First, this is an Ozma song. Secondly I'm sure that's what Rivers wanted. Your respect. I agree Pinkerton was awesome, and yes their other stuff isn't in the same field. But You ever thought that maybe his mood and points of view have changed therefore he cannot create the same tone and as good a song as back then? Weezer is my favorite band. But I don't care. Once again, this an Ozma song.
@Double0hobo you are right about Rivers changing but he was high when he wrote the songs for Pinkerton sooo yeah. But the album Make Beleive was in a couple ways similar to Pinkerton.
Let's be honest, Weezer's first two albums kick the ass on anything Ozma has written. Yes, Ozma may have stayed true to themselves, but they don't compare to the talent of Rivers. The fact that now he can write pop songs that millions of people buy just goes to show that.
@eyelashout rivers's new garbage has been the long result of the reception of pinkerton. It has much more to do with that than Sharp. Although, I do agree that without Sharp it's not the same, and that he did add a lot.
Ozma owns Weezer any day. I am from orange county and have been following this band since high school! Anyone see them with smile at the glass house? AMAZING!
Ozma is an amazing band and they have a sound unique to themselves, the only real reason they're compared to Weezer at all is their lead singer sound somewhat like Rivers. Weezer is a great band, especially live, but they simply dont have the poetic depth in lyrics that Ozma has. Weezer has always just been a pity party for Rivers...we all loved Pinkerton but honestly even the lyrics in it were kind of stupid. It was mainly just a story about how he likes asians in an overtly creepy way...
idk wat datalorez said but here is a quick pinkerton history.
rivers wrote pinkerton when he was really drepressed at harverd. he had just had surgrey on his leg Rivers poured his his heart and soul into pinkerton and when the public bashlashed on him for the lack of mainstream appeal. he fell into a deeper depression in the meantime matt sharp.became to into his sideproject and rivers became jealous and matt was not invited back to recording, marking the beging of weezer's downfall
yeah, but they re-reviewed pinkerton in 2002 and gave it a 5/5, put it in there hall of fame, and they took a readers vote on the best albums of all time, and it was 16th. so not bad eh? lol
dear god this does sound like weezer. weezer is better though.ozma can't touch songs like across the sea by weezer, say it ain't so, why bother. i could go on, but damn i do like this song!
Pinkerton is definitely an album I've kept in my 'top ten', for about 13 years now.
But Weezer evolved in a band that writes only pop songs for commercial success. Ozma, though they never blew up, evolved. But they still wrote songs with their soul.
Well you figure weezer has been doing this for years. Me and my cousin were talking about this. You figure when youve been doing the music scene for a long time you already lived the rock star life style and you just wanna make some money doing it. I mean there isnt anything wrong with that but the music just sucks. Music sucks=more money from commercial success.
Ozma is better than weezer in my opinion, because you can go see them live, and actually go up to them, meet them, talk with them, have them sign your shet. Never been within 100 yards of Rivers "The Homo" Cuomo, but I have been to two of his over priced shows.
Makes me sad that Ozma got rid of the fat drummer. Some might say his fat ass was holding them back from the big time. Haven't seen them since they got back together, but I want to, that's for sure!
Accessibility doesn't make one band better than another. Weezer wrote some beautiful music (I'm talking about Pinkerton). Ozma are good but nothing they've ever written compares to that record.
You say that "Accessibility doesn't make one band better than another." Historically, musicians could only be heard as far as they could sing and play their instruments. Modern technology creates an opportunity for amazing writers, such as Rivers Cuomo, to be heard around the world without him having to do all the grassroots bullshit that small time bands have to go through. That grassroots work takes away from their writing time. Rivers produced pinkerton after he had scored big ,,,
Rivers may be a greater song writer than either of Ozma's guys, and granted he should be: he has a degree from Harvard in English, for chrissake; my point is this: why should I pay $50+ to drive to an overpriced corporate venue to get within 100 yards of a band I really like, when instead I could go to a low key, casual venue and pay $7 to see one of my favorite bands, and share casual conversation with the musicians at the bar...
We can look at what Weezer could do and what they actually do. Ozma actually tours on a bus to play cheap shows, and they write great songs, that give me all the good vibes that Weezer used to create, but are lacking in for the last, oh I don't know, 13 years.
Weezer's time has passed, and River's needs to pass his cape and sceptor to Ozma; they are the future of the weezer-ozma co-fans.
