts" actually are descandt of the tepes family?
Leon is the greatest of all Belmonts, so please, shut the fuck up
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k Leon's a whiny emo git that shouldn't exist. Simon would pimp slap that woman with one hand tied behind his back.
And there's a large following of fans who appreciate the original Legends story. I still have my copy. In any case, let it go. Castlevania was important long before Lament of Ignorance and Symphony of the Night.
KoruKinshi 1 year ago
@KoruKinshi
Without him, no Belmont would exist, so, epic fail. Your opinion is okay about Sonia Belmont, but Leon was just before her, and I think too its NOT okay that the whole Belmont Family after Sonia are Descendants of Dracula himself, they just should change the Parents of Trevor
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure Leon was a retcon. In the old Castlevania games, the Belmonts were a different kind of force entirely, and by old, I mean all the way through SOTN, and somewhat on into the excellent "sorrow" games. Other games since then have tried to make the main characters all pale, slim and emo, whether they were vampires or not, and I'm just not into that.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
I dont think so. Okay I must admit he doenst look so masculin like Trevor or Simon did before, but only real "Emothing" about him is the tragic End of his Story, and you must admit that he got the most tragic ending of all Belmonts, about his look we can argue, but I think his look does fit well in a "horror" game like Castlevania
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
See, that's the thing. Leon did things that I could never imagine any other Belmont ever being willing to do, in order to accomplish his goals. Julius, Simon, Trevor, Richter, etc, etc... all seem like basically decent guys with firm morals and really bad life situations, but Leon didn't just have a bad situation. He actually sacrificed somebody else's life in order to defeat his enemy. Yes, it tore him up, but he still did it. Not cool. Way not cool.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
His wife wanted it like that, and because he loves her, he took the "torment on his shoulders" and followed her wish, you should listen again what he says to mathias when mathias admit that he became a vampire, he said to dracula that he did this all to follow the wish of his beloved wife, or you really think he sacrafice her only to kill walter? the actual goal of the game is to take sara back
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
Murdering is still murdering. Even if they want you to kill them, it's still wrong. I excuse it with undead characters like the vampires, and with non-human monsters, but Sara clearly gave up hope, and Leon should have done the noble thing and tried to reassure her that they'd find a way to undo what Walter did, even if he had no idea how.
P.S.: If the point is to recover Sara, how come you don't do that by the end of the game?
P.P.S.: Yes, I really think he sacrificed her.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
Stupid. You think its HER WILL to become a Vampire? She died and give her soul for other innocent people to protect, to found another way, no... not to respect the wish of sara would show that Leon would only think about himself and that he actually dont loving her. You should play the game again, of course he wanted to find another way.
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
I didn't say it was her will to become a vampire. I said she gave up hope, and made a choice that essentially amounts to voluntarily consigning herself to Limbo. This was NOT a good choice on her part, and it was just as bad for Leon to agree to it, especially if he actually cared about what happened to her.
P.S.: To "love" someone does NOT mean doing what they tell you. It means that you do what it best for them.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
1. I didnt say that you said that she wants to become a vampire
2. How you want to know that she "gave up hope"? its a fucking game
3. It was very bad for leon, or you think he sacrafice his whole family and his bloodline to become vampire hunters?
4. Of course he cared what happens to her, at first, he didnt want to take her cursed soul to create the vampire killer... and of course he wanted the best, as i said, play the game or search for cutscene on youtube
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
This takes place in 1094 Europe. That means that, like everyone from that time period, Sara was well aware that her soul had a specific purpose; to ascend to the afterlife. It's this that she gave up on.
And yes, it was bad. In fact, it was evil. Interfering with a soul's path to the afterlife makes Leon just as bad as a vampire, in that respect. At least with vampires, you can free their souls by killing them.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
Interfering? I told you now like 89325982357982375982375 times that he didnt want to sacrafice Sara, he wanted another way, he wanted the best for her, but SHE didnt want it, her wish was that other people are saved from such evil like walter did to her, and no, i dont think that in her mind she thought her "purpose" is to become vampire food, lol
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
Yes. You do keep saying that. Apparently, he didn't want it. Apparently, she didn't want it, yet both of them participated in doing this evil thing nonetheless. One of the most basic truths of ethics (and the very point where good and evil are differentiated from one another) is that one must never do evil so that good may come of it. You don't have to be a psychopath, or scheme cruelly in order to do something terribly evil. You just have to compromise. Leon did. Sara did.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
I see, I know what you mean and you are right. But it doesnt make Sara evil, it doesnt make Leon evil because at last Sara took something positive out of this evil what Walter did to her... she sacraficed herself to protect other People, and thats something like a holy Act she did there. Also you dont need to forget she had a little time left... what would happen if she became a vampire? A evil they led grown so that evil can spread more evil... In my opinion thats evil too..
