Alice Waters is a great cook who is taking herself too seriously. Try "eating locally" in South Dakota. It's nothing like "eating locally" in Berkeley, California.
Every kid on the planet has to get $10 a day. Otherwise they can't eat real food. $300 (digital dollars, no trees have to die for this) a month until 18 years of age and a lot of the world's problems go away.
IN terms of stuff we eat, I don't care if it's healthy or not, it's about moderation. A bit of pork knuckles/mcdonalds once a week or two wouldn't hurt. And like what everyone is saying, who has the money to pay for organic products, or read the ingredients on the package, or ask purveyor etc where the food comes from??
I think a lot has to do with your priorities. I work full time, and I'm a full time student with no federal aid ,and the majority of my check goes to food- real food. Its not always organic, but its a lot of fruits and vegetables. I buy cage free eggs, and free roaming meat. I don't have a car, I walk and bike. The only people who need to get REAL, are the ones who think having a 42" tv or nice clothes is more important than what goes IN YOUR BODY. Your choice, I made mine.
This woman should be braised with garlic, New Mexico chilis and oregano; shredded and eaten in a fresh soft tortilla with a squeeze of lime. Immediately.
Let's look at the nuts and bolts of that fantasy this lady has beautifully woven. We the taxpayer will shell out more money to schools who will just spend it on a football program. The school administrator who decides what is served and what is NOT served in the schools will shit can all these wonderfull ideas because he owns a lot of stock in the company that supplies the school lunchrooms with crap food. The entire school system needs a cleaning out from the TOP DOWN.
Bourdain's argument makes little sense. Yes, organic food is expensive, but it is only that way because the government subsidizes fast food. If we stopped doing that, we would have much healthier people.
Also, there are farmers groups all across the third world switching to organic simply becasue non organic food isn't penciling out for them. Every year they have to buy more fertilizer, and every year they have to pump more water to their farms. Non-organic doesn't make financial sense.
@Natehc1984 your argument is a bit non sequitur. Yes, what you stated about government subsidies is relatively true, but i don't see the relevance to what bourdain said.
His argument was roughly that organic food was more expensive than processed food therefore people buy it more.
Your argument is roughly organic food is more expensive because government subsidies so bourdain is incorrect.
By 2050, there's gonna be 9 million people in the world....i don't think farms can handle that...hope so, but i'm not sure....
Also, this "healthy choices" are expensive, I know cause once in a while a buy organic food. I totally understand why is expensive, how much it costs for it to be produced, but i can't afford it everyday....
A) Cheap, corn and pesticide-based food is subsidized by the US government. B) Health and ecological impact are eventually the burden of the government as well. You feed kids food that happens to be cheap due to the subsidization (A), you end up with long term impact (B). Alice is advocating for a shift in both funding and perception. Get over your white guilt and dogma, everyone deserves and can eat well.
There is no way that organic food farms, as defined by those like Alice Waters, can feed as many people as the much maligned factory farms. It has already been proven, in England, that there is no difference in the nutritional value of organic/factory farmed veg. It's rich people who get to talk like this, without any comprehension as to how all these wonderful things will be accomplished.
I think all three chefs made good points. Since I tend to be more pragmatic, I side with Anthony Bourdain. Being fortunate enough to not have to choose between the quantity or quality of my food, I prefer to buy from my local farmer's market when I can because the food is fresher and therefore better tasting than supermarket or fast food. But to each each their own. Do what makes you happy.
Organic and locavore movement is far more hazardous to the environment than conventional farming. Organic requires up to 2-3x the resources and land for the same yield. Regarding the locavore movement - ponder this, is shipping 500 lbs of apples farmed mechanically 60 miles to a greenmarket less energy intensive than a million pounds of bananas farmed by hand shipped in from costa rica?
Alice whooped Bourdains Ass. Im a chef in Brooklyn and its literally impossible to pitch a $3 tomato over a $1 tomato to a restaurant owner in the red. But because of alices work and the ideas shes communicated sustainable organic and local food have more ammunition in the market place. And people are becoming more inclined to buy the more expensive meal because it is local organic and in season. Alice has real working ideas and a path toward healthy progress.
The stupid thing about all this is if everybody knew where their food came from, nobody would eat a thing. Fuck information. All we ever needed to know, throughout history, is if the wine got you drunk and pork filled you up. They do? Then you're happy.
Let your tongue do the exploring, that's what I say.
Its very sad to watch this women speak bc what she is saying is true... yes I want to know where my food comes from but at the end of the day when i work and I am a college student and I have bills to pay and I try to make healthy choices for myself....then when i look in my pocket and all i have is a 5$ bill and i havent eaten all day then i really dont have much of a choice... I wonder if I can call her up and have her pay for my breakfast lunch and afternoon snack............
@121sj She addressed that issue. Right now, we as country subsidize fast food (through corn, which is used to make corn syrup, corn starch, etc.) If we stopped subsidizing that, and actually subsidized real food, than it would be a lot easier for a student to eat healthy food.
I'm a student too, and I don't have much money either, but that doesn't mean I disregard what this woman is saying.
Bordain has become a self centered idiot. He's just become a jerk for a jerk sake over the years. He used to have am edge and now he just talks down to anyone who happens to think we should think about where are food comes form.
@9fifty5 Yeah. Let's just look the other way and stick to the "program". She's saying that instead of the government paying BILLIONS to farmers for over-producing inedible corn, they should supply children with real food. If you don't understand that, your fucked.
High quality food in the US has become a luxury - it shoudn't have, but it has. Until US culture changes and demands more - the food we used to eat, and europe markets still have for cheap - will be "Organic" produce for rich folks.
Tell me were in the hood are you going to find an organic farm.
I am all for organic food, but who is going to pay for it? You have people who live near more corner stores then grocery stores and cant afford fruits and vegetables unless it comes out of a damn can.
@ACTINGDRAMA There are many people who are working tirelessly everyday to bring good produce, and local products to inner city areas. There are many non-profit organizations that promote urban and community gardening, all attempting to bring proper nutrition to lower income areas. The changes they talk about are coming. Also, to be honest, organic is a really overrated term. It costs a ton to become an organically certified farm so many small farms just as good cant afford the certification.
@ACTINGDRAMA your rant is valid, and some areas are trying to change because of morgan spurlock's book, "don't eat this book" he makes a HUGE point of scolding the money makers of the company for blaming inner cities for their food choices and totally ignoring the fact that most of those neighborhoods, there's very little choice, and few that have cars to seek other sources. so good luck.
It's almost as if Alice Waters didn't listen to anything Tony Bourdain said at the end there...THREE organic meals a DAY for FREE? Hell most public schools in America can barely afford textbooks, let alone healthy food.
She doesn't live in the real world. She has no idea what the budget is for school meals in this country. It's pennies per meal and she wants to feed every child three organic sourced meals per day for free?!
Here's what I want my school system to do first:
At its most basic level, provide a certain level of education so that every kid comes out with an ability to read, write and perform basic algebraic functions. Keep them safe and provide nutritional food options. Many schools fail even that.
lets feed every single child in school breakfast lunch and an afternoon snack ,for free and feed them reel food. Waters is absolutely right 1 in 2 children will get diebeates. people its time for some change what we really need to is we need to start working on making real food affordable.
@792lkuhn lol like hat's gonna ahppen my friend. Alice waters is an ignorant old lady and has no idea about the status of millions of americans. all these fancy terms for food like organic, free range, grass fed, they are all fine and dandy but that nearly triples the price beef that would normally be 5 bucks a pound would be 12 or more. i myself think that that is fair and i spend that extra money but how many people in north amerca can afford it? not many
@792lkuhn and about the school system, who the fuck is she kidding, who is gonna cook those two meals free of charge and who is gonna give the ingrediants free of charge, schools have enough trouble getting kids their education let alone feeding them EXPENSIVE high quality food 3 times a day FOR FREE. she is an ignorant idealist that has no answers for this problem.