Sure, he's no homo. I heard he would have girls at his room after shows, and tell them they can either take their clothes and get in bed or leave; some would stay, others would leave.
He's not quite as shy as he used to be; he seems more involved in his shows now.
He did have to take more ownership of the band when he gave his co-writer das boot. Too bad Pinkerton kind of flopped. He pours out his heart and soul and Rolling Stone gives it "worst album of the year," for shame
Matt Sharp, i beleive, he ended suing weezer over some royalties, i think. don't quote me on that. but the hell with weezer, they turned into something that isn't what i fell in love with almost 15 years ago
I don't give a fuck what Rolling Stone or Rivers has to say about Pinkerton.
There is more heart and passion in that album than anything else Weezer has ever created.
Commercial success doesn't matter for the true lover of music. Rivers should have stuck to his guns. He might not have ended being rich and famous, but he would still have my respect as a musician.
Hah, I don't care either. I didn't read the article, and have never bought an issue of "Rolling Stone," because I don't give two shits about what they think is 'hot or not'. and it didn't stop me from buying Pinkerton. I agree, he should have stuck to his guns.
Why you gotta be all pretentious and bitchy at me; I'm on your side:
"It's easier for a camel to pierce the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god."
I'm not Christian, but I was quoting Jesus of Nazareth
@FupidStaggot42 I am indeed :) But if you were completely honest. What would you rather have. Some dudes respect or a shitload of cash ^^ Plus, if he wasn't famous, you'd have probably never heard of him, and then the whole respect thing wouldn't work either :) I also like Blue Album and Pinkerton and am not a fan of their sellout shit. But from their perspective it makes perfect sense^^. Ozma fucking rules as well (to stay on topic here :)
Hey asshole don't judge other peoples music and and the only reason people compare Ozma to Weezer and Rivers its because their more famous than Ozma, I know I'm a hypocrite by saying this but only because its true. And just when you say Rivers should have stayed to his gun, that true but he just wanted peoples respect and he did end up being rich and famous. They have there own recording company. Another thing I haven't sceen a new Ozma album in 4 years, Weezer released 2 in 2010.
As much as I loved weezer's first two albums, your respect doesn't pay his bills and Rivers has always been somewhat insecure and cares what people think of him which is why he currently writes souless pop songs featuring Lil Wayne.
Also Spending Time on the Boarderline in a masterpiece.
@datalorez I personally don't think he changed his style of Weezer for money or fame... Rivers doesn't seem the type. It's because his whole musical focus has been fucked because when he poured his heart and soul into Pinkerton everybody said it was shit. Rolling Stone called it 'Embarrassing' a readers poll labeled it 'The Worst Album of 1996' and everybody was saying how much it sucked.
i wish bands can be this good now but 2 bad there not...hey you guys from the 80's r lucky...now i have to listen to crap on the radio..i wish they being back 90's rock...btw im from the 90's
i wish bands can be this good now but 2 bad there not...hey you guys from the 80's r lucky...now i have to listen to crap on the radio..i wish they being back 90's rock...btw im from the 90's
similar to weezer definetly, i remember being 12 years old thinking the song iceland was by weezer, i still donno. I saw ozma saves the day and weezer in 2002, my first general admission show and almost died in the crowd being 14 not realizing what goes on at concerts
anyone who's not a fan of ozma just doesnt know.....
VincentTON420 3 months ago
Nerdiest band ever
bmqdf 7 months ago 2
@bmqdf yeah!
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First, this is an Ozma song. Secondly I'm sure that's what Rivers wanted. Your respect. I agree Pinkerton was awesome, and yes their other stuff isn't in the same field. But You ever thought that maybe his mood and points of view have changed therefore he cannot create the same tone and as good a song as back then? Weezer is my favorite band. But I don't care. Once again, this an Ozma song.
Double0hobo 8 months ago 2
@Double0hobo you are right about Rivers changing but he was high when he wrote the songs for Pinkerton sooo yeah. But the album Make Beleive was in a couple ways similar to Pinkerton.