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
Well, sure. But it's not evil that you actively participate in.
Anyway, I guess that was the only point I wanted to make. I didn't mean to imply that Leon or Sara was rotten to the core; just that they did one evil thing together, which I couldn't picture Richter, Simon or the others wanting any part of. It kind of soured it for me.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
In the Castlevania Story the Vampires are like the most strongest creature of the night, and Dracula as the "King" also rule Death, and Death is a thing with "divine Power". If there would be another Way, Rinaldo would know about it... Not like you, I cannot see any evil in this sacrafice Sara made or in Leons respect he gave to the last wish of his wife. I think thats the special about Leon's story and that whats make him the first belmont and the start of Castlevania.
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
I guess I'm not sure where you're going with this. We arrived at a stalemate. I admitted that they weren't irredeemably evil; just horribly misguided in one particular situation. I explained my reasoning, and you agreed. Are you going back on that?
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
Nono, just added something so you can understand my point better
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
Alright. I can understand why you'd feel that way.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
Also I can understand you, you are one that I m pretty sure, started with Castlevania already on the SNES.
BlacK40k 1 year ago
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@BlacK40k
However, on a completely separate note, it's getting hard to find masculine game protagonists who aren't total jerks. I honestly think the massive cultural drive to crush masculinity completely is one of the main reasons why God of War was so popular.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
Thats true... Look at the Belmonts, Leon for example is slim, while Richter ane even the New version of Simon (chronicles Version) are still very muscular. Kratos from God of war is in my opinion a little "special" Character, because he is like the personification of masculin beeing but also his character and gameplay is depend on his masculin appereance. But I think in future, game characters will be more muscular again, also Gabriel Belmont in Lords of Shadows was huge, lol
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
Yeah. Maybe I'm just seeing a trend that's going to fade away again in time. I hope it will.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
When I specially think about it, Leon was the most slim of all Belmonts. If we look on the modernized Version of Trevor or Simon, they still got a big biceps for example, lol
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
Yeah. Absolutely. They do still look different than they used to, though.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
Trevor is okay I think, rapid change on Simon Belmont, his old Version looked like a swedish Barbarian or just Conan, after it he got red hair and a very funny domina-looking Outfit
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
Yeah. I actually kind of liked the Conan look somewhat, though I though Richter's outfit was better suited to the whole vampire hunter thing. There's kind of a mix between a warrior and a civilized man to be found there, whereas you know both are present with Trevor and Simon, but more on the inside than the outside.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
I think they should reduce the muscles on a "athletic" level. I think Trevor got the best modernized Version of every Belmont, the new Richter on Dracula X Chronicles is somewhat too slim I think, about Simon, I think this look does fit him very well, the old barbarian look wasnt bad too, but he was too mascular, like a Bodybuilder... I think this was a Arnold Schwarzenegger Trend and they made the first Simon after this Picture
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
Yeah, I think you may be right. For someone fighting vampires, the most important thing, naturally, would be not getting hit, so while it makes no sense for a vampire hunter to be skinny, per se, it's also hard to picture them surviving long with exceptionally bulky muscles, since they just can't match the superhuman strength of the vampires.
On they other hand, if they do possess superhuman strength, they can be as bulky as they need to be. The Kratos equation again.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
Other question is... do they need to be bulky when they have superhuman strength?
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
In fiction, not really, though it does look a big sillier otherwise. It's nothing we haven't all seen before.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
Thats the Point, a athletic look is the perfect option
BlacK40k 1 year ago
@BlacK40k
It makes the most sense anyway.
mytruepower2 1 year ago
@mytruepower2
So then lets write to Konami, lol
BlacK40k 1 year ago
HOORAY FOR LEON, MATTHIAS (Dracula), HECTOR AND ISAAC!!! Hey, where can I get the music?
nerminest 2 years ago 4
ALUCARDDDDDDDD
Michelle2815CV 2 years ago 3
alucard!
divinidadoscura 2 years ago 3
A bit emo, though.
DarkAdonisVyers 2 years ago
ALUCARD!!!!
Wow I like this version of this song!!!!
GothPrincessTiffany 3 years ago 4
Alucard is by far my most Favorite character
johncena222 3 years ago 12