I understand what she is trying to say but the majority of people cannot afford to do what she is asking. If I could buy all organic, I would but I can't. There is no way I can afford it. Every now and then, I might get some locally grown fruits but in all reality, it is not practical. Would I rather buy a small expensive bag of grapes that will feed me for three days or buy a large less expensive bag of grapes that will feed me for a week? Hmmmm...
I think it's possible (maybe) to subsidize healthy food for public schools that a majority of the population could agree is healthy, and also create some sort of tax credit incentive for shoppers who buy foods that have a greater long term benefit to their health. But how is everyone going to agree on that criteria. Direct voting on it? Leave it up to a bureaucracy? Alice Waters will decide for us? I think it's better to require labeling of risks but still let people eat what they enjoy.
Waters has great points but lacks the public persona (or relateability to a demographic outside the Hamptons) to establish her credability. Bourdain has become the "everyman" for the cooking world.
It's too bad that Waters is so smug (i.e. 3:25), because she makes a good point and Duff makes it with an apt example and good humor in about 20 seconds...
Alice Waters is right about what she is saying. It is too bad she doesn't have enough time to talk about how her ideas are not so far fetched.
One big reason why people buy cheap crap is that they don't do the research and learn how easy it is to save AND eat well. My grandmother has never been rich, and has always been a health food person. Caring about healthy food is NOT a new thing!
I'm not rich, but I still manage to eat organic, healthy food. It's CHEAP. If a person cooks for his or herself, food is a lot cheaper. Not to mention the organic milk I buy is half that price. Is it because I don't live in New York city?
Take a short break from entertainment, take the time to learn something as simple as cooking. Simple food tastes better.
You care about money? why are you eating meat? If you care about pleasure, why are you eating crappy 99 cent food?
@DokBBenway He used the wrong disease, but his point stays the same. And I'm pretty fond of Bourdain, but there was much more to pick at what he said.
Bourdain pretty much is saying, "people are uneducated about how to save money when buying food, so they buy cheap crap instead of cheap good food, so why even try to do anything about it?" Talk about a defeatist attitude.
Look around into what is local where you live, people. A lot of that is super cheap.
They both make good points. Bourdain is just more entertaining. We should be subsidizing good organic food, but until then, I'm going to buy what I can afford. I try to eat organic as much as I can, but sometimes I have to compromise. Although the dreck that the big food corps put into what they call "food", makes it nearly inedible to me.
I'm also a vegetarian, but if it came down to it, I would eat meat to survive. And I don't begrudge anyone the right to eat as they see fit.
@ficklemcpickle Glad to see someone here has a brain in a YouTube comment section. I have a friend who acutally became sick without eating meat unlike all my other vegetarian friends and family members, and I always am cool with people who take the time to care about where their food comes from.
...But I wouldn't eat meat if I could help it since I hate how it tastes.
Bourdain is a witty man but Alice is right. There is a serious problem with our food system. Cheap food comes at a high price. Support your local farmers.
Love the look on Bourdain's face as she just goes on and on repeating herself... "Where the buns come from," srsly? Then as he gives a reasonable argument about the role of chefs and how economics influences food she implies that he was going on too long.
lol yeah... I'm sure there are tons of farmers markets in harlem, watts, east LA, detroit, and any other poor ass town, neighborhood or city in america
This woman just doesn't want to listen does she. She is so idealist she doesn't realize the shit she talks about just is not POSSIBLE for the people she wants to talk about. Oh yeah and Duff.. YOU AREN'T A CHEF YOU'RE A BAKER!!
Use your cultural history to cook using a more expensive bit of meat and make the most of it. 1 good Chicken can make at least 3 meals for 4 people if you only look to the past for recipies it is cheap and very good. Unlike Mcdonnalds or any other processed shit the USA has inflicted on the lazy people of the world.
Duff Goldman is an idiot. The main source of the plague was off the fleas from rats. Not sewage. If people in the dark ages invented flea spray, that would have fixed the plague, not sewage.
I have been a cook 4 many years,and I can tell you that the fat content of meat,sodium levels,and amount of calories have all dropped vastly. The major health problems of america are caused by lack of physical activity! People 100 years ago ate salt preserved fat back almost every day, yet they were twice as strong.
@SuperJoshman420 Weeell, that depends. If you were living in London's east end 100 years ago, you were also deformed from malnutrition and crippled from over work by your late teens.
Alice Waters made the comment about essentially serving three meals a day to kids for free on Bill Maher's show as well, and he was rightly skeptical. Schools don't have enough money to afford proper textbooks or enough teachers. Where she thinks they'll get the money for pampering the kids is beyond me.
could it be your broke because you are the stupid ass,..
Alice waters gave you,.. some of the countries top chefs,. gave you california cusine, gave you sustainable Farm to table business enterprise, gave you some of the best cook books ever written. This woman is still one of the most forward thinking, honest
cooks alive. But lets just forget her for a moment,... take a look at reports on sugar and things like high fructose corn syrup the effect it has had on the American people. just look.
tony and duff both rule. as far as knowing where my food came from, i grew up broke, we made our cheap food taste good, if we could get it local and organic for the same price great, but we couldnt. my food was about how cheap we could get it to fill our bellys, not if the food was mishandled and grown by your farmer neighbor or not.
I love Bourdain, but he is wrong. Farmer markets are cheap, local markets are cheap, cooking right is cheap. You just need to take the time to get off your lazy ass and learn to cook.
Im somewhere between the two. Theyre both my heroes. And Bourdain certainly doesnt advocate eating that 99cent peice of chicken in his Les Halles cookebook.
Alice Water's ideas are great in a warm and fuzzy everything could be perfect utopian world... unfortunately having all meat, produce, fruits, dairy products etc etc be all organic, small farm raised is not only really freakin expensive- but it doesnt realistically address the volume of food that has to be grown,raised, butchered etc etc to meet the hundreds of millions of people who eat in the USA alone every day.... Free three meals a day for school kids ? who's gonna pay for that !! ? ?
And great proposition in the last ten seconds Alice - but is it your shout? Last I checked there was no spare money in the US. How about sorting out free health first eh? Cheers from Australia.
Watch Bourdain from 5:26 to 5:47. He is in serious nicotine withdrawal. Hey, I like the guy, he makes me laugh, he's a brilliant wordsmith, but I often wonder why a man whose career is built around food, and tasting/enjoying it...that he smokes cigarettes. Surely the man is smarter than that.
Anthony Bourdain wake up. You are what you eat. Every single bites shape the future of our planet. Instant gratification is killing us. Be an ethical Bon vivant.
Anthony Bourdain wouldn't have a career without the pioneering work of Alice Waters. Chez Panisse set the bar. Comparing her intelligence to Bourdain's is meaningless. Bourdain has a carefully crafted, lovingly tended media image -- badass meets connoisseur -- aimed at a specific demographic, males 18 to 34. The program is a showcase for male bonding, exotic drinks, "philosophy." I wonder how many of Bourdain's fans know that he's married, and that he brings his wife along for the ride?
Anthony Bourdain wouldn't have a career without the pioneering work of Alice Waters. Chez Panisse set the bar. Comparing her intelligence to Bourdain's is meaningless. Bourdain has a carefully crafted, lovingly tended media image -- badass meets connoisseur -- aimed at a specific demographic, males 18 to 34. The program is a showcase for male bonding, exotic drinks, "philosophy." I wonder how many of Bourdain's fans know that he's married, and that he brings his wife along for the ride?