BioJayCe 7 months ago
<3 Ozma
Xavygravy 9 months ago
yeah!!!
eggniceshow 9 months ago
I love this song:)
bedsidebabys 1 year ago
I saw them live in 2001 along with Weezer and the Get Up Kids, it was great.
digitaljetset 1 year ago
STOP TALKING ABOUT WEEZER... THIS IS OZMA
evan274 1 year ago 23
Haha like no comments are about the actual song or video
DemonicMuffinMan 1 year ago
Let's be honest, Weezer's first two albums kick the ass on anything Ozma has written. Yes, Ozma may have stayed true to themselves, but they don't compare to the talent of Rivers. The fact that now he can write pop songs that millions of people buy just goes to show that.
bbeaup 1 year ago
@bbeaup matt sharp actually was the hidden genius behind most of weezer. you can see that in the crap rivers is writing now.
eyelashout 1 year ago
@eyelashout rivers's new garbage has been the long result of the reception of pinkerton. It has much more to do with that than Sharp. Although, I do agree that without Sharp it's not the same, and that he did add a lot.
bbeaup 1 year ago
Ozma owns Weezer any day. I am from orange county and have been following this band since high school! Anyone see them with smile at the glass house? AMAZING!
eengstrom85 1 year ago
well weezer is my favorite band. but i do love ozma too. they both rock. cant we people just leave it at that.?
MrsBrightside55 1 year ago 3
@MrsBrightside55 dude, i totally just listened to Mr Brightside, lol
almostnuclearwar 1 year ago
@almostnuclearwar whoo! haha yeahh, i love the killers(:
MrsBrightside55 1 year ago
Ozma is an amazing band and they have a sound unique to themselves, the only real reason they're compared to Weezer at all is their lead singer sound somewhat like Rivers. Weezer is a great band, especially live, but they simply dont have the poetic depth in lyrics that Ozma has. Weezer has always just been a pity party for Rivers...we all loved Pinkerton but honestly even the lyrics in it were kind of stupid. It was mainly just a story about how he likes asians in an overtly creepy way...
LuckyLives21 1 year ago
idk wat datalorez said but here is a quick pinkerton history.
rivers wrote pinkerton when he was really drepressed at harverd. he had just had surgrey on his leg Rivers poured his his heart and soul into pinkerton and when the public bashlashed on him for the lack of mainstream appeal. he fell into a deeper depression in the meantime matt sharp.became to into his sideproject and rivers became jealous and matt was not invited back to recording, marking the beging of weezer's downfall
lickapotato 1 year ago
Does anyone know the notes for the synth?
bassnick62 2 years ago
This band makes me want to jizz
ToastIsLife 2 years ago 2
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oh yeah ozma, isnt that the weezer cover band ?
dicktator76 2 years ago
I´m glad I finally found a band I can truly compare to weezer
Schinsky 2 years ago
Too true, my friend.
Xsuaveness35 2 years ago
yeah, but they re-reviewed pinkerton in 2002 and gave it a 5/5, put it in there hall of fame, and they took a readers vote on the best albums of all time, and it was 16th. so not bad eh? lol
horkytork178 2 years ago
dear god this does sound like weezer. weezer is better though.ozma can't touch songs like across the sea by weezer, say it ain't so, why bother. i could go on, but damn i do like this song!
horkytork178 2 years ago
Pinkerton is definitely an album I've kept in my 'top ten', for about 13 years now.
But Weezer evolved in a band that writes only pop songs for commercial success. Ozma, though they never blew up, evolved. But they still wrote songs with their soul.
That is what makes Ozma the better band.
datalorez 2 years ago 5
Well you figure weezer has been doing this for years. Me and my cousin were talking about this. You figure when youve been doing the music scene for a long time you already lived the rock star life style and you just wanna make some money doing it. I mean there isnt anything wrong with that but the music just sucks. Music sucks=more money from commercial success.
xinthisdiaryx 2 years ago
@datalorez This is Ozma. Not Weezer.
blueiniti8er 1 year ago
@datalorez My bad, read your lower post then replied, didn't read the top one. Either case, Ozma is amazing.
blueiniti8er 1 year ago
@datalorez No.
runnersdialzero33 1 year ago
I think I got rivers cuomo to blow me once in a back alley, he was turning tricks for coke.