@sweeneymcqueen i know that and i fucking like it. Anthony Bourdain owns Alice Waters. Anthony Bourdain is more real than Alice Waters if that's what you're getting at. At least he understands the perils of an average Joe. Anthony asks me to live a fulfilling life and enjoy the moment. Alice Waters asks me to take jobs away from Kansas and buy expensive organic food. I'd rather not be broke and have angry rednecks knocking on my door, thank you.
alice waters makes good points and has good responses to anthony bourdain's very reasonable points, as well. let us not let our worship of bourdain and his bad ass ways stop us from seeing that.
Unfortunately, the "organic" industry is considered a luxury in some parts of USA, Educate yourself, make your own meals, do not use can products, IF you can , grow your own produce, Decrease your intake of milk and meat products. Yes, live a little, eat a slice of pizza or a hot dog, but don't do it every week ! organic is TOO expensive for the mid American income, are u kiddin me! Bourdain is right....
If people wanna get sick thats their problem, why is she so concerened about it..let people get thousands of dollars in medical bills then we'll see how much money they saved NOT buying organic food...If people wanna shoot themselves in the foot let them, don't stop em they will only hate you for it.
First, unless you lied on your policy, I don't see why you imply your insurance would be rescinded. Second, I'd rather not have a system where I pay for your healthcare. Third, there are no studies showing that eating organic beef lowers healthcare costs.
@sexlessparents to a certain level i definitely agree, im a foul mouthed chain smoking bourdain fanboy turned chef in training. I don't think alice walters is trying to be some sort of authoritarian vegan organic fundie nutcase. I think she and mr bourdain have alot of common ground and i dunno, i find it hard to sum up venomous hatred towards somebody this timid and soft spoken. There needs to be a balance.
@MrZebraZombie really? Do you come from a working class background? My mom was a single mom, she could never afford fruits, much less organic fruit. I have my own money now and I can afford to go whole foods and by organic fruit. But my mom just wanted to put food on the table and feed all 5 of us kids.
@MrZebraZombie You are very elitist to look down on people who eat shitty food. My mom bought hamburger helper. She bought the cheapest ground beef. Where I grew up there were no farmer markets or was a small town. We had Wal-Mart, that was it. My mother was not a " lazy ass", All of us kids never ate anything organic and we all turned out to be healthy, non obese people.
She does strike me as elitist, but eating trash is not the answer to that. You'll pay more in the long run by eating food that not only tastes worse, but is horribly destructive to your body.
@sexlessparents true, absolutely. But let this also be said that it is necessary for the government to make good quality food available readily and cheap to working class people. Especially, in a wealth rich country like america, it shows how from the health industry(no universal health care) to food(shitty mass produced food) everyone is so money hungry and corrupt that all hope seems to be lost as the world in a sense plummets to darkness.
@sexlessparents As someone who is also broke as hell, I have to make note that most fast food is more expensive than food you pick up at the store and cook yourself. Now if you buy a lot of fresh veggies, that'll raise the cost per calorie significantly.
I'm in favour of organic food mainly because it represents traditional practises of growing and preparing food -- practises that have been lost as a result of industrial food production. When looking into heirloom tomatoes, there are a tremendous variety of these tomatoes, and all are uniquely flavourful and delicious. Even pork has been genetically modified far from its fatty, delicious decedents.
Organic Food is no better for you than conventional food. It's a great myth that organic is better. There's no science to back up her organic claims that organic is better. It's total BS. The average family cannot afford to eat the way Alice Water's suggests. Duff is an idiot. The Plague didn't come from sewage. It came from fleas that were on rats. When the population of cats increased the plague declined. What an idiot Duff is. He's a fool. Anthony is completely correct. Waters is also stupid.
It's not Alice Water's job to "buy organic bullshit for the po folks." That's your job. Times "r tuff" for everybody. Do what you can. If you can't, well then, better luck when times get better. She is concerned. Concerned enough to start the Edible Schoolyard project. Read up on it before you start to put her down. She did her own small part. She can't do everything. She can't raise your kids for you. She can't save you from your own life. That's your job. Not hers. Get that?
fuck duff & this lady . bourdain talks the truth! damn dude sometimes times r tuff . shit buy the poor folks organic bullshit if u r so concerned. or shut the fuck up
Alice Waters is right! Most of you haters know it. Our nation will pay (is already paying) a high health price for that greasy, .99 fried chicken leg that "tastes good." It's not Waters's fault that some people cannot afford the better way. Find a way to get the healthier stuff - and stop taking your personal failures out on this woman! Whenever I am able, I buy organic and vegan. I may not be able to all the time, but I love it when I can. Waters did her part. Now do yours.
tony keeps it real, and truthful. what alice waters is doing is simply removing culture. im not saying its not healthy for people to be eating organic its just not always realistic...coming from southern cali (san diego) there is a pattern to where organic food is available...rich areas...unfortunately there are san diego based stores that are all organic but they only appear in places where people can afford it. which proves to me that they only care about the money and not the heath of people.
I certainly dont want to know where my sausage are coming from, I only want to think it as beef or chicken sausage. that's it. I dont need any information about any other parts of those animals are used on my sausage.
"they're lining up not because of the healthy food, they're lining up because of the fucking 99 cent." WELL SAID!!! That's if the fact of life and Alice seemed to forget.
@cumap1 99 cents is affordable for that moment, but the price they pay for bad health later on outweighs the assumed savings. The problem is that many of the poor people eating poorly can not do the math, or simply do not have access to goos food where they live. Hey Trader Joes & Whole Foods: If you really, truly want people to eat well, why don't you put some of your stores in areas where the good food is most needed? Oh, and W.F. can/should drop their prices...absolutely stupid pricing.
Anthony Bourdain is the star of this conversation, and rightly so. He hasn't changed a bit, you don't have to ask him to know that he had a tough life and he knows what most of us feel day to day. The feeling of not having many choices. The feeling of poor. And yes, there is a feeling to being poor.
Like my fellow peers would say, "He still got that street in him."
He went out there and got that himself. He says in his book that he was a spoiled kid form a well off family. He made the choice to screw himself up. That said I am still a big fan of his.
@SunnySideUp360 That's true, but 5 minutes after the interview he was chain smoking again, drinking a stiff drink in a limo and making a stop at the Carl's Jr. for another grease bomb to go. Bourdain is now richer than Alice. I'd hate to enter a bathroom after Bourdain s.h.i.t.s.
I must have it good compared a lot of the people commenting here because I buy strictly organic and I consider myself pretty poor (I'm a student and my parents don't pay my bills or tuition). My farmers market is fairly priced and I get fresh, organic, cruelty free eggs and produce for very little. I've become very a firm believer in local organic. I do buy some things from the grocer, but all in all I regulate price by buying from bulk and menu planning. I cook from scratch and garden too.
Hey, I praise for your success, but hopefully you don't think that we all should, must follow or adhere to your foot steps. Keep it to yourself and respect others choices.
Everyone check out this lady who posted a comment on the youtube 'Jeff Fisher addresses the World part one" I think this lady would love Mr. Fisher to be talking about Food and lovemaking in poetry also.
I enjoyed however his story about Pat Tillman
I enjoy sports and my wife makes love to me during timeouts on Sunday during football season.
marriage is great and thank God for Saturday and Sunday for football.
Every one hates alice waters.thats fine, but what about what she is saying..every one here criticizes her, but no one criticizes what she is saying.she might be hypocritical too(which i don't think she is..but thats besides the point) ..thats fine...but do people think organic food is better than pesticide laden ..genetically modified food..thats the question..forget about alice water's personality for a while, but did our ancestors really eat organic food?.I know most people hate to hear this.
Alice need to realize PEOPLE ARE POOR, PEOPLE ARE BUSY. I cant aford organic anymore! I have to drive 1 hour to the closest organic market to buy organic food. I mean sure they have organic beans and stuff at foodlion but eating organic ISNT practical for everyone. Id LOVE to eat organic and id pay a little extra for it but damn not double the price. Tony I agree with you
most people are in the same boat. i think the real (and realistic) point is to stop eating so much processed food. our nation is being killed by all things processed.
Alice Waters is the definition of a "Limousine Liberal". She thinks everyone can afford expensive food like she can, has plenty of free time to cook slowly like she can, and can grow food year-round like she can.
Irony is that her precious garden would be a desert had it not been for all that water that is piped in from Colorado. That's not exactly "buying local" now, is it?
I prefer to eat fresh too, but Alice thinks everyone is as lucky as she is. She is MOCKING us with her wealth!
Yes, Alice did. Fast food is being subsidized because corn subsidies make corn products cheaper than the cost to produce them. Her point at the end of the clip is that if we subsidize healthy food instead, it will be cheap and Popeye's--the diabetes causing food--will be more expensive and less attractive. An additional point not covered in the clip is the negative health effects all the pesticides, herbicides and animal waste have on the people living down river.
" i am a chef. i am not your dietician or you ethicist. my resposibility is to give you the best tasting tomatoe, not the most cruelty free tomatoe, not the most organic tomatoe......i am in the pleasure business"
A message to Subroto, if my comment on her hypocrisy offends you, I do apologise. But given that the woman's deathrow meal is a shark fin soup, perhaps she should not be going on about the source of food and all those ethnical issues.
Alice waters have done wonders for the food community...so much of the general American increase in the knowledge of food and pleasure we receive from it is because of Chez Panisse...\
again...as an alternative, her pursuit of fresh, organic...etc..is a noble one. An Alternative that we choose or choose not to make.
And would anyone really argue that it would be better to not have an option?
I am so impressed with Alice's decision of Shark's fin soup! I was almost certain it would be perhaps tomatoes...or something of european vein...
and to those who criticize her choice...I'm damn sure Mz waters understands perhaps the "political incorrectness" of shark's fin ...but i find it bold of her to have been so honest...and what a chinese gourmand she is.
Oh my God her deathrow meal is a Shark Fin Soup????? Oh the superficiality of this whole freak show!!!!!! Go Anthony, shoot the woman and toss the carcass!
Alice Waters is a great cook who is taking herself too seriously. Try "eating locally" in South Dakota. It's nothing like "eating locally" in Berkeley, California.
henrycate 1 week ago
Every kid on the planet has to get $10 a day. Otherwise they can't eat real food. $300 (digital dollars, no trees have to die for this) a month until 18 years of age and a lot of the world's problems go away.
trainlinezoo 2 weeks ago
@trainlinezoo Well, go ahead and give it to them, then. I mean YOU give it to them. Don't you go making me try to do it for you.
henrycate 1 week ago
@henrycate You don't have to give anyone anything just keep being you and enjoy your life. Just keep being YOU.
trainlinezoo 1 week ago
Feed them free. It cost...M---O---N---E---Y
Beadwindow2020 2 weeks ago
3:58 Anthony Bourain backpedals.
xxrosus 3 weeks ago
Bourdain is a realist.
RICKANDDIANNE 2 months ago
IN terms of stuff we eat, I don't care if it's healthy or not, it's about moderation. A bit of pork knuckles/mcdonalds once a week or two wouldn't hurt. And like what everyone is saying, who has the money to pay for organic products, or read the ingredients on the package, or ask purveyor etc where the food comes from??
frdrcksncn 3 months ago
Her speech is so weird.
amw1978dc 3 months ago
I think a lot has to do with your priorities. I work full time, and I'm a full time student with no federal aid ,and the majority of my check goes to food- real food. Its not always organic, but its a lot of fruits and vegetables. I buy cage free eggs, and free roaming meat. I don't have a car, I walk and bike. The only people who need to get REAL, are the ones who think having a 42" tv or nice clothes is more important than what goes IN YOUR BODY. Your choice, I made mine.
EndlessTurtles 4 months ago
This woman should be braised with garlic, New Mexico chilis and oregano; shredded and eaten in a fresh soft tortilla with a squeeze of lime. Immediately.
jmw102667 4 months ago
Let's look at the nuts and bolts of that fantasy this lady has beautifully woven. We the taxpayer will shell out more money to schools who will just spend it on a football program. The school administrator who decides what is served and what is NOT served in the schools will shit can all these wonderfull ideas because he owns a lot of stock in the company that supplies the school lunchrooms with crap food. The entire school system needs a cleaning out from the TOP DOWN.
oldtiedyeman 4 months ago
then why the hell does she eat shark fin soup.
dbernnie 4 months ago
Bourdain's argument makes little sense. Yes, organic food is expensive, but it is only that way because the government subsidizes fast food. If we stopped doing that, we would have much healthier people.
Also, there are farmers groups all across the third world switching to organic simply becasue non organic food isn't penciling out for them. Every year they have to buy more fertilizer, and every year they have to pump more water to their farms. Non-organic doesn't make financial sense.
Natehc1984 4 months ago
@Natehc1984 your argument is a bit non sequitur. Yes, what you stated about government subsidies is relatively true, but i don't see the relevance to what bourdain said.
His argument was roughly that organic food was more expensive than processed food therefore people buy it more.
Your argument is roughly organic food is more expensive because government subsidies so bourdain is incorrect.
your comprehension skills worry me....
appppppppple 1 month ago
By 2050, there's gonna be 9 million people in the world....i don't think farms can handle that...hope so, but i'm not sure....
Also, this "healthy choices" are expensive, I know cause once in a while a buy organic food. I totally understand why is expensive, how much it costs for it to be produced, but i can't afford it everyday....
pianification 5 months ago
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A) Cheap, corn and pesticide-based food is subsidized by the US government. B) Health and ecological impact are eventually the burden of the government as well. You feed kids food that happens to be cheap due to the subsidization (A), you end up with long term impact (B). Alice is advocating for a shift in both funding and perception. Get over your white guilt and dogma, everyone deserves and can eat well.
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pootatoo 5 months ago
There is no way that organic food farms, as defined by those like Alice Waters, can feed as many people as the much maligned factory farms. It has already been proven, in England, that there is no difference in the nutritional value of organic/factory farmed veg. It's rich people who get to talk like this, without any comprehension as to how all these wonderful things will be accomplished.
poursuivant1 5 months ago
That lady needs to shut the hell up. All people need is a "choice" and not somebody cramming an affluent lifestyle down their impoverished mouth.
robertalanhead 6 months ago
I think all three chefs made good points. Since I tend to be more pragmatic, I side with Anthony Bourdain. Being fortunate enough to not have to choose between the quantity or quality of my food, I prefer to buy from my local farmer's market when I can because the food is fresher and therefore better tasting than supermarket or fast food. But to each each their own. Do what makes you happy.
Sarara14 7 months ago
Waters isn't stupid. She's just got a very specific vision. A bit humorless? Yes. But she's a tremendous chef.
amarantaviera 9 months ago 3
Organic and locavore movement is far more hazardous to the environment than conventional farming. Organic requires up to 2-3x the resources and land for the same yield. Regarding the locavore movement - ponder this, is shipping 500 lbs of apples farmed mechanically 60 miles to a greenmarket less energy intensive than a million pounds of bananas farmed by hand shipped in from costa rica?
Madmoves1 10 months ago
robzombay
alice did make most of the right choices, had the courage of her conviction and created a semi masterpiece -- have you ever eaten there?
joerexlily 10 months ago
God this Waters woman is annoyingly pretentious.
AbbathGS 11 months ago
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epiksonik 11 months ago
Alice whooped Bourdains Ass. Im a chef in Brooklyn and its literally impossible to pitch a $3 tomato over a $1 tomato to a restaurant owner in the red. But because of alices work and the ideas shes communicated sustainable organic and local food have more ammunition in the market place. And people are becoming more inclined to buy the more expensive meal because it is local organic and in season. Alice has real working ideas and a path toward healthy progress.