LazyKingofZombies 2 years ago
Man, this brings me back to 2001.
iamlameduck 2 years ago
Both ozma shows i've been to, we chilled on their tour bus/van. Ryen never chilled though.
morningstoner666 2 years ago
saw them with the rentals, they rock. DO gotta agree with the Weezer thing, i do love them but i think Rivers is kinda pretenious
eulesssucks 2 years ago
Ozma is better than weezer in my opinion, because you can go see them live, and actually go up to them, meet them, talk with them, have them sign your shet. Never been within 100 yards of Rivers "The Homo" Cuomo, but I have been to two of his over priced shows.
Makes me sad that Ozma got rid of the fat drummer. Some might say his fat ass was holding them back from the big time. Haven't seen them since they got back together, but I want to, that's for sure!
SWGeezer 3 years ago
Accessibility doesn't make one band better than another. Weezer wrote some beautiful music (I'm talking about Pinkerton). Ozma are good but nothing they've ever written compares to that record.
dhwthrn 2 years ago
You say that "Accessibility doesn't make one band better than another." Historically, musicians could only be heard as far as they could sing and play their instruments. Modern technology creates an opportunity for amazing writers, such as Rivers Cuomo, to be heard around the world without him having to do all the grassroots bullshit that small time bands have to go through. That grassroots work takes away from their writing time. Rivers produced pinkerton after he had scored big ,,,
SWGeezer 2 years ago
Rivers may be a greater song writer than either of Ozma's guys, and granted he should be: he has a degree from Harvard in English, for chrissake; my point is this: why should I pay $50+ to drive to an overpriced corporate venue to get within 100 yards of a band I really like, when instead I could go to a low key, casual venue and pay $7 to see one of my favorite bands, and share casual conversation with the musicians at the bar...
SWGeezer 2 years ago 2
amen dude
Schinsky 2 years ago
We can look at what Weezer could do and what they actually do. Ozma actually tours on a bus to play cheap shows, and they write great songs, that give me all the good vibes that Weezer used to create, but are lacking in for the last, oh I don't know, 13 years.
Weezer's time has passed, and River's needs to pass his cape and sceptor to Ozma; they are the future of the weezer-ozma co-fans.
Who's With Me!?!
SWGeezer 2 years ago
well rivers is actually an extrememly shy guy, so thats probably why. He's very kind and soft spoken though, definitely not a homo!
horkytork178 2 years ago
Sure, he's no homo. I heard he would have girls at his room after shows, and tell them they can either take their clothes and get in bed or leave; some would stay, others would leave.
He's not quite as shy as he used to be; he seems more involved in his shows now.
He did have to take more ownership of the band when he gave his co-writer das boot. Too bad Pinkerton kind of flopped. He pours out his heart and soul and Rolling Stone gives it "worst album of the year," for shame
SWGeezer 2 years ago
Who was his co-writer?
crappybassist96 2 years ago
Matt Sharp, i beleive, he ended suing weezer over some royalties, i think. don't quote me on that. but the hell with weezer, they turned into something that isn't what i fell in love with almost 15 years ago
SWGeezer 2 years ago
I don't give a fuck what Rolling Stone or Rivers has to say about Pinkerton.
There is more heart and passion in that album than anything else Weezer has ever created.
Commercial success doesn't matter for the true lover of music. Rivers should have stuck to his guns. He might not have ended being rich and famous, but he would still have my respect as a musician.
datalorez 2 years ago 11
Hah, I don't care either. I didn't read the article, and have never bought an issue of "Rolling Stone," because I don't give two shits about what they think is 'hot or not'. and it didn't stop me from buying Pinkerton. I agree, he should have stuck to his guns.
Why you gotta be all pretentious and bitchy at me; I'm on your side:
"It's easier for a camel to pierce the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god."
I'm not Christian, but I was quoting Jesus of Nazareth
SWGeezer 2 years ago 2
I have no clue why some1 gave you a thumbs down i completely agree
MusicLive4Ever 2 years ago
@datalorez Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
runnersdialzero33 1 year ago
@datalorez I'd rather be rich and famous than have your respect :) who wouldn't?
Unitednoobs 1 year ago
@Unitednoobs
You'd be a terrible artist.