BboyFranki3 1 year ago
The stupid thing about all this is if everybody knew where their food came from, nobody would eat a thing. Fuck information. All we ever needed to know, throughout history, is if the wine got you drunk and pork filled you up. They do? Then you're happy.
Let your tongue do the exploring, that's what I say.
kaputtmanxD 1 year ago
Its very sad to watch this women speak bc what she is saying is true... yes I want to know where my food comes from but at the end of the day when i work and I am a college student and I have bills to pay and I try to make healthy choices for myself....then when i look in my pocket and all i have is a 5$ bill and i havent eaten all day then i really dont have much of a choice... I wonder if I can call her up and have her pay for my breakfast lunch and afternoon snack............
121sj 1 year ago 12
@121sj She addressed that issue. Right now, we as country subsidize fast food (through corn, which is used to make corn syrup, corn starch, etc.) If we stopped subsidizing that, and actually subsidized real food, than it would be a lot easier for a student to eat healthy food.
I'm a student too, and I don't have much money either, but that doesn't mean I disregard what this woman is saying.
Natehc1984 4 months ago
@Natehc1984 4sure i agree with u and her... which is why i say its sad... its the whole system that has to change....
121sj 4 months ago
Bordain has become a self centered idiot. He's just become a jerk for a jerk sake over the years. He used to have am edge and now he just talks down to anyone who happens to think we should think about where are food comes form.
shadow27b 1 year ago 2
Alice water is one of the most greatest chefs to ever set foot in California ground
PERIOD.
ryanv414 1 year ago
America is a broken toilet economically and this idealistic twit wants to feed kids for free?
Lady, get with the program.
This is the US.
Nobody does fucking anything for nothing.
9fifty5 1 year ago
@9fifty5 Yeah. Let's just look the other way and stick to the "program". She's saying that instead of the government paying BILLIONS to farmers for over-producing inedible corn, they should supply children with real food. If you don't understand that, your fucked.
hhhyr55l 1 year ago
@hhhyr55l
Ha ha - good comeback.
Buy the way, it's 'you're fucked' - you semi literate, idealistic retard.
9fifty5 11 months ago
@9fifty5 Don't give me that spelling bullshit you hack writer. Forget I said anything dude. You're right.
hhhyr55l 11 months ago
High quality food in the US has become a luxury - it shoudn't have, but it has. Until US culture changes and demands more - the food we used to eat, and europe markets still have for cheap - will be "Organic" produce for rich folks.
DanMcCaffrey 1 year ago
Shit... I have to agree with Alice on this one. We WILL pay either way. The 99 cent chicken leg is an illusion.
hhhyr55l 1 year ago
Tell me were in the hood are you going to find an organic farm.
I am all for organic food, but who is going to pay for it? You have people who live near more corner stores then grocery stores and cant afford fruits and vegetables unless it comes out of a damn can.
Get real lady.
ACTINGDRAMA 1 year ago 10
@ACTINGDRAMA There are many people who are working tirelessly everyday to bring good produce, and local products to inner city areas. There are many non-profit organizations that promote urban and community gardening, all attempting to bring proper nutrition to lower income areas. The changes they talk about are coming. Also, to be honest, organic is a really overrated term. It costs a ton to become an organically certified farm so many small farms just as good cant afford the certification.
Conway20 9 months ago
@ACTINGDRAMA your rant is valid, and some areas are trying to change because of morgan spurlock's book, "don't eat this book" he makes a HUGE point of scolding the money makers of the company for blaming inner cities for their food choices and totally ignoring the fact that most of those neighborhoods, there's very little choice, and few that have cars to seek other sources. so good luck.
ajlee35 6 months ago
@ACTINGDRAMA : You have an opportunity. Start one.
imesai 5 months ago
It's almost as if Alice Waters didn't listen to anything Tony Bourdain said at the end there...THREE organic meals a DAY for FREE? Hell most public schools in America can barely afford textbooks, let alone healthy food.
DSLCactus 1 year ago 2
She doesn't live in the real world. She has no idea what the budget is for school meals in this country. It's pennies per meal and she wants to feed every child three organic sourced meals per day for free?!
Here's what I want my school system to do first:
At its most basic level, provide a certain level of education so that every kid comes out with an ability to read, write and perform basic algebraic functions. Keep them safe and provide nutritional food options. Many schools fail even that.
poursuivant1 1 year ago 3
lets feed every single child in school breakfast lunch and an afternoon snack ,for free and feed them reel food. Waters is absolutely right 1 in 2 children will get diebeates. people its time for some change what we really need to is we need to start working on making real food affordable.
792lkuhn 1 year ago 2
@792lkuhn lol like hat's gonna ahppen my friend. Alice waters is an ignorant old lady and has no idea about the status of millions of americans. all these fancy terms for food like organic, free range, grass fed, they are all fine and dandy but that nearly triples the price beef that would normally be 5 bucks a pound would be 12 or more. i myself think that that is fair and i spend that extra money but how many people in north amerca can afford it? not many
ShatterEffectt 1 year ago
@792lkuhn and about the school system, who the fuck is she kidding, who is gonna cook those two meals free of charge and who is gonna give the ingrediants free of charge, schools have enough trouble getting kids their education let alone feeding them EXPENSIVE high quality food 3 times a day FOR FREE. she is an ignorant idealist that has no answers for this problem.
ShatterEffectt 1 year ago
I think Bourdain rips this broad apart in his book.
benficaforlife1 1 year ago 2
Dude Bourdain you're breaking my heart. Waters is right, she's ALWAYS right.
cocoamoco 1 year ago
I understand what she is trying to say but the majority of people cannot afford to do what she is asking. If I could buy all organic, I would but I can't. There is no way I can afford it. Every now and then, I might get some locally grown fruits but in all reality, it is not practical. Would I rather buy a small expensive bag of grapes that will feed me for three days or buy a large less expensive bag of grapes that will feed me for a week? Hmmmm...
Iheartcoca13 1 year ago
I think it's possible (maybe) to subsidize healthy food for public schools that a majority of the population could agree is healthy, and also create some sort of tax credit incentive for shoppers who buy foods that have a greater long term benefit to their health. But how is everyone going to agree on that criteria. Direct voting on it? Leave it up to a bureaucracy? Alice Waters will decide for us? I think it's better to require labeling of risks but still let people eat what they enjoy.
Gumbyrearygood 1 year ago
that lady needs to get laid
mazatleko100 1 year ago
@mazatleko100 Good luck with that. I think she just needs a date.
DannyBoy443 1 year ago
Waters has great points but lacks the public persona (or relateability to a demographic outside the Hamptons) to establish her credability. Bourdain has become the "everyman" for the cooking world.
zegnasuit 1 year ago
It's too bad that Waters is so smug (i.e. 3:25), because she makes a good point and Duff makes it with an apt example and good humor in about 20 seconds...
1214gaia 1 year ago
waters' utopia vs bourdain's real world....bourdain wins!
tdintal 1 year ago
Alice Waters is right about what she is saying. It is too bad she doesn't have enough time to talk about how her ideas are not so far fetched.
One big reason why people buy cheap crap is that they don't do the research and learn how easy it is to save AND eat well. My grandmother has never been rich, and has always been a health food person. Caring about healthy food is NOT a new thing!
goodyfun 1 year ago
I'm not rich, but I still manage to eat organic, healthy food. It's CHEAP. If a person cooks for his or herself, food is a lot cheaper. Not to mention the organic milk I buy is half that price. Is it because I don't live in New York city?
Take a short break from entertainment, take the time to learn something as simple as cooking. Simple food tastes better.
You care about money? why are you eating meat? If you care about pleasure, why are you eating crappy 99 cent food?
goodyfun 1 year ago
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There's a great food panel discussion with Anthony Bourdain in Tahoe this weekend, I have vids on my channel if anyone is interested.
FabulousLakeTahoe 1 year ago
i love duff goldman, but the bubonic plague really didnt have much to do with raw sewage. in case any kids see this.
thatched roofs had more to do with the bubonic plague than sewage
DokBBenway 1 year ago
@DokBBenway He used the wrong disease, but his point stays the same. And I'm pretty fond of Bourdain, but there was much more to pick at what he said.
Bourdain pretty much is saying, "people are uneducated about how to save money when buying food, so they buy cheap crap instead of cheap good food, so why even try to do anything about it?" Talk about a defeatist attitude.
Look around into what is local where you live, people. A lot of that is super cheap.
goodyfun 1 year ago
Ok...great idea but how about a plan for execution? Lets beat out the 99cent chicken with free organic food. Good luck!
victory01 1 year ago
10 bucks says she sniffs her own farts.
ballslincoln 1 year ago
He want to get out of there and smoke SO BAD!!!
ID773 1 year ago
They both make good points. Bourdain is just more entertaining. We should be subsidizing good organic food, but until then, I'm going to buy what I can afford. I try to eat organic as much as I can, but sometimes I have to compromise. Although the dreck that the big food corps put into what they call "food", makes it nearly inedible to me.
I'm also a vegetarian, but if it came down to it, I would eat meat to survive. And I don't begrudge anyone the right to eat as they see fit.
ficklemcpickle 1 year ago 3
@ficklemcpickle Glad to see someone here has a brain in a YouTube comment section. I have a friend who acutally became sick without eating meat unlike all my other vegetarian friends and family members, and I always am cool with people who take the time to care about where their food comes from.
...But I wouldn't eat meat if I could help it since I hate how it tastes.
goodyfun 1 year ago
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Bourdain is a witty man but Alice is right. There is a serious problem with our food system. Cheap food comes at a high price. Support your local farmers.
jacanseco 1 year ago
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jacanseco 1 year ago
Go Tony! Alice is insane! I love what Anthony Bourdain said about this and Alice Waters in his new book Medium Raw.
meknewxenu 1 year ago
I love Alice and I love Anthony. But Alice is correct.
MrZebraZombie 1 year ago
Love the look on Bourdain's face as she just goes on and on repeating herself... "Where the buns come from," srsly? Then as he gives a reasonable argument about the role of chefs and how economics influences food she implies that he was going on too long.
lycheens 1 year ago
lol yeah... I'm sure there are tons of farmers markets in harlem, watts, east LA, detroit, and any other poor ass town, neighborhood or city in america
TheEviIOyo 1 year ago
This woman just doesn't want to listen does she. She is so idealist she doesn't realize the shit she talks about just is not POSSIBLE for the people she wants to talk about. Oh yeah and Duff.. YOU AREN'T A CHEF YOU'RE A BAKER!!
reighngold 1 year ago
I love Bourdain... and his Hedonism
SynerJetics 1 year ago
Use your cultural history to cook using a more expensive bit of meat and make the most of it. 1 good Chicken can make at least 3 meals for 4 people if you only look to the past for recipies it is cheap and very good. Unlike Mcdonnalds or any other processed shit the USA has inflicted on the lazy people of the world.
MrErnieball1 1 year ago
Duff Goldman is an idiot. The main source of the plague was off the fleas from rats. Not sewage. If people in the dark ages invented flea spray, that would have fixed the plague, not sewage.
Oh, and Bourdain rules!
ThePeaceableMan 1 year ago 2
Rock on Bourdain!!!! :)
Burgvati 1 year ago 2
" ... increase the likelihood that you get laid after dinner." LOL! Poor Alice looked like she wanted to run screaming from the stage.
marc55403 1 year ago
priding yourself about shopping based on food sourcing is a pastime of the wealthy
artistsandbox 1 year ago
ya im sure your hotdog vendor knows where it came from. rich people have no idea
johnniebwalkin 1 year ago
I have been a cook 4 many years,and I can tell you that the fat content of meat,sodium levels,and amount of calories have all dropped vastly. The major health problems of america are caused by lack of physical activity! People 100 years ago ate salt preserved fat back almost every day, yet they were twice as strong.
SuperJoshman420 1 year ago
@SuperJoshman420 Weeell, that depends. If you were living in London's east end 100 years ago, you were also deformed from malnutrition and crippled from over work by your late teens.
compactdisk2 1 year ago
Alice Waters made the comment about essentially serving three meals a day to kids for free on Bill Maher's show as well, and he was rightly skeptical. Schools don't have enough money to afford proper textbooks or enough teachers. Where she thinks they'll get the money for pampering the kids is beyond me.
JohnWFern 1 year ago
could it be your broke because you are the stupid ass,..
Alice waters gave you,.. some of the countries top chefs,. gave you california cusine, gave you sustainable Farm to table business enterprise, gave you some of the best cook books ever written. This woman is still one of the most forward thinking, honest
cooks alive. But lets just forget her for a moment,... take a look at reports on sugar and things like high fructose corn syrup the effect it has had on the American people. just look.
67vespa 1 year ago
Like most Bay Area Yuppies...she's full of sh*t.
blairzel 1 year ago
Alice Waters, and people like her, need to be taken to an island near the South Pole, left there and forgotten.
442Ragtop 1 year ago
tony and duff both rule. as far as knowing where my food came from, i grew up broke, we made our cheap food taste good, if we could get it local and organic for the same price great, but we couldnt. my food was about how cheap we could get it to fill our bellys, not if the food was mishandled and grown by your farmer neighbor or not.
johnniebwalkin 1 year ago
I love Bourdain, but he is wrong. Farmer markets are cheap, local markets are cheap, cooking right is cheap. You just need to take the time to get off your lazy ass and learn to cook.
MrZebraZombie 1 year ago
@MrZebraZombie lol...telling bourdain to learn to cook
tarantism 1 year ago
Duff, so classic. "Have you ever been to an agribusiness cow town in Kansas? IT'S FUCKIN' DISGUSTING!" Love ya, babe!
gaia1214 1 year ago
Im somewhere between the two. Theyre both my heroes. And Bourdain certainly doesnt advocate eating that 99cent peice of chicken in his Les Halles cookebook.
asianmalaysian 1 year ago
Alice Water's ideas are great in a warm and fuzzy everything could be perfect utopian world... unfortunately having all meat, produce, fruits, dairy products etc etc be all organic, small farm raised is not only really freakin expensive- but it doesnt realistically address the volume of food that has to be grown,raised, butchered etc etc to meet the hundreds of millions of people who eat in the USA alone every day.... Free three meals a day for school kids ? who's gonna pay for that !! ? ?
artsmith1972 1 year ago 3
And great proposition in the last ten seconds Alice - but is it your shout? Last I checked there was no spare money in the US. How about sorting out free health first eh? Cheers from Australia.
iridiumdirge 1 year ago
Bourdain you are my hero.
iridiumdirge 1 year ago 2
Watch Bourdain from 5:26 to 5:47. He is in serious nicotine withdrawal. Hey, I like the guy, he makes me laugh, he's a brilliant wordsmith, but I often wonder why a man whose career is built around food, and tasting/enjoying it...that he smokes cigarettes. Surely the man is smarter than that.
"More salt please!"