FupidStaggot42 9 months ago
@FupidStaggot42 I am indeed :) But if you were completely honest. What would you rather have. Some dudes respect or a shitload of cash ^^ Plus, if he wasn't famous, you'd have probably never heard of him, and then the whole respect thing wouldn't work either :) I also like Blue Album and Pinkerton and am not a fan of their sellout shit. But from their perspective it makes perfect sense^^. Ozma fucking rules as well (to stay on topic here :)
Unitednoobs 9 months ago
@datalorez
Hey asshole don't judge other peoples music and and the only reason people compare Ozma to Weezer and Rivers its because their more famous than Ozma, I know I'm a hypocrite by saying this but only because its true. And just when you say Rivers should have stayed to his gun, that true but he just wanted peoples respect and he did end up being rich and famous. They have there own recording company. Another thing I haven't sceen a new Ozma album in 4 years, Weezer released 2 in 2010.
BioJayCe 7 months ago
@datalorez
As much as I loved weezer's first two albums, your respect doesn't pay his bills and Rivers has always been somewhat insecure and cares what people think of him which is why he currently writes souless pop songs featuring Lil Wayne.
Also Spending Time on the Boarderline in a masterpiece.
8Seven65 6 months ago 3
@datalorez I personally don't think he changed his style of Weezer for money or fame... Rivers doesn't seem the type. It's because his whole musical focus has been fucked because when he poured his heart and soul into Pinkerton everybody said it was shit. Rolling Stone called it 'Embarrassing' a readers poll labeled it 'The Worst Album of 1996' and everybody was saying how much it sucked.
SuperMegabar 2 months ago
Weezer's my favorite band, and I think this is sort of cool.
Walrus487 3 years ago
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weezer is for fags. ozma rules
assfullofaids 3 years ago
Ozma ROCKS!!!!
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago 2
Except for a string of flasshes in the proverbial pan
figgaman 3 years ago
I haven't had a copy of this album in a couple years, this is a real treat listening to these songs again.
datalorez 3 years ago
i wish bands can be this good now but 2 bad there not...hey you guys from the 80's r lucky...now i have to listen to crap on the radio..i wish they being back 90's rock...btw im from the 90's
GilmoreGielsRulez 3 years ago
this song is awesome
fatkid999 3 years ago
i wish bands can be this good now but 2 bad there not...hey you guys from the 80's r lucky...now i have to listen to crap on the radio..i wish they being back 90's rock...btw im from the 90's
marc94clap 3 years ago
"now i have to listen to crap on the radio.."
why?
cleggpump 2 years ago
i like the intro
marc94clap 3 years ago
similar to weezer definetly, i remember being 12 years old thinking the song iceland was by weezer, i still donno. I saw ozma saves the day and weezer in 2002, my first general admission show and almost died in the crowd being 14 not realizing what goes on at concerts
burgess1988 3 years ago
Definitely sounds like Weezer's "I Was Made For You", and probably a couple other songs.
afkDave 3 years ago
lol they it does
marc94clap 3 years ago
This song was released and written way before "I Was Made For You" was.
bsilfan 3 years ago
I know that, but someone just pointed out the similarity and I made the connection, I'm not implying any ripping off of material here.
afkDave 3 years ago
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weezers' definitely better than this fag band
jbadee 3 years ago
You are out of your mind.
bsilfan 3 years ago 2
Yeah they're a lot alike, but hey, who couldn't use another band like Weezer? I love Ozma.. they knew what was up.
iloveericstrip 3 years ago
The little kids in this video are my mom and aunts and uncles harhar.
mrhat1065 4 years ago
shut the fuck up pussy
penthouserocks 3 years ago
haha what?
mrhat1065 3 years ago
talk about an old school band, i havent listend to these guys for 6 years haha. good music.. just like weezer.
joshybumboshy 4 years ago
my uncle got me into this band
metallicabot 4 years ago 2
your uncle is a fag, man
maurin 3 years ago 2
I think this song got me through High School XD
kittenclaws 4 years ago
for some odd reason the start always reminds me a bit of 99 red balloons (verson done by goldfinger)
manjisama 4 years ago
Ryen totally looks like Adam Sessler in this video. :P
KyoshoBallard 4 years ago 2
Oh no! You're right! XD
kittenclaws 4 years ago
LOL!
Finally, someone has said this, I've always thought that but never mentioned it
Ramone1394 2 years ago
The DJ at Curry College played this loud and proud often. Glad to find it again.
captainmelio 4 years ago
damn this song takes me bacc... frik this is sum old ish
AlmondJ0Y 4 years ago
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shitty video lol and i wouldnt say they rock but they make different music hehe
trodor 5 years ago
Ozma ROCKS!!!!
delpinojmz 5 years ago 2