HunterMann 1 year ago
Anthony Bourdain wake up. You are what you eat. Every single bites shape the future of our planet. Instant gratification is killing us. Be an ethical Bon vivant.
obrouillet 1 year ago
Anthony Bourdain wouldn't have a career without the pioneering work of Alice Waters. Chez Panisse set the bar. Comparing her intelligence to Bourdain's is meaningless. Bourdain has a carefully crafted, lovingly tended media image -- badass meets connoisseur -- aimed at a specific demographic, males 18 to 34. The program is a showcase for male bonding, exotic drinks, "philosophy." I wonder how many of Bourdain's fans know that he's married, and that he brings his wife along for the ride?
sweeneymcqueen 1 year ago
Anthony Bourdain wouldn't have a career without the pioneering work of Alice Waters. Chez Panisse set the bar. Comparing her intelligence to Bourdain's is meaningless. Bourdain has a carefully crafted, lovingly tended media image -- badass meets connoisseur -- aimed at a specific demographic, males 18 to 34. The program is a showcase for male bonding, exotic drinks, "philosophy." I wonder how many of Bourdain's fans know that he's married, and that he brings his wife along for the ride?
sweeneymcqueen 1 year ago
@sweeneymcqueen i know that and i fucking like it. Anthony Bourdain owns Alice Waters. Anthony Bourdain is more real than Alice Waters if that's what you're getting at. At least he understands the perils of an average Joe. Anthony asks me to live a fulfilling life and enjoy the moment. Alice Waters asks me to take jobs away from Kansas and buy expensive organic food. I'd rather not be broke and have angry rednecks knocking on my door, thank you.
SunnySideUp360 1 year ago
alice waters makes good points and has good responses to anthony bourdain's very reasonable points, as well. let us not let our worship of bourdain and his bad ass ways stop us from seeing that.
ameliabedelia99 1 year ago
Unfortunately, the "organic" industry is considered a luxury in some parts of USA, Educate yourself, make your own meals, do not use can products, IF you can , grow your own produce, Decrease your intake of milk and meat products. Yes, live a little, eat a slice of pizza or a hot dog, but don't do it every week ! organic is TOO expensive for the mid American income, are u kiddin me! Bourdain is right....
GlendaMarx 1 year ago
increase the likelihood that you'll get laid....lol!!!!
mztweety1374 1 year ago
If you want to pay for more expensive organic foods, be my guest.
I'm, however, sticking to GOOD food, like Bourdain said, and if it makes me a little fat, I'll go fucking exercise, big deal!!!!
rrpauldoran 1 year ago
Hope this doesn't sound mean, but...the difference between Bourdain and Waters is, Bourdain is intelligent, Waters thinks she is.
Holla.
nickstoli 1 year ago 13
@nickstoli Couldn't of said it any better lol.
rrpauldoran 1 year ago
@nickstoli Thank you mother fucker!!! All positivity comes from that comment my friend!
leverly12 10 months ago
will this tomato get me laid LOL this dude rocks
Arcticazn 2 years ago 3
Bourdain is a bonafide bad ass. He's mighty twitchy/fidgety in this vid.
supermajo16 2 years ago
Bourdain rules.
robzombay72 2 years ago 60
If people wanna get sick thats their problem, why is she so concerened about it..let people get thousands of dollars in medical bills then we'll see how much money they saved NOT buying organic food...If people wanna shoot themselves in the foot let them, don't stop em they will only hate you for it.
subroto81 2 years ago 2
Let Alice Waters pay for my grass fed beef.
jlq3d3 2 years ago 5
and will you pay for my hospital bills after I get sick from eating the steroid laden beef after the insurance turns me down???
subroto81 2 years ago
First, unless you lied on your policy, I don't see why you imply your insurance would be rescinded. Second, I'd rather not have a system where I pay for your healthcare. Third, there are no studies showing that eating organic beef lowers healthcare costs.
jlq3d3 2 years ago
stupid ass lady, she is sooo stupid and elitist ,
i am broke, i don't care if the cow is grass feed,
i want a cheap taco, because i'm hungry and broke
sexlessparents 2 years ago 32
@sexlessparents to a certain level i definitely agree, im a foul mouthed chain smoking bourdain fanboy turned chef in training. I don't think alice walters is trying to be some sort of authoritarian vegan organic fundie nutcase. I think she and mr bourdain have alot of common ground and i dunno, i find it hard to sum up venomous hatred towards somebody this timid and soft spoken. There needs to be a balance.
imneatneatneat 1 year ago
@sexlessparents, it's elitist to eat right? You don't need a billion dollars to eat right, just learn to cook. Lazy douche.
MrZebraZombie 1 year ago
@MrZebraZombie really? Do you come from a working class background? My mom was a single mom, she could never afford fruits, much less organic fruit. I have my own money now and I can afford to go whole foods and by organic fruit. But my mom just wanted to put food on the table and feed all 5 of us kids.
sexlessparents 1 year ago
@MrZebraZombie You are very elitist to look down on people who eat shitty food. My mom bought hamburger helper. She bought the cheapest ground beef. Where I grew up there were no farmer markets or was a small town. We had Wal-Mart, that was it. My mother was not a " lazy ass", All of us kids never ate anything organic and we all turned out to be healthy, non obese people.
sexlessparents 1 year ago
@sexlessparents
She does strike me as elitist, but eating trash is not the answer to that. You'll pay more in the long run by eating food that not only tastes worse, but is horribly destructive to your body.
JohnWFern 1 year ago
@sexlessparents Why not get it even cheaper and make your own??? If you're so broke
Fubs 1 year ago
@sexlessparents true, absolutely. But let this also be said that it is necessary for the government to make good quality food available readily and cheap to working class people. Especially, in a wealth rich country like america, it shows how from the health industry(no universal health care) to food(shitty mass produced food) everyone is so money hungry and corrupt that all hope seems to be lost as the world in a sense plummets to darkness.
hmcomsat 1 year ago
@hmcomsat lol u fucking communist
sexlessparents 1 year ago
@sexlessparents lol
fardisghomeshi 1 year ago
@sexlessparents Bourdain called her Pol Pot in a Mumu..
hobokensteve 1 year ago
@sexlessparents ye that is stupid.
fardisghomeshi 1 year ago
@sexlessparents As someone who is also broke as hell, I have to make note that most fast food is more expensive than food you pick up at the store and cook yourself. Now if you buy a lot of fresh veggies, that'll raise the cost per calorie significantly.
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
love what she started but geez, at the end it became a soc/comiie feed everybody thing WHAT WAS THAT?
aldkdfdj 2 years ago
Ye, everybody has something to eat. So horrible,isnt it?
Somebody give me a rifle please!
shurednichso 2 years ago
I'm in favour of organic food mainly because it represents traditional practises of growing and preparing food -- practises that have been lost as a result of industrial food production. When looking into heirloom tomatoes, there are a tremendous variety of these tomatoes, and all are uniquely flavourful and delicious. Even pork has been genetically modified far from its fatty, delicious decedents.
bearmare 2 years ago
Organic Food is no better for you than conventional food. It's a great myth that organic is better. There's no science to back up her organic claims that organic is better. It's total BS. The average family cannot afford to eat the way Alice Water's suggests. Duff is an idiot. The Plague didn't come from sewage. It came from fleas that were on rats. When the population of cats increased the plague declined. What an idiot Duff is. He's a fool. Anthony is completely correct. Waters is also stupid.
juscurious 2 years ago 2
@juscurious Exactly what I was thinking, Anthony Bourdain is the true voice of reason here.
SunnySideUp360 2 years ago 3
It's not Alice Water's job to "buy organic bullshit for the po folks." That's your job. Times "r tuff" for everybody. Do what you can. If you can't, well then, better luck when times get better. She is concerned. Concerned enough to start the Edible Schoolyard project. Read up on it before you start to put her down. She did her own small part. She can't do everything. She can't raise your kids for you. She can't save you from your own life. That's your job. Not hers. Get that?
kenyettan1 2 years ago
its just that the ingridience,what is more near u are much more tasteful than 1000km away!and u can get them fresh.
osunlade86 2 years ago
fuck duff & this lady . bourdain talks the truth! damn dude sometimes times r tuff . shit buy the poor folks organic bullshit if u r so concerned. or shut the fuck up
kneez73 2 years ago
Alice Waters is Exhibit A of whats wrong with California..she's so full of it....and herself.
blairzel 2 years ago
Alice Waters is right! Most of you haters know it. Our nation will pay (is already paying) a high health price for that greasy, .99 fried chicken leg that "tastes good." It's not Waters's fault that some people cannot afford the better way. Find a way to get the healthier stuff - and stop taking your personal failures out on this woman! Whenever I am able, I buy organic and vegan. I may not be able to all the time, but I love it when I can. Waters did her part. Now do yours.
kenyettan1 2 years ago
Imposible
drevpile 2 years ago
Imposible
drevpile 2 years ago
Impossible
drevpile 2 years ago
Who is that crazy lady? She is a nut job. It would be possible.
drevpile 2 years ago
tony keeps it real, and truthful. what alice waters is doing is simply removing culture. im not saying its not healthy for people to be eating organic its just not always realistic...coming from southern cali (san diego) there is a pattern to where organic food is available...rich areas...unfortunately there are san diego based stores that are all organic but they only appear in places where people can afford it. which proves to me that they only care about the money and not the heath of people.
origamiXcore 2 years ago
I certainly dont want to know where my sausage are coming from, I only want to think it as beef or chicken sausage. that's it. I dont need any information about any other parts of those animals are used on my sausage.
kasou01 2 years ago
@kasou01 Well, even the organic, free-range chicken sausages are still in pork casings... grrrross!
HunterMann 1 year ago
"they're lining up not because of the healthy food, they're lining up because of the fucking 99 cent." WELL SAID!!! That's if the fact of life and Alice seemed to forget.
cumap1 2 years ago
@cumap1 99 cents is affordable for that moment, but the price they pay for bad health later on outweighs the assumed savings. The problem is that many of the poor people eating poorly can not do the math, or simply do not have access to goos food where they live. Hey Trader Joes & Whole Foods: If you really, truly want people to eat well, why don't you put some of your stores in areas where the good food is most needed? Oh, and W.F. can/should drop their prices...absolutely stupid pricing.
HunterMann 1 year ago
Anthony Bourdain is the star of this conversation, and rightly so. He hasn't changed a bit, you don't have to ask him to know that he had a tough life and he knows what most of us feel day to day. The feeling of not having many choices. The feeling of poor. And yes, there is a feeling to being poor.
Like my fellow peers would say, "He still got that street in him."
SunnySideUp360 2 years ago 3
He went out there and got that himself. He says in his book that he was a spoiled kid form a well off family. He made the choice to screw himself up. That said I am still a big fan of his.
ewok2 2 years ago
@SunnySideUp360 That's true, but 5 minutes after the interview he was chain smoking again, drinking a stiff drink in a limo and making a stop at the Carl's Jr. for another grease bomb to go. Bourdain is now richer than Alice. I'd hate to enter a bathroom after Bourdain s.h.i.t.s.
HunterMann 1 year ago
I must have it good compared a lot of the people commenting here because I buy strictly organic and I consider myself pretty poor (I'm a student and my parents don't pay my bills or tuition). My farmers market is fairly priced and I get fresh, organic, cruelty free eggs and produce for very little. I've become very a firm believer in local organic. I do buy some things from the grocer, but all in all I regulate price by buying from bulk and menu planning. I cook from scratch and garden too.
elleayepea 2 years ago
Hey, I praise for your success, but hopefully you don't think that we all should, must follow or adhere to your foot steps. Keep it to yourself and respect others choices.
cumap1 2 years ago
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MikeHillBronx 2 years ago
Every one hates alice waters.thats fine, but what about what she is saying..every one here criticizes her, but no one criticizes what she is saying.she might be hypocritical too(which i don't think she is..but thats besides the point) ..thats fine...but do people think organic food is better than pesticide laden ..genetically modified food..thats the question..forget about alice water's personality for a while, but did our ancestors really eat organic food?.I know most people hate to hear this.
subroto81 2 years ago
Alice need to realize PEOPLE ARE POOR, PEOPLE ARE BUSY. I cant aford organic anymore! I have to drive 1 hour to the closest organic market to buy organic food. I mean sure they have organic beans and stuff at foodlion but eating organic ISNT practical for everyone. Id LOVE to eat organic and id pay a little extra for it but damn not double the price. Tony I agree with you
Dayberry 2 years ago
most people are in the same boat. i think the real (and realistic) point is to stop eating so much processed food. our nation is being killed by all things processed.
Artfryne 2 years ago
I agree, but I think alice is kinda more into all organic. On the other hand Tony s more supporting what you just said you know.
Dayberry 2 years ago
well that's why we all love Tony !
Artfryne 2 years ago
Damn right
Dayberry 2 years ago
Alice Waters is the definition of a "Limousine Liberal". She thinks everyone can afford expensive food like she can, has plenty of free time to cook slowly like she can, and can grow food year-round like she can.
Irony is that her precious garden would be a desert had it not been for all that water that is piped in from Colorado. That's not exactly "buying local" now, is it?
I prefer to eat fresh too, but Alice thinks everyone is as lucky as she is. She is MOCKING us with her wealth!
mhirtes12 2 years ago
@mhirtes12 Tony rides in more limos than Alice, if you wanna talk lifestyles...
HunterMann 1 year ago
Tony, organic is NOT new!
Organic used to be the way farmers and people used to grow their crop etc
Alice Waters is so right on about paying up front or up back!
StoryeTime 2 years ago
Alice argued about diabetes and fast food. She couldnt argue back about poor people not being able to afford it.
Dayberry 2 years ago
Yes, Alice did. Fast food is being subsidized because corn subsidies make corn products cheaper than the cost to produce them. Her point at the end of the clip is that if we subsidize healthy food instead, it will be cheap and Popeye's--the diabetes causing food--will be more expensive and less attractive. An additional point not covered in the clip is the negative health effects all the pesticides, herbicides and animal waste have on the people living down river.
winecosh 2 years ago 2
great response.
" i am a chef. i am not your dietician or you ethicist. my resposibility is to give you the best tasting tomatoe, not the most cruelty free tomatoe, not the most organic tomatoe......i am in the pleasure business"
good response.
thisrabbitsdynamite 2 years ago
i would go both ways, i love to know where my food came from. but in the other hand, i love good food...
jennywu73 2 years ago
Yep, a good street edge is very attractive in a man as long as he is smart and successful.
SEATTLEGRL1 2 years ago
I love anyone, man or woman, who can use the word FUCK properly. GO TONY!
lucybug72 2 years ago 2
A message to Subroto, if my comment on her hypocrisy offends you, I do apologise. But given that the woman's deathrow meal is a shark fin soup, perhaps she should not be going on about the source of food and all those ethnical issues.
kirastus 2 years ago 4
Anthony Bourdain is hot.
sookiestackhouse2u 2 years ago 4
Alice waters have done wonders for the food community...so much of the general American increase in the knowledge of food and pleasure we receive from it is because of Chez Panisse...\
again...as an alternative, her pursuit of fresh, organic...etc..is a noble one. An Alternative that we choose or choose not to make.
And would anyone really argue that it would be better to not have an option?
acomment 2 years ago
I am so impressed with Alice's decision of Shark's fin soup! I was almost certain it would be perhaps tomatoes...or something of european vein...
and to those who criticize her choice...I'm damn sure Mz waters understands perhaps the "political incorrectness" of shark's fin ...but i find it bold of her to have been so honest...and what a chinese gourmand she is.
acomment 2 years ago
what a retard she is. you don't have to be a sophisticate or erudite to order chinese food for your last meal.
deliriouscouture 2 years ago
Oh my God her deathrow meal is a Shark Fin Soup????? Oh the superficiality of this whole freak show!!!!!! Go Anthony, shoot the woman and toss the carcass!
kirastus 2 years ago 2